Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Alex Snow]

Just encase your interested...
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
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Subject: Movie: Apollo 13


> Pebbles-XFM is showing the audio-described movie Apollo 13 on 9 November
at
> 20:00 UTC, 8pm UK time, and 3pm Eastern. Astronauts Jim Lovell, Fred Haise
> and Jack Swigert try to come back alive after an explosion aborts the
April
> 1970 moonshot. From Lovell's memoir "Lost Moon". Starring Tom Hanks, Bill
> Paxton, Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan Ron Howard
> Rated PG
>
>
> We'll be playing music for the previous 45 minutes to give you a chance to
> tune in. The movie lasts 128 minutes.
>
> If you have any comments on the movie or the quality of the stream contact
> the email address at the bottom of this message. We love to get feedback
on
> the shows, good or bad, even if it's just a quick
> note to say you listened.
> You can email Pebbles-XFM at: -
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>
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Charles Crawford]

Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.  Will video description 
survive?  Damn right it will and all who care about it will need to work 
with ACB to make it happen.

-- charlie Crawford.
At 08:52 AM 11/09/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Just encase your interested...
>Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
>sick of Winblows!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pebbles-XFM" <john.gurd@ntlworld.com>
>To: "Blindy List" <blindy@yahoogroups.com>; "ACCESS-UK"
><access-uk@egroups.com>; <blindcast@egroups.com>; "Stream It"
><streamad@yahoogroups.com>; "Stream Madness" <streammadness@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:25 AM
>Subject: Movie: Apollo 13
>
>
> > Pebbles-XFM is showing the audio-described movie Apollo 13 on 9 November
>at
> > 20:00 UTC, 8pm UK time, and 3pm Eastern. Astronauts Jim Lovell, Fred Haise
> > and Jack Swigert try to come back alive after an explosion aborts the
>April
> > 1970 moonshot. From Lovell's memoir "Lost Moon". Starring Tom Hanks, Bill
> > Paxton, Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan Ron Howard
> > Rated PG
> >
> >
> > We'll be playing music for the previous 45 minutes to give you a chance to
> > tune in. The movie lasts 128 minutes.
> >
> > If you have any comments on the movie or the quality of the stream contact
> > the email address at the bottom of this message. We love to get feedback
>on
> > the shows, good or bad, even if it's just a quick
> > note to say you listened.
> > You can email Pebbles-XFM at: -
> > pebbles.xfm@ntlworld.com
> >
> > Don't forget you have to paste the link into Winamp, clicking on it will
>not
> > work. We recommend Winamp to listen to Pebbles XFM. Windows Media Player
>or
> > Real Player seem to have problems accessing some of the streams. You can
>get
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> >
> > Press ctrl-l and then paste one of the following addresses into Winamp: -
> >
> > pebbles-xfm.no-ip.com:8000
> > pebbles-xfm2.no-ip.com:8000
> > http://theserver.kicks-ass.net:8000/pebbles-xfm
> >
> >
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Geoff Shang]

On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Charles Crawford wrote:

> Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.

I've obviously missed something.  What ruling was this?

Geoff.

Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[ccrawford]

The DC Court of Appeals vacated the FCC rule requiring described video 
on TV.

-- chrlie.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Geoff Shang wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Charles Crawford wrote:
> 
> > Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.
> 
> I've obviously missed something.  What ruling was this?
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Charles,

Hmmm, well, I doubt that simply because the entertainment industry is not
being forced to provide audio description that means in any way that the
future of voluntary audio description is in jeopardy.  I'm certain projects
like DVS would certainly continue as they are now; I do sure wish more
titles were available!

You know, I think celebrities should apply some pressure on the rest of the
industry to provide greater audio description for the movies in which they
star.  I mean, most already have a rather lengthy liberal record.  How about
instead of supporting un-American institutions such as terrorists and
corrupted charities, they support blind Americans?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Crawford" <CCrawford@ACB.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13


> Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.  Will video
description
> survive?  Damn right it will and all who care about it will need to work
> with ACB to make it happen.
>
> -- charlie Crawford.
> At 08:52 AM 11/09/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Just encase your interested...
> >Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> >sick of Winblows!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pebbles-XFM" <john.gurd@ntlworld.com>
> >To: "Blindy List" <blindy@yahoogroups.com>; "ACCESS-UK"
> ><access-uk@egroups.com>; <blindcast@egroups.com>; "Stream It"
> ><streamad@yahoogroups.com>; "Stream Madness"
<streammadness@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:25 AM
> >Subject: Movie: Apollo 13
> >
> >
> > > Pebbles-XFM is showing the audio-described movie Apollo 13 on 9
November
> >at
> > > 20:00 UTC, 8pm UK time, and 3pm Eastern. Astronauts Jim Lovell, Fred
Haise
> > > and Jack Swigert try to come back alive after an explosion aborts the
> >April
> > > 1970 moonshot. From Lovell's memoir "Lost Moon". Starring Tom Hanks,
Bill
> > > Paxton, Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan Ron
Howard
> > > Rated PG
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll be playing music for the previous 45 minutes to give you a
chance to
> > > tune in. The movie lasts 128 minutes.
> > >
> > > If you have any comments on the movie or the quality of the stream
contact
> > > the email address at the bottom of this message. We love to get
feedback
> >on
> > > the shows, good or bad, even if it's just a quick
> > > note to say you listened.
> > > You can email Pebbles-XFM at: -
> > > pebbles.xfm@ntlworld.com
> > >
> > > Don't forget you have to paste the link into Winamp, clicking on it
will
> >not
> > > work. We recommend Winamp to listen to Pebbles XFM. Windows Media
Player
> >or
> > > Real Player seem to have problems accessing some of the streams. You
can
> >get
> > > Winamp as well as lots of helpful advice from: -
> > > http://www.shannon.reece.net/Winamp4TheBlind.html
> > >
> > > Press ctrl-l and then paste one of the following addresses into
Winamp: -
> > >
> > > pebbles-xfm.no-ip.com:8000
> > > pebbles-xfm2.no-ip.com:8000
> > > http://theserver.kicks-ass.net:8000/pebbles-xfm
> > >
> > >
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Janina Sajka]

This wouldn't be the new NFB strategy now, would it? I thought NFB's problem was described entertainment was
inappropriate for blind people. Instead, we're supposed to have news and educational matter. Am I wrong?


Darrell Shandrow writes:
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@azboss.net>
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> Hmmm, well, I doubt that simply because the entertainment industry is not
> being forced to provide audio description that means in any way that the
> future of voluntary audio description is in jeopardy.  I'm certain projects
> like DVS would certainly continue as they are now; I do sure wish more
> titles were available!
> 
> You know, I think celebrities should apply some pressure on the rest of the
> industry to provide greater audio description for the movies in which they
> star.  I mean, most already have a rather lengthy liberal record.  How about
> instead of supporting un-American institutions such as terrorists and
> corrupted charities, they support blind Americans?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Crawford" <CCrawford@ACB.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13
> 
> 
> > Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.  Will video
> description
> > survive?  Damn right it will and all who care about it will need to work
> > with ACB to make it happen.
> >
> > -- charlie Crawford.
> > At 08:52 AM 11/09/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Just encase your interested...
> > >Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
> I'm
> > >sick of Winblows!
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Pebbles-XFM" <john.gurd@ntlworld.com>
> > >To: "Blindy List" <blindy@yahoogroups.com>; "ACCESS-UK"
> > ><access-uk@egroups.com>; <blindcast@egroups.com>; "Stream It"
> > ><streamad@yahoogroups.com>; "Stream Madness"
> <streammadness@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:25 AM
> > >Subject: Movie: Apollo 13
> > >
> > >
> > > > Pebbles-XFM is showing the audio-described movie Apollo 13 on 9
> November
> > >at
> > > > 20:00 UTC, 8pm UK time, and 3pm Eastern. Astronauts Jim Lovell, Fred
> Haise
> > > > and Jack Swigert try to come back alive after an explosion aborts the
> > >April
> > > > 1970 moonshot. From Lovell's memoir "Lost Moon". Starring Tom Hanks,
> Bill
> > > > Paxton, Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan Ron
> Howard
> > > > Rated PG
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We'll be playing music for the previous 45 minutes to give you a
> chance to
> > > > tune in. The movie lasts 128 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > If you have any comments on the movie or the quality of the stream
> contact
> > > > the email address at the bottom of this message. We love to get
> feedback
> > >on
> > > > the shows, good or bad, even if it's just a quick
> > > > note to say you listened.
> > > > You can email Pebbles-XFM at: -
> > > > pebbles.xfm@ntlworld.com
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget you have to paste the link into Winamp, clicking on it
> will
> > >not
> > > > work. We recommend Winamp to listen to Pebbles XFM. Windows Media
> Player
> > >or
> > > > Real Player seem to have problems accessing some of the streams. You
> can
> > >get
> > > > Winamp as well as lots of helpful advice from: -
> > > > http://www.shannon.reece.net/Winamp4TheBlind.html
> > > >
> > > > Press ctrl-l and then paste one of the following addresses into
> Winamp: -
> > > >
> > > > pebbles-xfm.no-ip.com:8000
> > > > pebbles-xfm2.no-ip.com:8000
> > > > http://theserver.kicks-ass.net:8000/pebbles-xfm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pebbles-XFM
> > > > pebbles.xfm@ntlworld.com
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Janina Sajka]

