Re: network configuration problem

Re: network configuration problem

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Okay, the problem is solved! Frankie you were absolutely correct abaout the
problem being the HW flow control, but the solution was a lot simpler than
you suggested. It turns out my modem has a couple of default factory
settings, and one of them implements HW flow control - "at&f1" instead of
just "at&f" - I changed my modem initialization string to "at&f1l0" and it
works like a charm. My modem is very loud, so I have to use l0 in order not
to wake up the neitghbors when I dial in so early in the morning. This is
the first external modem I have used in many years, so it took me by
surprise... Thanks for all your help - now it's back to configuring this
awesome new machine of mine.

Chuck

Re: network configuration problem

[Kirk Wood]

Chuck,

Most externals have a knob on the outside to adjust volume that way at the
amp side. Then you can adjust from nothing to the loudness dictated by the
l instruction.

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------------------

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Re: network configuration problem

[Kerry Hoath]

Wow! A volume knob on a modem would be a good idea but over here in
Australia we don't get that option. I have used many modems;
Netcomm banxia dynalink rockwell based noname us robotics and sadly none of
them have this feature.

Another note:
Never never never add &w to theinit string of a modem.
Why? because over time the nvram will fail they only handle 10,000 writes and
if you &w every time you init hte modem that limit can come up.

Regarding the &f1 cludge; There is a far better way to handle this on
most modems.
Check your manual. You will find that there is an option to tell the modem
what profile to load at powerup. &y does it on one of my modems.
Then simply set modem to &d2 (dtr drops line but does not load profile) and
whenever you power cycle the modem it will reload the profile. If you set &d3
(reload profile on dtr drop) mgetty will break and bad things (tm) happen.

My preferred solution to the modem has brain damaged defaults for hw flow control
is to find the command to set hardware flow control often &k3 or similar,
run that and at&w the setting back into profile zero. This means you don't
have to change the default powerup profile and the default profile should be
the one you use on most equiptment anyway in my not so humble opinion.

Regards, Kerry.
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 06:37:24AM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> Chuck,
> 
> Most externals have a knob on the outside to adjust volume that way at the
> amp side. Then you can adjust from nothing to the loudness dictated by the
> l instruction.
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> ------------------
> 
> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
> 
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Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

Is there modem router combos, where I can have two machines connected by
ethernet with one using ipmasking over a dialup link? I mean, a modem that
dials up, but also has an ethernet jack to easily share the connection
among several machines?
It'd be where I'd telnet to this device, tell it the info to dial the isp,
and it would take care of that and I could have more machines with less
phone lines, sharing one ip address.
At 12:13 PM 10/13/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Wow! A volume knob on a modem would be a good idea but over here in
>Australia we don't get that option. I have used many modems;
>Netcomm banxia dynalink rockwell based noname us robotics and sadly none of
>them have this feature.
>
>Another note:
>Never never never add &w to theinit string of a modem.
>Why? because over time the nvram will fail they only handle 10,000 writes and
>if you &w every time you init hte modem that limit can come up.
>
>Regarding the &f1 cludge; There is a far better way to handle this on
>most modems.
>Check your manual. You will find that there is an option to tell the modem
>what profile to load at powerup. &y does it on one of my modems.
>Then simply set modem to &d2 (dtr drops line but does not load profile) and
>whenever you power cycle the modem it will reload the profile. If you set &d3
>(reload profile on dtr drop) mgetty will break and bad things (tm) happen.
>
>My preferred solution to the modem has brain damaged defaults for hw flow
control
>is to find the command to set hardware flow control often &k3 or similar,
>run that and at&w the setting back into profile zero. This means you don't
>have to change the default powerup profile and the default profile should be
>the one you use on most equiptment anyway in my not so humble opinion.
>
>Regards, Kerry.
>On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 06:37:24AM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> Most externals have a knob on the outside to adjust volume that way at the
>> amp side. Then you can adjust from nothing to the loudness dictated by the
>> l instruction.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kirk Wood
>> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>> ------------------
>> 
>> It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>> 
>> 
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Re: network configuration problem

[Kirk Wood]

If you look in a catalog for computer supplies you can find such a
device. But you will pay dearly for it. But a simple hub and set one
machine to dial the internet automatically if needed. Linux will do it,
and so will a few macroslop excuses. Then you can telnet to your linux box
and set it up since you so want to telnet.

