fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Scott Howell]

Chuck,

Thanks, I don't know why I missed that in my readings, but it worked
perfectly and thanks so much.
I was really wanting to pull out my hair.
I really wanted to have Fetchmail come up at boot time and have my mail
waiting when I logged in instead of running it by hand and I figured it
would be useful to any users I happen to have on the box.

tnx

Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Hi Scott,
I run mine from within /etc/ppp/ip-up, and it is killed from
within /etc/ppp/ip-down when the connection is broken.

Chuck

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> Thanks, I don't know why I missed that in my readings, but it worked
> perfectly and thanks so much.
> I was really wanting to pull out my hair.
> I really wanted to have Fetchmail come up at boot time and have my mail
> waiting when I logged in instead of running it by hand and I figured it
> would be useful to any users I happen to have on the box.
>
> tnx
>
>
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Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Igor Gueths]

Hi all. Well in my case, fetchmailrc is nowhere to be found so gotta
create it manually. However I already have a checkmail script that can run
it at any time set in crontab. My question is does fetchmail have to be in
daemon mode in order to automatically transmit the password? I put in auth
password xxxxx where xxxx is my password. I've been wanting to set up a
cron job that would automatically poll my mailserver using my script but
couldn't figure out how to automatically log in. Thx!

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On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> Thanks, I don't know why I missed that in my readings, but it worked
> perfectly and thanks so much.
> I was really wanting to pull out my hair.
> I really wanted to have Fetchmail come up at boot time and have my mail
> waiting when I logged in instead of running it by hand and I figured it
> would be useful to any users I happen to have on the box.
>
> tnx
>
>
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Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Scott Howell]

You could very well put the password in there, but I imagine the big
problem here is no ability to force your isp to use some form of security
for passwords unless they use apop or pop3 with ssl. Should be an option
in any case.

I wonder better yet if you have an account on box X for example, your
user account has the user name of user name and the account password is
fubar, then I wonder if there would be a means to use itsfubared as a
mail password instead. The purpose of this would be that is you only had
pop3 which would transmit your password in cleartext, then using an
alternate password would at least provide you a means to protect your
account, but yet still retrieve your mail from where.
I imagine if you had a spare box and dedicated it to mail it would be all
good, but well that might be the case. Any thoughts folks?


On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 05:41:17PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi all. Well in my case, fetchmailrc is nowhere to be found so gotta
> create it manually. However I already have a checkmail script that can run

Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Igor Gueths]

Hi. I don't think my isp supports ssl I happen to have At&t broadband over
here. I never tried fetchmail in daemon mode maybe its time to play around
with that. So what you basically mean is have the real password be
encrypted if pop3 with ssl was supported, and then have itsfubared as the
passwd to unlock the ssl key?

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On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> You could very well put the password in there, but I imagine the big
> problem here is no ability to force your isp to use some form of security
> for passwords unless they use apop or pop3 with ssl. Should be an option
> in any case.
>
> I wonder better yet if you have an account on box X for example, your
> user account has the user name of user name and the account password is
> fubar, then I wonder if there would be a means to use itsfubared as a
> mail password instead. The purpose of this would be that is you only had
> pop3 which would transmit your password in cleartext, then using an
> alternate password would at least provide you a means to protect your
> account, but yet still retrieve your mail from where.
> I imagine if you had a spare box and dedicated it to mail it would be all
> good, but well that might be the case. Any thoughts folks?
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 05:41:17PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > Hi all. Well in my case, fetchmailrc is nowhere to be found so gotta
> > create it manually. However I already have a checkmail script that can run
>
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Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Scott Howell]

That might be the case, but that all depends on what your ISP supports. I
honestly am getting out of my field here so will not steer you wrong. I
hope someone wih greater knowledge than I can answer your question. In
either case if you only log in to your isp for mail and its a different
password then gaining access to the connection, it might be ok to use
plain old pop3, but me I'm paranoid.<grin> I have such a setup with my
isp and can even get mail forwarded to my domain by them if necessary,
but I realize this might not work for everyone.
I know we have some experts on here who can figure out the best route.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 10:19:29PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi. I don't think my isp supports ssl I happen to have At&t broadband over
> here. I never tried fetchmail in daemon mode maybe its time to play around
> with that. So what you basically mean is have the real password be
> encrypted if pop3 with ssl was supported, and then have itsfubared as the
> passwd to unlock the ssl key?
> 

Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  It's a bad idea to use the same password for your mail account with
your isp and your local login.  My local login to my box is "kennyhitt"
just like my mail account with knology.  The passwords have nothing in
common so if someone gets my mail password they won't have a clue in
guessing my password for my Linux box.  Since my global fetchmailrc for
my box is not readable by any normal user, you will have to be root to
even know its there.  Of course the password for the mail account is
sent in plain text, it will be possible for someone watching my traffic
to get it.  Also the fetchmail daenon runs as user fetchmail so breaking
fetchmail will only get you my mail password and nothing else.

