* Janina's mail problem.
@ Kirk Wood
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
Well, I had an idea to try and recieved the following mail back. I am
forwarding it so it may help whoever can give Janina a solution.
=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
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To: cpt.kirk@1tree.net
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. The following address(es) failed:
janina@localhost.grg.afb.net:
unrouteable mail domain "localhost.grg.afb.net"
------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
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Received: from cpt.kirk (helo=localhost)
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:09:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Kirk Wood <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
X-Sender: cpt.kirk@ignatious
To: Janina Sajka <janina@localhost.grg.afb.net>
Subject: Re: wait a minute
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103221808140.1379-100000@toccata.grg.afb.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103222207340.28546-100000@ignatious>
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Janina,
I have an idea to try. On most machines the first entry in the hosts file
is 127.0.0.1 localhost. What happens if you change this to your machine
name on the network? I realize there is reason to not leave it this way,
but it might lend to the end fix.
=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
Janina's mail problem Kirk Wood
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Ari Moisio
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
Hi, Kirk:
Thanks for the suggestion. I did as you suggested and temporarily moved
the top line of /etc/hosts down to be the second line, so that
toccata.grg.afb.net would be the first machine defined for address
127.0.0.1. Regretably, this did not do the trick. The log of a fetchmail
session is below.
RE your attempt to send to me directly on this machine, tthe grg.afb.net
domain is not resolvable. It is not registered anywhere, and has no name
server.
Here's the fetchmail session:
fetchmail: starting fetchmail 5.6.0 daemon
fetchmail: 5.6.0 querying mail232173.popserver.pop.net (protocol POP3) at Fös 23.Mar 2001, 09:17:22 EST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 at wodc7ps1.ffx.ops.us.uu.net ready: Please see http://www.us.uu.net/support/usepolicy/ for Acceptable Use Policy.
fetchmail: POP3> USER mail232173
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for mail232173.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK mail232173 has 0 messages (0 octets).
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0 0
fetchmail: No mail for mail232173 at mail232173.popserver.pop.net
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK wodc7ps1.ffx.ops.us.uu.net signing off
fetchmail: not swapping UID lists, no UIDs seen this query
fetchmail: Query status=1 (NOMAIL)
fetchmail: 5.6.0 querying 208.36.95.171 (protocol POP3) at Fös 23.Mar 2001, 09:17:26 EST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK QPOP (version 2.53) at helen.afb.net starting.
fetchmail: POP3> USER janina
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Password required for janina.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK janina has 2 messages (10383 octets).
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2 10383
fetchmail: POP3> LAST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 0 is the last read message.
2 messages for janina at 208.36.95.171 (10383 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2 messages (10383 octets)
fetchmail: POP3< 1 8265
fetchmail: POP3< 2 2118
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 8265 octets
reading message 1 of 2 (8265 octets)
About to rewrite Reply-To: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Rewritten version is Reply-To: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
About to rewrite Sender: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Rewritten version is Sender: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
About to rewrite From: Alan Paganelli <alanandsuzanne@EARTHLINK.NET>
Rewritten version is From: Alan Paganelli <alanandsuzanne@EARTHLINK.NET>
About to rewrite To: MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Rewritten version is To: MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 toccata.grg.afb.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:17:33 -0500
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-toccata.grg.afb.net Hello toccata.grg.afb.net [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 5.0.0 Access denied
fetchmail: SMTP> RSET
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.0.0 Reset state
fetchmail: Saved error is still 550
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 toccata.grg.afb.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:17:34 -0500
fetchmail: SMTP> HELO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 toccata.grg.afb.net Hello toccata.grg.afb.net [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<FETCHMAIL-DAEMON@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 5.0.0 Access denied
not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 2
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2118 octets
reading message 2 of 2 (2118 octets)
About to rewrite Reply-To: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Rewritten version is Reply-To: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
About to rewrite Sender: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Rewritten version is Sender: "MIDI-MAG: Blind folks and their use of MIDI"
<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
About to rewrite From: jim turri <jturri@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Rewritten version is From: jim turri <jturri@WAM.UMD.EDU>
About to rewrite To: MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Rewritten version is To: MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<MIDI-MAG@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 5.0.0 Access denied
fetchmail: SMTP> RSET
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.0.0 Reset state
fetchmail: Saved error is still 550
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 toccata.grg.afb.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2/8.11.2; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:17:35 -0500
fetchmail: SMTP> HELO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 toccata.grg.afb.net Hello toccata.grg.afb.net [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<FETCHMAIL-DAEMON@localhost>
fetchmail: SMTP< 550 5.0.0 Access denied
not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Pop server at helen.afb.net signing off.
