RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

Gregory,

The linux boxes are configured as follows--
box1:
ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.80 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
box2:
ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.81 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
windows box:
IP: 132.146.209.88 netmask: 255.255.255.0

Now, as I mentioned in the previous mail, either one of the linux boxes will
network with the windows box using a crossover, but the linux boxes will not
network with each other.
Additionally, yesterday I purchased a 4 port hub and with this, non of the
machines will network. The TX light flashes on the port wich I'm using to
ping, but nothing on the RX port which I'm pingging
further more, if I use the windows box to ping the linux box, I can see RX
errors on the linux box using 'ifconfig'.
If I use FTP from the linux box to the windows box, I get the message 'no
route to host'

All of the ports on the hub wich are connected to machines, shows active
once the Ethernet cards are initialised. Also, the TX LED on the hub for the
port that is connected to the windows machine flashes sporadically.
Associated with this, when I network the linux box with the windows box
using a crossover, I noticed that the RX packet count increased
sporadically, even when the network wasn't being used.

I have frankly ran out of ideas. Please hlp!!!

Regards

Mo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
Sent: 09 July 2001 17:56
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


Hi,

What's your network config like on the slackware boxes?
Greg


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:14:22PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can someone please help?
> 
> Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
> 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the WinMe
> PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
> Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC combination
> network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
> ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both
Linux
> PCS.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
> 
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RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Frank Carmickle]

Hi Mo

It seems as though you don't have a route being added.  Not quite sure
what's going on.  See what the routing table has to say.  'route -n' If
talking this over would help feel free to give me a call.

-- 
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phone:     412 761-9568
email:     frankiec@dryrose.com

RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Kirk Wood]

Check to see if you can ping the linux boxes from each other. Also, are
you using SMB for network services on the Linux boxes?

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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Gregory Nowak]

Mo,

You are running a private lan, right?
This brings one question to mind. 
Why aren't you using the 192.168.x.x ip address with your current netmask (which is the right
thing to do for private class c networks)?
Try chahnging the ip addresses as I suggested, and see if that helps.
Greg


On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:46:57AM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> Gregory,
> 
> The linux boxes are configured as follows--
> box1:
> ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.80 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> box2:
> ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.81 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> windows box:
> IP: 132.146.209.88 netmask: 255.255.255.0
> 
> Now, as I mentioned in the previous mail, either one of the linux boxes will
> network with the windows box using a crossover, but the linux boxes will not
> network with each other.
> Additionally, yesterday I purchased a 4 port hub and with this, non of the
> machines will network. The TX light flashes on the port wich I'm using to
> ping, but nothing on the RX port which I'm pingging
> further more, if I use the windows box to ping the linux box, I can see RX
> errors on the linux box using 'ifconfig'.
> If I use FTP from the linux box to the windows box, I get the message 'no
> route to host'
> 
> All of the ports on the hub wich are connected to machines, shows active
> once the Ethernet cards are initialised. Also, the TX LED on the hub for the
> port that is connected to the windows machine flashes sporadically.
> Associated with this, when I network the linux box with the windows box
> using a crossover, I noticed that the RX packet count increased
> sporadically, even when the network wasn't being used.
> 
> I have frankly ran out of ideas. Please hlp!!!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> Sent: 09 July 2001 17:56
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What's your network config like on the slackware boxes?
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:14:22PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Can someone please help?
> > 
> > Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
> > 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the WinMe
> > PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
> > Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> > combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC combination
> > network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
> > ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both
> Linux
> > PCS.
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > 
> > Mo.
> > 
> > 
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RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

Dear listers

Success!!!
I don't know why, but when I returned home from a tired day at the office
yesterday and was planning to take out the frustration on my little network,
to my surprise, the two Linux boxes connected via the Hub without any
difficulties. I did nothing different than what I tried previously, but this
time it worked. However, I still couldn't connect the windows machine to the
network, so after spending several hours tinkering around, I decided to try
another PCM/CIA network card as this was the only thing I could think of.
Once again to my astonishment, the windows box too connected to the network.
I guess the only mystery is why I couldn't connect the two Linux boxes using
a crossover cable, but do I care???

I very much appreciate your kindness to help and would like to thank you
again.

Kind regards

Mo.