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Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

The only reason I want to telnet to it, is because I don't want to dedicate
a synth to it. I want it to always stay online, the one that dials in. If
the ppp0 has one interface, and eth0 had a private ip address, the
connection will never work right, as writing modules to forward every port
I need is hard seeing I don't know programming in c. I want to keep
something online no matter if the synth is connected or not, so I'd have to
use a normal kernel without speakup in it, so if I want to change something
without rebooting to get speech in, I can just telnet from the
microsoft/linux dual booter I have now.
At 06:28 AM 10/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
>If you look in a catalog for computer supplies you can find such a
>device. But you will pay dearly for it. But a simple hub and set one
>machine to dial the internet automatically if needed. Linux will do it,
>and so will a few macroslop excuses. Then you can telnet to your linux box
>and set it up since you so want to telnet.
>
>-- 
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>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>------------------
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>It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Kirk Wood]

It will work just fine. Place your Linux machine with a ethernet port and
private address on your LAN and setup the PPP to dial on demand. Also
setup ip masquerading. Then whenever any machine on the network attempts
to access the internet it will dial up. If you have some idea that somehow
you can place more then one machine on the internet with a single IP and
all ports available to the world you are grossly mistaken.

Have one machine with whatever services you believe you want on the
internet and put it there. Then allow IP Masq to deal with the other
machines. Any other scheme you are thinking of is an invintation to
trouble, more trouble and massive ammounts of trouble.

-- 
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Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

No, I'm talking about services to the windows box. I heard ipmasking won't
allow me to connect to other machines on ports there is no proxy written
for, like shoutcast and msmedia, from the windows machines. I want to keep
the system dialed in, so I can run mail for my domain I registered. If the
link goes down the mail never will come in as the servers try at weird
intervals.
At 12:02 PM 10/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
>It will work just fine. Place your Linux machine with a ethernet port and
>private address on your LAN and setup the PPP to dial on demand. Also
>setup ip masquerading. Then whenever any machine on the network attempts
>to access the internet it will dial up. If you have some idea that somehow
>you can place more then one machine on the internet with a single IP and
>all ports available to the world you are grossly mistaken.
>
>Have one machine with whatever services you believe you want on the
>internet and put it there. Then allow IP Masq to deal with the other
>machines. Any other scheme you are thinking of is an invintation to
>trouble, more trouble and massive ammounts of trouble.
>
>-- 
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>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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>It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to listen to shoutcast
servers and windows media servers via IP masquerading.  This works
already.  Perhaps windows media could work better (I'm not sure), but it
does work.  Shoutcast works fine already.  Realaudio works better with the
raudio ipmasq module, but it can work without it.  A lot of the time, you
can deal with this stuff pretty easily.  IP masquerading works fine without
modification for protocols where the replies come back on the same port
number as the requests.  This is how IP masquerading works in the first
place.  If it comes back on some other port, the firewall has no way of
knowing that that packet is meant for the windows machine.  But you can
deal with this.  If it's a simple matter of port forwarding, you can use
something like ipmasqadm to do this.  Here's a solution I used to enable
buddy phone:

ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L `ipofif ppp0` 701 -R picard.home 701

Can't remember what the -a does, RTFM for ipmasqadm if you want to
know.  -p sets the protocol (tcp or udp).  -l sets the local IP
address.  In this case, I call a neat little script that obtains the IP
address of the specified interface.  This is just a shell script that comes
with debian's ipmasq package, so let me know if you want it.  -r is the
remote IP address, that is, the machine to which the port should be
forwarded, which is picard.home (the windows machine).  The 701 is the port
number.  So I'm saying here, please forward all UDP packets received on
port 701 of my PPP0 interface to my windows machine on the same port.

