Network card problems

Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Hi all,

i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I ran
netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like using
dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted it to
probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network card,
using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig eth0.
And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address, etc,
but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for that
port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns on for
about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
What could be my problem?
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!

Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

This card *does* work, I tried it in another machine running win98.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: Network card problems


> Hi all,
>
> i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I ran
> netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like using
> dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted it
to
> probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network card,
> using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig eth0.
> And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address, etc,
> but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for that
> port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns on
for
> about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> What could be my problem?
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Adam Myrow]

Is there a long delay during bootup?  If so, it means that DHCP isn't
working right.  Does your router even support DHCP?  If so, does it
require a hostname?  If you are seeing your NIC when you do ifconfig, it
is probably working right.

Re: Network card problems

[Gregory Nowak]

Then I'd say there is a problem with dhcp under gnu/linux for you. Maybe the dhcp server is pppoe, or pppoa? Slackware's netconfig script will not set those up for you as far as I know, it will only setup the regular dhcp and isc dhcp client.

Greg


On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 05:47:11PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> This card *does* work, I tried it in another machine running win98.
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
> Subject: Network card problems
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I ran
> > netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like using
> > dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted it
> to
> > probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network card,
> > using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig eth0.
> > And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address, etc,
> > but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for that
> > port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns on
> for
> > about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> > What could be my problem?
> > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> > sick of Winblows!
> >
> >
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

No, I wouldn't say there's a long delay during bootup.  The router
deffinately supports dhcp, that's how all the other machines on the lan are
configured.  Maybe I'll try to disable dhcp and manually assign ips.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Is there a long delay during bootup?  If so, it means that DHCP isn't
> working right.  Does your router even support DHCP?  If so, does it
> require a hostname?  If you are seeing your NIC when you do ifconfig, it
> is probably working right.
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

It's the dhcp server in my router, which to the best of my knoledge is
standard dhcp.  My cable company also uses standard dhcp.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Then I'd say there is a problem with dhcp under gnu/linux for you. Maybe
the dhcp server is pppoe, or pppoa? Slackware's netconfig script will not
set those up for you as far as I know, it will only setup the regular dhcp
and isc dhcp client.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 05:47:11PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > This card *does* work, I tried it in another machine running win98.
> > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> > sick of Winblows!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
> > Subject: Network card problems
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I
ran
> > > netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like
using
> > > dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted
it
> > to
> > > probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network
card,
> > > using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig
eth0.
> > > And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address,
etc,
> > > but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for
that
> > > port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns
on
> > for
> > > about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> > > What could be my problem?
> > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> > > sick of Winblows!
> > >
> > >
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Re: Network card problems

[Erik Heil]

Hi there.  Does it obtain any information from the DHCP server such as
gateway, subnet mask, or anything like that?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: Network card problems


> Hi all,
>
> i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I ran
> netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like using
> dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted it
to
> probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network card,
> using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig eth0.
> And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address, etc,
> but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for that
> port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns on
for
> about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> What could be my problem?
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!
>
>
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Nope, that's why I'm starting to think it's a dhcp issue.  All it shows is
the mac address of the adapter and lots of other crap about rx and tx
packets etc.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Hi there.  Does it obtain any information from the DHCP server such as
> gateway, subnet mask, or anything like that?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
> Subject: Network card problems
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I ran
> > netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like
using
> > dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted it
> to
> > probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network card,
> > using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig
eth0.
> > And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address,
etc,
> > but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for that
> > port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns on
> for
> > about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> > What could be my problem?
> > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> > sick of Winblows!
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Re: Network card problems

[Geoff Shang]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:

> Nope, that's why I'm starting to think it's a dhcp issue.  All it shows is
> the mac address of the adapter and lots of other crap about rx and tx
> packets etc.

ummm.  In my experience, it only shows you the RX and TX packets and stuff
if the interface is actually up and running, which suggests that it's
actually working.  I might be wrong though, it's awhile since I've seen
ifconfig on a device that's not working.

The output of a working interface should look like this:

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:18:3D:09:B3
          inet addr:10.2.0.1  Bcast:10.2.0.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:373766 errors:0 dropped:18 overruns:0 frame:6
          TX packets:369948 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:981 txqueuelen:100
          Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6100

Perhaps, if possible, you could send us your ifconfig output.  If the link
light is coming on for a short spell during boot-up, perhaps listen to the
boot sequence to see what's happening.  The relevant bit is not likely to
be in dmesg but you could look there anyway just in case.

Geoff.

