Parted Not Found

Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

I downloaded Chris' latest release April 25, 2010 from:
 
http://the-brannons.com/tarch/
 
I am using the I686. I started the CD and everything was humming perfectly.
I typed "root" and logged in.
 
I tried to type parted/dev/sda but I kept getting a message: "The file or
directory does not exist." My only choice is to type /arch/setup.
 
I would like to partition the hard drive first. Any ideas?

Re: Parted Not Found

[Alonzo]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JP Jamous" <JP@Jepelsy.com>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:06 PM
Subject: Parted Not Found


>I downloaded Chris' latest release April 25, 2010 from:
>
> http://the-brannons.com/tarch/
>
> I am using the I686. I started the CD and everything was humming 
> perfectly.
> I typed "root" and logged in.
>
> I tried to type parted/dev/sda but I kept getting a message: "The file or
> directory does not exist." My only choice is to type /arch/setup.
>
> I would like to partition the hard drive first. Any ideas?
Use cfdisk or fdisk. Parted should b e thhere. just type
parted
then you will be presented with the program
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RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

Alonzo,

Thank you. It works perfectly. I take it that's a part of Linux? I am trying
to put 2 and 2 together here.

It looks to me like SpeakUp was integrated in the Kernel, but the rest is
all Linux commands. 

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On Behalf Of Alonzo
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:22 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Parted Not Found


----- Original Message -----
From: "JP Jamous" <JP@Jepelsy.com>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:06 PM
Subject: Parted Not Found


>I downloaded Chris' latest release April 25, 2010 from:
>
> http://the-brannons.com/tarch/
>
> I am using the I686. I started the CD and everything was humming 
> perfectly.
> I typed "root" and logged in.
>
> I tried to type parted/dev/sda but I kept getting a message: "The file or
> directory does not exist." My only choice is to type /arch/setup.
>
> I would like to partition the hard drive first. Any ideas?
Use cfdisk or fdisk. Parted should b e thhere. just type
parted
then you will be presented with the program
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> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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Re: Parted Not Found

[trev.saunders]

Hi,

yes, speakup is part of the kernel, but parted etc are just normal executables.
wrt your original problem you seem to have been missing the space between the name of the program (parted) and the argument, (/dev/sda the drive you wanted to partition).

HTH
Trev

Re: Parted Not Found

[trev.saunders]

Hi,

> You are correct. I typed help after accessing parted, but the help is more
> of a reminder. An Admin must know how the arguments work correctly.
> 
> I cannot seem to find a good tutorial on how to use parted or fdisk. I would
> like to learn the switches and what the various commands mean such as
> commas, slashes, etc.

you don't need to give commands arguments, if you don't give them, parted or fdisk will ask the questions one at a time like the following example.

you type resize.
parted replies what partition would you like to resize you enter 1
parted asks you how big you want make partition 1 be, and you say 40G
parted resizes the partition, and asks what you'd like to do next.
This is a rough sketch, its been a month or so since I needed to partition a disk.  I remember them being fairly self explanatory so long as you let it ask the questions instead of supplying arguments, but if you want a explanation, the gentoo handbook at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook.xml has a decent description of how to use fdisk in chapter 5.

> 
> My current problem is that I have an 80GB hard drive. I installed XP Pro SP3
> on it using a primary NTFS. Now, I want to resize that to make room for the
> ArchLinux installation. Resize seems my best bet, but it has so many
> arguments that must be entered correctly. I know I am diving too deep for a
> beginner, but I am only a beginner in Linux. I know the rest very well from
> administering Windows for the last 12 years.

Ok, I take it you didn't use the windows installer to set up partitions with a spare partition for linux?  Unfortunitely, that would have been slightly simpler, because ntfs support in linux isn't the simplest thing.

What I believe you'll have to do is use ntfsresize to resize the ntfs filesystem that windows uses, then use parted to shrink the partition that the ntfs filesystem was on, and make file system's on the new partitions for linux.

This will look something like the following:
1. #ntfsresize --size <new size>G /dev/sda1 # note that <new size>G is the number of gigabytes you want the file system to be, where a gigabyte is 10^9, not 2^30
I would probably use about 40G for windows, maby 50 or 60 depending on my exact needs, in that case you would do ntfsresize --size 40G /dev/sda1 if windows is on the first partition of the first harddrive.
then use parted to resize that partition to 40G, and create new partitions for linux.