-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
Sent: 10 July 2001 18:01
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


Most likely not, but it might in some twisted way.
Greg


On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 04:53:55PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> Gregory,
> 
> Yep, it is a private LAN, but I don't think this will make any difference,
> do you?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> Sent: 10 July 2001 16:17
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> 
> 
> Mo,
> 
> You are running a private lan, right?
> This brings one question to mind. 
> Why aren't you using the 192.168.x.x ip address with your current netmask
> (which is the right
> thing to do for private class c networks)?
> Try chahnging the ip addresses as I suggested, and see if that helps.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:46:57AM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> > Gregory,
> > 
> > The linux boxes are configured as follows--
> > box1:
> > ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.80 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > box2:
> > ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.81 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > windows box:
> > IP: 132.146.209.88 netmask: 255.255.255.0
> > 
> > Now, as I mentioned in the previous mail, either one of the linux boxes
> will
> > network with the windows box using a crossover, but the linux boxes will
> not
> > network with each other.
> > Additionally, yesterday I purchased a 4 port hub and with this, non of
the
> > machines will network. The TX light flashes on the port wich I'm using
to
> > ping, but nothing on the RX port which I'm pingging
> > further more, if I use the windows box to ping the linux box, I can see
RX
> > errors on the linux box using 'ifconfig'.
> > If I use FTP from the linux box to the windows box, I get the message
'no
> > route to host'
> > 
> > All of the ports on the hub wich are connected to machines, shows active
> > once the Ethernet cards are initialised. Also, the TX LED on the hub for
> the
> > port that is connected to the windows machine flashes sporadically.
> > Associated with this, when I network the linux box with the windows box
> > using a crossover, I noticed that the RX packet count increased
> > sporadically, even when the network wasn't being used.
> > 
> > I have frankly ran out of ideas. Please hlp!!!
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Mo.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> > Sent: 09 July 2001 17:56
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > What's your network config like on the slackware boxes?
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:14:22PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Can someone please help?
> > > 
> > > Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware
Linux
> > > 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the
> WinMe
> > > PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the
two
> > > Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> > > combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC
> combination
> > > network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing
the
> > > ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both
> > Linux
> > > PCS.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kind regards
> > > 
> > > Mo.
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Gregory Nowak]

Most likely not, but it might in some twisted way.
Greg


On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 04:53:55PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> Gregory,
> 
> Yep, it is a private LAN, but I don't think this will make any difference,
> do you?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> Sent: 10 July 2001 16:17
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> 
> 
> Mo,
> 
> You are running a private lan, right?
> This brings one question to mind. 
> Why aren't you using the 192.168.x.x ip address with your current netmask
> (which is the right
> thing to do for private class c networks)?
> Try chahnging the ip addresses as I suggested, and see if that helps.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:46:57AM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> > Gregory,
> > 
> > The linux boxes are configured as follows--
> > box1:
> > ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.80 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > box2:
> > ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.81 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> > windows box:
> > IP: 132.146.209.88 netmask: 255.255.255.0
> > 
> > Now, as I mentioned in the previous mail, either one of the linux boxes
> will
> > network with the windows box using a crossover, but the linux boxes will
> not
> > network with each other.
> > Additionally, yesterday I purchased a 4 port hub and with this, non of the
> > machines will network. The TX light flashes on the port wich I'm using to
> > ping, but nothing on the RX port which I'm pingging
> > further more, if I use the windows box to ping the linux box, I can see RX
> > errors on the linux box using 'ifconfig'.
> > If I use FTP from the linux box to the windows box, I get the message 'no
> > route to host'
> > 
> > All of the ports on the hub wich are connected to machines, shows active
> > once the Ethernet cards are initialised. Also, the TX LED on the hub for
> the
> > port that is connected to the windows machine flashes sporadically.
> > Associated with this, when I network the linux box with the windows box
> > using a crossover, I noticed that the RX packet count increased
> > sporadically, even when the network wasn't being used.
> > 
> > I have frankly ran out of ideas. Please hlp!!!
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Mo.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> > Sent: 09 July 2001 17:56
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > What's your network config like on the slackware boxes?
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:14:22PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Can someone please help?
> > > 
> > > Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
> > > 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the
> WinMe
> > > PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
> > > Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> > > combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC
> combination
> > > network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
> > > ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both
> > Linux
> > > PCS.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kind regards
> > > 
> > > Mo.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
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RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

Gregory,

Yep, it is a private LAN, but I don't think this will make any difference,
do you?