Re: Network card problems

[Adam Myrow]

If you can, tell us what happens during bootup with DHCP.  It should say
something like "attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server."
Next, the DHCP command is supposed to report back what it gets.  If you
never see the "attempting to configure eth0" message, rerun netconfig and
make sure you selected DHCP.  DHCP is the second choice, static IP is the
first.  DHCP only asks if you need to supply a hostname, and most of us
don't.  It mentions that Cox at home is an exception where you need to
supply a hostname to DHCP.  Like I said, the card is definitely
functioning.  Good luck

Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it the
new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see the
the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only problem
is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on the
card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the card
seems to be detected fine.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> If you can, tell us what happens during bootup with DHCP.  It should say
> something like "attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server."
> Next, the DHCP command is supposed to report back what it gets.  If you
> never see the "attempting to configure eth0" message, rerun netconfig and
> make sure you selected DHCP.  DHCP is the second choice, static IP is the
> first.  DHCP only asks if you need to supply a hostname, and most of us
> don't.  It mentions that Cox at home is an exception where you need to
> supply a hostname to DHCP.  Like I said, the card is definitely
> functioning.  Good luck
>
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

That's pretty much what my ifconfig output looks like.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > Nope, that's why I'm starting to think it's a dhcp issue.  All it shows
is
> > the mac address of the adapter and lots of other crap about rx and tx
> > packets etc.
>
> ummm.  In my experience, it only shows you the RX and TX packets and stuff
> if the interface is actually up and running, which suggests that it's
> actually working.  I might be wrong though, it's awhile since I've seen
> ifconfig on a device that's not working.
>
> The output of a working interface should look like this:
>
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:18:3D:09:B3
>           inet addr:10.2.0.1  Bcast:10.2.0.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:373766 errors:0 dropped:18 overruns:0 frame:6
>           TX packets:369948 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:981 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6100
>
> Perhaps, if possible, you could send us your ifconfig output.  If the link
> light is coming on for a short spell during boot-up, perhaps listen to the
> boot sequence to see what's happening.  The relevant bit is not likely to
> be in dmesg but you could look there anyway just in case.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Toby Fisher]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:

> I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
> including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it the
> new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see the
> the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only problem
> is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on the
> card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the card
> seems to be detected fine.

If you are using an isa network card, as I think was mentioned earlier
this week, you may first need to configure the card's eprom.  Usually, the
card will come with a utility for DOS and Windows to do this.  If this is
the case, the problem is that the network card does not know what irq and
base address it is using, and thus Linux has no way to find it.

HTH

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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

But linux is finding it.  When netconfig probed for network cards it came
back with my card, which is using the 3c509 driver.
I do have a diagnostic program for this card, I just have to compile it.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
> > including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it
the
> > new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see
the
> > the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only
problem
> > is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> > connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on
the
> > card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the
card
> > seems to be detected fine.
>
> If you are using an isa network card, as I think was mentioned earlier
> this week, you may first need to configure the card's eprom.  Usually, the
> card will come with a utility for DOS and Windows to do this.  If this is
> the case, the problem is that the network card does not know what irq and
> base address it is using, and thus Linux has no way to find it.
>
> HTH
>
> --
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Re: Network card problems

[Erik Heil]

Hi.  Wouldn't the Eprom be configured if it already had Windows init the
card?  or does it have to be reset each time the machine is booted?  BC
those with Wake-on LAN support actually store the values in NVRAM.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
> > including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it
the
> > new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see
the
> > the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only
problem
> > is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> > connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on
the
> > card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the
card
> > seems to be detected fine.
>
> If you are using an isa network card, as I think was mentioned earlier
> this week, you may first need to configure the card's eprom.  Usually, the
> card will come with a utility for DOS and Windows to do this.  If this is
> the case, the problem is that the network card does not know what irq and
> base address it is using, and thus Linux has no way to find it.
>
> HTH
>
> --
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

No I think the values are stored in eeprom on the card.  This card is an
etherlink3, and the date on the card is 1992 I think.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Hi.  Wouldn't the Eprom be configured if it already had Windows init the
> card?  or does it have to be reset each time the machine is booted?  BC
> those with Wake-on LAN support actually store the values in NVRAM.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Network card problems
>
>
> > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
> >
> > > I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the
network,
> > > including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it
> the
> > > new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see
> the
> > > the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only
> problem
> > > is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> > > connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on
> the
> > > card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the
> card
> > > seems to be detected fine.
> >
> > If you are using an isa network card, as I think was mentioned earlier
> > this week, you may first need to configure the card's eprom.  Usually,
the
> > card will come with a utility for DOS and Windows to do this.  If this
is
> > the case, the problem is that the network card does not know what irq
and
> > base address it is using, and thus Linux has no way to find it.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > --
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Re: Network card problems

[Toby Fisher]

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Erik Heil wrote:

> Hi.  Wouldn't the Eprom be configured if it already had Windows init the
> card?  or does it have to be reset each time the machine is booted?  BC
> those with Wake-on LAN support actually store the values in NVRAM.

As I recall, the only time I had to reconfigure it was when I rebuilt the
machine, so it must be a power thing.

Cheers.

