Distro Question

Distro Question

[Glenn Ervin]

I still have not decided which distro to use.
I am not afraid of any type being difficult.
I am simply wanting the most capable distro for using on a current system.
256 MB ram, P5 1.7 GB processor.
I plan on duel-booting with Linux having its own HD.
I have read some documentation on the differences, but I am still left
uncertain.
It seems that Debian, RedHat, and Slackware are the distros of choice.
Can anyone give me any ideas?
I plan on doing much audio (MP3) stuff, and much e-mail, & internet
browsing.
I hope to be able to set up lilo to let me select between windows or Linux,
or I will set up a floppy for this option.
Thanks for any input.



"Live long and prosper",
O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
N0YJV
Northeast Nebraska
e-mail:
glennervin@cableone.net
The above address can also be found on MSM.
or my work e-mail:
gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us

Re: Distro Question

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Hi,

There are folks on this list happily using all three distros and
doing everything you named and more with them. If there were a
clear favorite I suppose we would all have chosen it by now, but
each of the three will do everything you want it to.

Chuck

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> I still have not decided which distro to use.
> I am not afraid of any type being difficult.
> I am simply wanting the most capable distro for using on a current system.
> 256 MB ram, P5 1.7 GB processor.
> I plan on duel-booting with Linux having its own HD.
> I have read some documentation on the differences, but I am still left
> uncertain.
> It seems that Debian, RedHat, and Slackware are the distros of choice.
> Can anyone give me any ideas?
> I plan on doing much audio (MP3) stuff, and much e-mail, & internet
> browsing.
> I hope to be able to set up lilo to let me select between windows or Linux,
> or I will set up a floppy for this option.
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
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Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Patricia Logan]

     Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I 
transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this 
list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in 
-dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed, 
having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How 
difficult will it be to dealwith this?

     Pat Logan

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Igor Gueths]

Yes they have to be multiples of 16 I believe. Have you tried the -pad
option? This will pad the mp3s with I believe binary data up to the next
multiplier.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Patricia Logan wrote:

>      Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I
> transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this
> list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in
> -dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed,
> having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How
> difficult will it be to dealwith this?
>
>      Pat Logan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Kerry Hoath]

Just add the -pad option to the cdrecord command-line.
The files must be a multiple of 2352 bytes since this is
the smallest playable u nit on a cd (1 frame==1/75 seconds).
If you have cdrdao installed; you can use the mp32dao script to do all this padding
conversion and burning in 1 fell swoop.

Regards, Kerry.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 06:43:16PM -0500, Patricia Logan wrote:
>      Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I 
> transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this 
> list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in 
> -dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed, 
> having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How 
> difficult will it be to dealwith this?
> 
>      Pat Logan
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

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Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Ann Parsons]

Hi Pat,

OK, you made wav files.  Why do you want wavs as opposed to MP3 or
OGG?  If you want wav for music in order to make a music CD, you have
to record them  as a music CD as opposed to a data CD.  If you want to
change the files to OGG you have to encode them before placing them on
a CD.

Ann P.

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Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[ccrawford]

	I don't really know the answer to your question but it brings up a 
question of my own.  Given the dynamics of mp3 recording, how does 
converting them to a wave file do any good?  Do they sound any better?

-- charlie.


On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Patricia Logan wrote:

>      Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I 
> transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this 
> list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in 
> -dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed, 
> having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How 
> difficult will it be to dealwith this?
> 
>      Pat Logan
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[ccrawford]

Ann and others,

	I am still struggling to determine where to get and fully install 
the ogg programs and then to figure out how to stream to ACB Radio from 
the Linux machine so I can do an interactive show.  Has nayone had that 
level of experience with anything?  I would appreciate knowing.  I think I 
may have time today to continue the search for the ogg dependencies I am 
still looking to find, but I don't have a clue on streaming.

-- charlie.

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Janina Sajka]

No, they can't possibly sound better converted from mp3 to wav. It's an
old story, you can't make silk from a sow's ear.

The mp3 format is a compressed format. Aspects of the original recording
have been thrown away in the compression process. That information is
gone forever. You can't magically get the richer details available in an
uncompressed format like wav by converting from mp3 to wav.

This is also an example of how dissengenuous the recording industry is
over peer to peer file sharing. The copies being shared, for the most
part, are no where near the quality of the recordings shrink wrapped in
the music store. It's not as they say, that every digital copy is an
exact duplicate of the original. That's just balderdash. And there are
many many more ways to make an inexact digital copy, just as there have
long been ways to make an extremely accurate analog copy of analog
media.

But, I diagress yet again.