Geoff Shang writes:
> 
> On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Charles Crawford wrote:
> 
> > Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.
> 
> I've obviously missed something.  What ruling was this?
> 
Here's a posting from Kelly Ford to the WebWatch list on this subject:

From: "Kelly Ford" <kelly@kellford.com>
Delivered-To: mailing list webwatch@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:46:00 -0800
Subject: [webwatch] Court Vacates FCC Order of Video Description

As some likely know a bit ago the FCC passed an order mandating some network
broadcasts include video description.  The order was appealed and today the
court ruled.  The full ruling is at

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=DC&navby=case&no=011149A.

The heart of the ruling said:

By its terms, the Act does not provide the FCC with the authority to enact
video description rules. Contrary to the FCC's arguments suggesting
otherwise,
§ 1, 47 U.S.C. § 151, does not give the FCC unlimited authority to act as it
sees fit with respect to all aspects of television transmissions, without
regard to the scope of the proposed regulations. We hold that where, as in
this case, the FCC promulgates regulations that significantly implicate
program
content, § 1 is not a source of authority. Because the FCC can point to no
other statutory authority, the video description regulations must be
vacated.
Accordingly, MPAA's petition for review is hereby granted. NFB's petition
for review is dismissed as moot, because the regulations to which they
object
will be vacated pursuant to the court's judgment in this case.

Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[David Poehlman]

so we are a cherity now?  we demand equality and dvs can give us some of
that.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@azboss.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13


Hi Charles,

Hmmm, well, I doubt that simply because the entertainment industry is
not
being forced to provide audio description that means in any way that the
future of voluntary audio description is in jeopardy.  I'm certain
projects
like DVS would certainly continue as they are now; I do sure wish more
titles were available!

You know, I think celebrities should apply some pressure on the rest of
the
industry to provide greater audio description for the movies in which
they
star.  I mean, most already have a rather lengthy liberal record.  How
about
instead of supporting un-American institutions such as terrorists and
corrupted charities, they support blind Americans?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Crawford" <CCrawford@ACB.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13


> Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.  Will video
description
> survive?  Damn right it will and all who care about it will need to
work
> with ACB to make it happen.
>
> -- charlie Crawford.
> At 08:52 AM 11/09/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Just encase your interested...
> >Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module
kernel32.dll.
I'm
> >sick of Winblows!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pebbles-XFM" <john.gurd@ntlworld.com>
> >To: "Blindy List" <blindy@yahoogroups.com>; "ACCESS-UK"
> ><access-uk@egroups.com>; <blindcast@egroups.com>; "Stream It"
> ><streamad@yahoogroups.com>; "Stream Madness"
<streammadness@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:25 AM
> >Subject: Movie: Apollo 13
> >
> >
> > > Pebbles-XFM is showing the audio-described movie Apollo 13 on 9
November
> >at
> > > 20:00 UTC, 8pm UK time, and 3pm Eastern. Astronauts Jim Lovell,
Fred
Haise
> > > and Jack Swigert try to come back alive after an explosion aborts
the
> >April
> > > 1970 moonshot. From Lovell's memoir "Lost Moon". Starring Tom
Hanks,
Bill
> > > Paxton, Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan Ron
Howard
> > > Rated PG
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll be playing music for the previous 45 minutes to give you a
chance to
> > > tune in. The movie lasts 128 minutes.
> > >
> > > If you have any comments on the movie or the quality of the stream
contact
> > > the email address at the bottom of this message. We love to get
feedback
> >on
> > > the shows, good or bad, even if it's just a quick
> > > note to say you listened.
> > > You can email Pebbles-XFM at: -
> > > pebbles.xfm@ntlworld.com
> > >
> > > Don't forget you have to paste the link into Winamp, clicking on
it
will
> >not
> > > work. We recommend Winamp to listen to Pebbles XFM. Windows Media
Player
> >or
> > > Real Player seem to have problems accessing some of the streams.
You
can
> >get
> > > Winamp as well as lots of helpful advice from: -
> > > http://www.shannon.reece.net/Winamp4TheBlind.html
> > >
> > > Press ctrl-l and then paste one of the following addresses into
Winamp: -
> > >
> > > pebbles-xfm.no-ip.com:8000
> > > pebbles-xfm2.no-ip.com:8000
> > > http://theserver.kicks-ass.net:8000/pebbles-xfm
> > >
> > >
> > > Pebbles-XFM
> > > pebbles.xfm@ntlworld.com
> > >
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Well, this is a shame.  I'm really at a loss as to where the effort goes
from here.  If this were in Australia, I'm confident we'd be able to use
our antidiscrimination legislation to get something done about it.  But the
ADA sounds like it only applies to so-called "public accommodations" and
I'm not confident that TV would be covered.