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Re: Network card problems

[Igor Gueths]

This is corect. And since most routers run embedded Linux, you can count
on a proper Dhcp implementation. However, something like w9x doesn't
implement it properly. I wonder what microcrap was thinking when they
tried to implement their verison of dhcp?

microsoft dialogue
   This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
   If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
   close button

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:

> It's the dhcp server in my router, which to the best of my knoledge is
> standard dhcp.  My cable company also uses standard dhcp.
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Network card problems
>
>
> > Then I'd say there is a problem with dhcp under gnu/linux for you. Maybe
> the dhcp server is pppoe, or pppoa? Slackware's netconfig script will not
> set those up for you as far as I know, it will only setup the regular dhcp
> and isc dhcp client.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 05:47:11PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > This card *does* work, I tried it in another machine running win98.
> > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
> I'm
> > > sick of Winblows!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
> > > Subject: Network card problems
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When I
> ran
> > > > netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings, like
> using
> > > > dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I wanted
> it
> > > to
> > > > probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network
> card,
> > > > using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran ifconfig
> eth0.
> > > > And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac address,
> etc,
> > > > but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for
> that
> > > > port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router turns
> on
> > > for
> > > > about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> > > > What could be my problem?
> > > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
> I'm
> > > > sick of Winblows!
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Network card problems

[Igor Gueths]

Ifconfig will report this information even if the interface is down.
However, the rx/tx packets will all be of a value 0.

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   This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
   If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
   close button

On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Geoff Shang wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > Nope, that's why I'm starting to think it's a dhcp issue.  All it shows is
> > the mac address of the adapter and lots of other crap about rx and tx
> > packets etc.
>
> ummm.  In my experience, it only shows you the RX and TX packets and stuff
> if the interface is actually up and running, which suggests that it's
> actually working.  I might be wrong though, it's awhile since I've seen
> ifconfig on a device that's not working.
>
> The output of a working interface should look like this:
>
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:18:3D:09:B3
>           inet addr:10.2.0.1  Bcast:10.2.0.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:373766 errors:0 dropped:18 overruns:0 frame:6
>           TX packets:369948 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:981 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0x6100
>
> Perhaps, if possible, you could send us your ifconfig output.  If the link
> light is coming on for a short spell during boot-up, perhaps listen to the
> boot sequence to see what's happening.  The relevant bit is not likely to
> be in dmesg but you could look there anyway just in case.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Christopher Moore]

Do you have a working ethernet cable?  Try checking your connection to the
router with a known working machine.  

Chris
-- 
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Re: Network card problems

[Igor Gueths]

Are you sure that you're on the same subnet as the router? The router and
machines should have the same netmask.

microsoft dialogue
   This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
   If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
   close button

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:

> I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
> including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it the
> new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see the
> the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only problem
> is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on the
> card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the card
> seems to be detected fine.
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Network card problems
>
>
> > If you can, tell us what happens during bootup with DHCP.  It should say
> > something like "attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server."
> > Next, the DHCP command is supposed to report back what it gets.  If you
> > never see the "attempting to configure eth0" message, rerun netconfig and
> > make sure you selected DHCP.  DHCP is the second choice, static IP is the
> > first.  DHCP only asks if you need to supply a hostname, and most of us
> > don't.  It mentions that Cox at home is an exception where you need to
> > supply a hostname to DHCP.  Like I said, the card is definitely
> > functioning.  Good luck
> >
> >
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Re: Network card problems

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

OK, I'll assume you're giving the correct netmask and gateway addresses.
Are there routing rules being set up?  Type route and you should see
something like this:

Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
localnet        *               255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0

If you're wanting to reach the net through this card, you'll also need a
default route.

If this is all OK, what happens if you ping your router?  do you get an
error message or does it just hang?  If it hangs, it's probably something
like cabling or something.

Geoff.


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Re: Network card problems

[Adam Myrow]

Alex, you may want to look at the Ethernet howto.  I mention this because
it talks about how Linux can sometimes guess the wrong IRQ with older ISA
cards like yours.  This card, if it is indeed from 1992 as you state
predates ISA Plug 'N Play, so that won't help.  Does it have jumpers?  If
you can, see what IRQ and base address are given the card on a known
working machine.  Then, look at /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports on your
Linux machine with the card installed and see if they match.  although I
thought the card was working before, I am beginning to wonder if it's some
kind of resource conflict.  As examples, here are my /proc/interrupts and
/proc/ioports.  Note that my /proc/interrupts looks a bit strange because
I'm utilizing the APIC on my machine which gives me interrupts above 15.
Wish Windows knew about this.
--Begin /proc/interrupts

           CPU0
  0:    3205307    IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:      22383    IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
  2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
  3:     624437    IO-APIC-edge  serial
  5:        955    IO-APIC-edge  soundblaster
  8:          1    IO-APIC-edge  rtc
 14:      50603    IO-APIC-edge  ide0
 15:          7    IO-APIC-edge  ide1
 17:      12691   IO-APIC-level  serial
 18:          7   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
 19:     222466   IO-APIC-level  eth0
NMI:          0
LOC:    3205525
ERR:          0
MIS:          0
--End /proc/interrupts

--Begin /proc/ioports

0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0213-0213 : isapnp read
0220-022f : soundblaster
0278-027a : parport0
027b-027f : parport0
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : bns
0620-0623 : sound driver (AWE32)
0a20-0a23 : sound driver (AWE32)
0a79-0a79 : isapnp write
0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
0e20-0e23 : sound driver (AWE32)
f400-f4ff : Adaptec AHA-7850
f800-f8ff : Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100
  f800-f8ff : tulip
fce8-fcef : TOPIC SEMICONDUCTOR Corp TP560 Data/Fax/Voice 56k modem
  fce8-fcef : serial(set)
fcf0-fcff : Intel Corp. 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II]
  fcf0-fcf7 : ide0
  fcf8-fcff : ide1

--End /proc/ioports

Re: Network card problems

[shaun_oliver]

it's also possible you don't have the support for bootp and rarp
compiled into your kernel.