Geoff.


-- Geoff
Shang <gshang10@scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701

Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

Cool, which script does stuff like this get added to? I never did get how
all that symbolic linking and priority stuff on when to have such things
load. I know for some reason debian just won't compile a lot of programs,
as the kernel source headers are messed up from most ways other more
popular distros like redhat and slackware use. I was thinking of getting a
CD of redhat, but where I checked wanted $170.00 for the server version,
the only one they sell.
 12:41 AM 10/15/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi:
>
>If I understand you correctly, you want to be able to listen to shoutcast
>servers and windows media servers via IP masquerading.  This works
>already.  Perhaps windows media could work better (I'm not sure), but it
>does work.  Shoutcast works fine already.  Realaudio works better with the
>raudio ipmasq module, but it can work without it.  A lot of the time, you
>can deal with this stuff pretty easily.  IP masquerading works fine without
>modification for protocols where the replies come back on the same port
>number as the requests.  This is how IP masquerading works in the first
>place.  If it comes back on some other port, the firewall has no way of
>knowing that that packet is meant for the windows machine.  But you can
>deal with this.  If it's a simple matter of port forwarding, you can use
>something like ipmasqadm to do this.  Here's a solution I used to enable
>buddy phone:
>
>ipmasqadm portfw -a -P udp -L `ipofif ppp0` 701 -R picard.home 701
>
>Can't remember what the -a does, RTFM for ipmasqadm if you want to
>know.  -p sets the protocol (tcp or udp).  -l sets the local IP
>address.  In this case, I call a neat little script that obtains the IP
>address of the specified interface.  This is just a shell script that comes
>with debian's ipmasq package, so let me know if you want it.  -r is the
>remote IP address, that is, the machine to which the port should be
>forwarded, which is picard.home (the windows machine).  The 701 is the port
>number.  So I'm saying here, please forward all UDP packets received on
>port 701 of my PPP0 interface to my windows machine on the same port.
>
>Geoff.
>
>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Well, I just run that command on its own when I want buddy phone to work,
but you could probably put it in one of several places.  Probably putting
it in its own script and putting it somewhere in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d would bre
as good as anywhere else.

As for compilation under debian, I'm still waiting to hear from you what
won't compile and what the errors are.  I've had so few things not compile
that I could probably count them on one hand.  You can generally get around
compilation problems by making sure you've got everything the program wants
before starting.

Geoff.


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ICQ number 43634701

Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

That's just it, the readme doesn't say what I need, I just kind of got
debian going by downloading the files from the speakup site, through a
buggy install, putting things in, and choosing packages I usually used.
It's some game I was trying to compile, errors come with the functions
getsockname, getpeername, and listen. I'm running kernel 2.2.15, something
I believe that it can't find which function it wants, or something weird I
don't understand. I've been trying in zipspeak now, only to find out 7.1
doesn't give me headers in /usr/src/linux/include. The directory is there,
but only has the asound files.
At 02:09 PM 10/16/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi:
>
>Well, I just run that command on its own when I want buddy phone to work,
>but you could probably put it in one of several places.  Probably putting
>it in its own script and putting it somewhere in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d would bre
>as good as anywhere else.
>
>As for compilation under debian, I'm still waiting to hear from you what
>won't compile and what the errors are.  I've had so few things not compile
>that I could probably count them on one hand.  You can generally get around
>compilation problems by making sure you've got everything the program wants
>before starting.
>
>Geoff.
>
>
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>ICQ number 43634701
>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Kirk Wood]

> That's just it, the readme doesn't say what I need, I just kind of got
> debian going by downloading the files from the speakup site, through a
> buggy install, putting things in, and choosing packages I usually used.
> It's some game I was trying to compile, errors come with the functions

A few observations:
1.  A buggy install can hardly be considered a fair representation of a
distribution or operating system. (That goes for any of them including
winblows.)

