Pine and filters

Pine and filters

[Dan Murphy]

Is it possible to set up filters within the pine program
to move incoming mail to other folders for later reading?  If not, is
there a quick-and-dirty way to do it with procmail?  I tried reading the
manpages for procmail and became totally confused.  I've wondered about
this for a while, but now that I'm running both my mail accounts on my
Linux box and expect to be doing so for some time, I need to start
learning how to manipulate some of my mail traffic.
thanks.

Re: Pine and filters

[Amanda Lee]

Yup I do it all the time.

Just do the following:

First define a nicname;

Next decide if it is a filter you want for: From: to: Reply to: or Subject
and believe newer versions of pine allow you to say for Any instance or
something like that.

Next, I use w/where to lcate the two instances of move and I make sure it
has an asterisk by "move if not deleted" and Move to folder.

You then tell it the folder name you want and that is the last entry in
the available  options.  There are a lot of other items that you can
choose depending on what you need to do.

I have a separate speakup folder on shellworld by the filter nickname of
 speakup and the to: line looks for speakup and I move to the speakup
folder and move if not deleted.  Pretty simple.

Amanda


On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:

> Is it possible to set up filters within the pine program
> to move incoming mail to other folders for later reading?  If not, is
> there a quick-and-dirty way to do it with procmail?  I tried reading the
> manpages for procmail and became totally confused.  I've wondered about
> this for a while, but now that I'm running both my mail accounts on my
> Linux box and expect to be doing so for some time, I need to start
> learning how to manipulate some of my mail traffic.
> thanks.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Pine and filters

[Dan Murphy]

Hi.
Well I think I need more of a detailed explanation.  First, what do I need
to enable in setup, and where in pine do I need to define a nick name.  I
have no problem creating a folder, but I'm not up on all the advanced
features, so I'm confused about what you aree telling me.


On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Amanda Lee wrote:

> Yup I do it all the time.
>
> Just do the following:
>
> First define a nicname;
>
> Next decide if it is a filter you want for: From: to: Reply to: or Subject
> and believe newer versions of pine allow you to say for Any instance or
> something like that.
>
> Next, I use w/where to lcate the two instances of move and I make sure it
> has an asterisk by "move if not deleted" and Move to folder.
>
> You then tell it the folder name you want and that is the last entry in
> the available  options.  There are a lot of other items that you can
> choose depending on what you need to do.
>
> I have a separate speakup folder on shellworld by the filter nickname of
>  speakup and the to: line looks for speakup and I move to the speakup
> folder and move if not deleted.  Pretty simple.
>
> Amanda
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to set up filters within the pine program
> > to move incoming mail to other folders for later reading?  If not, is
> > there a quick-and-dirty way to do it with procmail?  I tried reading the
> > manpages for procmail and became totally confused.  I've wondered about
> > this for a while, but now that I'm running both my mail accounts on my
> > Linux box and expect to be doing so for some time, I need to start
> > learning how to manipulate some of my mail traffic.
> > thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Pine and filters

[Amanda Lee]

Okay I'm going to attempt this from memory cuz uh i'm currently in
WindBlows/ME!


First:

press m to go to Main Menu;

next:

press r for rules;

next:

press f for filters;

next:

press a to add a filter;

next:

you'll see a page which you can scroll up and down via the arrows;

the first item is the nicname or name that you want to call this rule/filter
so you press <enter> and then ctrl-k to blankout the field.
Enter the name that you desire such as speakup.
press the <enter> key.

next:

arrow down or press w for where to find the from: to: reply to: or subject:
fields and use the same method as described above to enter the selection
criteria desired.
Press <enter>

Next:

use the w or where key to find the word "move"

This one should be the "Move to folder" option which is usually already
marked with an asterisk/Star/ "*".

just below this item is the field where you enter the desired folder that
you want which could be "speakup" without the quotes.

next:

press the w or where key to fine "move" and press <enter> to check this item
which says "move if not deleted" you may not care about this but I do.

next:

press e to exit and y to save changes and it may prompt to create the folder
that you designated.

press y to create the folder.

press e again and if there are messages which match the criteria you
selected for from: to: reply to: or Subject, etc., you will hear a message
which says

### messages moved to speakup folder or whatever folder you are working
with.

When new messages arrive you will hear a message which tells you that ###
messages are being moved to which folder is applicable.