This concerns me because a vast amount of TV programs come from the US and
when we eventually get described TV here, material that's already available
will surely have an impact on how much we get to hear.

This subject will be discussed on Blind LIne on ACB Radio Mainstream on
Sunday at 20 hours GMT, that's 3Pm Eastern, noon Pacific and 6Am Monday
morning for poor old me here in Brisbane.

Geoff.



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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[ccrawford]

You make good points.  Maybe the industry will now do it voluntarilly, but 
if not; we will be in Congress next.  The only problem with all of this is 
that the industry did nothing for 15 years and we hope our having jump 
started the system will now keep the car going.

-- chrlie.


On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hi Charles,
> 
> Hmmm, well, I doubt that simply because the entertainment industry is not
> being forced to provide audio description that means in any way that the
> future of voluntary audio description is in jeopardy.  I'm certain projects
> like DVS would certainly continue as they are now; I do sure wish more
> titles were available!
> 
> You know, I think celebrities should apply some pressure on the rest of the
> industry to provide greater audio description for the movies in which they
> star.  I mean, most already have a rather lengthy liberal record.  How about
> instead of supporting un-American institutions such as terrorists and
> corrupted charities, they support blind Americans?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Crawford" <CCrawford@ACB.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13
> 
> 
> > Interesting posting after yesterday's court ruling.  Will video
> description
> > survive?  Damn right it will and all who care about it will need to work
> > with ACB to make it happen.
> >
> > -- charlie Crawford.
> > At 08:52 AM 11/09/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Just encase your interested...
> > >Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
> I'm
> > >sick of Winblows!
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Pebbles-XFM" <john.gurd@ntlworld.com>
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> > >Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 6:25 AM
> > >Subject: Movie: Apollo 13
> > >
> > >
> > > > Pebbles-XFM is showing the audio-described movie Apollo 13 on 9
> November
> > >at
> > > > 20:00 UTC, 8pm UK time, and 3pm Eastern. Astronauts Jim Lovell, Fred
> Haise
> > > > and Jack Swigert try to come back alive after an explosion aborts the
> > >April
> > > > 1970 moonshot. From Lovell's memoir "Lost Moon". Starring Tom Hanks,
> Bill
> > > > Paxton, Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan Ron
> Howard
> > > > Rated PG
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We'll be playing music for the previous 45 minutes to give you a
> chance to
> > > > tune in. The movie lasts 128 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > If you have any comments on the movie or the quality of the stream
> contact
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> > >on
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Re: Fw: Movie: Apollo 13

[ccrawford]

	I will not take up too much room talking about this but to say I 
appreciate your concerns and we in the U.S. will win this one.  We will 
not rest until we do.

-- Charlie Crawford.


On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Geoff Shang wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Well, this is a shame.  I'm really at a loss as to where the effort goes
> from here.  If this were in Australia, I'm confident we'd be able to use
> our antidiscrimination legislation to get something done about it.  But the
> ADA sounds like it only applies to so-called "public accommodations" and
> I'm not confident that TV would be covered.
> 
> This concerns me because a vast amount of TV programs come from the US and
> when we eventually get described TV here, material that's already available
> will surely have an impact on how much we get to hear.
> 
> This subject will be discussed on Blind LIne on ACB Radio Mainstream on
> Sunday at 20 hours GMT, that's 3Pm Eastern, noon Pacific and 6Am Monday
> morning for poor old me here in Brisbane.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
> 
>