ins and keypad enter

ins and keypad enter

[Deedra Waters]

     Ok, now I'm a little confused...I use lynx for a web browser which
tracks a little strange but it's livable. basically it speaks the line
before and the current like when I use the arrows to move up and down to
read the screen... pine also does the same thing when I move threw
messages which is a little confusing at first but I've learned to just
sorta deal with it...

     When I was using the make menuconfig option to recompile my kernel
yesterday I had the same problem accept that when I'd read current line
it'd not read the current line at all and would just say blank or
something to that effect.

     Kerk said that if I turned off the speech using ins keypad enter it'd
track a lot better... I'm confused now, because if I do that and then use
the arrow keys to move around in say for example lynx, it doesn't talk at
all when I move... I want to know what the difference is then? If I go to
recompile the kernel tomorrow and I use the arrow keys and it doesn't talk
when I move up and down ect, how is this going to work?

Re: ins and keypad enter

[Amanda Lee]

Be sure that your config for pine has
"showcursor" checked
Also when you bring-up lynx, use -showcurssor
This should enable you to track links more effectively.

Can also put this in your lynx config so that you don't have to enter it
manually each time.

Amanda Lee


On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Deedra Waters wrote:

>      Ok, now I'm a little confused...I use lynx for a web browser which
> tracks a little strange but it's livable. basically it speaks the line
> before and the current like when I use the arrows to move up and down to
> read the screen... pine also does the same thing when I move threw
> messages which is a little confusing at first but I've learned to just
> sorta deal with it...
>
>      When I was using the make menuconfig option to recompile my kernel
> yesterday I had the same problem accept that when I'd read current line
> it'd not read the current line at all and would just say blank or
> something to that effect.
>
>      Kerk said that if I turned off the speech using ins keypad enter it'd
> track a lot better... I'm confused now, because if I do that and then use
> the arrow keys to move around in say for example lynx, it doesn't talk at
> all when I move... I want to know what the difference is then? If I go to
> recompile the kernel tomorrow and I use the arrow keys and it doesn't talk
> when I move up and down ect, how is this going to work?
>
>
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pine and lynx

[Amanda Lee]

I mis-quoted the syntax:

for pine:

press m to go to main menu;
press c for configuration
find by using ctrl-w show-cursor
press <enter> to toggle the check mark beside this entry;
press e to exit and y to save the changes.

If you generally bring up lynx manually, type:

lynx -show_cursor url

Sorry to get off topic here but have encountered  others who aren't
 familiar with this and it generally improves tracking of links.

Amanda Lee

Re: ins and keypad enter

[Tommy Moore]

Also another thing that helps out a lot is to turn on the numbering of
links so that when there's a link you'll know it.
Heh.

Tommy

Re: ins and keypad enter

[Kirk Reiser]

You were asking about make menuconfig.  My recommendation was for make
menuconfig and only make menuconfig.  It seems obvious to me that if
you turn off the speech output to get better tracking then you best
know how to use the say line feature to read what is on the line you
are tracking.

I don't recommend necessarily turning off speech output for lynx or
pine or any other packages.  I do however recommend that you and any
one else learn how to use the package before compiling a kernel.  It
isn't rocket science.

  Kirk

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e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

re: ins and keypad enter

[Gregory Nowak]

Bare in mind that lynx and pine and most of that other stuff doesn't use xdialoge.  Pine and lynx will have to wait until the cursoring problem gets fully solved.  As for now, lynx is not all that hard to navigate in.
Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@tampabay.rr.com
>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:02:10 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: ins and keypad enter

>     Ok, now I'm a little confused...I use lynx for a web browser which
>tracks a little strange but it's livable.  basically it speaks the line
>before and the current like when I use the arrows to move up and down to
>read the screen...  pine also does the same thing when I move threw
>messages which is a little confusing at first but I've learned to just
>sorta deal with it...

>     When I was using the make menuconfig option to recompile my kernel
>yesterday I had the same problem accept that when I'd read current line
>it'd not read the current line at all and would just say blank or
>something to that effect.

>     Kerk said that if I turned off the speech using ins keypad enter it'd
>track a lot better...  I'm confused now, because if I do that and then use
>the arrow keys to move around in say for example lynx, it doesn't talk at
>all when I move...  I want to know what the difference is then? If I go to
>recompile the kernel tomorrow and I use the arrow keys and it doesn't talk
>when I move up and down ect, how is this going to work?


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Re: ins and keypad enter

[Kerry Hoath]

Amazingly enough; setting show_cursor in lynx
will allow speakup to track the cursor in forms and on
buttons. Check your options menu or for a quick test
use the -show_cursor option.

Regards, Kerry.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:46:48PM -0400, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Bare in mind that lynx and pine and most of that other stuff doesn't use xdialoge.  Pine and lynx will have to wait until the cursoring problem gets fully solved.  As for now, lynx is not all that hard to navigate in.
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@tampabay.rr.com
> >To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:02:10 -0400 (EDT)
> >Subject: ins and keypad enter
> 
> >     Ok, now I'm a little confused...I use lynx for a web browser which
> >tracks a little strange but it's livable.  basically it speaks the line
> >before and the current like when I use the arrows to move up and down to
> >read the screen...  pine also does the same thing when I move threw
> >messages which is a little confusing at first but I've learned to just
> >sorta deal with it...
> 
> >     When I was using the make menuconfig option to recompile my kernel
> >yesterday I had the same problem accept that when I'd read current line
> >it'd not read the current line at all and would just say blank or
> >something to that effect.
> 
> >     Kerk said that if I turned off the speech using ins keypad enter it'd
> >track a lot better...  I'm confused now, because if I do that and then use
> >the arrow keys to move around in say for example lynx, it doesn't talk at
> >all when I move...  I want to know what the difference is then? If I go to
> >recompile the kernel tomorrow and I use the arrow keys and it doesn't talk
> >when I move up and down ect, how is this going to work?
> 
> 
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Re: ins and keypad enter

[Gregory Nowak]

Yes, I already use that feature.
Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Kerry Hoath <kerry@gotss.net
>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:12:47 +0800
>Subject: Re: ins and keypad enter

>Amazingly enough; setting show_cursor in lynx
>will allow speakup to track the cursor in forms and on
>buttons.  Check your options menu or for a quick test
>use the -show_cursor option.

>Regards, Kerry.
>On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:46:48PM -0400, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>> Bare in mind that lynx and pine and most of that other stuff doesn't use xdialoge.  Pine and lynx will have to wait until the cursoring problem gets fully solved.  As for now, lynx is not all that hard to navigate in.
>> Greg



>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@tampabay.rr.com
>>>To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:02:10 -0400 (EDT)
>>>Subject: ins and keypad enter

>>>     Ok, now I'm a little confused...I use lynx for a web browser which
>>>tracks a little strange but it's livable.  basically it speaks the line
>>>before and the current like when I use the arrows to move up and down to
>>>read the screen...  pine also does the same thing when I move threw
>>>messages which is a little confusing at first but I've learned to just
>>>sorta deal with it...

>>>     When I was using the make menuconfig option to recompile my kernel
>>>yesterday I had the same problem accept that when I'd read current line
>>>it'd not read the current line at all and would just say blank or
>>>something to that effect.

>>>     Kerk said that if I turned off the speech using ins keypad enter it'd
>>>track a lot better...  I'm confused now, because if I do that and then use
>>>the arrow keys to move around in say for example lynx, it doesn't talk at
>>>all when I move...  I want to know what the difference is then? If I go to
>>>recompile the kernel tomorrow and I use the arrow keys and it doesn't talk
>>>when I move up and down ect, how is this going to work?


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