Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Janina Sajka]

Hey, Kirk:

This should be a simple fix. I would really like to hear my synth speaking 
English correctly. Is it litetalk? Or is it speakup that's saying febuary?

The word has two 'r's which should be pronounced, of course.


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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Kirk Reiser]

It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
nuclear.

  Kirk

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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Janina Sajka]

Hmmm, nuclear is OK on ROM rev 4.77. Guess I better drop Randy a note. 

On 3 Feb 2002, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> nuclear.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> 

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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[TALMAGE]

See what it does with Roxio
Mine comes across as rogue show
Have you thought about, or maybe even done a exception dictionary or
lexicon file for Speakup?
Just a thought, and if it's there forgive my newbie status.

Dave

At 03:19 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
>It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
>doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
>nuclear.
>
>  Kirk
>

Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Thomas Ward]

It is things like this that really makes me think we desperately need a
exception dictionary. I know I do.
While we are talking about fixes has anyone figured out how to make z sound
right? Z sounds like zed, and it drives me nuts.
It only happens in Speakup, and I assume it is some sort of bug or
something. If someone can tell me how to fix this problem I'd be really
happy.


----- Original Message -----
From: <TALMAGE@SOMTEL.COM>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?


> See what it does with Roxio
> Mine comes across as rogue show
> Have you thought about, or maybe even done a exception dictionary or
> lexicon file for Speakup?
> Just a thought, and if it's there forgive my newbie status.
>
> Dave
>
> At 03:19 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> >doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> >nuclear.
> >
> >  Kirk
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Thomas -

English speaking around the world all refer to the last letter of
the alphabet as 'zed'. Only in the USA is it called 'z'. You can
probably fix it pretty easily if you want, although I am not the
one to tell you how.

Chuck

On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:

> It is things like this that really makes me think we desperately need a
> exception dictionary. I know I do.
> While we are talking about fixes has anyone figured out how to make z sound
> right? Z sounds like zed, and it drives me nuts.
> It only happens in Speakup, and I assume it is some sort of bug or
> something. If someone can tell me how to fix this problem I'd be really
> happy.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TALMAGE@SOMTEL.COM>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?
>
>
> > See what it does with Roxio
> > Mine comes across as rogue show
> > Have you thought about, or maybe even done a exception dictionary or
> > lexicon file for Speakup?
> > Just a thought, and if it's there forgive my newbie status.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 03:19 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > >It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> > >doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> > >nuclear.
> > >
> > >  Kirk
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Gregory Nowak]

No, the z as zed issue is not a bug. As far as I know, people in the US are the only ones that pernounce z as z and not as zed which is how the rest of the English speaking world pernounces it.
Greg


On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:17:47PM -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:
> It is things like this that really makes me think we desperately need a
> exception dictionary. I know I do.
> While we are talking about fixes has anyone figured out how to make z sound
> right? Z sounds like zed, and it drives me nuts.
> It only happens in Speakup, and I assume it is some sort of bug or
> something. If someone can tell me how to fix this problem I'd be really
> happy.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TALMAGE@SOMTEL.COM>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?
> 
> 
> > See what it does with Roxio
> > Mine comes across as rogue show
> > Have you thought about, or maybe even done a exception dictionary or
> > lexicon file for Speakup?
> > Just a thought, and if it's there forgive my newbie status.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 03:19 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > >It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> > >doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> > >nuclear.
> > >
> > >  Kirk
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Buddy Brannan]

The 26th letter of the alphabet is, indeed, (in a good potion of the
English-speaking world) zed. Not a bug...it's a feature, and you can
change it if you like. I personally like that the 26th letter of the
alphabet doesn't sound like b, v, d, g, p, and t. 
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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Shaun Oliver]

looks like the doubletalk has the same issue.
but I ain't gonna complain about it.
speakup and my doubletalk do everything I ever want it to for now.On 3
Feb 2002, Kirk Reiser
wrote:

> It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> nuclear.
>
>   Kirk
>
>

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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Kerry Hoath]

In Canada and Australia and england we say "zed"
so speakup says zed. you have the source.
If you don't like the letter pronounciations go patch them and
recompile your kernel. 10 seconds work patching one array.
Regarding exception dictionaries, you have to pass every word through a function to check it against
the words in the dictionary and that eats up time and kernel memory.
Now the doubletalk has the ability to load a set of exceptions into the ram,
and I guess speakup could handle this; but I wonder how much
system overhead it would take to handle the dictionaries and would they have to be sorted and
indexable for reasonable performance? How do you propose to handle
the allocation of memory in the running kernel for a dictionary and how would we add one in? something in /proc?
Personally I think monitor windows; cursor tracking options and hte like are higher priority... but I know how it annoys when the synth
won't pronounce your name properly etc.

Regards, Kerry.
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:17:47PM -0500, Thomas Ward wrote:
> It is things like this that really makes me think we desperately need a
> exception dictionary. I know I do.
> While we are talking about fixes has anyone figured out how to make z sound
> right? Z sounds like zed, and it drives me nuts.
> It only happens in Speakup, and I assume it is some sort of bug or
> something. If someone can tell me how to fix this problem I'd be really
> happy.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TALMAGE@SOMTEL.COM>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?
> 
> 
> > See what it does with Roxio
> > Mine comes across as rogue show
> > Have you thought about, or maybe even done a exception dictionary or
> > lexicon file for Speakup?
> > Just a thought, and if it's there forgive my newbie status.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 03:19 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > >It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> > >doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> > >nuclear.
> > >
> > >  Kirk
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

You could easily edit the characters file.  What I do is keep a copy of
my modified speakup parameters in /etc/speakup.  copy characters from
/proc/speakup and open the /etc/speakup/characters file.  Find the entry
for zed and change it to what ever you wish.  As stated on here already
it may be preferable to keep it at zed which I do, but you are open to
do what you feel is best.  One thing I do is change shift-3 to read as
pound instead of number.  Once you change what ever you want just copy
the newly created characters file back  into /proc/speakup and you are
done.


Thomas Ward said the following on Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:17:47PM -0500:
> It is things like this that really makes me think we desperately need a
> exception dictionary. I know I do.
> While we are talking about fixes has anyone figured out how to make z sound
> right? Z sounds like zed, and it drives me nuts.
> It only happens in Speakup, and I assume it is some sort of bug or
> something. If someone can tell me how to fix this problem I'd be really
> happy.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TALMAGE@SOMTEL.COM>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Can speakup pronounce February correctly?
> 
> 
> > See what it does with Roxio
> > Mine comes across as rogue show
> > Have you thought about, or maybe even done a exception dictionary or
> > lexicon file for Speakup?
> > Just a thought, and if it's there forgive my newbie status.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 03:19 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > >It's your LiteTalk.  Has nothing to do with speakup.  Maybe Randy
> > >doesn't know how to pronounce it.  Check to see how it pronounces
> > >nuclear.
> > >
> > >  Kirk
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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