yi.org and secondary mx

yi.org and secondary mx

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
	In the yi.org account editor, it mensions a secondary mx. What is
this and what does it do? Does it mean secondary mailbox? Can I, for
instance, redirect email to my ISP address when it's unable to reach my
machine directly through yi.org? I'm online as much as possible, but if
I'm not online in linux, and mail comes to me, what happens? I guess if
it's for no longer than 4 hours it's ok, otherwise it bounces? I'm a
newbie to this dns stuff.

Re: yi.org and secondary mx

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Jacob:  The secondary mx and any others for that matter are to do
exactly what you suspected.  You set the priority at say zero for your
primary and maybe 5 or ten for your secondary and then if your primary
machine isn't up, it gets the host on the other end to move onto the
next machine. in thhe priority ranking.

  Kirk

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e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: yi.org and secondary mx

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi,

MX stands for mail exchanger, and is an IP address of a machine that is
actually running mail server software.  You can't use this to forward to
another e-mail address.

Regards.

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Hi
> 	In the yi.org account editor, it mensions a secondary mx. What is
> this and what does it do? Does it mean secondary mailbox? Can I, for
> instance, redirect email to my ISP address when it's unable to reach my
> machine directly through yi.org? I'm online as much as possible, but if
> I'm not online in linux, and mail comes to me, what happens? I guess if
> it's for no longer than 4 hours it's ok, otherwise it bounces? I'm a
> newbie to this dns stuff.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: yi.org and secondary mx

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi kirk
	Do you know how to set this up? Yi.org doesn't seem to offer a
priority field. Also, would I just enter my ISP email address in that
field?


On 6 Jul 2000, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> Hi Jacob:  The secondary mx and any others for that matter are to do
> exactly what you suspected.  You set the priority at say zero for your
> primary and maybe 5 or ten for your secondary and then if your primary
> machine isn't up, it gets the host on the other end to move onto the
> next machine. in thhe priority ranking.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
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Re: yi.org and secondary mx

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Jacob:  Well I have a little experience with mx records.  You need
be to add or have someone else add additional mx records to your dns
entry.

You don't put your other email address in it.  You put the name or ip
address of another machine which accepts mail on your behalf.  So for
example:

        IN      MX      0       speech.braille.uwo.ca
        IN      MX      10      julian.uwo.ca

Is sort of what my dns mx records look like.  The secondary machine
needs to know about your domain and be willing to accept mail for it.
If it does, the next time your machine attaches to that machine it
will pass off the mail it collected for you while your machine was
down.

Hope this helps.
  Kirk

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e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: yi.org and secondary mx

[brent harding]

It's the ability to have some host handle all mail for your domain when
you're off line. I don't know of any free ones that do it, but on the same
idea, I've got another question of whether it's easy or not. I'm wondering
if there is a free service that will give me a subdomain like
myhost.something.com and if people request port 80, 25, etc, to forward it
to an alternate port on my machine. I mean, for example,
mymachine.somehost.com port 80 forward automatically to
mymachine.somehost.com port 8000, so when port 80 or whatever port is
needed is requested, the client is automatically forwarded to the right
port. I don't have the money for corporate access accounts with cable or
dsl, and many block ports, but I'd like to be able to run my services off
of the connection easily so that the in bound port is on a nonblocked port
so things are as standard as possible, I was thinking of using the
convention of adding two zeros to the end of all port numbers to take
everything out of blocked range, easy for me to remember, but not easy to
get mail through or visit websites easily on nonstandard ports, thus the
need of forwarding, I may want to run cgis, so I probably will need control
of the system, especially admin scripts that I may use when I'm not at the
linux box so I can disable or restrict telnet to certain ips, which is hard
to do on a dynamic ip, maybe webmin or something to bring up the telnet
interface when I'm ready to use it, and shut it down when I'm through with
it, or various other interesting things, hosting them on someone else's
server would be difficult as they've got to be setuid, over the internet to
control my machine instead of their's, not only that I hate the ads and
proprietary clients many free providers use to upload, as the ftp servers
are often down, busy, or slow.

Re: yi.org and secondary mx

[Joseph Norton]

Let me add to the comments already given on this subject.

You can't use your ISP's mail server as your secondary MX, because that
server doesn't know about mail being sent to someone@yourmachine.yi.org
(just an example).  If you set this, anyone sending a message to your
machine while you were off-line would get a bounce message from their
server (or your isp's, depending upon configuration) explaining that they
don't forward mail to yourmachine.yi.org, or something like that.  The
only way this would work is if you could find a service which would spool
your mail for you when you were off-line.  I haven't done an exhaustive
search, but, from what I've seen so far, this isn't going to be
economical.  Note that it is possible, but, I saw one service which
charged $50 per month as a minimum (I think).  I verry much doubt you will
find a free spooling service that will work in conjunction with yi.org,
but, if you do, several of us probably would like to know about it.

