serial port output

serial port output

[Michael]

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Hello all: 

I'm going to change sides for a moment and use what may be identified as bad language. <grin> 

I herd that it was possible, to output the install screens of a 9-x, NT-x platform to a serial port, to have it spoken by an external synthesizer.  One of the major stumbling blocks I'm faced with is total control of building a 9-X or NT-X machine from the ground up.  I have to rely on a sited individual to read the installation screens up until the point where my screen reader can be installed.  
My current screen reader requires that IE 5.0, sound driver of course, and video driver be installed before it can become operational.  
Can anybody shed some light on this matter? 
I think one of the clear benefits of a Speakup adapted Linux machine is the ability for the blind user to hear the installation processes, along with the added security and the total independent control over 
his or her computing environment.  

Chow:  
Michael 

P S 
Anyone dabble in amateur radio? 
 
  
  
  
  
 
  


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Re: serial port output

[Buddy Brannan]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> Anyone dabble in amateur radio? 

Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
(Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)

BTW, I completely agree with you on Speakup's ability to give us
independent control over our OS installation and system config. You're
finding out, no doubt, that there's a fairly steep learning curve
here--two years later, I still have more to learn than I can even get
my head around--but it's definitely worth the trouble!
-- 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes

Re: serial port output

[Tommy Moore]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
>
> Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
Heh, you forgot me too! Heh I'm the dude who had the Nasa sounding mic on
the reflector a while back.
Hehe.

Tommy

Re: serial port output

[Buddy Brannan]

Sorry Tommy! After I saw your note about the Windows install script, I
remembered I'd forgotten you! *LOL*
-- 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes

Re: serial port output

[governor]

Hey guys. I joined the list a few days ago. I'm a ham too. kf4yfa here.At 
17:01 10/4/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Sorry Tommy! After I saw your note about the Windows install script, I
>remembered I'd forgotten you! *LOL*
>--
>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
>Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
>Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
>ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
>
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>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: serial port output

[Buddy Brannan]

Thomas Stivers is a ham, too. ... Knew him in Austin when he first got
licensed...as KC5YIK (that's "yik"...LOL)
-- 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes

Re: serial port output

[Thomas Stivers]

Yeah, that's me. KC5(young idiot kid) as so many hams here like to say.
lol

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Thomas Stivers is a ham, too. ... Knew him in Austin when he first got
> licensed...as KC5YIK (that's "yik"...LOL)
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
> Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
> Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
> ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: serial port output

[jwantz]

Hi,
I'm a ham.

      73s
      Jim Wantz WB0TFK
On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
> >
> > Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> > wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> > (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> > Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> > more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
> Heh, you forgot me too! Heh I'm the dude who had the Nasa sounding mic on
> the reflector a while back.
> Hehe.
>
> Tommy
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: serial port output

[Angelo Sonnesso]

and me to N2DYN.

----- Original Message -----
From: <jwantz@hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: serial port output


> Hi,
> I'm a ham.
>
>       73s
>       Jim Wantz WB0TFK
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Tommy Moore wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > > > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
> > >
> > > Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> > > wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> > > (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> > > Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> > > more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
> > Heh, you forgot me too! Heh I'm the dude who had the Nasa sounding mic
on
> > the reflector a while back.
> > Hehe.
> >
> > Tommy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: serial port output

[Amanda Lee]

and yeah there's me

amanda, WB4NCH



On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
>
> Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
>
> BTW, I completely agree with you on Speakup's ability to give us
> independent control over our OS installation and system config. You're
> finding out, no doubt, that there's a fairly steep learning curve
> here--two years later, I still have more to learn than I can even get
> my head around--but it's definitely worth the trouble!
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
> Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
> Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
> ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: serial port output

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Me too - N0MQP
My first ticket was issued in 1947.
Chuck

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Amanda Lee wrote:

> and yeah there's me
>
> amanda, WB4NCH
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
> >
> > Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> > wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> > (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> > Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> > more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
> >
> > BTW, I completely agree with you on Speakup's ability to give us
> > independent control over our OS installation and system config. You're
> > finding out, no doubt, that there's a fairly steep learning curve
> > here--two years later, I still have more to learn than I can even get
> > my head around--but it's definitely worth the trouble!
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
> > Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
> > Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
> > ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
The Moon is Waning Gibbous (95% of Full)

Re: serial port output

[Robert Arnzen]

AI0J is also here.

