* Laptops for less with serial ports
@ Janina Sajka
` Joe Clever
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Patrick:
You can still get DB9 serial ports on laptop computers. You can't
usually get them on the ultra-thin models, though. I am currently
looking myself, and a serial port is a must. I will most likely stick
with IBM and get a Thinkpad T30 this time around at around $2.6K. It has
a serial port
If I were you, I'd seriously consider an IBM reconditioned Thinkpad.
There is a 3 month waranty on them--certainly long enough to find out if
any part is bad. For example, you can get a T22, with serial port,
modem, ethernet, two pcmcia, etc. for under $1K. See:
http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=1&categoryId=2563444&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73
Careful. This url will almost certainly wrap.
PS: For the last two years I've bee4n running around with a Thinkpad t20
that we paid $3,500 for. Now they're selling reconditioned for about
$700. Mine is still good. It's not broken at all. That's not the reason
I'm upgrading. And, I've been all over the planet with it.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports Laptops for less with serial ports Janina Sajka @ ` Joe Clever ` Matt ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Joe Clever @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Patrick: I have to agree with Janina that the refurbished IBM's can be a good deal. I picked up an IBM refurb Thinkpad 600E for around $450 a year ago on ubid.com. One of the good things is you aren't putting a 3000 dollar laptop at risk when you have to travel. If you are forced to purchase locally, as I think you indicated, and you are in the USA, you can check out deals at http://www.dealnews.com and http://www.salescircular.com. Dealnews puts out a free daily newsletter that you can subscribe to or you can just visit their site. Salescircular also has a free newsletter but I am unsure of it's frequency. I can't tell you how speech accessible these sites are, as I use screen magnification. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@cantata.rednote.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Laptops for less with serial ports > > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Cc: > Bcc: > Subject: Re: (no subject) > Reply-To: > In-Reply-To: <014401c297ba$aa514800$0201a8c0@6S4X011> > X-Operating-System: Linux cantata 2.4.16 > Patrick: > > You can still get DB9 serial ports on laptop computers. You can't > usually get them on the ultra-thin models, though. I am currently > looking myself, and a serial port is a must. I will most likely stick > with IBM and get a Thinkpad T30 this time around at around $2.6K. It has > a serial port > > If I were you, I'd seriously consider an IBM reconditioned Thinkpad. > There is a 3 month waranty on them--certainly long enough to find out if > any part is bad. For example, you can get a T22, with serial port, > modem, ethernet, two pcmcia, etc. for under $1K. See: > > http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=- 840&storeId=1&categoryId=2563444&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73 > > Careful. This url will almost certainly wrap. > PS: For the last two years I've bee4n running around with a Thinkpad t20 > that we paid $3,500 for. Now they're selling reconditioned for about > $700. Mine is still good. It's not broken at all. That's not the reason > I'm upgrading. And, I've been all over the planet with it. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports Laptops for less with serial ports Janina Sajka ` Joe Clever @ ` Matt ` dashielljt ` Buddy Brannan ` ccrawford 3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Matt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The other good thing about the IBM Thinkpad series is that their hardware is well supported by Linux which is an important consideration. Many laptops these days come with somewhat proprietary hardware that the manufacturers have not released Linux drivers for etc. At 04:17 PM 11/29/2002, you wrote: > > >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca >Cc: >Bcc: >Subject: Re: (no subject) >Reply-To: >In-Reply-To: <014401c297ba$aa514800$0201a8c0@6S4X011> >X-Operating-System: Linux cantata 2.4.16 >Patrick: > >You can still get DB9 serial ports on laptop computers. You can't >usually get them on the ultra-thin models, though. I am currently >looking myself, and a serial port is a must. I will most likely stick >with IBM and get a Thinkpad T30 this time around at around $2.6K. It has >a serial port > >If I were you, I'd seriously consider an IBM reconditioned Thinkpad. >There is a 3 month waranty on them--certainly long enough to find out if >any part is bad. For example, you can get a T22, with serial port, >modem, ethernet, two pcmcia, etc. for under $1K. See: > >http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=1&categoryId=2563444&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73 > >Careful. This url will almost certainly wrap. >PS: For the last two years I've bee4n running around with a Thinkpad t20 >that we paid $3,500 for. Now they're selling reconditioned for about >$700. Mine is still good. It's not broken at all. That's not the reason >I'm upgrading. And, I've been all over the planet with it. > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports ` Matt @ ` dashielljt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: dashielljt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I.B.M. is supporting Linux now too so any operating system customization and installation questions should be able to get answered easier with them rather than their competitors. Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports Laptops for less with serial ports Janina Sajka ` Joe Clever ` Matt @ ` Buddy Brannan ` Cheryl Homiak ` ccrawford 3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup For IBM machines, don't forget about http://www.ebaystores.com/ibm Full warranties on new (but generally previous model) machines at pretty damn good prices. I got an A21 last year for $1400 give or take, including shipping and tax. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV/3 | "And if the ground yawned, Phone: (814) 455-7333 | I'd step to the side and say, Email: davros@ycardz.com | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" http://www.ycardz.com/ | --Eddie From Ohio ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports ` Buddy Brannan @ ` Cheryl Homiak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Cheryl Homiak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yep, ebay is where I got my thinkpad t23 which I really like. It has one serial port but also has the com connection for your modem (as well as ethernet) so you don't have to add anything on to do both a ppp connection and either speech or braille. Cheryl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports Laptops for less with serial ports Janina Sajka ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Buddy Brannan @ ` ccrawford ` Janina Sajka 3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: ccrawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Janina, I am impressed with your talking about the think Pad, I have always loved the keyboards on those laptops. If someone ploans on dual booting however, they should be aware at least on my think pad, the damn thing loses its keyboard mapping in DOS and I havew not been able to do anything but reboot to get it back. I have even gone so far as to create a boot disk so Windows is never seen, but still the same. Either a pathing problem to whatever controls the keyboard or a hardware thing. don't know. Having said that, I don't know if there would be aproblem with Linux but if I convert the thing to Linux, then it will be all linux. -- charlie. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Laptops for less with serial ports ` ccrawford @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Charlie: Yes, outstanding keypads on Thinkpad. At least, they're highly popular and award winning. The only thing I've noticed, and it's only been occassional for me, is a kind of freeze where I can't press F10, for example, because what I get when I do is actually Ctrl-F10. And, in WordPerfect for DOS, of course, that means you can't exit with F7! <grin> Ergo, the reboot. I have not seen this with my T20, insofar as I recall, but I also have not run WordPerfect for DOS since I can recall. So, I'm not sure I've seen this in at least two years--about as long as I've had the T20. Could be IBM, could be the WP, however, as well. Charles Crawford writes: > From: ccrawford@acb.org > > Janina, > > I am impressed with your talking about the think Pad, I have > always loved the keyboards on those laptops. If someone ploans on dual > booting however, they should be aware at least on my think pad, the damn > thing loses its keyboard mapping in DOS and I havew not been able to do > anything but reboot to get it back. I have even gone so far as to create > a boot disk so Windows is never seen, but still the same. Either a pathing > problem to whatever controls the keyboard or a hardware thing. don't > know. > > Having said that, I don't know if there would be aproblem with > Linux but if I convert the thing to Linux, then it will be all linux. > > -- charlie. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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