Hope this helps.   As I said, there are quite a number of selection criteria
in the options available for setting up a filter.  I don't really fully
understand all of them nor do I generally use more than what I have already
described as a simple way to setup a rule/filter.

Amanda Lee
Alexandria, VA


 is where the
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Murphy" <mweeby@nycap.rr.com>
To: "Speakup list" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Pine and filters


> Hi.
> Well I think I need more of a detailed explanation.  First, what do I need
> to enable in setup, and where in pine do I need to define a nick name.  I
> have no problem creating a folder, but I'm not up on all the advanced
> features, so I'm confused about what you aree telling me.
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Amanda Lee wrote:
>
> > Yup I do it all the time.
> >
> > Just do the following:
> >
> > First define a nicname;
> >
> > Next decide if it is a filter you want for: From: to: Reply to: or
Subject
> > and believe newer versions of pine allow you to say for Any instance or
> > something like that.
> >
> > Next, I use w/where to lcate the two instances of move and I make sure
it
> > has an asterisk by "move if not deleted" and Move to folder.
> >
> > You then tell it the folder name you want and that is the last entry in
> > the available  options.  There are a lot of other items that you can
> > choose depending on what you need to do.
> >
> > I have a separate speakup folder on shellworld by the filter nickname of
> >  speakup and the to: line looks for speakup and I move to the speakup
> > folder and move if not deleted.  Pretty simple.
> >
> > Amanda
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > Is it possible to set up filters within the pine program
> > > to move incoming mail to other folders for later reading?  If not, is
> > > there a quick-and-dirty way to do it with procmail?  I tried reading
the
> > > manpages for procmail and became totally confused.  I've wondered
about
> > > this for a while, but now that I'm running both my mail accounts on my
> > > Linux box and expect to be doing so for some time, I need to start
> > > learning how to manipulate some of my mail traffic.
> > > thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

New Pine release

[Charles Crawford]

	In case you did not see this.


Subject: Pine 4.44 now available

This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
version 4.44. The purpose of this release is to fix a security
bug with the treatment of quotes in the URL-handling code. The bug
allows a malicious sender to embed commands in a URL. This bug is
present in all versions of UNIX Pine. There is no vulnerability from
this bug in PC-Pine.

The release notes are available from within Pine ("R" command off the
Main Menu) and via

         http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html
and
         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/

Source for the latest Pine release is available in:

         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
and
         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz

Precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
are available in:

         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
and
         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed

The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:

         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm444w32.zip

As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
before placing Pine into production use.

The Pine Development Team

-- 

Re: New Pine release

[Amanda Lee]

Yup, we have it here on Shellworld.  Ken Scott  keeps things up-to-date.

Amanda Lee

Re: New Pine release

[Janina Sajka]

Yes, but I'm waiting for Bill's rpm of it. Compiling pine from source is 
not trivial.

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Charles Crawford wrote:

> 	In case you did not see this.
> 
> 
> Subject: Pine 4.44 now available
> 
> This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> version 4.44. The purpose of this release is to fix a security
> bug with the treatment of quotes in the URL-handling code. The bug
> allows a malicious sender to embed commands in a URL. This bug is
> present in all versions of UNIX Pine. There is no vulnerability from
> this bug in PC-Pine.
> 
> The release notes are available from within Pine ("R" command off the
> Main Menu) and via
> 
>          http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html
> and
>          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/
> 
> Source for the latest Pine release is available in:
> 
>          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
> and
>          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
> 
> Precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
> are available in:
> 
>          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
> and
>          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed
> 
> The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:
> 
>          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm444w32.zip
> 
> As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
> determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
> before placing Pine into production use.
> 
> The Pine Development Team
> 
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: New Pine release

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Me too; I am waiting for a precompiled Slackware version.