Charles Crawford writes:
> From: ccrawford@acb.org
> 
> 	I don't really know the answer to your question but it brings up a 
> question of my own.  Given the dynamics of mp3 recording, how does 
> converting them to a wave file do any good?  Do they sound any better?
> 
> -- charlie.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Patricia Logan wrote:
> 
> >      Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I 
> > transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this 
> > list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in 
> > -dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed, 
> > having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How 
> > difficult will it be to dealwith this?
> > 
> >      Pat Logan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Janina Sajka]

Charlie:

Where have you looked?

If your're running Red Hat 8.0, you've already got all kinds of ogg
tools, including oggenc.

As for serving streams, have you looked on Google, perhaps with search
terms like:

ogg server Linux

Try that.


Charles Crawford writes:
> 
> Ann and others,
> 
> 	I am still struggling to determine where to get and fully install 
> the ogg programs and then to figure out how to stream to ACB Radio from 
> the Linux machine so I can do an interactive show.  Has nayone had that 
> level of experience with anything?  I would appreciate knowing.  I think I 
> may have time today to continue the search for the ogg dependencies I am 
> still looking to find, but I don't have a clue on streaming.
> 
> -- charlie.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Igor Gueths]

Ok Charlie. What do you have downloaded? You will need the vorbistools,
libogg, and libvorbis. Do you have these built? For streaming you will
need icecast. Information on encoders and other stuff pertaining to
icecast is available at www.icecast.org.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 ccrawford@acb.org wrote:

> Ann and others,
>
> 	I am still struggling to determine where to get and fully install
> the ogg programs and then to figure out how to stream to ACB Radio from
> the Linux machine so I can do an interactive show.  Has nayone had that
> level of experience with anything?  I would appreciate knowing.  I think I
> may have time today to continue the search for the ogg dependencies I am
> still looking to find, but I don't have a clue on streaming.
>
> -- charlie.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Igor Gueths]

I might add that a way to make better and more accurate digital coppies of
music for example, is to use vorbis.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> No, they can't possibly sound better converted from mp3 to wav. It's an
> old story, you can't make silk from a sow's ear.
>
> The mp3 format is a compressed format. Aspects of the original recording
> have been thrown away in the compression process. That information is
> gone forever. You can't magically get the richer details available in an
> uncompressed format like wav by converting from mp3 to wav.
>
> This is also an example of how dissengenuous the recording industry is
> over peer to peer file sharing. The copies being shared, for the most
> part, are no where near the quality of the recordings shrink wrapped in
> the music store. It's not as they say, that every digital copy is an
> exact duplicate of the original. That's just balderdash. And there are
> many many more ways to make an inexact digital copy, just as there have
> long been ways to make an extremely accurate analog copy of analog
> media.
>
> But, I diagress yet again.
>
>
> Charles Crawford writes:
> > From: ccrawford@acb.org
> >
> > 	I don't really know the answer to your question but it brings up a
> > question of my own.  Given the dynamics of mp3 recording, how does
> > converting them to a wave file do any good?  Do they sound any better?
> >
> > -- charlie.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Patricia Logan wrote:
> >
> > >      Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I
> > > transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this
> > > list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in
> > > -dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed,
> > > having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How
> > > difficult will it be to dealwith this?
> > >
> > >      Pat Logan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[ccrawford]

Janina,

	Actually, you were making the point that I was making i
n my message.

-- Charlie.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> No, they can't possibly sound better converted from mp3 to wav. It's an
> old story, you can't make silk from a sow's ear.
> 
> The mp3 format is a compressed format. Aspects of the original recording
> have been thrown away in the compression process. That information is
> gone forever. You can't magically get the richer details available in an
> uncompressed format like wav by converting from mp3 to wav.
> 
> This is also an example of how dissengenuous the recording industry is
> over peer to peer file sharing. The copies being shared, for the most
> part, are no where near the quality of the recordings shrink wrapped in
> the music store. It's not as they say, that every digital copy is an
> exact duplicate of the original. That's just balderdash. And there are
> many many more ways to make an inexact digital copy, just as there have
> long been ways to make an extremely accurate analog copy of analog
> media.
> 
> But, I diagress yet again.
> 
> 
> Charles Crawford writes:
> > From: ccrawford@acb.org
> > 
> > 	I don't really know the answer to your question but it brings up a 
> > question of my own.  Given the dynamics of mp3 recording, how does 
> > converting them to a wave file do any good?  Do they sound any better?
> > 
> > -- charlie.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Patricia Logan wrote:
> > 
> > >      Hi!  I have gotten a lot of mp3s from a friend.  I 
> > > transformed them to wav files using mpg123 as described on this 
> > > list.  When I tried to copy these onto a disc using cdrecord in 
> > > -dao mode I got the message that the tracks had to be passed, 
> > > having to be lumtiples of some number which I can't remember. How 
> > > difficult will it be to dealwith this?
> > > 
> > >      Pat Logan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[ccrawford]

Thanks Janina,

	I will search for an ogg streaming utility.  Imagine the money 
ACB-Radio could save in not having to provide as much broadband when ogg 
streams sound as good if not better at 56K!  Hmmm.  Maybe we will fritter 
away the savings fighting for described entertainment on television?  
Smile.