-- 
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          and walls who needs Windows and Gates?

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Re: Network card problems

[Gregory Nowak]

Well, neither do I, and I am using dhcp just fine without them. My nic is a pci 3c905c if anyone wants to know.
Greg


On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 02:54:32PM +1000, shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> it's also possible you don't have the support for bootp and rarp
> compiled into your kernel.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> In a world without fences
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

No the card doesn't have jumpers, the settings are in eeprom on the card.
If memory serves me, it's using irq10.

Now that dhcp has been disabled on my lan, the link/act light on the router
turns on during boot and remains on while the machine is running.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Alex, you may want to look at the Ethernet howto.  I mention this because
> it talks about how Linux can sometimes guess the wrong IRQ with older ISA
> cards like yours.  This card, if it is indeed from 1992 as you state
> predates ISA Plug 'N Play, so that won't help.  Does it have jumpers?  If
> you can, see what IRQ and base address are given the card on a known
> working machine.  Then, look at /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports on your
> Linux machine with the card installed and see if they match.  although I
> thought the card was working before, I am beginning to wonder if it's some
> kind of resource conflict.  As examples, here are my /proc/interrupts and
> /proc/ioports.  Note that my /proc/interrupts looks a bit strange because
> I'm utilizing the APIC on my machine which gives me interrupts above 15.
> Wish Windows knew about this.
> --Begin /proc/interrupts
>
>            CPU0
>   0:    3205307    IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:      22383    IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
>   3:     624437    IO-APIC-edge  serial
>   5:        955    IO-APIC-edge  soundblaster
>   8:          1    IO-APIC-edge  rtc
>  14:      50603    IO-APIC-edge  ide0
>  15:          7    IO-APIC-edge  ide1
>  17:      12691   IO-APIC-level  serial
>  18:          7   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  19:     222466   IO-APIC-level  eth0
> NMI:          0
> LOC:    3205525
> ERR:          0
> MIS:          0
> --End /proc/interrupts
>
> --Begin /proc/ioports
>
> 0000-001f : dma1
> 0020-003f : pic1
> 0040-005f : timer
> 0060-006f : keyboard
> 0070-007f : rtc
> 0080-008f : dma page reg
> 00a0-00bf : pic2
> 00c0-00df : dma2
> 00f0-00ff : fpu
> 0170-0177 : ide1
> 01f0-01f7 : ide0
> 0213-0213 : isapnp read
> 0220-022f : soundblaster
> 0278-027a : parport0
> 027b-027f : parport0
> 02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
> 0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
> 0376-0376 : ide1
> 03c0-03df : vga+
> 03f6-03f6 : ide0
> 03f8-03ff : bns
> 0620-0623 : sound driver (AWE32)
> 0a20-0a23 : sound driver (AWE32)
> 0a79-0a79 : isapnp write
> 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
> 0e20-0e23 : sound driver (AWE32)
> f400-f4ff : Adaptec AHA-7850
> f800-f8ff : Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100
>   f800-f8ff : tulip
> fce8-fcef : TOPIC SEMICONDUCTOR Corp TP560 Data/Fax/Voice 56k modem
>   fce8-fcef : serial(set)
> fcf0-fcff : Intel Corp. 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II]
>   fcf0-fcf7 : ide0
>   fcf8-fcff : ide1
>
> --End /proc/ioports
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I gave netconfig the right addresses, the gateway is
192.168.1.1 and the netmask is 255.255.255.0.
How do I setup a default route? The only thing I did with the network when I
installed slackware is run netconfig.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Hi:
>
> OK, I'll assume you're giving the correct netmask and gateway addresses.
> Are there routing rules being set up?  Type route and you should see
> something like this:
>
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
Iface
> localnet        *               255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0
eth0
>
> If you're wanting to reach the net through this card, you'll also need a
> default route.
>
> If this is all OK, what happens if you ping your router?  do you get an
> error message or does it just hang?  If it hangs, it's probably something
> like cabling or something.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
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>
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Yup, I'm on the same subnet as the router, 255.255.255.0.  The other machine
on the network has net access perfictly fine.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Are you sure that you're on the same subnet as the router? The router and
> machines should have the same netmask.
>
> microsoft dialogue
>    This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
>    If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
>    close button
>
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
> > including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it
the
> > new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see
the
> > the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only
problem
> > is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> > connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on
the
> > card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the
card
> > seems to be detected fine.
> > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> > sick of Winblows!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Network card problems
> >
> >
> > > If you can, tell us what happens during bootup with DHCP.  It should
say
> > > something like "attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP
server."
> > > Next, the DHCP command is supposed to report back what it gets.  If
you
> > > never see the "attempting to configure eth0" message, rerun netconfig
and
> > > make sure you selected DHCP.  DHCP is the second choice, static IP is
the
> > > first.  DHCP only asks if you need to supply a hostname, and most of
us
> > > don't.  It mentions that Cox at home is an exception where you need to
> > > supply a hostname to DHCP.  Like I said, the card is definitely
> > > functioning.  Good luck
> > >
> > >
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Yeah this is a working cable, when I tested it on another machine everything
worked fine.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Moore" <christopher.h.moore@verizon.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Do you have a working ethernet cable?  Try checking your connection to the
> router with a known working machine.
>
> Chris
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