Regards

Mo.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
Sent: 10 July 2001 16:17
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


Mo,

You are running a private lan, right?
This brings one question to mind. 
Why aren't you using the 192.168.x.x ip address with your current netmask
(which is the right
thing to do for private class c networks)?
Try chahnging the ip addresses as I suggested, and see if that helps.
Greg


On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:46:57AM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> Gregory,
> 
> The linux boxes are configured as follows--
> box1:
> ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.80 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> box2:
> ifconfig eth0 132.146.209.81 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> windows box:
> IP: 132.146.209.88 netmask: 255.255.255.0
> 
> Now, as I mentioned in the previous mail, either one of the linux boxes
will
> network with the windows box using a crossover, but the linux boxes will
not
> network with each other.
> Additionally, yesterday I purchased a 4 port hub and with this, non of the
> machines will network. The TX light flashes on the port wich I'm using to
> ping, but nothing on the RX port which I'm pingging
> further more, if I use the windows box to ping the linux box, I can see RX
> errors on the linux box using 'ifconfig'.
> If I use FTP from the linux box to the windows box, I get the message 'no
> route to host'
> 
> All of the ports on the hub wich are connected to machines, shows active
> once the Ethernet cards are initialised. Also, the TX LED on the hub for
the
> port that is connected to the windows machine flashes sporadically.
> Associated with this, when I network the linux box with the windows box
> using a crossover, I noticed that the RX packet count increased
> sporadically, even when the network wasn't being used.
> 
> I have frankly ran out of ideas. Please hlp!!!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> Sent: 09 July 2001 17:56
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What's your network config like on the slackware boxes?
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:14:22PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Can someone please help?
> > 
> > Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
> > 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the
WinMe
> > PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
> > Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> > combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC
combination
> > network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
> > ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both
> Linux
> > PCS.
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > 
> > Mo.
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

Frank,

Yes please it would be good to chat with you. I've tried your number, but
must be doing something wrong. Could you please send me your number with the
full international dialling info.

Kind regards

Mo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Carmickle [mailto:frankiec@braille.uwo.ca]
Sent: 10 July 2001 14:09
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


Hi Mo

It seems as though you don't have a route being added.  Not quite sure
what's going on.  See what the routing table has to say.  'route -n' If
talking this over would help feel free to give me a call.

-- 
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RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

Hi Kirk,

I am unable to ping the Linux boxes from each other using a crossover or
using a hub. I have not configured SMB services myself, unless they are
automatically enabled on the distribution installation. I am using Slakware
7.1

Kind regards

Mo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk Wood [mailto:cpt.kirk@1tree.net]
Sent: 10 July 2001 14:44
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


Check to see if you can ping the linux boxes from each other. Also, are
you using SMB for network services on the Linux boxes?

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RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk Wood [mailto:cpt.kirk@1tree.net]
Sent: 09 July 2001 19:03
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Why?
> I have 4 machines here, and they all go over the same cross over cable
> which gets switched from machine to machine as it's needed.
> Two of the boxes run slackware, and they connect
> with themselves as well as their windows
> counterparts just fine.
> Besides, if the windows boxes connect to the linux boxes just
> fine over the cross over cable,
> then I really don't see how a hub would help.

Well lets start with the fact that some network cards don't work properly
using a cross over cable. Then follow by the fact that no vendor I know of
will support a machine using a cross over cable.

** I've already said that either of the two linux boxes quite haply network
with the windows box using a crossover. 

I would also add that this eliminates the "oops, the cable is between the
wrong two boxes" errors.
** only happens to silly people.

It also answers more of how the network is
setup. Right now, we don't know that he doesn't have two network cards in
one or more machines with one being expected to act as a router.
** I would have said if I had two network cards in any machines.


This may work, but is less then optimal and much more difficult to
troubleshoot. It
is much easier to deal with problems when the problem is simplified.

I don't have two network cards in any of the machines. I just want two linux
boxes to be able to network using single cards in each machines and using a
crossover. Is that clear enough???

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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Gregory Nowak]

Ok, you've got a point there.
Greg


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:02:48PM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > Why?
> > I have 4 machines here, and they all go over the same cross over cable
> > which gets switched from machine to machine as it's needed.
> > Two of the boxes run slackware, and they connect
> > with themselves as well as their windows
> > counterparts just fine.
> > Besides, if the windows boxes connect to the linux boxes just
> > fine over the cross over cable,
> > then I really don't see how a hub would help.
> 
> Well lets start with the fact that some network cards don't work properly
> using a cross over cable. Then follow by the fact that no vendor I know of
> will support a machine using a cross over cable.
> 
> I would also add that this eliminates the "oops, the cable is between the
> wrong two boxes" errors. It also answers more of how the network is
> setup. Right now, we don't know that he doesn't have two network cards in
> one or more machines with one being expected to act as a router. This may
> work, but is less then optimal and much more difficult to troubleshoot. It
> is much easier to deal with problems when the problem is simplified.
> 
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Gregory Nowak]

Yeah, I know that.
However, it doesn't mean that
Mo *should be*  using a hub,
it just makes life easier, but it's not necessary.
Greg