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

>
> Me too - N0MQP
> My first ticket was issued in 1947.
> Chuck
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Amanda Lee wrote:
>
> > and yeah there's me
> >
> > amanda, WB4NCH
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > > > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
> > >
> > > Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> > > wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> > > (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> > > Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> > > more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
> > >
> > > BTW, I completely agree with you on Speakup's ability to give us
> > > independent control over our OS installation and system config. You're
> > > finding out, no doubt, that there's a fairly steep learning curve
> > > here--two years later, I still have more to learn than I can even get
> > > my head around--but it's definitely worth the trouble!
> > > --
> > > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
> > > Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
> > > Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
> > > ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> The Moon is Waning Gibbous (95% of Full)
>
>
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: serial port output

[Brian Borowski]

 And there's Brian VE3HBE.


On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Amanda Lee wrote:

> and yeah there's me
>
> amanda, WB4NCH
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > > Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
> >
> > Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> > wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> > (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> > Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> > more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
> >
> > BTW, I completely agree with you on Speakup's ability to give us
> > independent control over our OS installation and system config. You're
> > finding out, no doubt, that there's a fairly steep learning curve
> > here--two years later, I still have more to learn than I can even get
> > my head around--but it's definitely worth the trouble!
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
> > Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
> > Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
> > ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: serial port output

[Tommy Moore]

Hi there Michael. There is a way to get win 98 and NT to install on a
system with out having to answer the questions. I have an answer file for
win98 SE but not for NT that I use on my box at home here when windows
dies on me. Yes I really like this ability with linux to be able to
install the os and that's something that most blind people hate when they
realize they can't install the system when it breaks. A problem you may
have with NT is that the sound card won't be detected during the install
and will need help to install the sound drivers.
98 finds my card so all I do is just install the screen reader and
everything's ready.

Tommy

Re: serial port output

[Janina Sajka]

If this were possible, we would not have had the problems we as a 
community have had with Windows installations. The only thing I know of 
which even comes close is that it is possible to install Windows from a 
script, much like a linux kickstart script. But, if one is to try that, 
one had best have all the answers in the correct order and correctly 
specified. This is not an easy task--though people have done it. I believe 
there is a script somewhere on the Win CDR, but I don't recall what it's 
called.

If you have to do this frequently, you might want to try a different 
strategy:

Create an image of a Windows installation without a nic and without video 
specifications--no networking and SVGA, in other words.

Then, write this Windows into an image file with dd.

Thereafter, everytime you need to start a new Windows installation, start 
from the dd file.

PS: Of course this requires you get a Win screen reader that doesn't care 
about video cards. There are a couple of such choices.


 On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Michael wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello all: 
> 
> I'm going to change sides for a moment and use what may be identified as bad language. <grin> 
> 
> I herd that it was possible, to output the install screens of a 9-x, NT-x platform to a serial port, to have it spoken by an external synthesizer.  One of the major stumbling blocks I'm faced with is total control of building a 9-X or NT-X machine from the ground up.  I have to rely on a sited individual to read the installation screens up until the point where my screen reader can be installed.  
> My current screen reader requires that IE 5.0, sound driver of course, and video driver be installed before it can become operational.  
> Can anybody shed some light on this matter? 
> I think one of the clear benefits of a Speakup adapted Linux machine is the ability for the blind user to hear the installation processes, along with the added security and the total independent control over 
> his or her computing environment.  
> 
> Chow:  
> Michael 
> 
> P S 
> Anyone dabble in amateur radio? 
>  
>   
>   
>   
>   
>  
>   
> 
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

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King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
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RE: serial port output

[Georgina]

Hi

Microsoft Batch 98.


