help for a newbie

help for a newbie

[Danny Keogh]

Ok guys after a bit of mucking around I've decided to go the the Debian 
linux distribution but I've run into a pretty major problem.  I have no 
idea what to download to get speakup up and running.  I've tried using Matt 
Campbell's look at linux series to get started but obviously since that was 
made there's been a few changes to the linux-speakup.org ftp site and 
nothing seems to be documented.

So my question is what do I download.  There's nothing on that site to 
indicate which boot disk is for a doubletalk internal or any other 
synthesizer.  They all seem to have really helpfull names like Base-10.bin 
or something incredibly useless like that.  The kernal files Matt was 
talking about don't seem to exist in any form.  When I try to get to the 
disks using the web site I get a 404 error because it's linking to a non 
existant index file.
If anyone can help me with this I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Danny Keogh
ICQ:  72503517
mailto:dwkeogh@optushome.com.au

Re: help for a newbie

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, well, the old boot disk system no longer applies to speakup. You see in
a few cvs versions back speakup was updated to be able to switch synths via
the boot prompt.
For example when I want to load speakup to run a Red Hat 7.2 setup I type:
linux text speakup_synth=dectlk
Then, my dectalk express is loaded. I also could have typed:
linux text speakup_synth=bns
Then, I would have been able to load my bns or braille blazer as a synth.
So basically, get the standard speakup enabled boot disk, and by passing
some commands to the kernel via the boot prompt you can load any of the
supported synths even a null synth if you do not want speech.
I mostly have used Slackware  and Red Hat, but I am sure the same idea
applies to Debian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Keogh" <dwkeogh@optushome.com.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:47 AM
Subject: help for a newbie


> Ok guys after a bit of mucking around I've decided to go the the Debian
> linux distribution but I've run into a pretty major problem.  I have no
> idea what to download to get speakup up and running.  I've tried using
Matt
> Campbell's look at linux series to get started but obviously since that
was
> made there's been a few changes to the linux-speakup.org ftp site and
> nothing seems to be documented.
>
> So my question is what do I download.  There's nothing on that site to
> indicate which boot disk is for a doubletalk internal or any other
> synthesizer.  They all seem to have really helpfull names like Base-10.bin
> or something incredibly useless like that.  The kernal files Matt was
> talking about don't seem to exist in any form.  When I try to get to the
> disks using the web site I get a 404 error because it's linking to a non
> existant index file.
> If anyone can help me with this I'd really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Danny Keogh
> ICQ:  72503517
> mailto:dwkeogh@optushome.com.au
>
>
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Re: help for a newbie

[Buddy Brannan]

Actually, the filenames are very useful if you know what you're
looking for. As I've just done this, these instructions should get you
started:

1. Go to ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/disks/debian

You can either go to images-1.44 and get floppies, or get the larger
files and install from your hard drive off a DOS partition. (I'll tell
you about the disks.)

The disks you'll need are in the images-1.44 directory under the main
debian directory:
rescue.bin
root.bin
driver-1.bin
driver-2.bin
driver-3.bin
driver-4.bin

You'll also need rawrite.exe from the dosutils directory.

>From DOS (might work from a DOS window, but better to do under DOS)
use rawrite to put these disk images onto six blank floppy disks.

You'll also need base2-2.tgz somewhere. I don't know where it can be
had via http from braille.uwo.ca, but I happen to have it on my
system...so no worries, we'll get there in a second.

Anyway, to boot the system, stick your rescue disk in your drive and
turn your computer on. When the drive stops spinning, type
linux synth=something
where something is the synthesizer designator. (For example, if you
have a Doubletalk LT, use
linux speakup_synth=ltlk

If you need to know which synth designator you need, we can tell you,
but we need to know which one you have. Press enter after you type
this, then just follow the instructions as they come up. It's fairly
self-exlanatory.

When you get to the bit where it installs the base system (fairly far
down the lit), I have it at
http://dalek.dhs.org

Just put that in when you select to install your base system over
http, and set the port as port 80.

Course, if you want a bootable CD instead, you can get (from the same
/pub/speakup/disks/debian directory) debian2.2-speakup.iso, which is a
bootable, speakup-enabled Debian install CD. You'd boot it in similar
fashion to the above-mentioned rescue floppy.

Is this clear as mud?
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ICQ: 36621210            | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes

Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Will Smith]

Hello all,

The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
that will work in dos and linux?

Thanks for any leads!

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com

Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Yeh, will, go to www.linux-doc.org and you will find the howtos.  Look
under hardware and modems.  It will give you lists of what's
compatible.  I think the web address is right, but it's the Linux
Documentation Project.

Ann P.

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Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Will Smith]

Hi Ann,

Thanks.  I tried using google with multi terms but didn't find  what I was
looking for.

I'll take a look.

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Yeh, will, go to www.linux-doc.org and you will find the howtos.  Look
> under hardware and modems.  It will give you lists of what's
> compatible.  I think the web address is right, but it's the Linux
> Documentation Project.
>
> Ann P.
>
> --
> 			Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net 			ICQ Number:  33006854
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
>
>
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Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Jason]

Dumb question: do you have an unused serial port?

if so I'd just reccomend an external.

otherwise just avoid anything with "win" or "DSP" in the name.

I remember an old one from Creative, called "Modem Blaster Flash 56". It was 
plug-and-play, but not a winmodem (it worked in a pentium 120, winmodems 
won't), but it was out several years ago.