2.  When you take the oportunity to choose which packages you need, you
take the chance you chose worngly. Unless you are ready to suffer the
consequences, you should accept some choices made for you. At least the
current version of Debian offers to setup a basic system for you.

3.  When you give "details" that amount to "some game" gave some errors
with functions you are not giving useful information. First, it is
possible someone here knows the game and why you got errors (like that it
requires some often uninstalled package or something). Second the exact
message can sometimes actually reveal the problem. This only works if the
error is known. Even if the error doesn't get as specific as "you forgot
to add the whatzit to the whereisit." it may mean something to those
offering to help.

4.  Until you are quite comfortable I would recomend picking one and
staying with it for awhile. Learn the ins and outs. First time out of the
box accept the defaults. Without some reason saying otherwise you should
trust that the people spending hours and hours of their time putting
things together had some small amount of knowledge and reason for choosing
the way they did. If you can't accept that then just start with the
information on making your own distribution. Of course if you are that
capable, you probably don't need my lengthy comments.


=======
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Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

Re: network configuration problem

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Note I haven't read all this thread yet so you might have heard this
already.

OK, 2 seperate problems here.  If you'd done

man getsockname
man getpeername
man listen

You would have noticed that they're all in sys/socket.h or, more
accurately, /usr/include/sys/sock.h.  And now girls and boys, a neat debian
trick.  If you type:

dpkg --search /usr/include/sys/socket.h

you will discover that this file lives in the libc6-dev package.  This is
a pretty crucial package if you want to compile stuff under debian.

The other one about /usr/src/linux/<whatever> can be solved by grabbing a
linux kernel source and dumping it there.

Geoff.


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ICQ number 43634701

Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

Cool, the error was a conflicting types error, I think, how fun using vi
and putting /* in front of all these declarations in a file called comm.c.
Then I get undefined crypt or something like that in some game specific files.
I was thinking seeing zipspeak has more sane defaults, I'd try it, and
installed linuxinc.tgz to fix somewhat, but still had the same thing
happen. I guess the base install of debian didn't give me near as much as
the base of zipspeak did, and I never knew what package a program wants. I
guess they assume you have a standard system like that presented when
logging in to most isp's.

At 10:25 PM 10/17/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi:
>
>Note I haven't read all this thread yet so you might have heard this
>already.
>
>OK, 2 seperate problems here.  If you'd done
>
>man getsockname
>man getpeername
>man listen
>
>You would have noticed that they're all in sys/socket.h or, more
>accurately, /usr/include/sys/sock.h.  And now girls and boys, a neat debian
>trick.  If you type:
>
>dpkg --search /usr/include/sys/socket.h
>
>you will discover that this file lives in the libc6-dev package.  This is
>a pretty crucial package if you want to compile stuff under debian.
>
>The other one about /usr/src/linux/<whatever> can be solved by grabbing a
>linux kernel source and dumping it there.
>
>Geoff.
>
>
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>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Not surprising you got undefined errors if you commented stuff out.  Tell
me what it is you're trying to compile and I'll go grab the source and see
if it compiles right over here.

Geoff.


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ICQ number 43634701

Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

Oh, it's a mud program, wanted to try this online creation
thing,ftp.game.org/pub/mud/diku/merc/rom/rot/rot1.4wolc.tar.gz
The trouble was I was trying make > make.log to make a log, but it made an
empty file, their faq told me that if I commented this function out, it
should work. There was no crypt in what I commented out, just those 3
functions that don't work right.

