email programs and filters

email programs and filters

[Chris Nestrud]

Hello list.

It seems that the last major step to converting to linux is what to do with 
my email. I'll describe how things are working now, and perhaps someone can 
give me some suggestions on how to convert this to linux.

I'm getting mail from several different accounts, and processing it with 
Eudora. Each of my mailing lists has a filter, so mail from each list is 
put into its own folder/group. The appropriate from address is used when I 
reply to a message received by a certain account. Mail which doesn't match 
one of these filters is put inn a misc folder for such mail, but the 
correct from: address is still used. This is accomplished with different 
"personalities" in Eudora.

I've found a program which will convert eudora mailboxes to unix mbox 
format. I've experimented some with procmail, and it looks like this would 
be the best way to filter incoming mail as I have it filtered with eudora.

The only real question remaining is which MUA to use. I need one that will 
base the replying From: address on the message being replied to. I've 
looked at pine and mutt, but unless I've missed something (which is quite 
possible) neither seem to have this feature.

Any suggestions on how I can get all of this working?

Thanks,
Chris

Re: email programs and filters

[cpt.kirk]

Actually, you are looking for two questions in one. The MTA is actually
what will send out the email and place it into you mailbox when it comes
in. The two most popular are Sendmail and Qmail in that order. I recomend
you consider Qmail as it is less likely to leave security holes.

The other is what email program to use. Since I only use a single address
most of the time I just use Pine. Now an option would be to setup a
different account on your machine for the different email accounts. Then
qmail can be configured to set you email address accordingly. But this
makes you login to each account to check the mail for that account. That
isn't so bad though as you can keep them all open and even do other things
with virtual consoles.

To use virtual consoles, you can press Alt and a function key. Most
installations have 6 by default. Each console operated independantly from
the others.

Kirk Wood
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Re: email programs and filters

[Chris Nestrud]

I have sendmail installed currently, but I also like qmail. It's much 
easier to actually configure. I just haven't actually gotten around to 
installing it. If I can't find something amazing to do with filtering and 
such, to get everything working with one account, I'll go with the 'several 
accounts' option.

And yes, virtual consoles are nice. I started with six, then added six 
more. <grin>

Chris

At 10:03 AM 4/3/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Actually, you are looking for two questions in one. The MTA is actually
>what will send out the email and place it into you mailbox when it comes
>in. The two most popular are Sendmail and Qmail in that order. I recomend
>you consider Qmail as it is less likely to leave security holes.
>
>The other is what email program to use. Since I only use a single address
>most of the time I just use Pine. Now an option would be to setup a
>different account on your machine for the different email accounts. Then
>qmail can be configured to set you email address accordingly. But this
>makes you login to each account to check the mail for that account. That
>isn't so bad though as you can keep them all open and even do other things
>with virtual consoles.
>
>To use virtual consoles, you can press Alt and a function key. Most
>installations have 6 by default. Each console operated independantly from
>the others.
>
>Kirk Wood
>Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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Re: email programs and filters

[Janina Sajka]

There's no need to set up separate accounts in order to have Pine read
several incoming mailboxes. 

Instead, you need procmail. That will slice and dice your incoming mail to
your heart's desire--the entire message can serve as the grist of your
filtering rules, if you like. The output can be sorted into separate
folders as you like, or piped to /dev/null for those pesky folks that send
junk mail. You can even group your mail folders in directories, if that's
helpful -- e.g. I have several web related folders inside a ~mail/web
directory and several unix related folders under a ~mail/unix directory.

Once you launch Pine you can use the $ directive to resort on the fly for
viewing by something other than your default sort order.

You can also define multiple personalities under Pine 4.21.

So, you're in good shape. There's just not much of anything you can do in
Eudora that you can't do even better under Linux with procmail and Pine.

PS: This includes taking mail on the road with your notebook computer. You
can have responses cued in a send folder ready to be transm9itted the next
time you connect your portable to the net. For this you'll want fetchmail,
though, and not sendmail or qmail.


				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net

Re: email programs and filters

[Tommy Moore]

Yeah, but from what I've seen I allways have the problem of when I go to
read these folders I allways get get the last message first instead of my
first unread message.

Re: email programs and filters

[Janina Sajka]

This has to be a sorting option setting. Each mail "folder" is really only
a file where new mail get's cat'd onto the end. So, it's not anything
intrinsic to the filing system.


				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net


On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Tommy Moore wrote:

> Yeah, but from what I've seen I allways have the problem of when I go to
> read these folders I allways get get the last message first instead of my
> first unread message.
> 
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Re: email programs and filters

[cpt.kirk]

Janina,

Can Pine allow you to send out using several email accounts though? That
is the limit I have found in its use. I have made several accounts come
into  single account and used Pine. But I have yet to find a way to send
out through several accounts.

Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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Re: email programs and filters

[Janina Sajka]

Yes, Pinedoes allow sending through several accounts. I use this all the
time. It even supports separate .signature files. I think this was new in
4.21, though.


				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net


On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 cpt.kirk@1tree.net wrote:

> Janina,
> 
> Can Pine allow you to send out using several email accounts though? That
> is the limit I have found in its use. I have made several accounts come
> into  single account and used Pine. But I have yet to find a way to send
> out through several accounts.
> 
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
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Re: email programs and filters

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

I've heard of some filtering capabilities in pine itself, but I've not
investigated this.  But there seem to be sound suggestions for this so I'll
leave that.  Pine will let you define roles which will allow you to define
the sender address, based on certain cryteria.  It's pretty cool.

Geoff.