I don't think they were thinking at all.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> This is corect. And since most routers run embedded Linux, you can count
> on a proper Dhcp implementation. However, something like w9x doesn't
> implement it properly. I wonder what microcrap was thinking when they
> tried to implement their verison of dhcp?
>
> microsoft dialogue
>    This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
>    If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
>    close button
>
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
>
> > It's the dhcp server in my router, which to the best of my knoledge is
> > standard dhcp.  My cable company also uses standard dhcp.
> > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> > sick of Winblows!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: Network card problems
> >
> >
> > > Then I'd say there is a problem with dhcp under gnu/linux for you.
Maybe
> > the dhcp server is pppoe, or pppoa? Slackware's netconfig script will
not
> > set those up for you as far as I know, it will only setup the regular
dhcp
> > and isc dhcp client.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 05:47:11PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > This card *does* work, I tried it in another machine running win98.
> > > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module
kernel32.dll.
> > I'm
> > > > sick of Winblows!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:38 PM
> > > > Subject: Network card problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > i put a 3com etherlink3 isa ethernet card into my linux box.  When
I
> > ran
> > > > > netconfig to set up the network, I filled out all my settings,
like
> > using
> > > > > dhcp and the address of my dhcp server, and when it asked if I
wanted
> > it
> > > > to
> > > > > probe for my nic, I said yes.  It came back with the right network
> > card,
> > > > > using the 3c509 module.  I then finished netconfig, and ran
ifconfig
> > eth0.
> > > > > And now my problem occurred.  Everything was shown, like mac
address,
> > etc,
> > > > > but no ip address.  Also the link light on my router wasn't on for
> > that
> > > > > port.  I restarted and found that the link light on the router
turns
> > on
> > > > for
> > > > > about 5 seconds during boot, then goes out.
> > > > > What could be my problem?
> > > > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module
kernel32.dll.
> > I'm
> > > > > sick of Winblows!
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Network card problems

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

My distribution doesn't have netconfig, so I'm not familiar with what it
does.  But I'd guess that it would have sorted the routing out for you if
it's any decent kind of a script.

Anyway, if you type "route", what do you see?

geoff.


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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

When i get speach installed I'll lok at the route command.  It's hard to do
anything relying on sited assistance.  But I should be able to get a hold of
a nullmodem cable today so I can get speach.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Hi:
>
> My distribution doesn't have netconfig, so I'm not familiar with what it
> does.  But I'd guess that it would have sorted the routing out for you if
> it's any decent kind of a script.
>
> Anyway, if you type "route", what do you see?
>
> geoff.
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: Network card problems

[shaun_oliver]

couldn't you telnet in from a windblows box and issue the command from
there? assuming of course you've allowed root access via telnet or ssh,
either one will do for the point of the excersise.

-- 
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 It's multiple choice time...
      What is FORTRAN?
      a: Between thre and fiv tran.
      b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
      c: Ridiculous.

Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

I'd do that, but the network won't work on the linux box yet.  How do I
inable root access via telnet or ssh?
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> couldn't you telnet in from a windblows box and issue the command from
> there? assuming of course you've allowed root access via telnet or ssh,
> either one will do for the point of the excersise.
>
> --
> Shaun Oliver
>
>  It's multiple choice time...
>       What is FORTRAN?
>       a: Between thre and fiv tran.
>       b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
>       c: Ridiculous.
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

You don't need to allow root access for telnet or SSH, just use "su" or
"sudo".  Personally, I think it's a lot safer not allowing root access
directly, as this way a person needs to crack 2 passwords before getting
root access.

Geoff.


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Re: Network card problems

[Igor Gueths]

Well whatever you do use console-telnet or something similar. The winblows
telnet client sucks ass! First of all you can't even review the terminal
properly if you wanted to, and if I am in vi I can't move around in the
active terminal. I don't call that a decent telnet client.

microsoft dialogue
   This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
   If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
   close button

On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au wrote:

> couldn't you telnet in from a windblows box and issue the command from
> there? assuming of course you've allowed root access via telnet or ssh,
> either one will do for the point of the excersise.
>
> --
> Shaun Oliver
>
>  It's multiple choice time...
>       What is FORTRAN?
>       a: Between thre and fiv tran.
>       b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
>       c: Ridiculous.
>
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Re: Network card problems

[shaun_oliver]

*SNIP SNIP*
How do I
inable root access via telnet or ssh?
ok, maybe I chose my words poorly. but in order to be able to telnet or
ssh in as root you need to edit your /etc/securetty.conf
hth

-- 
Shaun Oliver

 It's multiple choice time...
      What is FORTRAN?
      a: Between thre and fiv tran.
      b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
      c: Ridiculous.

Re: Network card problems

[shaun_oliver]

ok Geoff's suggestion was a far better way of doing things.
especially from a security stand point.
just telnet ip address
login with your normal user account and then type su with no
parameters You'll be prompted for a password. type yer root password and
bingo.