-- charlie.

Re: Distro Question

[Ralph W. Reid]

Glenn Ervin staggered into view and mumbled:
>
>I still have not decided which distro to use.
>I am not afraid of any type being difficult.
>I am simply wanting the most capable distro for using on a current system.
>256 MB ram, P5 1.7 GB processor.
>I plan on duel-booting with Linux having its own HD.
>I have read some documentation on the differences, but I am still left
>uncertain.
>It seems that Debian, RedHat, and Slackware are the distros of choice.
>Can anyone give me any ideas?
>I plan on doing much audio (MP3) stuff, and much e-mail, & internet
>browsing.
>I hope to be able to set up lilo to let me select between windows or Linux,
>or I will set up a floppy for this option.
>Thanks for any input.

I settled on Slackware 8.0 because the files were easy to download
onto my DOS system at the time.  Slackware 8.1 would not be so easy
to download onto an older DOS system because the file names have
changed to values DOS would not know how to handle.  I considered Red Hat Linux first because I wanted to be able to use Word Perfect on Linux, but
it seems that I made the right choice with Slackware since Word
Perfect for Linux is all graphical--absolutely useless for me.  Redd
Hat seems to have a nice embedded applications programming package (I
do not know whether it is accessible for blind people or not), so if
I ever start building robots to be run from a central A. I. here at
home, I might consider switching over to Red Hat.  I am not building
robots though, so I do not expect to change from Slackware any time
soon.  Any of the distros should handle the applications you
mentioned, so you might want to look at how the installation and
upgrade procedures work on each of them to help decide which one to
use.

I hope this helps, and have a _great_ day!


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Re: Distro Question

[dashielljt]

Well if Slackware is chosen the only boot and root disks for it are
slackware 8.0 with kernel version 2.2.19smp.  There's a kernel version
2.4.55 available in slackware 8.1 and I think another version of the
kernel for slackware.current which will become slackware 9.0.  In the
slackware installation instructions provided for speakup, if there is a
way to make other kernel choices for installation and have them come up
talking short of rebuilding a kernel they're undocumented.  Because 2.2.19
was chosen as the kernel version on which to build and I had used it, I
can't use my parallel tape backup unit with linux.  That should work with
kernel 2.4.x and above though.  What slackware provides for ftape are only
the stable driver which is ftape 3.x.  The thing is, that only works for
internal tape drives and you have to compile ftape 4.x unstable driver to
even get those parallel tape drives to work.  That's why the work on the
sysback script.  Btw, it's promising but so far not finished.  Testing
shows what I wrote as it'swritten now does work and it uses zip disks for
backup.

Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net>

Re: Distro Question

[Toby Fisher]

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, dashielljt wrote:

> Well if Slackware is chosen the only boot and root disks for it are
> slackware 8.0 with kernel version 2.2.19smp.  There's a kernel version
> 2.4.55 available in slackware 8.1 and I think another version of the
> kernel for slackware.current which will become slackware 9.0.  In the
> slackware installation instructions provided for speakup, if there is a
> way to make other kernel choices for installation and have them come up
> talking short of rebuilding a kernel they're undocumented.  Because 2.2.19
> was chosen as the kernel version on which to build and I had used it, I
> can't use my parallel tape backup unit with linux.  That should work with
> kernel 2.4.x and above though.  What slackware provides for ftape are only
> the stable driver which is ftape 3.x.  The thing is, that only works for
> internal tape drives and you have to compile ftape 4.x unstable driver to
> even get those parallel tape drives to work.  That's why the work on the
> sysback script.  Btw, it's promising but so far not finished.  Testing
> shows what I wrote as it'swritten now does work and it uses zip disks for
> backup.

Um, Slackware 8.0 comes with kernel 2.2.19, and also some kernels for
2.4.5, as well as both sets of sources.

Slackware 8.1, that I upgraded to today, has sources for 2.4.18.

Btw, there are instructions for upgrading from slackware 8.0 to 8.1, but
they are at best unstable, seriously not for newbies as there are just so
many things that can go wrong, and did for me.  Make sure, at all costs,
that you have a bootdisk around, I used one from sslackware 8.0 because if
it all went west I could use the root disk, and re-install from the cdrom.

Mind you, I did sort of bring things on myself, cos I didn't use a
Slackware cd, just mounted the iso image via loopback, very interesting,
but it did work.

Cheers.

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Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Maurice A. Mines]

btw what about mp3pro file format? is this better.

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Janina Sajka]

Well, Maurice, I'm not sure what MP3 Profile is or why you think it might be better. I'm not even sure what it might be better than.

