* multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive @ Thomas Stivers ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Stivers @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup list Has anyone with a soundblaster live card gotten both of the outputs working? If so I would like to know how. Thanks for any assistance -- Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@ev1.net http://stivers-home.dyndns.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive Thomas Stivers @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` Thomas Stivers 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thomas, Run the 'alsamixer'. The rightmost control toggles the second output channel. hth --terry On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:47:02AM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote: > Has anyone with a soundblaster live card gotten both of the outputs > working? If so I would like to know how. Thanks for any assistance > -- > Thomas Stivers > e-mail: stivers_t@ev1.net > http://stivers-home.dyndns.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: (705) 422-0039 E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Thomas Stivers ` Terry D. Cudney ` multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive Gene Collins 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Stivers @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup All i could do with this control was mute and unmute it and that did not make my second pair of speakers make a sound. In windows I can plug into the jack nearest the midi port and get a second sterio output. I tried the one farthest from the midi port as well with the same results. It required that I set something for quadraphonic speakers in the creative program that came with the card, but I've never gotten this to work with alsa. Perhapse the creative program loads something proprietary on to the card or something, I will look into it more. On 10/03/02 3:10 -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Thomas, > > Run the 'alsamixer'. The rightmost control toggles the second output channel. > > hth > > --terry > > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:47:02AM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote: > > Has anyone with a soundblaster live card gotten both of the outputs > > working? If so I would like to know how. Thanks for any assistance > > -- > > Thomas Stivers > > e-mail: stivers_t@ev1.net > > http://stivers-home.dyndns.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Name: Terry D. Cudney > Phone: (705) 422-0039 > E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com > Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... > having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@ev1.net http://stivers-home.dyndns.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive ` Thomas Stivers @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` big sigh and many questions Anna Schneider ` multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive Gene Collins 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thomas, The only other thing I can think of is: check the volume setting on the "Wave Surround" channel. It works for me... Speakers are connected to the jack nearest the midi port for the Wave Surround, and to the next jack for the other speakers. Oh yeah, the level of output seems to be lower on the first jack (nearest the midi port). I use powered speakers on that channel and turn the volume up a bit more on the speakers. Other than that, I have no ideas... HTH, --terry On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 02:43:39PM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote: > All i could do with this control was mute and unmute it and that did not > make my second pair of speakers make a sound. In windows I can plug into > the jack nearest the midi port and get a second sterio output. I > tried the one farthest from the midi port as well with the same > results. It required that I set something for quadraphonic speakers in > the creative program that came with the card, but I've never gotten > this to work with > alsa. Perhapse the creative program loads something proprietary on to the > card or something, I will look into it more. > > On 10/03/02 3:10 -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > > Thomas, > > > > Run the 'alsamixer'. The rightmost control toggles the second output channel. > > > > hth > > > > --terry > > > > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:47:02AM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote: > > > Has anyone with a soundblaster live card gotten both of the outputs > > > working? If so I would like to know how. Thanks for any assistance > > > -- > > > Thomas Stivers > > > e-mail: stivers_t@ev1.net > > > http://stivers-home.dyndns.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > > > Name: Terry D. Cudney > > Phone: (705) 422-0039 > > E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com > > Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... > > having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > Thomas Stivers > e-mail: stivers_t@ev1.net > http://stivers-home.dyndns.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: (705) 422-0039 E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* big sigh and many questions. ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Anna Schneider ` Igor Gueths ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Anna Schneider @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Anna Schneider back again. See I try to work on my system, hit problems almost immediately and then don't do anything for two months. Such is my relationship with computers. Now, let's see if I can make any sense. First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has? second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end. This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because I don't know where to look. Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know what to look for. Can anyone sort through this and give me pointers. This is starting to throw my life into chaos. Thanks much. Anna ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` big sigh and many questions Anna Schneider @ ` Igor Gueths ` Bear in SFO ` Anna Schneider ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Geoff Shang 2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi there. Ok in terms of mounting a filesystem, you do mount devicename /mnt. /mnt is your mount point in this case. In order to determine what device node your cdrom is mapped to, you can do the following: dmesg > output. Include the > sign for this is a redirection operator! The above command will redirect all the kernel start-up messages to the file output which you can view with the command: pico output. Then press ctrl+x to exit. In terms of telnetting/ssh to other machines, have you tried the ip address instead of the hostname? I.e., instead of public.library.com, try 24.62.33.1? The above is hypothetical. Do you know what dns servers your isp uses? Once ou find out, you need to enter these values in /etc/resolv.conf in the form nameserver serverip, where serverip is the ip address of the server. Each server has its own line with nameserver preceding it. Good luck. If you have any more questions, you can e-mail me at igueths@attbi.com microsoft dialogue This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux close button On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Anna Schneider wrote: > > Anna Schneider back again. See I try to work on my system, hit problems > almost immediately and then don't do anything for two months. Such is my > relationship with computers. Now, let's see if I can make any sense. > > First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat > CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do > something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how > do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD > writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has? > > second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but > then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config > files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on > them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about > host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, > from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the > Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when > I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find > it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end. > > This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I > try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they > are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because > I don't know where to look. Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not > as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know > what to look for. > > Can anyone sort through this and give me pointers. This is starting to > throw my life into chaos. > > Thanks much. > > Anna > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` Igor Gueths @ ` Bear in SFO ` Scott Howell ` Anna Schneider 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Bear in SFO @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The CDROM, if I remember correctly, would be either /mnt/cdrom or /dev/cdrom At 05:55 PM 10/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hi there. Ok in terms of mounting a filesystem, you do mount devicename >/mnt. /mnt is your mount point in this case. In order to determine what >device node your cdrom is mapped to, you can do the following: dmesg > >output. Include the > sign for this is a redirection operator! The above >command will redirect all the kernel start-up messages to the file output >which you can view with the command: pico output. Then press ctrl+x to >exit. In terms of telnetting/ssh to other machines, have you tried the ip >address instead of the hostname? I.e., instead of public.library.com, try >24.62.33.1? The above is hypothetical. Do you know what dns servers your >isp uses? Once ou find out, you need to enter these values in >/etc/resolv.conf in the form nameserver serverip, where serverip is the ip >address of the server. Each server has its own line with nameserver >preceding it. Good luck. If you have any more questions, you can e-mail me >at igueths@attbi.com > >microsoft dialogue > This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux > close button > >On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Anna Schneider wrote: > > > > > Anna Schneider back again. See I try to work on my system, hit problems > > almost immediately and then don't do anything for two months. Such is my > > relationship with computers. Now, let's see if I can make any sense. > > > > First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat > > CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do > > something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how > > do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD > > writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has? > > > > second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but > > then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config > > files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on > > them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about > > host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, > > from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the > > Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when > > I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find > > it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end. > > > > This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I > > try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they > > are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because > > I don't know where to look. Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not > > as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know > > what to look for. > > > > Can anyone sort through this and give me pointers. This is starting to > > throw my life into chaos. > > > > Thanks much. > > > > Anna > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` Bear in SFO @ ` Scott Howell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Scott Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup First Anna, look at /dev and here you will find all the names for your devices. You can look for things such as /dev/cdrom which is a symbolic link to a device e.g. for me /dev/cdrom is a symlink to /dev/scd1 which is the first scsi cdrom on my mcine. You might find your cdrom listed as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdb. I think what you really need is to get over to http://www.linuxdocs.org and read through the howtos. If you read some of these and ask questions on the items you don't understand, you'll get more useful answers. Sounds like your taking a run at this instead of waling. Btw, your probably having problems resolving any hosts because possibly you don't have a properly configured /etc/resolv.con file. You need to configure this file to address a dns server. It would look something like. search example.com nameserver 123.456.789.0 and you would need to get the nameserver address from your isp or point it to a publically accessible server. I'll answer any questions I can, but you really should check out the site I referenced above. You find some incredibly useful information. Not sure what to read, I think we can get you a list to start with. Also, working on it and then putting it down for several months at a time really is tought. You have to remember all you learned previously and if your memory is anything like mine, its to full and some minor details tend to fall out of my ears while I sleep. Also, one final comment. You'll find that those documents might be html so be sure you have a browser like lynx on your box if this is the case. Ah, yes the modem. You probably need to add yourself to the modem group. Look in /etc/group and find the line that says something like modem:x:4: I don't know how RedHat does it, but you might find the above line is different. I dont' have a modem and no modem group, but see what you have and if you do just add your user name at the end of the line. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` Igor Gueths ` Bear in SFO @ ` Anna Schneider ` Adam Myrow ` Edward L. Barnes 1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Anna Schneider @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Okay, so I'm going to try now and modify my /etc/resolv.conf. What is current says is as follow: /etc/resolv.conf domain kickstart.com nameserver 192.168.2.99 search kickstart.com I this just establishing the format for me? Should I leave it in and add my otherservers below? And for the namer of the server with my e-mail account, would I put just cascadia.drizzle.com or would I put annas@cascadia.drizzle.com. Anna ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` Anna Schneider @ ` Adam Myrow ` Edward L. Barnes 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Those are examples, not actual servers. You can use them as an example, but don't keep them. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` Anna Schneider ` Adam Myrow @ ` Edward L. Barnes 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Edward L. Barnes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi there Anna. Well, the names of the domain servers your isp would like you to use to resolve domains with your ppp account go in a file called: resolv.conf As I believe it was Adam who already pointed out to you the output you mentioned in regard to kickstart orwhatever it was called are only samples for you to use as a guide. Also, the server for your email doesn't go anywhere in your resolv.conf file but rather that would go in your .fetchmailrc file instead. At the end of this message I have included my own resolv.conf file as a sample in the hope that it will be helpful, from what I know of your situation yours would need to look similar though I'm surprised that dhcp hasn't created it for you. I also did a whois lookup on drizzle.com for ya and got the names and ips for their name servers. The info is as follows: Domain servers in listed order. giantsquid.drizzle.com 216.162.192.12 acresofclams.drizzle.com 216.162.192.4 Lastly, here's my resolv.conf file so you can see its format] domain sympaticowarp.ca nameserver 142.163.127.61 nameserver 209.128.1.4 search sympaticowarp.ca Good luck and hth, furhter, might I suggest you take a look at speak freely and try to get that up and running at some point as I am sure you'd find the reflector to also be a cool place to hang out and possibly obtain assistance, though you probably already know this its address is: lwl.braille.uwo.ca:4074 Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Anna Schneider wrote: > Okay, so I'm going to try now and modify my /etc/resolv.conf. What is > current says is as follow: > > /etc/resolv.conf > domain kickstart.com > nameserver 192.168.2.99 > search kickstart.com > > > > I this just establishing the format for me? Should I leave it in and add > my otherservers below? > > And for the namer of the server with my e-mail account, would I put just > cascadia.drizzle.com or would I put annas@cascadia.drizzle.com. > > Anna > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` big sigh and many questions Anna Schneider ` Igor Gueths @ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Geoff Shang ` Kerry Hoath ` Geoff Shang 2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Funny this should come up on the list. Jerry and I just discovered yesterday that PPP puts a copy of resolv.conf in the /etc/ppp directory. I don't know for sure if this is the correct way to fix this, but it'll work. Just copy the resolv.conf that ppp made when you last connected to your ISP to where the resolver expects it to be. As root, do: "cp /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc", without the quotes, of course. You'll be prompted to confirm the replacement of /etc/resolv.conf. Say y. The next time you connect, you should be fine. HTH. -- Bill in Denver On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Anna Schneider wrote: > > Anna Schneider back again. See I try to work on my system, hit problems > almost immediately and then don't do anything for two months. Such is my > relationship with computers. Now, let's see if I can make any sense. > > First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat > CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do > something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how > do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD > writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has? > > second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but > then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config > files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on > them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about > host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, > from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the > Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when > I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find > it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end. > > This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I > try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they > are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because > I don't know where to look. Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not > as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know > what to look for. > > Can anyone sort through this and give me pointers. This is starting to > throw my life into chaos. > > Thanks much. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ ` Geoff Shang ` Kerry Hoath 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Geoff Shang @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Bill: This thing of PPP generating a resolv.conf is done so that you can make use of DNS server addresses that are supplied by the peer when you connect. I think the idea is that you have a script back up your existing resolver when you shift the new one into place, and do the reverse when the link goes down. It's awhile since I looked at it since I'm now using cable, but I'm pretty sure that's what Debian now does. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 ` Geoff Shang @ ` Kerry Hoath 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Kerry Hoath @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup No t his is not the correct way to do this but it wi ll work. When you use the usepeerdns option to pppd; it stashes the dns server information in /etc/ppp/resolv.conf. the scripts called as part of /etc/ppp/ip-up should copy this into a place where the resolver can see them for example: cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.org cp /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc and then in the /etc/ppp/ip-down set of scripts: cp /etc/resolv.conf.org /etc/resolv.conf Debian sources all scripts in t he /etc/ppp/ip-up.d directory as part of /etc/ppp/ip-up script and t he same for /etc/ppp/ip-down.d scripts. this may help yo u figure out th e "right" thing to do wit h redhat. Regards, Kerry. On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:14:19PM -0600, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 wrote: > Hi, > > Funny this should come up on the list. Jerry and I just discovered > yesterday that PPP puts a copy of resolv.conf in the /etc/ppp directory. > I don't know for sure if this is the correct way to fix this, but it'll > work. Just copy the resolv.conf that ppp made when you last connected to > your ISP to where the resolver expects it to be. As root, do: "cp > /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc", without the quotes, of course. You'll be > prompted to confirm the replacement of /etc/resolv.conf. Say y. The next > time you connect, you should be fine. > > > > > HTH. > -- > Bill in Denver > -- Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or kerry@gotss.spice.net.au ICQ: 8226547 msn: kerry@gotss.net Yahoo: kerryhoath@yahoo.com.au ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` big sigh and many questions Anna Schneider ` Igor Gueths ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ ` Geoff Shang 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Geoff Shang @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Anna: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Anna Schneider wrote: > First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat > CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do > something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how > do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD > writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has? OK. First, to mount a device, you have to be root. Second, you need to find out what device you need to mount ... unless you've already found out. check in /etc/fstab to see if there's an entry that looks like this: /dev/cdrom /cdrom auto defaults,noauto,ro 0 0 If you have, then mounting will be easy. All you'll need to type is: mount cdrom and it'll mount it on the stipulated mountpoint (in this case, /cdrom). If you don't have a line like this in your /etc/fstab file, you'll need to do a bit more investigation. 1. Determine which device is your CD ROM. If you know already, skip to number 2. First, see if you have a device called /dev/cdrom. This is usually a link to the proper device name that's used for convenience. Type the following to check: ls -l /dev/cdrom If you get something like: ls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory Then you don't have a /dev/cdrom device. If you do have one, you'll get something that looks like this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Nov 7 2001 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdb You don't need to take a note of the /dev/hdb or whatever it's linked to, since you'll be able to use /dev/cdrom to refer to it. If you don't have a /dev/cdrom link, we need to look still further. Type: dmesg |more Here you'll see all that stuff you hear at boot-up which tells you a lot about your system. Look for lines like this: hdd: ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE 24X MAXIMUM, ATAPI CDROM drive and hdd: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache hmmm. They;re a bit contradictory. ah well. Anyway you'll notice the hdd at the front of the line (can you tell this came from a different machine from the first example?). hdd is the device name for the CD ROM. Depending on your setup, it'll either be something like HDA through HDD, or SCD0 or something. NOTE: If you don't see anything like this at all in dmesg, then chances are that your CD ROM is not being identified and if so, none of the below is going to help you at all. 2. OK, we've figured out what device the CD ROM is. Now what? Ok, to mount a filesystem, you need both a device to mount and a place on which to mount it. Most distributions have directories set aside for this sort of thing, like /mnt and /cdrom. but you can call them whatever you want. Just so