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 10:25:53AM -0700, Holmes, Steve wrote:
> Well, if you use a hub, all the machines can be connected at once (with
> their own addresses of course) and you can access any of the machines from
> any other machine with no muss, no fuss.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING
> 
> 
> Why?
> I have 4 machines here, and they all go over the same cross over cable
> which gets switched from machine to machine as it's needed.
> Two of the boxes run slackware, and they connect
> with themselves as well as their windows
> counterparts just fine.
> Besides, if the windows boxes connect to the linux boxes just
> fine over the cross over cable,
> then I really don't see how a hub would help.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:55:08AM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> > I would start with a hub. If you have three machines you really should be
> > using a hub. (Actually with two you should be using one.) Then start with
> > verifying that all machines have the expected IP address, and said address
> > actually falls into the same subnet on all machines.
> > 
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> > 
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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Kirk Wood]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Why?
> I have 4 machines here, and they all go over the same cross over cable
> which gets switched from machine to machine as it's needed.
> Two of the boxes run slackware, and they connect
> with themselves as well as their windows
> counterparts just fine.
> Besides, if the windows boxes connect to the linux boxes just
> fine over the cross over cable,
> then I really don't see how a hub would help.

Well lets start with the fact that some network cards don't work properly
using a cross over cable. Then follow by the fact that no vendor I know of
will support a machine using a cross over cable.

I would also add that this eliminates the "oops, the cable is between the
wrong two boxes" errors. It also answers more of how the network is
setup. Right now, we don't know that he doesn't have two network cards in
one or more machines with one being expected to act as a router. This may
work, but is less then optimal and much more difficult to troubleshoot. It
is much easier to deal with problems when the problem is simplified.

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Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
If your too open minded, your brains will fall out.

RE: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Holmes, Steve]

Well, if you use a hub, all the machines can be connected at once (with
their own addresses of course) and you can access any of the machines from
any other machine with no muss, no fuss.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:romualt@megsinet.net]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:02 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING


Why?
I have 4 machines here, and they all go over the same cross over cable
which gets switched from machine to machine as it's needed.
Two of the boxes run slackware, and they connect
with themselves as well as their windows
counterparts just fine.
Besides, if the windows boxes connect to the linux boxes just
fine over the cross over cable,
then I really don't see how a hub would help.
Greg


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:55:08AM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> I would start with a hub. If you have three machines you really should be
> using a hub. (Actually with two you should be using one.) Then start with
> verifying that all machines have the expected IP address, and said address
> actually falls into the same subnet on all machines.
> 
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
> If your too open minded, your brains will fall out.
> 
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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Gregory Nowak]

Why?
I have 4 machines here, and they all go over the same cross over cable
which gets switched from machine to machine as it's needed.
Two of the boxes run slackware, and they connect
with themselves as well as their windows
counterparts just fine.
Besides, if the windows boxes connect to the linux boxes just
fine over the cross over cable,
then I really don't see how a hub would help.
Greg


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:55:08AM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> I would start with a hub. If you have three machines you really should be
> using a hub. (Actually with two you should be using one.) Then start with
> verifying that all machines have the expected IP address, and said address
> actually falls into the same subnet on all machines.
> 
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
> If your too open minded, your brains will fall out.
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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi,

What's your network config like on the slackware boxes?
Greg


On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:14:22PM +0100, mo.valli@bt.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can someone please help?
> 
> Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
> 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the WinMe
> PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
> Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC combination
> network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
> ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both Linux
> PCS.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mo.
> 
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Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Kirk Wood]

I would start with a hub. If you have three machines you really should be
using a hub. (Actually with two you should be using one.) Then start with
verifying that all machines have the expected IP address, and said address
actually falls into the same subnet on all machines.

=======
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Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
If your too open minded, your brains will fall out.

Re: OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[Steve Holmes]

I have two linux boxes and two windows machines linked up over a local
ethernet.  I use a hub, however.  Don't know much about cross over cables.
My two linux boxes seem to work fine in my situation they both came up
without incident.  I bought a hub with eight ports for $60; I think 4 port
hubs are also available for less.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 mo.valli@bt.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone please help?
>
> Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
> 7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the WinMe
> PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
> Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
> combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC combination
> network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
> ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both Linux
> PCS.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Mo.
>
>
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OFF TOPIC - LINUX NETWORKING

[mo.valli]

Hi,

Can someone please help?

Basically, I have three PCs, one with WinMe and two with slakware Linux
7.21. Now, I am able to network either one of the Linux PCs with the WinMe
PC using a crossover Ethernet cable, but I am unable to network the two
Linux PCs together. ping works with the WinMe and Linux networking
combination in either direction, but not with the two Linux PC combination
network. Further more, when I check the Ethernet ports after issuing the
ping command, the TX bytes field shows 0. and this is the same on both Linux
PCS.


Kind regards

Mo.