However, given the licensing issues with MP3, I should think that ogg in any form would be better than anything mp3.


Maurice A. Mines writes:
> From: "Maurice A. Mines" <mmines@mines-family.net>
> 
> btw what about mp3pro file format? is this better.
> 
> 
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Maurice A. Mines]

hi atlist mp3pro can be played on most all mp3players  and I dont know if 
orfus files can be played on a mp3 player or due need a speashel player to 
due that. happey thinksgiving to all.

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Janina Sajka]

Why don't you show us the command you're using to try and create your
CD? That might help us help you practically, rather than theoretically.

To answer your questions:

tao is track at once, as opposed to disk at once. It's what you get with
the cdrecord -audio option.

I mistyped and confused you. I was asking whether you really mean to
create an audio CD, such as you might play in your stereo? Or do you
really mean to put .wav or mp3 files on a CD ROM? It's not the same
thing.

Lastly, it's not copying in this case. Here's a brief extract from the
cdrecord man page. Notice that it speaks of "extracting data" from the
.wav file:

If a filename ends in .au or .wav the file is considered to be a
structured audio data file.  Cdrecord assumes that the file in this case
is a Sun audio file or a Microsoft .WAV file and extracts the audio data
from the files by skipping over the non- audio header information.  In
all other cases, cdrecord will only work correctly if the audio data
stream does not have any header.  Because many structured audio files do
not have an integral number of blocks (1/75th second) in length, it is
often necessary to specify the -pad option as well.  cdrecord recognizes
that audio data in a .WAV file is stored in Intel (little- endian) byte
order, and will automatically byte-swap the data if the CD recorder
requires big-endian data.

Patricia Logan writes:
> From: Patricia Logan <plogan@dorsai.org>
> 
> 
> Hi, Janina,
> 
>      Your instructions have left me utterly confused.  Please 
> educate me by explaining:
> 1.  Why use the -tao option?
> 2.  What is a "duio" CD?
> 3.  In getting wav files from ones' hard disc to a blank CDR 
> using cdrecord, whether one has ripped them or gotten them some 
> other way, isn't copying what one is doing?
> 
> I recognize that it is very important that I comprehend what is 
> really going on with this process.  Thanks for helping.
> 
>      Pat
> On Sun, 24 
> Nov 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> 
> > If you're trying to make an audio CD from your .wav files, use -tao,
> > track at once, not -dao, disk at once mode.
> > 
> > At least, I understood you to say you wanted to make an duio CD, and not
> > a CD ROM containing .wav files. In any case, you don't "copy" them to
> > the compact disk medium.
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				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Igor Gueths]

I believe she means audio Cd. The difference between tao/dao mode is that
tao leaves a 2-3 second gap between tracks, whereas dao records all the
tracks as if they were a single track. And yes copying is basically what
you are doing.

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Patricia Logan wrote:

>
> Hi, Janina,
>
>      Your instructions have left me utterly confused.  Please
> educate me by explaining:
> 1.  Why use the -tao option?
> 2.  What is a "duio" CD?
> 3.  In getting wav files from ones' hard disc to a blank CDR
> using cdrecord, whether one has ripped them or gotten them some
> other way, isn't copying what one is doing?
>
> I recognize that it is very important that I comprehend what is
> really going on with this process.  Thanks for helping.
>
>      Pat
> On Sun, 24
> Nov 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > If you're trying to make an audio CD from your .wav files, use -tao,
> > track at once, not -dao, disk at once mode.
> >
> > At least, I understood you to say you wanted to make an duio CD, and not
> > a CD ROM containing .wav files. In any case, you don't "copy" them to
> > the compact disk medium.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
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Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Patricia Logan]

Hi, Janina,

     Your instructions have left me utterly confused.  Please 
educate me by explaining:
1.  Why use the -tao option?
2.  What is a "duio" CD?
3.  In getting wav files from ones' hard disc to a blank CDR 
using cdrecord, whether one has ripped them or gotten them some 
other way, isn't copying what one is doing?

I recognize that it is very important that I comprehend what is 
really going on with this process.  Thanks for helping.

     Pat
On Sun, 24 
Nov 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> If you're trying to make an audio CD from your .wav files, use -tao,
> track at once, not -dao, disk at once mode.
> 
> At least, I understood you to say you wanted to make an duio CD, and not
> a CD ROM containing .wav files. In any case, you don't "copy" them to
> the compact disk medium.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Inability to make a audio cd of mp3s

[Janina Sajka]

If you're trying to make an audio CD from your .wav files, use -tao,
track at once, not -dao, disk at once mode.

At least, I understood you to say you wanted to make an duio CD, and not
a CD ROM containing .wav files. In any case, you don't "copy" them to
the compact disk medium.