procmail

procmail

[Deedra Waters]

a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
appreciate it, thanks.



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procmail

[John covici]

I am not sure about playing a sound file, but lines beginnning with a
vertical bar in a procmail receipe will execute a program with the
mail as standard input.

-- 
         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: procmail

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Hi Deedra,

Here is the simplest case:

Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
two lines in it as follows:

:0 c
| play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav

Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.

You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
any mail is received.

HTH

Chuck


On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:

> a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> appreciate it, thanks.
>
>
>
>

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 Get my public key from website, http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh

Re: procmail

[Keith Watson]

Yep, here's mine for the list.

:0 c
* ^TOspeakup
|play /usr/local/sounds/mail/jetmail.wav

Have fun.


On 06:38 AM, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> Hi Deedra,
> 
> Here is the simplest case:
> 
> Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
> two lines in it as follows:
> 
> :0 c
> | play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav
> 
> Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
> want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
> change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.
> 
> You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
> messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
> any mail is received.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
> 
> > a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> > for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> > if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> > appreciate it, thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full)
>  Get my public key from website, http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

Re: procmail

[Deedra Waters]

Thanks kieth, I think this will work nicely:)

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Keith
Watson wrote:

> Yep, here's mine for the list.
>
> :0 c
> * ^TOspeakup
> |play /usr/local/sounds/mail/jetmail.wav
>
> Have fun.
>
>
> On 06:38 AM, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > Hi Deedra,
> >
> > Here is the simplest case:
> >
> > Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
> > two lines in it as follows:
> >
> > :0 c
> > | play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav
> >
> > Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
> > want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
> > change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.
> >
> > You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
> > messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
> > any mail is received.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
> >
> > > a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> > > for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> > > if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> > > appreciate it, thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full)
> >  Get my public key from website, http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

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Re: procmail

[Deedra Waters]

hrmm, I've got it partially working, with one slight problem.  I need a
way to make it go to both my inbox as well as play the sound the output
from the procmail log shows that it's skipping the sound in favor of the
folder when I add in the folder factor.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Keith Watson
wrote:

> Yep, here's mine for the list.
>
> :0 c
> * ^TOspeakup
> |play /usr/local/sounds/mail/jetmail.wav
>
> Have fun.
>
>
> On 06:38 AM, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > Hi Deedra,
> >
> > Here is the simplest case:
> >
> > Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
> > two lines in it as follows:
> >
> > :0 c
> > | play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav
> >
> > Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
> > want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
> > change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.
> >
> > You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
> > messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
> > any mail is received.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
> >
> > > a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> > > for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> > > if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> > > appreciate it, thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full)
> >  Get my public key from website, http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

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Re: procmail

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Deedra,

Here is a set of five lines that will first play a specific
sound when speakup meail is detected, and then direct that mail
to a speakup folder. I use pine and the standard pine mail
folder setup.

:0 c
 * ^Reply-To: .*@braille.uwo.ca
 | play /usr/local/etc/speakup.wav
:0 A
 $HOME/mail/speakup

This should take you further.

Chuck


On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:

> hrmm, I've got it partially working, with one slight problem.  I need a
> way to make it go to both my inbox as well as play the sound the output
> from the procmail log shows that it's skipping the sound in favor of the
> folder when I add in the folder factor.
>
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Keith Watson
> wrote:
>
> > Yep, here's mine for the list.
> >
> > :0 c
> > * ^TOspeakup
> > |play /usr/local/sounds/mail/jetmail.wav
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> >
> > On 06:38 AM, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > > Hi Deedra,
> > >
> > > Here is the simplest case:
> > >
> > > Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
> > > two lines in it as follows:
> > >
> > > :0 c
> > > | play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav
> > >
> > > Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
> > > want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
> > > change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.
> > >
> > > You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
> > > messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
> > > any mail is received.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > >
> > > > a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> > > > for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> > > > if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> > > > appreciate it, thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full)
> > >  Get my public key from website, http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: procmail

[Deedra Waters]

I'm looking more for specific messages

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Chuck
Hallenbeck wrote:

