alsa troubles

alsa troubles

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi everyone.  I'm trying to get the alsa drivers working.  I've compiled
and installed the alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utils in that order.
When I type alsamixer I get the message.

alsamixer: failed to open mixer: #0/#0 no such file or directory.

I've read the install files and readmes and done everything accordingly to
the files and still nothing.  I have an isa sbawe64 pnp board.

Any ideas?

Re: alsa troubles

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Did you run the snd-devices script in the driver package to make the
correct sound devices?

Geoff.

Re: alsa troubles

[Raul A. Gallegos]

I forgot to mention that but yes I did.  ./snddevs or something like that.

Regards.

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Geoff Shang wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Did you run the snd-devices script in the driver package to make the
> correct sound devices?

Re: alsa troubles

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, this is all going to sound really basic, but check the following.
Is sound support enabled in your kernel compile--sound support but no
sound devices.
2.  I am wondering about your compile order; I can't find anything about
it now, but somehow I had the impression you needed to compile the libs
before the driver, but in that case you should have had an error when
compiling the driver.  Did you check your compiles at each step for
errors?  Not trying to be insulting, just trying not to miss anything.
3. Have you checked /var/log/messages for a record of what happened when
the sound driver loaded?  Also, have you checked the info on your screen
before the login prompt?  A problem with loading the module(s) should show
up there.
4. Have you also checked your /lib/modules/(whatever version kernel you're
using) to see if the necessary modules actually got installed there?
5.  What messages do you get if you type "amixer" and/or "alsactl store"?
6. I'm not familiar with what card you're using, but if it's a
plug-and-play and you used isapnp support, do you now have a isapnp.conf
file and what does it tell you?
These are all the ideas I can think of at the moment.  Even if none of
them help, maybe one of them will lead you to the problem.

                              Cheryl

Re: alsa troubles

[Raul A. Gallegos]

I don't mind basic because I'm not against the idea that I've foobarred somewhere.

Below is a checklist of what I've done.

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 09:23:10 -0700 (PDT), Cheryl Homiak wrote:

>Ok, this is all going to sound really basic, but check the following.
>Is sound support enabled in your kernel compile--sound support but no
>sound devices.

Correct.  Only said y to sound support, n to the rest.

>2.  I am wondering about your compile order; I can't find anything about
>it now, but somehow I had the impression you needed to compile the libs
>before the driver, but in that case you should have had an error when
>compiling the driver.  Did you check your compiles at each step for
>errors?  Not trying to be insulting, just trying not to miss anything.

Compile in the order I did was no errors.  Not insulting at all.

>3. Have you checked /var/log/messages for a record of what happened when
>the sound driver loaded?  Also, have you checked the info on your screen
>before the login prompt?  A problem with loading the module(s) should show
>up there.

Yes and there is nothing mentioning anything regarding sound.  When I try running /ec/rc.d/alsa start I get a lot of insmod errors though.

>4. Have you also checked your /lib/modules/(whatever version kernel you're
>using) to see if the necessary modules actually got installed there?

They were installed in /lib/modules/2.2.19/misc as they should have been.

>5.  What messages do you get if you type "amixer" and/or "alsactl store"?

root@stoned:~# amixer
The alsa driver was not detected in this system.

>6. I'm not familiar with what card you're using, ut if it's a
>plug-and-play and you used isapnp support, do you now have a isapnp.conf
>file and what does it tell you?

I only have an isapnp.conf-sample.  I have an sb-64 isa pnp.

>These are all the ideas I can think of at the moment.  Even if none of
>them help, maybe one of them will lead you to the problem.
>
Thanks.  Also, the card is not listed in /proc/interrupts and /proc/devices



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Re: alsa troubles

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Raul:  it looks like from this message that you don't have the
isapnp stuff set up correctly.  I don't know whether you understand
how it works or not, so I'll outline it here.

First you run pnpdump with the output to a file:

pnpdump >isapnp.conf (in your home directory for now)

You need to edit this file and uncomment the lines where you want the
card to live.  pnpdump will put a zillion options in the file.  I
usually just edit the first soundblaster set to be what I want.  The
important ones are irq, io/base and the two dma channels.  The rest of
the support you cango back and fill in later after you get the basic
operation working.  If it is to confusing, let me know and I'll send
you one of mine as an example.

After editing the file you copy it into /etc and type:

isapnp isapnp.conf

Isapnp should give you an okay if it works okay.  I can't remember the
message off hand.  It'll bitch like hell if it doesn't work.  Once
that loads correctly then make sure your snd_irq and so forth in your
modules.conf file match where you told isapnp to put the card and do a
modprobe snd-card-sb16 or whatever.

  Kirk

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e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: alsa troubles

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi Kirk and everyone.  Well I hope to get this working. I'd like to get to play sounds and eventually use Linux to get on the reflecter..

I've configured isapnp.conf and when I run the isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf line I do get an ok.  I've edited the modules.conf to alias the correct module snd-sbawe 
on irq 5 etc to match what is in isapnp.conf.

Now when I try to modprobe snd-card-0 or modprobe snd-card-sbawe I get the device or resource busy error.  I've checked the kernel and sound itself is a 
module and nothing else is compiled in.

As I speak I'm remaking alsa with the --with-card=sbawe and --with-isapnp=no as suggested as well.


Once again, thanks for any help offered.



Raul A. Gallegos -- raul@asmodean.net
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Re: alsa troubles

[Terry D. Cudney]

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Hi Raul,

	Don't know if this will help, but maybe...