fetchmail: not swapping UID lists, no UIDs seen this query
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 2.0.0 toccata.grg.afb.net closing connection
fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file.
fetchmail: fetchmail: sleeping at Fös 23.Mar 2001, 09:17:35 EST
fetchmail: terminated with signal 2
fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file.
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Kirk Wood wrote:
> Well, I had an idea to try and recieved the following mail back. I am
> forwarding it so it may help whoever can give Janina a solution.
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:09:24 -0600
> From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@1tree.net>
> To: cpt.kirk@1tree.net
> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. The following address(es) failed:
>
> janina@localhost.grg.afb.net:
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>
> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
>
> Return-path: <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
> Received: from cpt.kirk (helo=localhost)
> by ignatious with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
> id 14gIt9-0007VL-00
> for <janina@localhost.grg.afb.net>; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:09:23 -0600
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:09:23 -0600 (CST)
> From: Kirk Wood <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
> X-Sender: cpt.kirk@ignatious
> To: Janina Sajka <janina@localhost.grg.afb.net>
> Subject: Re: wait a minute
> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0103221808140.1379-100000@toccata.grg.afb.net>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103222207340.28546-100000@ignatious>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Janina,
>
> I have an idea to try. On most machines the first entry in the hosts file
> is 127.0.0.1 localhost. What happens if you change this to your machine
> name on the network? I realize there is reason to not leave it this way,
> but it might lend to the end fix.
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Ari Moisio
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ari Moisio @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
Janina Sajka 23.03.01:
HI Janina.
Make sure localhost resolves 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.0.1 resolves
localhost with nothin trailing. Some distributions, Redhat iirc lacks a
period after
127.0.0.1 localhost
in /etc/hosts and it makes resolver add it's own idea about domain of
'localhost'. Try adding that period if it is not there..
HTH
>Hi, Kirk:
>Thanks for the suggestion. I did as you suggested and temporarily moved
>the top line of /etc/hosts down to be the second line, so that
>toccata.grg.afb.net would be the first machine defined for address
>127.0.0.1. Regretably, this did not do the trick. The log of a fetchmail
>session is below.
...ei rommi flunssaan auta mutta ompahan mukavampi sairastaa...
--
Mr. Ari Moisio, Niittykatu 7, 41160 Tikkakoski, +358-40-5055239
ari.moisio@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/arimo PGP-keyID: 0x3FAF0F05
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Ari Moisio
@ ` Janina Sajka
` philwh
` Ari Moisio
0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
Hi, Ari:
Yes, nslookup 127.0.0.1 yields name = localhost.
and nslookup localhost yields address 127.0.0.1
However, and here's the problem, I think:
nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net yields:
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
> Janina Sajka 23.03.01:
>
> HI Janina.
>
> Make sure localhost resolves 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.0.1 resolves
> localhost with nothin trailing. Some distributions, Redhat iirc lacks a
> period after
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> in /etc/hosts and it makes resolver add it's own idea about domain of
> 'localhost'. Try adding that period if it is not there..
>
> HTH
>
> >Hi, Kirk:
> >Thanks for the suggestion. I did as you suggested and temporarily moved
> >the top line of /etc/hosts down to be the second line, so that
> >toccata.grg.afb.net would be the first machine defined for address
> >127.0.0.1. Regretably, this did not do the trick. The log of a fetchmail
> >session is below.