long as it's an empty directory somewhere. I'll use /cdrom as it's convenient and says what it is. To mount your CDROM, ensure you have a data disk in the drive, then type: mount /dev/hdd /cdrom Substitute hdd for the device name for your cdrom device. And yes, if you have a /dev/cdrom link then by all means use that. Providing all went well, you'll be returned to your command prompt. At this point, you'll now have the contents of the CD available under your mount point. so if there's a file called README in the root directory of the CD, it'll be listed as /cdrom/README providing you mounted it on /cdrom. to explore it fully, you'll probably want to cd to the directory you've mounted the CDROM on and use ls and such to see what's there. While the CD is mounted, you won't be able to eject the CD. So you'll want to unmount it at some point. to do this, make sure you're not in any of the directories being used by that device (i.e. if you've mounted it on /cdrom then make sure you're not in the /cdrom directory or any of its subdirectories). then type: umount /cdrom or whatever the mountpoint is you've used. 3. OK. I had to go digging for the devicename and now I can mount and unmount my CD using it. But you referred to some conveniences to make this simpler? Yes. If you don't have a /dev/cdrom link to your CD device, you can make it by, as root typing: ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom Of course, if your CD ROM is another device then type that instead of /dev/hdd. This is a good thing to do as many programs look for /dev/cdrom when wanting to use the CD ROM device. If you do this, you'll be able to type commands like: mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom If you want to be able to just type "mount /cdrom" then you'll want an entry in /etc/fstab. Mine looks like this: /dev/cdrom /cdrom auto defaults,noauto,ro 0 0 You can probably just cut and paste this example if you want to mount it on /cdrom. Just before I move on. I've listed a number of things you need to do as root, and there'll be more further down. Remember when you're root, most of the safety features are over-ridden. So it's vital that you make sure you've typed commands correctly before you run them, as if you mess up it might be difficult to undo. > second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but > then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config > files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on > them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about > host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, > from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the > Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when > I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find > it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end. It is. As you may have guessed, your linux machine is unable to turn the host names you give it into IP addresses. This is because it is probably not configured to ask a DNS server about it. There's a couple of ways to deal with this. The simplest way is to get the IP addresses of the DNS servers your ISP uses and put them in /etc/resolv.conf like so: nameserver 61.9.208.14 nameserver 61.9.208.15 nameserver 61.9.192.15 You may need to ask your ISP for the addresses, but since you have a shell account on your ISP, then you can probably find out yourself what their DNS servers are. Since many programs need to be able to read the resolver file, try typing (on your shell account): cat /etc/resolv.conf I just tried it on a shell I use and I can do it. this will make life easy for you as you'll be able to cut and paste the nameserver entries from their file into yours. Of course, you'll need to connect to your shell account while in LInux to do this, but if you can get the IP address of the host machine then you should be able to telnet to that IP address since it won't need to be looked up. Many ISPs configure PPP to tell your machine the addresses of their DNS servers automatically. As you will have seen on the speakup list, there's a few ways to deal with this and I think different distros do different things. I like the scripts that Debian has, and will probably even post them to the list for others to grab if they wish. If you want to get tricky and run your own DNS server, either to just cache DNS results or even provide names to other computers on ;your network, you can do so, though this is a bit of an exact science and is a whole new area to research. > This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I > try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they > are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because > I don't know where to look. OK. No it does make sense. The info pages are more a source of reference than anything else, which is why they can be cryptic. A good place to get some help is the howto documents at the linux documentation project at http://www.linuxdoc.org. They can also be a bit presumptuous about what you know, and they nearly always tell you how to do things without reference to any conveniences your distribution might have. So you might want to also do what you've already done, ask questions here. > Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not > as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know > what to look for. I'm guessing this is because you don't have permissions to access your serial port. Usually distributions have a good access structure built into them, so it's easiest to just go along with it. So look to see the permissions on your serial device. If your modem is on ttyS0 (com1) type: ls -l /dev/ttyS0 If your modem is on ttyS1 (com2) type: ls -l ttyS1 Note the capital S in both examples. I'll show you what mine looks like: crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 Jun 13 2001 /dev/ttyS0 Now, you'll see that both root and the dialout group have read and write permission on the serial port. so you want to put your user account in the dialout group. Edit /etc/group and look for the line with dialout. It'll look something like this: dialout:x:20: Now, add your account to the group by putting it at the end of the line (no spaces). So mine would look like this: dialout:x:20:geoff If I wanted more than one user in a group, I'd add them to the end with a comma seperating the names like so: dialout:x:20:geoff,anna Once you've done this, save the file. Changes will not take effect until you log your user account in again, so if you're already logged in as the user account, logout and log back in again. If you ever want to see what groups you're in, type "groups". Note that PPP is a bit complex and it might take a few group additions to sort out all the permissions. But you don't want any old user to be able to fiddle with the PPP link, do you. > Can anyone sort through this and give me pointers. This is starting to > throw my life into chaos. I hope I've been of help. Since you're used to shell accounts, you're one step ahead of some. Let me know if I can be of any further help. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive ` Thomas Stivers ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Gene Collins 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Gene Collins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Thomas. Try adjusting the Wave Surround option in the alsa mixer. If you want to use the amixer command line, then do something like this: amixer set "Wave Surround" 100% on Then make sure your second speakers are plugged in to the jack next to the midi port. You will get all four speakers when you are playing audio, but not when you are playing cds, or recording from the line jack. Remember to include the double quotes in the above command line for amixer, and be sure to notice the case. For some silly reason, the folks writing the alsa drivers think device names should be case sensitive. Oh well, the state the mind gets stuck in sometimes! Hope this helps. Gene >All i could do with this control was mute and unmute it and that did not >make my second pair of speakers make a sound. In windows I can plug into >the jack nearest the midi port and get a second sterio output. I >tried the one farthest from the midi port as well with the same >results. It required that I set something for quadraphonic speakers in >the creative program that came with the card, but I've never gotten >this to work with >alsa. Perhapse the creative program loads something proprietary on to the >card or something, I will look into it more. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
[parent not found: <20021003214501.25465.42721.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca>]
* Re: big sigh and many questions. [not found] <20021003214501.25465.42721.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> @ ` Thomas Ward ` Bear in SFO 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Anna. It looks like these problems are simple, and easy to solve. I'll answer them one by one,and if you still have questions let me know. Question: "First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has?" Answer: Yes, you will need to run the mount command to first mount the device, and then you can cd into that device and use it as you would any other directory. You can mount devices by mounting /mnt/floppy for the floppy drive and /mnt/cdrom for the cdrom drive. So if you want to mount the cdrom you would type: mount /mnt/cdrom Now to read the top level directory you would do a: cd /mnt/cdrom which opens the top level directory of the cdrom. Then type: ls which will show you a list of all the directories on the cdrom. You can proceed to open each directory in kind or open files, etc... One last note is before removing the cdrom it must be unmounted. To acomplish this I usually type: cd which takes me back to my home directory. Then, I would type: umount /mnt/cdrom which unmounts the drive, and you can remove your disk. Question: "second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end." Answer: Well, telnet and ssh don't need any special configurations. You merely have to type: ssh domainname.com and then it will usually go where it is suppose to go. However, I suspect your problem is that Red Hat is not resolving addresses. > From your isp find out the ip address for there primary and secondary dns numbers, and place them in a file: /etc/resolv.conf After that Red hat should begin resolving these urls. You would add them like: servername 216.209.25.10 of course, replacing the number with the actual ip address. As for getting information on telnet or ssh you would type:\ man telnet man ssh Question: "This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because I don't know where to look. Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know what to look for." Answer: Anna, you may be surprised to know this all makes sense. I suffered the same trials with Linux, and was unsure where to look, where to go, or what to do. Fortunately, over time you will become skilled and will pass on the information that I am imparting to you. Your number one resource for help should be the Linux man pages. You can type man commandname and it will give you a manual on that command. Let us say the issue was mount. You would type: man mount and you could read that page using the spacebar to advance through the document, and q to quit. As for logging in as another user you first need to create yourself a new user name and password, and after that you can login as that user all the time. For demonstration I will assume you wanted the name anna as your username. So as root you would type: adduser anna Now, you have a user nnamed anna, but no password. So will we set a password for anna by typing: passwd anna and it will prompt you to enter a password. Now, you can type logout, and login as anna. >From now on when your Linux box starts you can give the name anna and your password, and login as a regular user. Hth. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` big sigh and many questions Thomas Ward @ ` Bear in SFO ` Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Bear in SFO @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thanks Thomas for doing this. Your answers to Anna's questions solved some of the problems I was encountering with my linux box (resolving IP when telnet) The question I have is this: how can I 'export' the man pages? It is kinda hard to read them with Speakup so I tried redirecting them into a file and then export the file. No, doesn't work - instead of getting the word, say 'NAME', I get 'NNNNAAAAMMMMEEEE'. I tried nroff and groff but neither of them worked. Any suggestion anyone? Thanks :) --David At 01:45 AM 10/4/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, Anna. It looks like these problems are simple, and easy to solve. I'll >answer them one by one,and if you still have questions let me know. > >Question: >"First, I did get a couple of tutorial, I think they are tutorial, Red Hat >CD's with my system, but I don't know how to access them. I have to do >something with mount don't I, but I do I know what I'm mounting, and how >do I know which device is designated as what, and once I get the CD >writer/reader mounted, how do I read the information it has?" > >Answer: >Yes, you will need to run the mount command to first mount the device, and >then you can cd into that device and use it as you would any other >directory. You can mount devices by mounting /mnt/floppy for the floppy >drive and /mnt/cdrom for the cdrom drive. So if you want to mount the cdrom >you would type: >mount /mnt/cdrom >Now to read the top level directory you would do a: >cd /mnt/cdrom >which opens the top level directory of the cdrom. Then type: >ls >which will show you a list of all the directories on the cdrom. You can >proceed to open each directory in kind or open files, etc... >One last note is before removing the cdrom it must be unmounted. To >acomplish this I usually type: >cd >which takes me back to my home directory. >Then, I would type: >umount /mnt/cdrom >which unmounts the drive, and you can remove your disk. > >Question: >"second, I'm still having modem problems. I can dial in with ppp okay, but >then I can't seem do telnet or ssh, and I don't know where their config >files are, or their how-to files. I means I've skimmed the info pages on >them but it's all jibberish to me. When I try ssh, I get something about >host name resolution failure, and telnet just can't find the host. Now, >from my non-ppp account on Drizzle, I often telnet to the catalog ofr the >Washington Talking Book and Braille Library, and that works fine, but when >I even tried doing that on my Linux machine, I couldn't. It couldn't find >it or something, but I'm wondering if it's actually a problem on my end." > >Answer: >Well, telnet and ssh don't need any special configurations. You merely have >to type: >ssh domainname.com >and then it will usually go where it is suppose to go. However, I suspect >your problem is that Red Hat is not resolving addresses. > From your isp find out the ip address for there primary and secondary dns >numbers, and place them in a file: >/etc/resolv.conf >After that Red hat should begin resolving these urls. >You would add them like: >servername 216.209.25.10 >of course, replacing the number with the actual ip address. >As for getting information on telnet or ssh you would type:\ >man telnet >man ssh > >Question: >"This doesn't make any sense does it. I can't do anything. Every time I >try I go backwards. I don't understand the the info pages because they >are so terminology ladend. I can't find help on the things I need because >I don't know where to look. Oh, and I can only access my moem as root, not >as anther user and I can find where to change that because I don't know >what to look for." > >Answer: >Anna, you may be surprised to know this all makes sense. I suffered the >same trials with Linux, and was unsure where to look, where to go, or what >to do. Fortunately, over time you will become skilled and will pass on the >information that I am imparting to you. >Your number one resource for help should be the Linux man pages. You can >type >man commandname >and it will give you a manual on that command. >Let us say the issue was mount. You would type: >man mount >and you could read that page using the spacebar to advance through the >document, and q to quit. >As for logging in as another user you first need to create yourself a new >user name and password, and after that you can login as that user all the >time. >For demonstration I will assume you wanted the name anna as your username. >So as root you would type: >adduser anna >Now, you have a user nnamed anna, but no password. So will we set a password >for anna by typing: >passwd anna >and it will prompt you to enter a password. >Now, you can type logout, and login as anna. > From now on when your Linux box starts you can give the name anna and your >password, and login as a regular user. > >Hth. > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: big sigh and many questions. ` Bear in SFO @ ` Jude DaShiell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Try this: man man |col -b|expand - >man.txt I used man in this example substitute your favorite topic. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
[parent not found: <20021012052621.12673.87582.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca>]
* Re: big sigh and many questions. [not found] <20021012052621.12673.87582.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> @ ` Thomas Ward 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Anna. Those are just examples. Delete those from the resolv.conf file and you will want to put in the correct information. One way to find the primary name server is to run a port scanner program such as nmap which should have been installed with your Red Hat system. An example of nmap would be: nmap -Sf cascadia.drizzle.com While scanning it should give you a nameserver address which you would write down and place in /etc/resolve.conf. Well, if you like I can scan drizzle.com for you, and create a resolv.conf which will give you an idea what to do, and it should work, because I can scan them from here. Hth. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~ UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive Thomas Stivers
` Terry D. Cudney
` Thomas Stivers
` Terry D. Cudney
` big sigh and many questions Anna Schneider
` Igor Gueths
` Bear in SFO
` Scott Howell
` Anna Schneider
` Adam Myrow
` Edward L. Barnes
` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
` Geoff Shang
` Kerry Hoath
` Geoff Shang
` multiple output jacks with alsa and sblive Gene Collins
[not found] <20021003214501.25465.42721.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
` big sigh and many questions Thomas Ward
` Bear in SFO
` Jude DaShiell
[not found] <20021012052621.12673.87582.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
` Thomas Ward
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox; as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).