	I'm attaching my alsa configuration that gets put into the /etc/modules files by update-modules (Debian).  I'm no expert in this but it works for my SB AWE64 ISA pnp using isapnp.conf, configuring alsa driver --with-isapnp=no.

HTH

	--terry
You wrote:

-=> Hi Kirk and everyone.  Well I hope to get this working. I'd like to get to play sounds and eventually use Linux to get on the reflecter..
-=>
-=> I've configured isapnp.conf and when I run the isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf line I do get an ok.  I've edited the modules.conf to alias the correct module snd-sbawe
-=> on irq 5 etc to match what is in isapnp.conf.
-=>
-=> Now when I try to modprobe snd-card-0 or modprobe snd-card-sbawe I get the device or resource busy error.  I've checked the kernel and sound itself is a
-=> module and nothing else is compiled in.
-=>
-=> As I speak I'm remaking alsa with the --with-card=sbawe and --with-isapnp=no as suggested as well.
-=>
-=>
-=> Once again, thanks for any help offered.
-=>
-=>
-=>
-=> Raul A. Gallegos -- raul@asmodean.net
-=> msn id: ragallegos@hotmail.com -- icq: 5283055
-=> http://www.asmodean.net
-=>
-=>
-=>
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alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-sbawe
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 snd_device_mode=0660 snd_device_gid=29 snd_device_uid=0
options snd-card-sbawe snd_index=0 snd_id=CARD_1 snd_port=0x220 snd_mpu_port=0x300 snd_awe_port=-1 snd_irq=5 snd_dma8=1 snd_dma16=5 snd_mic_agc=0

Re: alsa troubles

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, I didn't give you the complete path to check in /lib/modules.  It
would be /lib/modules/(kernelversion)/misc.

                              Cheryl

Re: alsa troubles

[Cheryl Homiak]

Or whether or not you have an isapnp.conf, do you have an asound.conf and
what does that tell you?

                              Cheryl

Re: alsa troubles

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, so I'm not organized this morning!  Also check /proc/interrupts and
/proc/devices; alsa should be listed in the devices and your card should
be using an irq.

                              Cheryl

Re: alsa troubles

[Shaun Oliver]

is it an awe 64 or awe 64gold?
that may have some baring on the situation. remember, the awe64gold has a
digital output on it.


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On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to get the alsa drivers working.  I've compiled
> and installed the alsa-driver, alsa-lib and alsa-utils in that order.
> When I type alsamixer I get the message.
> 
> alsamixer: failed to open mixer: #0/#0 no such file or directory.
> 
> I've read the install files and readmes and done everything accordingly to
> the files and still nothing.  I have an isa sbawe64 pnp board.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: alsa troubles

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Raul:  If you've run the snddevices script you also need to load
the drivers with the modprobe snd-card-your_synth.  If you get the
same error from amixer then try to save an asound.conf with the
alsactl store command.  You shouldn't need to do that but often I
found if I've changed sound cards or something I need to save a file
before amixer can read the headers.

  Kirk

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e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: alsa troubles

[Frank Carmickle]

Hi Raul

I think your trouble is isapnp related.  What you will want to do is
configure the alsa-drivers with the ./configure --with-cards=sbawe
--with-isapnp=no.  Then you will want to get the isapnp package working
and edit the file /etc/isapnp.conf to properly configure the card.  Feel
free to call if you need more help.

HTH
-- 
     Frank Carmickle
phone:     412 761-9568
email:     frankiec@dryrose.com

Re: alsa troubles

[Raul A. Gallegos]

yep.  I totally didn think of isapnp.  I've done an pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf and now am in the process of editing it but I'm not sure of what I need to edit 
out.  If you or anyone on the list have an isapnp.conf file I can look at for reference I'd appreciate it.

Question.  You said to configure the alsa-driver with configure options:

--with-cards=sbawe
--with-isapnp=no

Does it not make sense to use isapnp=yes?  I'm confused on this point.  I'm using a Soundblaster awe-64-pnp isa card.

Best regards and thanks for help.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:07:21 -0400 (EDT), Frank Carmickle wrote:

>Hi Raul
>
>I think your trouble is isapnp related.  What you will want to do is
>configure the alsa-drivers with the ./configure --with-cards=sbawe
>--with-isapnp=no.  Then you will want to get the isapnp package working
>and edit the file /etc/isapnp.conf to properly configure the card.  Feel
>free to call if you need more help.
>


Raul A. Gallegos -- raul@asmodean.net
msn id: ragallegos@hotmail.com -- icq: 5283055
http://www.asmodean.net

Re: alsa troubles

[Frank Carmickle]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

> yep.  I totally didn think of isapnp.  I've done an pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf and now am in the process of editing it but I'm not sure of what I need to edit 
> out.  If you or anyone on the list have an isapnp.conf file I can look at for reference I'd appreciate it.
> 
> Question.  You said to configure the alsa-driver with configure options:
> 
> --with-cards=sbawe
> --with-isapnp=no
> 
> Does it not make sense to use isapnp=yes?  I'm confused on this point.  I'm using a Soundblaster awe-64-pnp isa card.

Yes you want --with-isapnp=no.  Either you choose alsa to configure the
card or the isapnp utils not both.  If isapnp is what you are going to use
then alsa can think that the card is an already configured device.


-- 
     Frank Carmickle
phone:     412 761-9568
email:     frankiec@dryrose.com