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* retrieving files
@  Charles Hallenbeck
   ` Geoff Shang
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Charles Hallenbeck @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup Distribution List

I hope someone can point me in the right direction. I have been retrieving
files from various internet sites with no difficulty for a long time,
using lynx, or ftp, or lately using wget. Until recently all the files I
have ever needed have hae either "http:" or "ftp:" as their protocol
prefixes, and when that has been the case, it has not mattered what the
file type was - tgz, html, txt, rm, mp3, whatever.

With the advent of trplayer however, I have noticed other protocol
prefixes on files I wish to download, and I cannot for the life of me
figure out how to do it. They are sound files (ending in .rm or .ra) and
the prefixes are "pnm:" and "rtsp:". I can play such files fine while
online, but I would like to retrieve them in some cases to have a local
copy. Are there any tools or tricks that I am overlooking to download
files whose URL begins with pnm: or rtsp:?

I recently upgraded my old system to a shiny new one here, and in the
process I broke my vsound program. Vsound worked like a charm on the old
system and allowed me to play the kinds of files I am talking about and
convert them into .wav files on my local system. From there I could make
them into mp3 files. However, on my faster machine, Slackware 7.1 instead
of 4.0, an sblive card instead of an awe64, the latest alsa drivers
instead of the older version 4.1, vsound is a disaster. Erik Di Castro
tried like the dickens to duplicate my difficulty but was unable to. He
configured his system very nearly like my own except he retained his OSS
drivers and not alsa drivers, but was unable to make vsound misbehave. He
concluded that my alsa drivers are at fault. 

Aside from fixing vsound, I cannot think of another way to retrieve those
files. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Chuck

PS - If the answer to this question is illegal (i.e. if I am not supposed
to have copies of such files) write to me privately - I will never tell!


My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them
pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
		-- Winston Churchill



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* Re: retrieving files
   retrieving files Charles Hallenbeck
@  ` Geoff Shang
     ` Charles Hallenbeck
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Geoff Shang @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi Chuck:

Both PNM and RTSP are streaming protocols, designed for a program like
realplayer to use to connect to a server.  Since lynx does not how to talk
in these protocols, nor does any other retrieval program that I know of, my
thought would be that you're out of luck here.  These are files that re
meant to be streamed to you in realtime from the particular site, and not
intended by the webmaster to be downloaded.  Apart from using something
like vsound, I can't think of how you'd manage this.

Geoff.


-- 
Geoff Shang <gshang10@scu.edu.au>
ICQ number 43634701



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* Re: retrieving files
   ` Geoff Shang
@    ` Charles Hallenbeck
       ` Geoff Shang
       ` Kerry Hoath
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Charles Hallenbeck @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Thanks Geoff -

Too bad. There are two sites where I have an interest in such things. Each
of them would rather have me buy a CD but they have some rather nice
examples posted of what I might get if I did. Oh well - I guess they know
what they are doing. Nice opportunity here for a brilliant Scandinavian
teen-ager!
Chuck


My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
Life is not for everyone.



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* Re: retrieving files
     ` Charles Hallenbeck
@      ` Geoff Shang
       ` Kerry Hoath
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Geoff Shang @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi:

This is true, Chuck.  The other thing is that realaudio served this way is
actually being served by a realaudio server as opposed to just off a web
server.  As such, because it's using a purposed-built protocol, it's very
likely to stream much better than via HTTP.  I guess it cuts both ways.

Geoff.


-- 
Geoff Shang <gshang10@scu.edu.au>
ICQ number 43634701



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* Re: retrieving files
     ` Charles Hallenbeck
       ` Geoff Shang
@      ` Kerry Hoath
         ` Brent Harding
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kerry Hoath @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Install a program called vsound. It will capture the output from
trplayer and save it to disk. this'll get you a copy of the stream.

Regards, Kerry
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 06:23:38AM -0500, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> Thanks Geoff -
> 
> Too bad. There are two sites where I have an interest in such things. Each
> of them would rather have me buy a CD but they have some rather nice
> examples posted of what I might get if I did. Oh well - I guess they know
> what they are doing. Nice opportunity here for a brilliant Scandinavian
> teen-ager!
> Chuck
> 
> 
> My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
> Life is not for everyone.
> 
> 
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Alternates: kerry@emusys.com.au kerry@gotss.spice.net.au or khoath@lis.net.au
ICQ UIN: 62823451



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* Re: retrieving files
       ` Kerry Hoath
@        ` Brent Harding
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brent Harding @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Is there a way to do this with a different stream while the sound card is
in use? I want to be able to do it where recording channels are wasted, as
in recording messages from dialpad or whatever, just enter the tones and
shut down the recording channel for use to get what I want. I get funny
messages sometimes that evoice only retains for so long now, and with the
30 minute a month limit, I'd rather email it to people than have to waste
minutes to hear it.

>Install a program called vsound. It will capture the output from
>trplayer and save it to disk. this'll get you a copy of the stream.
>
>Regards, Kerry
>On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 06:23:38AM -0500, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
>> Thanks Geoff -
>> 
>> Too bad. There are two sites where I have an interest in such things. Each
>> of them would rather have me buy a CD but they have some rather nice
>> examples posted of what I might get if I did. Oh well - I guess they know
>> what they are doing. Nice opportunity here for a brilliant Scandinavian
>> teen-ager!
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
>> Life is not for everyone.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>-- 
>--
>Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.eu.org
>Alternates: kerry@emusys.com.au kerry@gotss.spice.net.au or khoath@lis.net.au
>ICQ UIN: 62823451
>
>
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>
>



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