At 08:23 PM 10/18/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi:
>
>Not surprising you got undefined errors if you commented stuff out.  Tell
>me what it is you're trying to compile and I'll go grab the source and see
>if it compiles right over here.
>
>Geoff.
>
>
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>ICQ number 43634701
>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

Actually, what it did was make me select by task, but as I've learned, that
one must know what tasks, and additional packages are needed, as since I
may have aborted and tried other things seeing I was getting device o
resource busy when the rescue files were copied, and had to take the kernel
I used and move it to /target/vmlinuz manually, something may have messed
up. The reason I'm thinking about something different is that I can just
accept defaults mins x-windows and have what I need. I know I could compile
out of a former shell account just fine, problem is I no longer have that.
Now that I've edited and commented out the errored functions, I get
undefined stuff with crypt, wherever I get that from.
At 03:42 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> That's just it, the readme doesn't say what I need, I just kind of got
>> debian going by downloading the files from the speakup site, through a
>> buggy install, putting things in, and choosing packages I usually used.
>> It's some game I was trying to compile, errors come with the functions
>
>A few observations:
>1.  A buggy install can hardly be considered a fair representation of a
>distribution or operating system. (That goes for any of them including
>winblows.)
>
>2.  When you take the oportunity to choose which packages you need, you
>take the chance you chose worngly. Unless you are ready to suffer the
>consequences, you should accept some choices made for you. At least the
>current version of Debian offers to setup a basic system for you.
>
>3.  When you give "details" that amount to "some game" gave some errors
>with functions you are not giving useful information. First, it is
>possible someone here knows the game and why you got errors (like that it
>requires some often uninstalled package or something). Second the exact
>message can sometimes actually reveal the problem. This only works if the
>error is known. Even if the error doesn't get as specific as "you forgot
>to add the whatzit to the whereisit." it may mean something to those
>offering to help.
>
>4.  Until you are quite comfortable I would recomend picking one and
>staying with it for awhile. Learn the ins and outs. First time out of the
>box accept the defaults. Without some reason saying otherwise you should
>trust that the people spending hours and hours of their time putting
>things together had some small amount of knowledge and reason for choosing
>the way they did. If you can't accept that then just start with the
>information on making your own distribution. Of course if you are that
>capable, you probably don't need my lengthy comments.
>
>
>=======
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>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Kirk Wood]

To correct a buggy install, you really should back up your data and start
over. Clean the slate (format the drive) and install fresh. I just
installed Debian and you can install with defaults minus X. Give me your
address and I will even send a CD to you for use. Then you should only
need the boot and root disks. I am sure someone here can help make sure
you have the right images for those.


=======
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Re: network configuration problem

[Brent Harding]

I just took the speakup ones, the ones off the ftp site. I'm sure it may
have been buggy because of how things may have downloaded. I bet that
install was the remnants of 2.1 mixed with the frozen base system. I'm not
real sure which images I had chosen, but I got my own kernel from taking
.config from the kernel-image-2.2.15 and patching speakup in, but didn't
know what to turn off to shrink kernel size, as the compile claimed a
bigger than 560 or whatever limit k on the size.
At 03:40 PM 10/17/00 -0500, you wrote:
>To correct a buggy install, you really should back up your data and start
>over. Clean the slate (format the drive) and install fresh. I just
>installed Debian and you can install with defaults minus X. Give me your
>address and I will even send a CD to you for use. Then you should only
>need the boot and root disks. I am sure someone here can help make sure
>you have the right images for those.
>
>
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>
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Re: network configuration problem

[Geoff Shang]

Hi Brent:

It *will* work just fine.  The ETH0 and PPP0 thing is handled by the
gateway machine's routing table.  The table would be configured so that
your local network is stipulated as being the range of private addresses
you use, and that the rest should go through your PPP0 interface.  This is
what is set up on my machine.  This way, your routing table will see
packets that come from your network that are destined for the outside world
and pass them on, and IP masquerading will make sure that reply packets get
passed back to the originating machine.  Then all you need to do is to tell
the other machines on your network that they need to use your routing inux
box as the gateway.

Geoff.




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ICQ number 43634701

Re: network configuration problem

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Well I'll be darned. There it is, large as life, along the right side toward
the back! Life is looking up. The moon must be in moron these days!