>
>
> ...ei rommi flunssaan auta mutta ompahan mukavampi sairastaa...
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
@ ` philwh
` Janina Sajka
` Ari Moisio
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: philwh @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Janina, what doesyour /etc/resolv.conf file look like?
phil
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 12:30:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Hi, Ari:
>
> Yes, nslookup 127.0.0.1 yields name = localhost.
>
> and nslookup localhost yields address 127.0.0.1
>
> However, and here's the problem, I think:
>
> nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net yields:
>
> Server: 127.0.0.1
> Address: 127.0.0.1#53
>
> ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
>
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
>
> > Janina Sajka 23.03.01:
> >
> > HI Janina.
> >
> > Make sure localhost resolves 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.0.1 resolves
> > localhost with nothin trailing. Some distributions, Redhat iirc lacks a
> > period after
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost
> > in /etc/hosts and it makes resolver add it's own idea about domain of
> > 'localhost'. Try adding that period if it is not there..
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > >Hi, Kirk:
> > >Thanks for the suggestion. I did as you suggested and temporarily moved
> > >the top line of /etc/hosts down to be the second line, so that
> > >toccata.grg.afb.net would be the first machine defined for address
> > >127.0.0.1. Regretably, this did not do the trick. The log of a fetchmail
> > >session is below.
> >
> >
> > ...ei rommi flunssaan auta mutta ompahan mukavampi sairastaa...
> >
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
>
> Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
> http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
>
> Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
` philwh
@ ` Ari Moisio
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ari Moisio @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
Janina Sajka 24.03.01:
> ...
>However, and here's the problem, I think:
>
>nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net yields:
>
>Server: 127.0.0.1
>Address: 127.0.0.1#53
>
>** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
Hmm... would it help if you put something like
127.0.0.1 localhost. toccata.grg.afb.net.
to /etc/hosts. After this resolver should be able to resolve that name
to localhost. (Check it with 'host', 'nslookup' will use only bind
daemon, not entire resolv library.)
Did i remember corretcly you had problems with incoming mail. There
may be other solutions for this problem. One is define sendmail w-macron
to include toccata.grg.afb.net so it will consider it a local
domain. Not sure about sendmail 'cos i switched to qmail after two years
of desperate:>
--
Mr. Ari Moisio, Niittykatu 7, 41160 Tikkakoski, +358-40-5055239
ari.moisio@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/arimo PGP-keyID: 0x3FAF0F05
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` philwh
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Kirk Wood
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, Phil:
Here's my /etc/resolv.conf:
search grg.afb.net
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 198.6.1.1
nameserver 198.6.1.2
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 philwh@gate.net wrote:
> Janina, what doesyour /etc/resolv.conf file look like?
> phil
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 12:30:10PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Hi, Ari:
> >
> > Yes, nslookup 127.0.0.1 yields name = localhost.
> >
> > and nslookup localhost yields address 127.0.0.1
> >
> > However, and here's the problem, I think:
> >
> > nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net yields:
> >
> > Server: 127.0.0.1
> > Address: 127.0.0.1#53
> >
> > ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
> >
> > > Janina Sajka 23.03.01:
> > >
> > > HI Janina.
> > >
> > > Make sure localhost resolves 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.0.1 resolves
> > > localhost with nothin trailing. Some distributions, Redhat iirc lacks a
> > > period after
> > > 127.0.0.1 localhost
> > > in /etc/hosts and it makes resolver add it's own idea about domain of
> > > 'localhost'. Try adding that period if it is not there..
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > >Hi, Kirk:
> > > >Thanks for the suggestion. I did as you suggested and temporarily moved
> > > >the top line of /etc/hosts down to be the second line, so that
> > > >toccata.grg.afb.net would be the first machine defined for address
> > > >127.0.0.1. Regretably, this did not do the trick. The log of a fetchmail
> > > >session is below.
> > >
> > >
> > > ...ei rommi flunssaan auta mutta ompahan mukavampi sairastaa...