On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Yes, but I'm waiting for Bill's rpm of it. Compiling pine from source is
> not trivial.
>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Charles Crawford wrote:
>
> > 	In case you did not see this.
> >
> >
> > Subject: Pine 4.44 now available
> >
> > This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System
> > version 4.44. The purpose of this release is to fix a security
> > bug with the treatment of quotes in the URL-handling code. The bug
> > allows a malicious sender to embed commands in a URL. This bug is
> > present in all versions of UNIX Pine. There is no vulnerability from
> > this bug in PC-Pine.
> >
> > The release notes are available from within Pine ("R" command off the
> > Main Menu) and via
> >
> >          http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html
> > and
> >          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/
> >
> > Source for the latest Pine release is available in:
> >
> >          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
> > and
> >          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz
> >
> > Precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to
> > are available in:
> >
> >          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin
> > and
> >          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed
> >
> > The corresponding PC-Pine distribution is available in:
> >
> >          ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm444w32.zip
> >
> > As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and
> > determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment
> > before placing Pine into production use.
> >
> > The Pine Development Team
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: New Pine release

[Dan Murphy]

I downloaded it and used the "build"script that came with it and it
seems to work quite ok.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Me too; I am waiting for a precompiled Slackware version.

Re: New Pine release

[Charles Hallenbeck]

DEan,

Did you compile it with or without ssl support? and which target
did you use?
Chuck


On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:

> I downloaded it and used the "build"script that came with it and it
> seems to work quite ok.
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
>
> > Me too; I am waiting for a precompiled Slackware version.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: New Pine release

[Dan Murphy]

I compiled it with the slx target and didn't worry about the SSL
support.


Dan Murphy
mailto:mweeby@nycap.rr.com
http://home.nycap.rr.com/mweeby

Re: New Pine release

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

I've generally just sucked down the precompiled linux binaries and used
those.

Geoff.

Re: Pine and filters

[Dan Murphy]

Hi Amanda.
I'm quite pleased.  thanks much.  You see, I have this other account where
I am on
numerous other lists, and having *everything* just spilled into your inbox
can be a pain.  I got spoiled under Winblows with OE, and I always wanted
to be able to do something like this in Pine.
thanks again.

Re: Pine and filters

[Amanda Lee]

Yup this works very well for me and although the prior lister made some
good suggestions, I find that not that much detail is really required.
YOu basically need to know if it is a From:, to: reply to: Subject and in
newer versions of pine I believe you can even select "any".

I have folders setup for many lists hat I subscribe to and for other email
which are notifications, etc for various items.

Amanda Lee



On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Dan Murphy wrote:

> Hi Amanda.
> I'm quite pleased.  thanks much.  You see, I have this other account where
> I am on
> numerous other lists, and having *everything* just spilled into your inbox
> can be a pain.  I got spoiled under Winblows with OE, and I always wanted
> to be able to do something like this in Pine.
> thanks again.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Pine and filters

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

To add to Amanda's comments.  To begin with, it's Setup>Rules>Filters.

Using the "To" field as a filter is not a particularly good idea, as it
won't catch Cc's.  The best thing to use if you can is Sender, or you can
use Reply-to or something else in the all-ttext portion of the rule.  The
idea is to use something that the mailing list software inserts into the
message that would not be there for other messages, including messages on
other lists that are also sent to speakup, for example.

Here's my rule for the speakup list:

Nickname: speakup
Folder type: specific
Folder name: inbox
Sender pattern: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
Filter action: move
Destination folder: incoming/speakup

The rest are as per defaults.

Note that before you do this, you might want to set up incoming folders if
you want to be able to tab to these as incoming folders.  Go into the
setup>configuration screen and activate the enable incoming folders option.
Then when you do the filtering rule, pine will ask you if you want to add
the filter folder, which it will presumably have to create for you, to your
incoming folders collection.  This makes life much easier as you then don't
have to do it yourself.

A couple of bugs as of pine 4.43 (there may be newer versions out now):

1.  When messages are filtered from inbox, they aren't actually removed
from your inbox until it is rewritten through an expunge or something.
This means that if you have to shutdown without exiting pine normally, the
messages to be filtered will get filtered again.  I must write to the pine
folks about this - it's been there for awhile now.

2.  As of pine 4.41, the tabbing to incoming folders to read new messages
doesn't seem to be working.  This is a great source of annoyance in our
house.

Geoff.