* HTML Question -- Binary Downloads
@ Janina Sajka
` David Poehlman
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup, ma-linux
Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be
treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a binary
file to be downloaded and saved?
I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with
hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both http://
and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are
grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen that
says "Download or Cancel."
Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? I'm
stumped.
All help most gratefully appreciated.
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp
Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads HTML Question -- Binary Downloads Janina Sajka @ ` David Poehlman ` Janina Sajka ` Gregory Nowak ` John Covici 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi there janina! I might be able to help, but first, have you found any pages that proffer this with the the extention you are trying to code for? It seems that your lynx is seeing .iso as some sort of readable text. This may be changeable on your end but I wouldn't begin to know how to do it. I know for instance, with ie, .pdf, .txt, .doc and many others act this way unless you jump through hoops to prevent it. The most relyable way I have found to provide file transferrability is to make zip or exe the extention even if it is not really the extention and depending on how the server is configured, you may have to use ftp:// in the hreff. I hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <ma-linux@tux.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a binary file to be downloaded and saved? I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both http:// and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen that says "Download or Cancel." Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? I'm stumped. All help most gratefully appreciated. -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads ` David Poehlman @ ` Janina Sajka ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, David: Thanks for your thoughts--and Happy New Year to you. I have the following response to my question from the ma-linux list which sounds correct to me, and have already forwarded my request on to Kirk: >From jamesjuran@alumni.psu.edu Tue Jan 1 12:26:57 2002 From: James Juran <jamesjuran@alumni.psu.edu> You need to make sure the server generates the proper Content-type HTTP header. You need to make sure this gets set correctly by Apache to something like application/octet-stream. It's then up to the browser to decide what to do with files of type application/octet-stream. The default configuration in most browsers will give you the standard Download/Save/Cancel options. For information on setting this up in Apache, see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_mime.html . -- James Juran jamesjuran@alumni.psu.edu On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > Hi there janina! > I might be able to help, but first, have you found any pages that > proffer this with the the extention you are trying to code for? It > seems that your lynx is seeing .iso as some sort of readable text. This > may be changeable on your end but I wouldn't begin to know how to do it. > I know for instance, with ie, .pdf, .txt, .doc and many others act this > way unless you jump through hoops to prevent it. The most relyable way > I have found to provide file transferrability is to make zip or exe the > extention even if it is not really the extention and depending on how > the server is configured, you may have to use ftp:// in the hreff. > > I hope this helps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <ma-linux@tux.org> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 11:42 AM > Subject: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads > > > Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be > treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a > binary > file to be downloaded and saved? > > I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with > hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both > http:// > and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are > grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen > that > says "Download or Cancel." > > Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? > I'm > stumped. > > > All help most gratefully appreciated. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads ` Janina Sajka @ ` David Poehlman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup aha, I'd forgotten about that little trick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads Hi, David: Thanks for your thoughts--and Happy New Year to you. I have the following response to my question from the ma-linux list which sounds correct to me, and have already forwarded my request on to Kirk: >From jamesjuran@alumni.psu.edu Tue Jan 1 12:26:57 2002 From: James Juran <jamesjuran@alumni.psu.edu> You need to make sure the server generates the proper Content-type HTTP header. You need to make sure this gets set correctly by Apache to something like application/octet-stream. It's then up to the browser to decide what to do with files of type application/octet-stream. The default configuration in most browsers will give you the standard Download/Save/Cancel options. For information on setting this up in Apache, see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_mime.html . -- James Juran jamesjuran@alumni.psu.edu On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > Hi there janina! > I might be able to help, but first, have you found any pages that > proffer this with the the extention you are trying to code for? It > seems that your lynx is seeing .iso as some sort of readable text. This > may be changeable on your end but I wouldn't begin to know how to do it. > I know for instance, with ie, .pdf, .txt, .doc and many others act this > way unless you jump through hoops to prevent it. The most relyable way > I have found to provide file transferrability is to make zip or exe the > extention even if it is not really the extention and depending on how > the server is configured, you may have to use ftp:// in the hreff. > > I hope this helps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>; <ma-linux@tux.org> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 11:42 AM > Subject: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads > > > Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be > treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a > binary > file to be downloaded and saved? > > I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with > hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both > http:// > and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are > grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen > that > says "Download or Cancel." > > Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? > I'm > stumped. > > > All help most gratefully appreciated. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads HTML Question -- Binary Downloads Janina Sajka ` David Poehlman @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Geoff Shang ` John Covici 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I've always thought it was the file extention like iso, zip, gz, exe, com and so on. But, I guess not. Greg On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 11:42:51AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be > treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a binary > file to be downloaded and saved? > > I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with > hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both http:// > and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are > grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen that > says "Download or Cancel." > > Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? I'm > stumped. > > > All help most gratefully appreciated. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Geoff Shang 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Geoff Shang @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > I've always thought it was the file extention like iso, zip, gz, exe, com > and so on. But, I guess not. Windows would have you believe that it's all done on file extentions, but yes, mime type is the key here. I was going to suggest application/octet-stream but I've not had a chance to read this list till now. Geoff. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads HTML Question -- Binary Downloads Janina Sajka ` David Poehlman ` Gregory Nowak @ ` John Covici ` Janina Sajka 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: John Covici @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup As far as I know, if you hit d on the link it will download -- otherwise its determined by a combination of your mailcap file and the /etc/mime.types and /etc/mime.magic files. If it thinks its text/plain it will try to display it -- sometimes with weird results. on Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:42:51 -0500 (EST) Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> wrote: > Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be > treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a binary > file to be downloaded and saved? > > I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with > hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both http:// > and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are > grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen that > says "Download or Cancel." > > Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? I'm > stumped. > > > All help most gratefully appreciated. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > Learn how to make accessible software at > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: HTML Question -- Binary Downloads ` John Covici @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup; +Cc: speakup John: Yes, I know this, but this is for a public page, and I don't want to require users to have to know this. Especially, since there's no need for this to happen. On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, John Covici wrote: > As far as I know, if you hit d on the link it will download -- > otherwise its determined by a combination of your mailcap file and the > /etc/mime.types and /etc/mime.magic files. If it thinks its > text/plain it will try to display it -- sometimes with weird results. > > on Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:42:51 -0500 (EST) Janina Sajka <janina@afb.net> wrote: > > > Can someone tell me what determines whether a hyperlinked file will be > > treated as a text page to be retrieved and rendered as opposed to a binary > > file to be downloaded and saved? > > > > I'm writing a HOWTO and want to point to downloadable image files with > > hyperlinks, but my links aren't working correctly. I've tried both http:// > > and ftp:// addressing, but always get the same result--my iso images are > > grabbed as though they were text. What I'm wanting is the lynx screen that > > says "Download or Cancel." > > > > Is this a permissions issue? A server-side Apache configuration issue? I'm > > stumped. > > > > > > All help most gratefully appreciated. > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > Learn how to make accessible software at > > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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