-- 
Shaun Oliver

 It's multiple choice time...
      What is FORTRAN?
      a: Between thre and fiv tran.
      b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
      c: Ridiculous.

Re: Network card problems

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

the problem with editing securetty is that you can't predict which TTY a
login will come in on, particularly if you've got a few users.  I know
there's a command to allow root login over ssh and it's the default in
Debian woody's configuration, but I rejected it so I don't know what it is.

Geoff.


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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

I'm currently using securecrt but that even sucks.  When i get a nullmodem
cable So I can use speakup then I won't need to worry about any of those
winblows telnet clients.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Well whatever you do use console-telnet or something similar. The winblows
> telnet client sucks ass! First of all you can't even review the terminal
> properly if you wanted to, and if I am in vi I can't move around in the
> active terminal. I don't call that a decent telnet client.
>
> microsoft dialogue
>    This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
>    If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
>    close button
>
> On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
> > couldn't you telnet in from a windblows box and issue the command from
> > there? assuming of course you've allowed root access via telnet or ssh,
> > either one will do for the point of the excersise.
> >
> > --
> > Shaun Oliver
> >
> >  It's multiple choice time...
> >       What is FORTRAN?
> >       a: Between thre and fiv tran.
> >       b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
> >       c: Ridiculous.
> >
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logging

[Patrick Turnage]

Hi
I have debian 3.0 and want to have it not keep putting the log entry mark
in my messages log every 20 minutes.. how can I stop this behavior?



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Re: Network card problems

[Gregory Nowak]

Ok, I'll kill 3 birds with one stone so to speak.

A lot of you are suggesting that Alex telnet into his new box. However, as Alex has already stated, his network interface on that box doesn't work, (that's what this whole thread is trying to solve).

Second, slackware's netconfig should already have added a default route for you. If not, the syntax is as follows.

"route add default gw 192.168.1.1 netmask 0.0.0.0"

I know some people will ask why you need the netmask 0.0.0.0 part, but things don't work for me if I don't include it. Also, I didn't make that up, I got it from my /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 or rc.inet2 file (don't remember which one configures the interfaces).

Greg


On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> Yeah, I'm pretty sure I gave netconfig the right addresses, the gateway is
> 192.168.1.1 and the netmask is 255.255.255.0.
> How do I setup a default route? The only thing I did with the network when I
> installed slackware is run netconfig.
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!

Re: logging

[Gregory Nowak]

Find where your distro starts the syslogd daemon. After "syslogd", put in " -m 0". So, a part of your line should read "syslogd -m 0".

Greg


On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 12:27:52PM -0400, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hi
> I have debian 3.0 and want to have it not keep putting the log entry mark
> in my messages log every 20 minutes.. how can I stop this behavior?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Ok I looked at /proc/ioports and /proc/interrupts, and the card is given
irq10 and base address
0280-028f.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Alex, you may want to look at the Ethernet howto.  I mention this because
> it talks about how Linux can sometimes guess the wrong IRQ with older ISA
> cards like yours.  This card, if it is indeed from 1992 as you state
> predates ISA Plug 'N Play, so that won't help.  Does it have jumpers?  If
> you can, see what IRQ and base address are given the card on a known
> working machine.  Then, look at /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports on your
> Linux machine with the card installed and see if they match.  although I
> thought the card was working before, I am beginning to wonder if it's some
> kind of resource conflict.  As examples, here are my /proc/interrupts and
> /proc/ioports.  Note that my /proc/interrupts looks a bit strange because
> I'm utilizing the APIC on my machine which gives me interrupts above 15.
> Wish Windows knew about this.
> --Begin /proc/interrupts
>
>            CPU0
>   0:    3205307    IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:      22383    IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
>   3:     624437    IO-APIC-edge  serial
>   5:        955    IO-APIC-edge  soundblaster
>   8:          1    IO-APIC-edge  rtc
>  14:      50603    IO-APIC-edge  ide0
>  15:          7    IO-APIC-edge  ide1
>  17:      12691   IO-APIC-level  serial
>  18:          7   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  19:     222466   IO-APIC-level  eth0
> NMI:          0
> LOC:    3205525
> ERR:          0
> MIS:          0
> --End /proc/interrupts
>
> --Begin /proc/ioports
>
> 0000-001f : dma1
> 0020-003f : pic1
> 0040-005f : timer
> 0060-006f : keyboard
> 0070-007f : rtc
> 0080-008f : dma page reg
> 00a0-00bf : pic2
> 00c0-00df : dma2
> 00f0-00ff : fpu
> 0170-0177 : ide1
> 01f0-01f7 : ide0
> 0213-0213 : isapnp read
> 0220-022f : soundblaster
> 0278-027a : parport0
> 027b-027f : parport0
> 02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
> 0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
> 0376-0376 : ide1
> 03c0-03df : vga+
> 03f6-03f6 : ide0
> 03f8-03ff : bns
> 0620-0623 : sound driver (AWE32)
> 0a20-0a23 : sound driver (AWE32)
> 0a79-0a79 : isapnp write
> 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
> 0e20-0e23 : sound driver (AWE32)
> f400-f4ff : Adaptec AHA-7850
> f800-f8ff : Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100
>   f800-f8ff : tulip
> fce8-fcef : TOPIC SEMICONDUCTOR Corp TP560 Data/Fax/Voice 56k modem
>   fce8-fcef : serial(set)
> fcf0-fcff : Intel Corp. 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II]
>   fcf0-fcf7 : ide0
>   fcf8-fcff : ide1
>
> --End /proc/ioports
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Adam Myrow]

Now, is anything else using IRQ 10 or that base address?

Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Nope.  I made sure of that.
APIC was mentioned, but no irq is over 15.  That may be because I have only
two cards, the network card and the video card.  And that's not counting the
stuff inside, like ide controlers and such.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Now, is anything else using IRQ 10 or that base address?
>
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Bear in SFO]

at's just the subnet mask.  Your subnet should be, from the info you gave us, X

Check your other machine and check if the first 3 of the 4 group of numbers 
matches the above pattern...

Afterall it may not be a bad idea to just get a new card - Fast Ethernet 
cards are no more than $20 these days.

I know, I still have, oh, maybe 15 of those 3C509s and they are just 
sitting there coz they ain't worth anything anymore (then again I can't 
complaint coz I got them for free)

--David

At 08:56 AM 10/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Yup, I'm on the same subnet as the router, 255.255.255.0.  The other machine
>on the network has net access perfictly fine.
>Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
>sick of Winblows!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:34 PM
>Subject: Re: Network card problems
>
>
> > Are you sure that you're on the same subnet as the router? The router and
> > machines should have the same netmask.
> >
> > microsoft dialogue
> >    This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.
> >    If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
> >    close button
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
> >
> > > I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the network,
> > > including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave it
>the
> > > new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I see
>the
> > > the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only
>problem
> > > is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I can't
> > > connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration on
>the
> > > card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the
>card
> > > seems to be detected fine.
> > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
>I'm
> > > sick of Winblows!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Network card problems
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you can, tell us what happens during bootup with DHCP.  It should
>say
> > > > something like "attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP
>server."
> > > > Next, the DHCP command is supposed to report back what it gets.  If
>you
> > > > never see the "attempting to configure eth0" message, rerun netconfig
>and
> > > > make sure you selected DHCP.  DHCP is the second choice, static IP is
>the
> > > > first.  DHCP only asks if you need to supply a hostname, and most of
>us
> > > > don't.  It mentions that Cox at home is an exception where you need to
> > > > supply a hostname to DHCP.  Like I said, the card is definitely
> > > > functioning.  Good luck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Yeah I thought about that.  When I went out looking for a cable I also
looked at cards, I couldn't find anything at the three stores I tried.  One
store was completely out and the others sold ne2k shit for like $25.  I
think I found a netgear something for like $20 but I don't like netgear,
ever since I turned my isa netgear ea201 to full duplex and it started
smoking.  The card has to be good, if it works in other machines.

how did you get network cards for free?  I gotta look into that, since I can
never have too many cards.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bear in SFO" <BearSFO@PacBell.NET>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


>
> at's just the subnet mask.  Your subnet should be, from the info you gave
us, X
>
> Check your other machine and check if the first 3 of the 4 group of
numbers
> matches the above pattern...
>
> Afterall it may not be a bad idea to just get a new card - Fast Ethernet
> cards are no more than $20 these days.
>
> I know, I still have, oh, maybe 15 of those 3C509s and they are just
> sitting there coz they ain't worth anything anymore (then again I can't
> complaint coz I got them for free)
>
> --David
>
> At 08:56 AM 10/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Yup, I'm on the same subnet as the router, 255.255.255.0.  The other
machine
> >on the network has net access perfictly fine.
> >Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
> >sick of Winblows!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: Network card problems
> >
> >
> > > Are you sure that you're on the same subnet as the router? The router
and
> > > machines should have the same netmask.
> > >
> > > microsoft dialogue
> > >    This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut
down.
> > >    If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux
> > >    close button
> > >
> > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just got rid of dhcp, and have assigned all computers on the
network,
> > > > including the linux box, ip addresses.  I reran netconfig and gave
it
> >the
> > > > new ip address, netmask, and gateway.  Now when I type ifconfig I
see
> >the
> > > > the net address is 192.168.1.101, that's what I assigned it.  Only
> >problem
> > > > is I still have no network support.  I can't ping the box, and I
can't
> > > > connect to my router using lynx.  Could there be some configuration
on
> >the
> > > > card that is messed up? Someone suggested that I run isapnp, but the
> >card
> > > > seems to be detected fine.
> > > > Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module
kernel32.dll.
> >I'm
> > > > sick of Winblows!
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 6:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Network card problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you can, tell us what happens during bootup with DHCP.  It
should
> >say
> > > > > something like "attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP
> >server."
> > > > > Next, the DHCP command is supposed to report back what it gets.
If
> >you
> > > > > never see the "attempting to configure eth0" message, rerun
netconfig
> >and
> > > > > make sure you selected DHCP.  DHCP is the second choice, static IP
is
> >the
> > > > > first.  DHCP only asks if you need to supply a hostname, and most
of
> >us
> > > > > don't.  It mentions that Cox at home is an exception where you
need to
> > > > > supply a hostname to DHCP.  Like I said, the card is definitely
> > > > > functioning.  Good luck
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: Network card problems

[Bear in SFO]

Wouldn't 'su -' work better?!