> Hi Deedra,
>
> Here is the simplest case:
>
> Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
> two lines in it as follows:
>
> :0 c
> | play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav
>
> Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
> want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
> change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.
>
> You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
> messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
> any mail is received.
>
> HTH
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
>
> > a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> > for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> > if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> > appreciate it, thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: procmail

[Steve Holmes]

Well, you could modify the regexp string to be perhaps a specific user
address in the header or subject key words, etc.  I forget the way to
pull text from the message body for testing in case you need that.  If
you need to check for different values or contexts, you might need
several rules.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 08:43:52AM -0500, Deedra Waters wrote:
> I'm looking more for specific messages
> 
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Chuck
> Hallenbeck wrote:
> 
> > Hi Deedra,
> >
> > Here is the simplest case:
> >
> > Create a file in your home directory called ".procmailrc" and put
> > two lines in it as follows:
> >
> > :0 c
> > | play /usr/local/etc/prayer.wav
> >
> > Modify the second line to point to the particular sound file you
> > want to play, and of course if the "play" command is wrong,
> > change that too -- maybe to "aplay" for the alsa wav file player.
> >
> > You can also make the system play certain sounds when certain
> > messages are detected, but the above will play a sound whenever
> > any mail is received.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
> >
> > > a while back someone mentioned how to get procmail to play a sound file
> > > for certain things. I'm in desperate need to get it to do this right now,
> > > if someone could let me know how to do this again, I'd very very seriously
> > > appreciate it, thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Freenode staff member: dmwaters@freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net
> Debian gnu/linux: http://www.debian.org
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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procmail

[Vortek, Eater of Souls!]

Hello all,
I just got a chance to read my email for about the last 2 and a half
weeks...list seemed pretty active :)
anyway, my question concerns the procmail thread.
Someone mentioned you could have procmail recognize certain messages,
and play a sound for them.
I was wondering if someone could help me write a file that would play a
sound file whenever I get an alert from my StormSiren weather alert
system.
Thanks in advance.

procmail

[Keith Watson]

Does the rcfile follow a top down, kinda fall through pattern. I 
ask because my third recipe works but not the first two.

-- 
Keith Watson
kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace

Re: procmail

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Yes, it does work that way.
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Keith Watson wrote:

> Does the rcfile follow a top down, kinda fall through pattern. I
> ask because my third recipe works but not the first two.
>
>

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So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh

procmail

[Frank Carmickle]

Here's one that I stole from Paul Davis.  Hey a sightling that doesn't
like html mail.  Drop this in your .procmailrc if you so desire.  There
were some other things filtered also so I thought I'd keep them in
there.  Maybe someone can explain to me what the first two lines do.

Have fun


:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| formail -D 8192 $MAILDIR/msgid.cache

:0 B
* \<[hH][tT][mM][lL]\>
* !^Content-Type
/dev/null

:0 B
* (charset=euc-kr|[sS]\.1618)
/dev/null

:0 B
* ^Content-Type: application
/dev/null

:0 B
* you have received this message in error
/dev/null

:0 B
* ^I send you this file in order to have your advice
/dev/null
 


-- 
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phone:     412 761-9568
email:     frankiec@dryrose.com

Re: procmail

[Shaun Oliver]

Hi all,
How does one get procmail to work?
I have a procmailrc file and an rc.playsound file that janina provided a
week or so ago and I modified the rc.playsound to suit my needs.
my question is,
what do I need to do from here?
do I need to add something to my .fetchmailrc file?
thanks in advance.
On Mon, 4
Feb 2002, Frank Carmickle wrote:

> Here's one that I stole from Paul Davis.  Hey a sightling that doesn't
> like html mail.  Drop this in your .procmailrc if you so desire.  There
> were some other things filtered also so I thought I'd keep them in
> there.  Maybe someone can explain to me what the first two lines do.
>
> Have fun
>
>
> :0 Wh: msgid.lock
> | formail -D 8192 $MAILDIR/msgid.cache
>
> :0 B
> * \<[hH][tT][mM][lL]\>
> * !^Content-Type
> /dev/null
>
> :0 B
> * (charset=euc-kr|[sS]\.1618)
> /dev/null
>
> :0 B
> * ^Content-Type: application
> /dev/null
>
> :0 B
> * you have received this message in error
> /dev/null
>
> :0 B
> * ^I send you this file in order to have your advice
> /dev/null
>
>
>
>

-- 
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Marriage is a three ring circus:
engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering.
                -- Roger Price

Email: shauno@goanna.net.au
Icq: 76958435

RE: procmail

[Holmes, Steve]

I know another technique I use is to be in the index view and enter the
number 1 followed by the enter key.  That takes me to the top of the list
and then I can either tab to next unread or I often lookdown the list to see
the first one and enter that number if needsbe.