Chuck

On 2000-10-12 speakup@braille.uwo.ca said:
   >Chuck,
   >Most externals have a knob on the outside to adjust volume that way
   >at the amp side. Then you can adjust from nothing to the loudness
   >dictated by the l instruction.
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Re: network configuration problem

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Hey, Frankie -

Many thanks for those modem tips. I think you have put my finger on it that
time! I will let you iknow what happens.

Chuck

Re: network configuration problem

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Kirk W. and Kerry -

Thanks for those suggestions. I am closer, with some additional information.
It turns out that it was an illusion that I had a satisfactory connection.
This new system uses an external modem on ttyS1 (com2) and it dials my ISP
okay, the chat script completes okay, and then it starts PAP authentication
but never brings the link up. Using "debug" in the ppp/options I get  series
of messages like this:

sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x######> <pcomp>

The seven #s are hex digits, the same for each attempt to connect, but
different from one attempt to the next. Finally one last message that says:

LCP: timeout sending config requests

and then I am disconnected. The "pap-secrets" file is okay, and pap
authentication works on other Linux systems and DOS systems with that ISP.
What in hell is this all about?  I am not sure where to begin to look,
except I think I will fire up minicom and see what the ISP's screen looks
like directly.

Kerry - sorry this is an indirect reply to your message, but my addressbook
is very skimpy and your message disappeared before I could reply to it.

Chuck.

Re: network configuration problem

[Frank J. Carmickle]

Oh yes I know what this problem is.  You need to set your modem to use
hardware handshaking.  There are a few more things that you should set
also let me give you a list.

b0 e1 f1 m1 q0 v1 x4 y0
&a3 &b1 &c1 &d2 &g0 &h1 &i0 &k1 &m4 &n0 &p0 &r2 &s0 &t25 &u22 &y1

These are just my settings and they may be not what you need.  I am using
a usrobotics sportster externel 56k.  The command to see your settings for
usrs is "ati4".  To see help on the usrs "at&at&$". 

HTH
Frank


On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> 
> Kirk W. and Kerry -
> 
> Thanks for those suggestions. I am closer, with some additional information.
> It turns out that it was an illusion that I had a satisfactory connection.
> This new system uses an external modem on ttyS1 (com2) and it dials my ISP
> okay, the chat script completes okay, and then it starts PAP authentication
> but never brings the link up. Using "debug" in the ppp/options I get  series
> of messages like this:
> 
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x######> <pcomp>
> 
> The seven #s are hex digits, the same for each attempt to connect, but
> different from one attempt to the next. Finally one last message that says:
> 
> LCP: timeout sending config requests
> 
> and then I am disconnected. The "pap-secrets" file is okay, and pap
> authentication works on other Linux systems and DOS systems with that ISP.
> What in hell is this all about?  I am not sure where to begin to look,
> except I think I will fire up minicom and see what the ISP's screen looks
> like directly.
> 
> Kerry - sorry this is an indirect reply to your message, but my addressbook
> is very skimpy and your message disappeared before I could reply to it.
> 
> Chuck.
> 
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Re: network configuration problem

[Kerry Hoath]

Ok well for a start make sure chat -v is active and watch the messages file.
If it is saying "serial connection established" that may be the case as far
as chat is concerned but in fact your isp might not agree.
Most isps these days just require you to get to a connect prompt so the
last line of my chat script is
CONNECT \d\c
expect connect wait 1 second and go off  into ppp land.
The isp then validates you with pap only no need to chat with the login and
passsword bits of the isp, this is what most win9x boxes do unless they have
a special dialing script.