On Sunday October 28, 2001 07:21 pm, you wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
> computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
> that will work in dos and linux?
>
> Thanks for any leads!
>
> Will
> wilsmith@iglou.com

Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Will Smith]

Hi there,

I prefer external modems too, but as with many current systems there's
only one serial port, to be used by the Lite Talk.

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Jason wrote:

> Dumb question: do you have an unused serial port?
>
> if so I'd just reccomend an external.
>
> otherwise just avoid anything with "win" or "DSP" in the name.
>
> I remember an old one from Creative, called "Modem Blaster Flash 56". It was
> plug-and-play, but not a winmodem (it worked in a pentium 120, winmodems
> won't), but it was out several years ago.
>
>
> On Sunday October 28, 2001 07:21 pm, you wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
> > computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
> > that will work in dos and linux?
> >
> > Thanks for any leads!
> >
> > Will
> > wilsmith@iglou.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Kirk Wood]

US Robotics makes a modem that is PCI and can be used in Linux. I don't
know the model number though.

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	- President George Bush

Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Tony Baechler]

Hi.   Be very careful about this since almost all newer modems, especially
56 K are Winmodems and will not work well (if at all) with Linux.
However, I have seen a new setting in the 2.4.12 kernel about this, but
since this computer does not have a modem at all I did not look into it.
However, there is one known brand which works with DOS, so I am sure it
would work with Linux.  I think it is US Robotics, now made by 3Com.  Can
someone confirm this?  I have one which I could consider selling but it is
a little expensive.  That is why Winmodems are so popular, because they
are cheap and use your computer's resources.

Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Gregory Nowak]

Yes, this the US Roobotics 56k voice pci modem.
It works very well for me.
Greg


On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:18:51PM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote:
> Hi.   Be very careful about this since almost all newer modems, especially
> 56 K are Winmodems and will not work well (if at all) with Linux.
> However, I have seen a new setting in the 2.4.12 kernel about this, but
> since this computer does not have a modem at all I did not look into it.
> However, there is one known brand which works with DOS, so I am sure it
> would work with Linux.  I think it is US Robotics, now made by 3Com.  Can
> someone confirm this?  I have one which I could consider selling but it is
> a little expensive.  That is why Winmodems are so popular, because they
> are cheap and use your computer's resources.
> 
> 
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Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Gene Collins]

Will, US Robotics makes a pci 56k modem.  I just bought one about 6  weeks
ago, and it works under Linux just fine.  Sorry, I can't remember the
model number, and it's at home and I'm at work.  But check out the US
Robotics web site.  I think it's http://www.usrobotics.com/ but it has
been a while since I was on the site.

Gene Collins

>Hello all,
>
>The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
>computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
>that will work in dos and linux?
>
>Thanks for any leads!
>
>Will
>wilsmith@iglou.com
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Will Smith]

Hi there,

Thanks for this lead.  I have also found that www.mwave.com offers a
smartcom model that supports dos and linux for around $36 plus shipping.

I am amazed that there are so many windows modems and so few models that
have enough onboard hardware to handle dos and linux set-ups.

Thanks to all for your help!

Will
wilsmith@iglou.com

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Gene Collins wrote:

> Will, US Robotics makes a pci 56k modem.  I just bought one about 6  weeks
> ago, and it works under Linux just fine.  Sorry, I can't remember the
> model number, and it's at home and I'm at work.  But check out the US
> Robotics web site.  I think it's http://www.usrobotics.com/ but it has
> been a while since I was on the site.
>
> Gene Collins
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
> >computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
> >that will work in dos and linux?
> >
> >Thanks for any leads!
> >
> >Will
> >wilsmith@iglou.com
> >
> >
> >
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>
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Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Gregory Nowak]

This is because winmodems are cheaper to make, and
the average individual could care less about the difference between a hardware and winmodem.
Greg


On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 09:21:03AM -0500, Will Smith wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Thanks for this lead.  I have also found that www.mwave.com offers a
> smartcom model that supports dos and linux for around $36 plus shipping.
> 
> I am amazed that there are so many windows modems and so few models that
> have enough onboard hardware to handle dos and linux set-ups.
> 
> Thanks to all for your help!
> 
> Will
> wilsmith@iglou.com
> 
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Gene Collins wrote:
> 
> > Will, US Robotics makes a pci 56k modem.  I just bought one about 6  weeks
> > ago, and it works under Linux just fine.  Sorry, I can't remember the
> > model number, and it's at home and I'm at work.  But check out the US
> > Robotics web site.  I think it's http://www.usrobotics.com/ but it has
> > been a while since I was on the site.
> >
> > Gene Collins
> >
> > >Hello all,
> > >
> > >The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
> > >computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
> > >that will work in dos and linux?
> > >
> > >Thanks for any leads!
> > >
> > >Will
> > >wilsmith@iglou.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Speakup mailing list
> > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Looking for a 56k PCI modem for linux, dos

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, 3com makes a Linux pci modem, and it can be purchaced at any Best Buy, 
Comp USA, or Wiz store.
They call it the US Robotics Linux modem, and it works great! 
Many of the pci modems I've looked at are Windows modems, but this one is 
Linux all the way.
It will cost you about $75.00 US, but it is worth the price because I'd 
rather get one that is known to work than to try one that requires some 
pos Windows driver.


On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Will Smith wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> The subject line  says it all, and I'm going to use a fairly new
> computer with only PCI slots available.  Any suggested hardware modems
> that will work in dos and linux?
> 
> Thanks for any leads!
> 
> Will
> wilsmith@iglou.com
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>