-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@afb.net]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:57 AM
To: 'speakup@braille.uwo.ca'
Subject: RE: procmail


A ha

Missed the distinction.

And, no, I have not seen a way to do that.

I use a work around, not as good, of course. With tab set to advance to 
the next unread, I jump to the top of the index with Ctrl-W Ctrl-y and go 
to the first unread with TAB.
 On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Holmes, Steve wrote:

> That behavior works exactly as I like for my regular inbox but it does not
> seem to apply for other folders I switch to manually.  Is there some way
to
> get this rule to apply to all mail folders/boxes?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@afb.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:37 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: procmail
> 
> 
> Tommy:
> 
> Goto to your Pine configuration menu and check your 
> 'incoming-startup-rule' definition. The default behavior is to take you to

> the first unseen message, not the last one in the folder.
> 
> PS: It's a tedious list of options, but I've never regreted spending an 
> hour or two tweaking my pine configuration. I am well convinced that Pine 
> should behave just as you want it, because most of the features I've ever 
> wanted have turned out to be in there already. So, spend some time in 
> there, and use the question mark to get context sensitive help when you 
> don't understand something. It's really quite good.
> 
> PSS: I'm willing to share my pinerc if anyone wants.  On Sun, 23 Sep 2001,

> Tommy Moore wrote:
> 
> > And to add soemthing to Kerry's post if your using pine change the
> > $HOME/Mail to $HOME/mail so that pine will find your messages.
> > Now one thing I haven't figured out t how to do yet is how to get pine
to
> > display the messages that you haven't read yet.
> > When you load a folder that has new messages it goes to the end.
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

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http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

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http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: procmail

[Holmes, Steve]

That behavior works exactly as I like for my regular inbox but it does not
seem to apply for other folders I switch to manually.  Is there some way to
get this rule to apply to all mail folders/boxes?

-----Original Message-----
From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@afb.net]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:37 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: procmail


Tommy:

Goto to your Pine configuration menu and check your 
'incoming-startup-rule' definition. The default behavior is to take you to 
the first unseen message, not the last one in the folder.

PS: It's a tedious list of options, but I've never regreted spending an 
hour or two tweaking my pine configuration. I am well convinced that Pine 
should behave just as you want it, because most of the features I've ever 
wanted have turned out to be in there already. So, spend some time in 
there, and use the question mark to get context sensitive help when you 
don't understand something. It's really quite good.

PSS: I'm willing to share my pinerc if anyone wants.  On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, 
Tommy Moore wrote:

> And to add soemthing to Kerry's post if your using pine change the
> $HOME/Mail to $HOME/mail so that pine will find your messages.
> Now one thing I haven't figured out t how to do yet is how to get pine to
> display the messages that you haven't read yet.
> When you load a folder that has new messages it goes to the end.
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: procmail

[Janina Sajka]

A ha

Missed the distinction.

And, no, I have not seen a way to do that.