Tzo seems to do a fair job about mail spooling and there service seems by
far the most economical if you are willing to pay.  See my earlier message
in the archives for details.

On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Hi
> 	In the yi.org account editor, it mensions a secondary mx. What is
> this and what does it do? Does it mean secondary mailbox? Can I, for
> instance, redirect email to my ISP address when it's unable to reach my
> machine directly through yi.org? I'm online as much as possible, but if
> I'm not online in linux, and mail comes to me, what happens? I guess if
> it's for no longer than 4 hours it's ok, otherwise it bounces? I'm a
> newbie to this dns stuff.

Timidity

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Gang:

Is anyone here using timidity? I rather expect someone must be?

My question is about what version I should install? Can I effectively use
the current 2.0.something version which requires GTK? Or should I snag
some historic version?

Thanks in advance.


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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net

Re: Timidity

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Janina -
I just checked my timidity and I see that it is 2.8.1, copyright 1999.
I have been using it for quite a few months and cannot recall whether it
asked me about GTK, which I do not have on this system anyway.
Hope that helps - Chuck.

On
Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Hi, Gang:
> 
> Is anyone here using timidity? I rather expect someone must be?
> 
> My question is about what version I should install? Can I effectively use
> the current 2.0.something version which requires GTK? Or should I snag
> some historic version?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 

My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182

Re: Timidity

[brent harding]

What does this program do? Is it like that tripwire file checking program?
I was thinking of installing that, as using dselect in debian reminded me
about that program I heard in some security document that I should have.
At 12:12 PM 7/9/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Janina -
>I just checked my timidity and I see that it is 2.8.1, copyright 1999.
>I have been using it for quite a few months and cannot recall whether it
>asked me about GTK, which I do not have on this system anyway.
>Hope that helps - Chuck.
>
>On
>Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
>> Hi, Gang:
>> 
>> Is anyone here using timidity? I rather expect someone must be?
>> 
>> My question is about what version I should install? Can I effectively use
>> the current 2.0.something version which requires GTK? Or should I snag
>> some historic version?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
>You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
>doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
>		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182
>
>
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Re: Timidity

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Hi Brent -
It is a midi player.
Chuck.


On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, brent harding wrote:

> What does this program do? Is it like that tripwire file checking program?
> I was thinking of installing that, as using dselect in debian reminded me
> about that program I heard in some security document that I should have.

My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182

Re: Timidity

[Janina Sajka]

It plays MIDI files.


On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, brent harding wrote:

> What does this program do? Is it like that tripwire file checking program?
> I was thinking of installing that, as using dselect in debian reminded me
> about that program I heard in some security document that I should have.
> At 12:12 PM 7/9/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Janina -
> >I just checked my timidity and I see that it is 2.8.1, copyright 1999.
> >I have been using it for quite a few months and cannot recall whether it
> >asked me about GTK, which I do not have on this system anyway.
> >Hope that helps - Chuck.
> >
> >On
> >Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Janina Sajka wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Gang:
> >> 
> >> Is anyone here using timidity? I rather expect someone must be?
> >> 
> >> My question is about what version I should install? Can I effectively use
> >> the current 2.0.something version which requires GTK? Or should I snag
> >> some historic version?
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> >My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
> >You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
> >doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
> >		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182
> >
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net

Re: Timidity

[Victor Tsaran]

I think, Timidity works with both GTK and command line environments. I can't
remember if they use different binaries though.
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 8:41 AM
Subject: Timidity


> Hi, Gang:
>
> Is anyone here using timidity? I rather expect someone must be?
>
> My question is about what version I should install? Can I effectively use
> the current 2.0.something version which requires GTK? Or should I snag
> some historic version?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Information Systems Research & Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> janina@afb.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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RE: yi.org and secondary mx

[Klarich, Terry]

You need to be aware of the fact that the remote host you configure as a
mail exchanger for your domain has to agree to this.  They will have to
configure their sendmail to receive and queue your mail.  Also, it is
considered polite to retrieve your mail on a regular basis.

I personally use fetchmail.  I have the domain of ki5zw.ampr.org.  My ISP
has agreed to queue mail for me.  My mx record for the ampr.org dns is
configured at ucsd.edu.  They are the primary for this domain.  I have been
doing this for years.  It works great.

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Schmude [mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:46 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: yi.org and secondary mx


Hi kirk
	Do you know how to set this up? Yi.org doesn't seem to offer a
priority field. Also, would I just enter my ISP email address in that
field?


On 6 Jul 2000, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> Hi Jacob:  The secondary mx and any others for that matter are to do
> exactly what you suspected.  You set the priority at say zero for your
> primary and maybe 5 or ten for your secondary and then if your primary
> machine isn't up, it gets the host on the other end to move onto the
> next machine. in thhe priority ranking.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 


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