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
> >
> > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
> > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
> >
> > Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Ari Moisio
@ ` Janina Sajka
` John Covici
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
> Hmm... would it help if you put something like
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost. toccata.grg.afb.net.
>
> to /etc/hosts. After this resolver should be able to resolve that name
> to localhost. (Check it with 'host', 'nslookup' will use only bind
> daemon, not entire resolv library.)
That is what I would expect, but it isn't happening, and I don't know why.
Here's the top of /etc/hosts:
127.0.0.1 localhost toccata.grg.afb.net
127.0.0.1 toccata.grg.afb.net toccata
And here's the output of nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net:
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
@ ` John Covici
` Steve Holmes
` Kirk Wood
2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: John Covici @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
I think you have to have a real ip address to do with your name --
either a static one to use with ppp, or a dynamic one assigned via ppp
-- static is better as you can put it in your host file and then if
your machine is not named localhost your problems should be solved.
This is my $0.02.
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
>
> > Hmm... would it help if you put something like
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost. toccata.grg.afb.net.
> >
> > to /etc/hosts. After this resolver should be able to resolve that name
> > to localhost. (Check it with 'host', 'nslookup' will use only bind
> > daemon, not entire resolv library.)
>
> That is what I would expect, but it isn't happening, and I don't know why.
> Here's the top of /etc/hosts:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost toccata.grg.afb.net
> 127.0.0.1 toccata.grg.afb.net toccata
>
> And here's the output of nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net:
>
> Server: 127.0.0.1
> Address: 127.0.0.1#53
>
> ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
>
>
>
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
` John Covici
@ ` Steve Holmes
` Janina Sajka
` Christopher Moore
` Kirk Wood
2 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
My default hosts file which came from the Slackware 7.1 distro contains a
very interesting comment which might be causing some of your problems.
Let me attach my hosts file into this message including the original
comments. I do not name my machine on the 127.0.0.1 (loop back) address.
I put my machine name on the network address (192.168.1.1 in this case.
------ hosts file -------
#
# hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
# mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly
# used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
# On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
# "named" name server. Just add the names, addresses
# and any aliases to this file...
#
# By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen <agulbra@nvg.unit.no> says that 127.0.0.1
# should NEVER be named with the name of the machine. It causes problems
# for some (stupid) programs, irc and reputedly talk. :^)
#
# For loopbacking.
127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.1.1 lnx1.holmesgrown.com lnx1
192.168.1.2 steve.holmesgrown.com steve
192.168.1.3 winme1.holmesgrown.com winme1
192.168.1.4 lnx2.holmesgrown.com lnx2
# End of hosts.
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
>
> > Hmm... would it help if you put something like
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost. toccata.grg.afb.net.
> >
> > to /etc/hosts. After this resolver should be able to resolve that name
> > to localhost. (Check it with 'host', 'nslookup' will use only bind
> > daemon, not entire resolv library.)
>
> That is what I would expect, but it isn't happening, and I don't know why.
> Here's the top of /etc/hosts:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost toccata.grg.afb.net
> 127.0.0.1 toccata.grg.afb.net toccata
>
> And here's the output of nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net:
>
> Server: 127.0.0.1
> Address: 127.0.0.1#53
>
> ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Kirk Wood
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
What is in your host.conf file Janine? Lets check to make sure we are
looking in the right place for name resolution. Also are you using
sendmail, or another package such as exim?
=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Janina Sajka
` John Covici
` Steve Holmes
@ ` Kirk Wood
` John Covici
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From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
> And here's the output of nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net:
>
> Server: 127.0.0.1
> Address: 127.0.0.1#53
>
> ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
You can put whatever you want into hosts file and it will not change
this. nslookup is going to the dns server. (The dns server doesn't care
about your hosts file even if it is on your machine.) To make this change
you need to make a start of authority on the DNS server. The DNS-HOWTO has
all the nitty gritty details.