          Kenny

On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 09:48:56PM -0400, Scott Howell wrote:
> You could very well put the password in there, but I imagine the big
> problem here is no ability to force your isp to use some form of security
> for passwords unless they use apop or pop3 with ssl. Should be an option
> in any case.
> 
> I wonder better yet if you have an account on box X for example, your
> user account has the user name of user name and the account password is
> fubar, then I wonder if there would be a means to use itsfubared as a
> mail password instead. The purpose of this would be that is you only had
> pop3 which would transmit your password in cleartext, then using an
> alternate password would at least provide you a means to protect your
> account, but yet still retrieve your mail from where.
> I imagine if you had a spare box and dedicated it to mail it would be all
> good, but well that might be the case. Any thoughts folks?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 05:41:17PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > Hi all. Well in my case, fetchmailrc is nowhere to be found so gotta
> > create it manually. However I already have a checkmail script that can run
> 
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Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Scott Howell]

Right, but what I was saying is there must be some method by which you
could have a separate password to retrieve mail from the box you have an
account on from outside your own network. Of course this is if you happen
to have a mail program that doesn't support encryption.
Of course your ISP and your local account should have very different
passwords.

wget ssl support

[Patrick Turnage]

Hi
I'm attempting to use https with wget, and am running in totrouble.
I am getting the error unsupported scheme, and I have my .wgetrc file in my
home directory setup like this
http-user=user@host.net
http-password=mypassword
then I am doing
wget -m https://www.somesiteonline.com/directory/
and I get unsupported scheme.. 
thanks
Patrick



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Re: wget ssl support

[Geoff Shang]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Patrick Turnage wrote:

> I'm attempting to use https with wget, and am running in totrouble.
> I am getting the error unsupported scheme, ...

This suggests that it doesn't have support for SSL enabled.  I would guess
that it's possible to enable this, but don't ask me how as I've never done
it.  But it's something I intend to do at some stage.

Geoff.

Re: wget ssl support

[Jude DaShiell]

First of all the ssl files need to be on disk in the expected place.  In
the build process for lynx, there's a configure step.  That's the first
building step.  one of the command line options for ./configure needs to
be --with-ssl.  You may need or want to use more options than that too.
./configure --help should provide an available list.

Re: wget ssl support

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

At the risk of being told, "Why be helpful when you're not?", I seem
to remember that lftp and lynx-ssl use libraries that I believe are
labeled something like ssl.  But I don't know the ins and outs of it.
I just used a debian package.  But you might look to see what
libraries are used for SSL support and if you have them.

Ann P.

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Re: wget ssl support

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Lynx requires libssl from the openssl packages in order to do ssl.  But to
clarify, the original poster was asking about using ssl with wget.
Certainly, there doesn't seem to be a wget-ssl debian package which
suggests that it can't do it (well not in woody anyway)...but I don't know
for sure.

Geoff.


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Re: wget ssl support

[Igor Gueths]

Hi. The libraries that lynx uses for ssl are in /usr/local/ssl. I believe
that wget could link against these, however don't quote me on that one.
Never tried it, I think it would be an interesting experiment.

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> At the risk of being told, "Why be helpful when you're not?", I seem
> to remember that lftp and lynx-ssl use libraries that I believe are
> labeled something like ssl.  But I don't know the ins and outs of it.
> I just used a debian package.  But you might look to see what
> libraries are used for SSL support and if you have them.
>
> Ann P.
>
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Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Geoff Shang]

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> Right, but what I was saying is there must be some method by which you
> could have a separate password to retrieve mail from the box you have an
> account on from outside your own network. Of course this is if you happen
> to have a mail program that doesn't support encryption.

This might well be possible and I've also read about funky things like
tunneling fetchmail through ssh.  But the normal state of affairs is that
both passwords are the same.  This is why the fetchmail docs caution
against retrieving mail across an open network.

Geoff.

Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Scott Howell]

Geoff,

I guess this is why webmail setups with ssl are available. However, using
the "etrn" ability of fetchmail might in the end be a solution to the
problem. This is assuming your fortunate to be using a Linux/Unix box
where you can do such things. Well I think finding a simple distro for
cdrom with a boot floppy is in order.<grin>

Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Steve Holmes]

I just put the password inside the fetchmailrc file like what was
shown in other messages on the list.  I never used it daemon mode or
anything, I just had cron run fetchmail every fifteen minutes or so.

On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 05:41:17PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi all. Well in my case, fetchmailrc is nowhere to be found so gotta
> create it manually. However I already have a checkmail script that can run
> it at any time set in crontab. My question is does fetchmail have to be in
> daemon mode in order to automatically transmit the password? I put in auth
> password xxxxx where xxxx is my password. I've been wanting to set up a
> cron job that would automatically poll my mailserver using my script but
> couldn't figure out how to automatically log in. Thx!
> 
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> 
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Thanks, I don't know why I missed that in my readings, but it worked
> > perfectly and thanks so much.
> > I was really wanting to pull out my hair.
> > I really wanted to have Fetchmail come up at boot time and have my mail
> > waiting when I logged in instead of running it by hand and I figured it
> > would be useful to any users I happen to have on the box.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: fetchmail devlivery success tnx Chuck

[Geoff Shang]

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I just put the password inside the fetchmailrc file like what was
> shown in other messages on the list.  I never used it daemon mode or
> anything, I just had cron run fetchmail every fifteen minutes or so.

You could achieve the same thing by putting

set daemon 900

in your .fetchmailrc file.  Then you only need run it once and it'll keep
running.

Geoff.