Regards, Kerry.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 07:17:16PM +0000, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> 
> Kirk W. and Kerry -
> 
> Thanks for those suggestions. I am closer, with some additional information.
> It turns out that it was an illusion that I had a satisfactory connection.
> This new system uses an external modem on ttyS1 (com2) and it dials my ISP
> okay, the chat script completes okay, and then it starts PAP authentication
> but never brings the link up. Using "debug" in the ppp/options I get  series
> of messages like this:
> 
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x######> <pcomp>
> 
> The seven #s are hex digits, the same for each attempt to connect, but
> different from one attempt to the next. Finally one last message that says:
> 
> LCP: timeout sending config requests
> 
> and then I am disconnected. The "pap-secrets" file is okay, and pap
> authentication works on other Linux systems and DOS systems with that ISP.
> What in hell is this all about?  I am not sure where to begin to look,
> except I think I will fire up minicom and see what the ISP's screen looks
> like directly.
> 
> Kerry - sorry this is an indirect reply to your message, but my addressbook
> is very skimpy and your message disappeared before I could reply to it.
> 
> Chuck.
> 
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network configuration problem

[Charles Hallenbeck]

I am attempting to configure Slackware 7.1 for dialup connections to my ISP
and am having an unexpected problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated -
I have RTFM and have checked everything I can think of!

My dialup sequence owrks fine - I get connected to my ISP - the scripts
"ppp-go" and "ppp-off" work okay, and in fact as root I can run "ppp-go -d"
for demand dialing and that seems to work too. The problem is, I cannot seem
to make use of the ISP's domain name servers. I have not yet created a user
account, but as root I ought to be able to use ftp, but always get a long
delay followed by "host name lookup failure" I never had that problem with
my old Slackware 4.0 distribution and have compared the configuration files
between the 7.1 and 4.0 versions - they seem identical, permissions and all.
I must be overlooking something but cannot think what. Any of you Slackers
with ideas, I would sure like to hear from you - off list if this is too far
afield...

Chuck.

PS - this message comes to you courtesy of - nettamer and DOS! Yuck!

Re: network configuration problem

[Kirk Wood]

I am not a Slackware person but I would first check the host.conf file to
make sure it is setup to look to the DNS. I would also add a host in the
hosts file to check that it is found that way. Also ping your DNS server
to make sure you really have connectivity. (I have seen connections that
look fine except you just can't get any packets to or from the
internet.) From there I would check resolv.conf to make sure it has your
DNS servers listed correctly.

-- 
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
------------------

It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.

Re: network configuration problem

[Frank J. Carmickle]

Hi Chuck.

Can you ping an ip?  I am guessing that you cannot.  I had trouble
figuring out how to get the routing to work with slackware 7.  I am using
it successfully now.  Not sure what   it was that was a problem.  But we
need to know weather or not the default gateway is correct from the
routing table.  To see this type route.  

As far as dns goes you would want something in your resolv.conf that looks
like this.

search octothorp.org
nameserver 63.224.68.1

I am just using this as an example because I believe speakup.octothorp.org
is currently in the shop...  Sorry Bill.  I am thinking that maybe it's a
ppp problem or maybe even a problem that bind isn't working?  Well let us
know more details.

HTH
Frank

 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> 
> I am attempting to configure Slackware 7.1 for dialup connections to my ISP
> and am having an unexpected problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated -
> I have RTFM and have checked everything I can think of!
> 
> My dialup sequence owrks fine - I get connected to my ISP - the scripts
> "ppp-go" and "ppp-off" work okay, and in fact as root I can run "ppp-go -d"
> for demand dialing and that seems to work too. The problem is, I cannot seem
> to make use of the ISP's domain name servers. I have not yet created a user
> account, but as root I ought to be able to use ftp, but always get a long
> delay followed by "host name lookup failure" I never had that problem with
> my old Slackware 4.0 distribution and have compared the configuration files
> between the 7.1 and 4.0 versions - they seem identical, permissions and all.
> I must be overlooking something but cannot think what. Any of you Slackers
> with ideas, I would sure like to hear from you - off list if this is too far
> afield...
> 
> Chuck.
> 
> PS - this message comes to you courtesy of - nettamer and DOS! Yuck!
> 
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