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: 04 October 2001 21:33
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: serial port output


If this were possible, we would not have had the problems we as a
community have had with Windows installations. The only thing I know of
which even comes close is that it is possible to install Windows from a
script, much like a linux kickstart script. But, if one is to try that,
one had best have all the answers in the correct order and correctly
specified. This is not an easy task--though people have done it. I believe
there is a script somewhere on the Win CDR, but I don't recall what it's
called.

If you have to do this frequently, you might want to try a different
strategy:

Create an image of a Windows installation without a nic and without video
specifications--no networking and SVGA, in other words.

Then, write this Windows into an image file with dd.

Thereafter, everytime you need to start a new Windows installation, start
from the dd file.

PS: Of course this requires you get a Win screen reader that doesn't care
about video cards. There are a couple of such choices.


 On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Michael wrote:

>
>
> Hello all:
>
> I'm going to change sides for a moment and use what may be identified as
bad language. <grin>
>
> I herd that it was possible, to output the install screens of a 9-x, NT-x
platform to a serial port, to have it spoken by an external synthesizer.
One of the major stumbling blocks I'm faced with is total control of
building a 9-X or NT-X machine from the ground up.  I have to rely on a
sited individual to read the installation screens up until the point where
my screen reader can be installed.
> My current screen reader requires that IE 5.0, sound driver of course, and
video driver be installed before it can become operational.
> Can anybody shed some light on this matter?
> I think one of the clear benefits of a Speakup adapted Linux machine is
the ability for the blind user to hear the installation processes, along
with the added security and the total independent control over
> his or her computing environment.
>
> Chow:
> Michael
>
> P S
> Anyone dabble in amateur radio?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--

				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp


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RE: serial port output

[Kirk Wood]

> If this were possible, we would not have had the problems we as a
> community have had with Windows installations. The only thing I know of
> which even comes close is that it is possible to install Windows from a
> script, much like a linux kickstart script. But, if one is to try that,
> one had best have all the answers in the correct order and correctly
> specified. This is not an easy task--though people have done it. I believe
> there is a script somewhere on the Win CDR, but I don't recall what it's
> called.

Actually it is quite easy to install winblows with a file to provide all
the answers. You can install windows with absolutely no prompts beyond the
initial command. The instructions are in the resource kit. This is
convienently placed on the distribution CD, along with a sample file. I
believe in win98 it creates a file for you when you run installation
anyway. You will also find that this file has already been created in
almost every oem installation right along with the cab files.

It may be tedious, but it really isn't hard.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

"When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missle at
a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive."
	- President George Bush

RE: serial port output

[Dawes, Stephen]

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Hey Buddy, if you are collecting call signs, well here you go!
Caution: If you listen to it, it sounds quite different then it actually
is, so I will provide it both ways.


VE6AYT
Vector Echo 6 Alpha Yankee Tango


Steve Dawes
PHONE:  (403) 268-5527. 
E-MAIL ADDRESS:  Stephen.Dawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buddy Brannan [mailto:davros@ycardz.com]
> Sent: 2001 October 04 2:18 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: serial port output
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 05:05:29PM -0230, Michael wrote:
> > Anyone dabble in amateur radio? 
> 
> Only a helluva lot of us! The number of hams on this list, well, you
> wouldn't believe! Let's see. There's me, and Kirk, and Kirk, and Jenny
> (Is she even still here?), and Bill Acker, and John Covici, and
> Stephen Dawes, and Ann P. and Scott, and I'm probably missing a bunch
> more. (Hehe...a question I know the answer to! Cool!)
> 
> BTW, I completely agree with you on Speakup's ability to give us
> independent control over our OS installation and system config. You're
> finding out, no doubt, that there's a fairly steep learning curve
> here--two years later, I still have more to learn than I can even get
> my head around--but it's definitely worth the trouble!
> -- 
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV    | From the pines down to the projects,
> Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
> Phone: (972) 276-6360    | And it's only going forward,
> ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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