=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Kirk Wood
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, Kirk:
I'm using sendmail 8.11.2 (believe that's it). /etc/host.conf is:
order hosts,bind
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Kirk Wood wrote:
> What is in your host.conf file Janine? Lets check to make sure we are
> looking in the right place for name resolution. Also are you using
> sendmail, or another package such as exim?
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>
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Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Steve Holmes
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Christopher Moore
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
I think I started out like that, with only a 192.168 address for my fqdn
and only added it on 127 when things didn't work. I will try this again,
however, and will report.
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Steve Holmes wrote:
> My default hosts file which came from the Slackware 7.1 distro contains a
> very interesting comment which might be causing some of your problems.
> Let me attach my hosts file into this message including the original
> comments. I do not name my machine on the 127.0.0.1 (loop back) address.
> I put my machine name on the network address (192.168.1.1 in this case.
> ------ hosts file -------
> #
> # hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
> # mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly
> # used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
> # On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
> # "named" name server. Just add the names, addresses
> # and any aliases to this file...
> #
> # By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen <agulbra@nvg.unit.no> says that 127.0.0.1
> # should NEVER be named with the name of the machine. It causes problems
> # for some (stupid) programs, irc and reputedly talk. :^)
> #
>
> # For loopbacking.
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 192.168.1.1 lnx1.holmesgrown.com lnx1
> 192.168.1.2 steve.holmesgrown.com steve
> 192.168.1.3 winme1.holmesgrown.com winme1
> 192.168.1.4 lnx2.holmesgrown.com lnx2
>
>
> # End of hosts.
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Ari Moisio wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm... would it help if you put something like
> > >
> > > 127.0.0.1 localhost. toccata.grg.afb.net.
> > >
> > > to /etc/hosts. After this resolver should be able to resolve that name
> > > to localhost. (Check it with 'host', 'nslookup' will use only bind
> > > daemon, not entire resolv library.)
> >
> > That is what I would expect, but it isn't happening, and I don't know why.
> > Here's the top of /etc/hosts:
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost toccata.grg.afb.net
> > 127.0.0.1 toccata.grg.afb.net toccata
> >
> > And here's the output of nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net:
> >
> > Server: 127.0.0.1
> > Address: 127.0.0.1#53
> >
> > ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.html
Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp
Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/technology/accessapp.html
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Steve Holmes
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Christopher Moore
1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup List
You should take a look at the masqmail package. It is designed for dialup
machines not permanently connected to the internet. I've had some success
with it, and it's much easier than trying to get into the heads of the
authors of sendmail.
73, Chris w1gm@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Kirk Wood
@ ` John Covici
` Kirk Wood
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: John Covici @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
What you need to do to fix the nslookup is to have your isp change
your dns and mx records.
If they won't do that for you get another isp.
Also, they may need to change their host tables also.
You can use dig to find out what you have now.
Kirk Wood <cpt.kirk@1tree.net> writes:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > And here's the output of nslookup toccata.grg.afb.net:
> >
> > Server: 127.0.0.1
> > Address: 127.0.0.1#53
> >
> > ** server can't find toccata.grg.afb.net.: NXDOMAIN
>
> You can put whatever you want into hosts file and it will not change
> this. nslookup is going to the dns server. (The dns server doesn't care
> about your hosts file even if it is on your machine.) To make this change
> you need to make a start of authority on the DNS server. The DNS-HOWTO has
> all the nitty gritty details.
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` John Covici
@ ` Kirk Wood
` w1gm
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Wood @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
On 3 Apr 2001, John Covici wrote:
> What you need to do to fix the nslookup is to have your isp change
> your dns and mx records.
>
> If they won't do that for you get another isp.
This is actually a bit more involved with that. The domain in question
belongs to her employer. To properly update the reference would require
action by them. I don't think quitting a job over this issue would be
prudent.
=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
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* Re: Janina's mail problem.
` Kirk Wood
@ ` w1gm
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: w1gm @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I think you should take a look at masqmail. It's designed for machines
not permanently connected to the internet.
--
73, Chris w1gm@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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