I use a work around, not as good, of course. With tab set to advance to 
the next unread, I jump to the top of the index with Ctrl-W Ctrl-y and go 
to the first unread with TAB.
 On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Holmes, Steve wrote:

> That behavior works exactly as I like for my regular inbox but it does not
> seem to apply for other folders I switch to manually.  Is there some way to
> get this rule to apply to all mail folders/boxes?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@afb.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:37 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: procmail
> 
> 
> Tommy:
> 
> Goto to your Pine configuration menu and check your 
> 'incoming-startup-rule' definition. The default behavior is to take you to 
> the first unseen message, not the last one in the folder.
> 
> PS: It's a tedious list of options, but I've never regreted spending an 
> hour or two tweaking my pine configuration. I am well convinced that Pine 
> should behave just as you want it, because most of the features I've ever 
> wanted have turned out to be in there already. So, spend some time in 
> there, and use the question mark to get context sensitive help when you 
> don't understand something. It's really quite good.
> 
> PSS: I'm willing to share my pinerc if anyone wants.  On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, 
> Tommy Moore wrote:
> 
> > And to add soemthing to Kerry's post if your using pine change the
> > $HOME/Mail to $HOME/mail so that pine will find your messages.
> > Now one thing I haven't figured out t how to do yet is how to get pine to
> > display the messages that you haven't read yet.
> > When you load a folder that has new messages it goes to the end.
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp

procmail

[Deedra Waters]

I'm using procmail to sort my mail, but the problem I've suddenly got is
that if the mail doesn't come from speakup list, or any other catagory
that I've got my mail sorted into then I  don't get the message, if anyone
has suggestions I'd appreciate it.

Re: procmail

[Tommy Moore]

Hi Deedra.
Can you send the .procmailrc file along to the list so we can see what's
going on with the rules that you've defined?

Tommy

Re: procmail

[Deedra Waters]

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hear's the file, was going to send it along, but had forgotten to attackh
it.

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:

> Hi Deedra.
> Can you send the .procmailrc file along to the list so we can see what's
> going on with the rules that you've defined?
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
LOGFILE=$HOME/mail/procmail-log
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail

:0
* ^Sender:\ speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
$MAILDIR/speakup-list


:0
* ^X-X-Sender:  <laamaah@h193n3fls20o974.telia.com>
$MAILDIR/johan

Re: procmail

[Deedra Waters]

I'd gotten help setting this up, and everything works fine, accept that I
can't see my inbox messages. the speakup messages I see, along with any
others I get that are set in that file, just don't see any  messages that
go to my inbox. so I'm sorta guessing that it has something to do with my
inbox though I may be wrong

On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:

> hear's the file, was going to send it along, but had forgotten to attackh
> it.
> 
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:
> 
> > Hi Deedra.
> > Can you send the .procmailrc file along to the list so we can see what's
> > going on with the rules that you've defined?
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 

Re: procmail

[Tommy Moore]

Ok, if its just the mbox messages than delete that line in the file that
refers to your mbox and you should be set.

Tommy

Re: procmail

[Tommy Moore]

One thing you should probably do is delete the lines that has the defautl
MAILDIR.
Something about $HOME/mail/imbox
Then for example change the rule for the speakup list to look like this:
:0:
* ^Reply To: speakup
$HOME/mail/speakup-list

And for other mail what I do is do:
:0 c:
* ^From: someone@somewhere.com
$HOME/mail/name

The c on the first line tells the system to keep that person's message in
the mbox and to also copy it to their mail box for archiving.
You can also do this with the speakup list as well.

Tommy

Re: procmail

[Kerry Hoath]

snip snip snip
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 10:13:22PM -0400, Tommy Moore wrote:
> And for other mail what I do is do:
> :0 c:
> * ^From: someone@somewhere.com
> $HOME/mail/name
> The c on the first line tells the system to keep that person's message in
> the mbox and to also copy it to their mail box for archiving.
No it does not; it tells procmail that this recipe
is not to be considered the final delivering recipe. If the c were missing 
procmail would consider the message delivered and not let it fall through to the spool.
I make this destinction because you can use a :0c recipe
to play a sound; run a script; in fact almost anything you want.
Sorry to be picky but thought I should clarify this.
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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ICQ UIN: 8226547

Re: procmail

[Kerry Hoath]

Ok I see problems here allready.
I assume you are delivering into folders and that they are in unix mbox format.
You must must must must use locking.
Change the :0 to :0: in your recipes.
The only time you can afford to not use locking is if you are delivering to 
another address or delivering into a MailDir.
Here is an example of a forwarding recipe:
:0c
* ^FROM speakup
! otherperson@domain.com

Here is a breakdown:
:0 (start a recipe)
* start a condition.
^From match from at the beginning of a line.
! forward the mail to the address following.