--David

At 01:26 AM 10/7/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>ok Geoff's suggestion was a far better way of doing things.
>especially from a security stand point.
>just telnet ip address
>login with your normal user account and then type su with no
>parameters You'll be prompted for a password. type yer root password and
>bingo.
>
>--
>Shaun Oliver
>
>  It's multiple choice time...
>       What is FORTRAN?
>       a: Between thre and fiv tran.
>       b: What two computers engage in before they interface.
>       c: Ridiculous.
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Re: logging

[Bear in SFO]

Ah, logging, just the perfect place to piggy-back my question:

I dunno what RH8 looks like but after I installed 7.3 I get this 'tripwire 
not found: run /etc/tripwire/twinstall.sh and/or tripwire --init' message 
every day.  Got sick of the message so I went ahead and installed it.

Now the message becomes 'File not found' about 107 times.  Files like 
/proc/scsi, root/.xsession, /root/.elm, and /root/.pine...

Anyone any idea how to fix this?!

--David

At 12:27 PM 10/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi
>I have debian 3.0 and want to have it not keep putting the log entry mark
>in my messages log every 20 minutes.. how can I stop this behavior?
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Adam Myrow]

Well, if you can get the network card I got, you'll be happy with it.  It
is the Lynksis Everywhere Fast Ethernet Adapter.  It was about $18 at Wal
Mart and comes with a floppy with Windows, Linux, Free BSD, and a few
other drivers.  Of course, the Linux kernel supports it as well using the
Tulip driver, and I suggest you use the one in the kernel as it's newer.
Slackware picked up the card with no problems whatsoever and I have gotten
spectacular performance with it.  Oh yes, no issues with DHCP either.

Re: Network card problems

[Bear in SFO]

One of these days, my friend, a gigabit card...

I heard the Intel Pro/1000 are fairly reasonably priced but I haven't looked...

At 06:19 PM 10/6/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, if you can get the network card I got, you'll be happy with it.  It
>is the Lynksis Everywhere Fast Ethernet Adapter.  It was about $18 at Wal
>Mart and comes with a floppy with Windows, Linux, Free BSD, and a few
>other drivers.  Of course, the Linux kernel supports it as well using the
>Tulip driver, and I suggest you use the one in the kernel as it's newer.
>Slackware picked up the card with no problems whatsoever and I have gotten
>spectacular performance with it.  Oh yes, no issues with DHCP either.
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

Yeah i have pretty much the same card in this box.  It's a linksys lne100tx,
it came with drivers for linux, winblows, freebsd, and others.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Well, if you can get the network card I got, you'll be happy with it.  It
> is the Lynksis Everywhere Fast Ethernet Adapter.  It was about $18 at Wal
> Mart and comes with a floppy with Windows, Linux, Free BSD, and a few
> other drivers.  Of course, the Linux kernel supports it as well using the
> Tulip driver, and I suggest you use the one in the kernel as it's newer.
> Slackware picked up the card with no problems whatsoever and I have gotten
> spectacular performance with it.  Oh yes, no issues with DHCP either.
>
>
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Re: Network card problems

[Alex Snow]

It's a pretty damn good card, i haven't had any complaints.
Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
sick of Winblows!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Network card problems


> Yeah i have pretty much the same card in this box.  It's a linksys
lne100tx,
> it came with drivers for linux, winblows, freebsd, and others.
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm
> sick of Winblows!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Network card problems
>
>
> > Well, if you can get the network card I got, you'll be happy with it.
It
> > is the Lynksis Everywhere Fast Ethernet Adapter.  It was about $18 at
Wal
> > Mart and comes with a floppy with Windows, Linux, Free BSD, and a few
> > other drivers.  Of course, the Linux kernel supports it as well using
the
> > Tulip driver, and I suggest you use the one in the kernel as it's newer.
> > Slackware picked up the card with no problems whatsoever and I have
gotten
> > spectacular performance with it.  Oh yes, no issues with DHCP either.
> >
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Re: Network card problems

[Jude DaShiell]

Sounds like my ethernet card connection to verizon.net.  I can do
everything with it but when I start up adsl-start the connection always
times out.

Re: Network card problems

[Kerry Hoath]

The pc might not be seeing the interrupts from the card;
this would result in packets going out but no packets beeing received.
If you cat /proc/interrupts you s hould see a possitive number on the line for the network card.
On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 04:52:46PM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote:
> Is there a long delay during bootup?  If so, it means that DHCP isn't
> working right.  Does your router even support DHCP?  If so, does it
> require a hostname?  If you are seeing your NIC when you do ifconfig, it
> is probably working right.
> 
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Re: Network card problems

[Kerry Hoath]

The kernel s upport for bootp and rarp and only required
for diskless workstations; t he kernel is responsible for
bringing up the interface and mounting root via nfs.

Regars, Kerry.
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 02:54:32PM +1000, shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> it's also possible you don't have the support for bootp and rarp
> compiled into your kernel.
> 
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