All your messages are ending up in $MAIL/inbox and if your mail reader is not
set to read messages in the inbox file you'll never see them.
Remove the default line and messages will stay in /var/spool/mail/username which
is probably what you want.
Do read the quick start I gave to the list; it taught me 90%
of what I know about procmail. If you want more info on mailbox locking
why it is needed; why you need the collon etc let me know.

Regards, Kerry.
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 06:00:29PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote:
> hear's the file, was going to send it along, but had forgotten to attackh
> it.
> 
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:
> 
> > Hi Deedra.
> > Can you send the .procmailrc file along to the list so we can see what's
> > going on with the rules that you've defined?
> > 
> > Tommy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 

> PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
> MAILDIR=$HOME/mail
> LOGFILE=$HOME/mail/procmail-log
> DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox
> LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
> 
> :0
> * ^Sender:\ speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> $MAILDIR/speakup-list
> 
> 
> :0
> * ^X-X-Sender:  <laamaah@h193n3fls20o974.telia.com>
> $MAILDIR/johan


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Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or  kerry@gotss.spice.net.au
ICQ UIN: 8226547

Re: procmail

[Kerry Hoath]

Check the log file.
It should tell you where all the mail is going.
An excellent procmail quickstart is here:
http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/

I have a procmail setup working here; so if you have questions you can mail
me off list.
Does your mail live in /var/spool/mail by default when delivered? I leave it 
there unless it needs to go into a certain folder.
Make sure PMDIR and MAILDIR are set in .procmailrc mine are:
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
and _check_ that these directories exist with the right permitions.
Also, set
VERBOSE=on
while debugging and watch that log file after sending yourself mail.
Check the case on the above, PMDIR MAILDIR and VERBOSE
are all uppercase.

Regards, Kerry.
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 02:45:58PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote:
> I'm using procmail to sort my mail, but the problem I've suddenly got is
> that if the mail doesn't come from speakup list, or any other catagory
> that I've got my mail sorted into then I  don't get the message, if anyone
> has suggestions I'd appreciate it.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or  kerry@gotss.spice.net.au
ICQ UIN: 8226547

Re: procmail

[Tommy Moore]

And to add soemthing to Kerry's post if your using pine change the
$HOME/Mail to $HOME/mail so that pine will find your messages.
Now one thing I haven't figured out t how to do yet is how to get pine to
display the messages that you haven't read yet.
When you load a folder that has new messages it goes to the end.

Tommy

Re: procmail

[Janina Sajka]

Tommy:

Goto to your Pine configuration menu and check your 
'incoming-startup-rule' definition. The default behavior is to take you to 
the first unseen message, not the last one in the folder.

PS: It's a tedious list of options, but I've never regreted spending an 
hour or two tweaking my pine configuration. I am well convinced that Pine 
should behave just as you want it, because most of the features I've ever 
wanted have turned out to be in there already. So, spend some time in 
there, and use the question mark to get context sensitive help when you 
don't understand something. It's really quite good.

PSS: I'm willing to share my pinerc if anyone wants.  On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, 
Tommy Moore wrote:

> And to add soemthing to Kerry's post if your using pine change the
> $HOME/Mail to $HOME/mail so that pine will find your messages.
> Now one thing I haven't figured out t how to do yet is how to get pine to
> display the messages that you haven't read yet.
> When you load a folder that has new messages it goes to the end.
> 
> Tommy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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Re: procmail

[Janina Sajka]

Shouldn't be like that--but don't know what the offending syntax might be 
off the top of my head. The default should be your inbox if none of the 
other categories are matched.
 On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:

> I'm using procmail to sort my mail, but the problem I've suddenly got is
> that if the mail doesn't come from speakup list, or any other catagory
> that I've got my mail sorted into then I  don't get the message, if anyone
> has suggestions I'd appreciate it.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp

Re: procmail

[Deedra Waters]

Thank you all for your help, I figured out how to keep the default portion
in the file by pointing pine to the inbox so now it works fine. Will go
back, and fix the :0 part of it like someone suggested.