HTH
Trev
> 
> Any good tutorials or articles would be great. Bare with me folks. I will
> catch up very quickly. Thank you.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trev.saunders@gmail.com [mailto:trev.saunders@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 7:12 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; JP Jamous
> Subject: Re: Parted Not Found
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yes, speakup is part of the kernel, but parted etc are just normal
> executables.
> wrt your original problem you seem to have been missing the space between
> the name of the program (parted) and the argument, (/dev/sda the drive you
> wanted to partition).
> 
> HTH
> Trev
> 

RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

Thank you. I will definitely try those. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of trev.saunders@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:33 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Parted Not Found

Hi,

> You are correct. I typed help after accessing parted, but the help is 
> more of a reminder. An Admin must know how the arguments work correctly.
> 
> I cannot seem to find a good tutorial on how to use parted or fdisk. I 
> would like to learn the switches and what the various commands mean 
> such as commas, slashes, etc.

you don't need to give commands arguments, if you don't give them, parted or
fdisk will ask the questions one at a time like the following example.

you type resize.
parted replies what partition would you like to resize you enter 1 parted
asks you how big you want make partition 1 be, and you say 40G parted
resizes the partition, and asks what you'd like to do next.
This is a rough sketch, its been a month or so since I needed to partition a
disk.  I remember them being fairly self explanatory so long as you let it
ask the questions instead of supplying arguments, but if you want a
explanation, the gentoo handbook at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook.xml has a decent description
of how to use fdisk in chapter 5.

> 
> My current problem is that I have an 80GB hard drive. I installed XP 
> Pro SP3 on it using a primary NTFS. Now, I want to resize that to make 
> room for the ArchLinux installation. Resize seems my best bet, but it 
> has so many arguments that must be entered correctly. I know I am 
> diving too deep for a beginner, but I am only a beginner in Linux. I 
> know the rest very well from administering Windows for the last 12 years.

Ok, I take it you didn't use the windows installer to set up partitions with
a spare partition for linux?  Unfortunitely, that would have been slightly
simpler, because ntfs support in linux isn't the simplest thing.

What I believe you'll have to do is use ntfsresize to resize the ntfs
filesystem that windows uses, then use parted to shrink the partition that
the ntfs filesystem was on, and make file system's on the new partitions for
linux.

This will look something like the following:
1. #ntfsresize --size <new size>G /dev/sda1 # note that <new size>G is the
number of gigabytes you want the file system to be, where a gigabyte is
10^9, not 2^30 I would probably use about 40G for windows, maby 50 or 60
depending on my exact needs, in that case you would do ntfsresize --size 40G
/dev/sda1 if windows is on the first partition of the first harddrive.
then use parted to resize that partition to 40G, and create new partitions
for linux.

HTH
Trev
> 
> Any good tutorials or articles would be great. Bare with me folks. I 
> will catch up very quickly. Thank you.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trev.saunders@gmail.com [mailto:trev.saunders@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 7:12 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; JP Jamous
> Subject: Re: Parted Not Found
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yes, speakup is part of the kernel, but parted etc are just normal 
> executables.
> wrt your original problem you seem to have been missing the space 
> between the name of the program (parted) and the argument, (/dev/sda 
> the drive you wanted to partition).
> 
> HTH
> Trev
> 
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Re: Parted Not Found

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 09:32:41AM -0400, trev.saunders@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok, I take it you didn't use the windows installer to set up partitions with a spare partition for linux?  Unfortunitely, that would have been slightly simpler, because ntfs support in linux isn't the simplest thing.
> 
> What I believe you'll have to do is use ntfsresize to resize the ntfs filesystem that windows uses, then use parted to shrink the partition that the ntfs filesystem was on, and make file system's on the new partitions for linux.
> 
> This will look something like the following:
> 1. #ntfsresize --size <new size>G /dev/sda1 # note that <new size>G is the number of gigabytes you want the file system to be, where a gigabyte is 10^9, not 2^30
> I would probably use about 40G for windows, maby 50 or 60 depending on my exact needs, in that case you would do ntfsresize --size 40G /dev/sda1 if windows is on the first partition of the first harddrive.
> then use parted to resize that partition to 40G, and create new partitions for linux.

Yeah, it probably would have been a better idea to partition the disk
when installing windows in such a way, so that windows doesn't take the
whole drive. It's also worth mentioning that if you're going to
attempt what Trevor described above, you want to take a backup of the
drive, unless you don't mind the possibility of losing everything on
it, and starting everything, including windows from scratch. Come to
think of it, if starting from scratch is an option, I'd say you're
probably better off wiping the drive, and starting from scratch by
installing windows to a smaller partition that doesn't take the whole
disk. You don't need to create partitions on the rest of the disk,
leaving the part unused by windows unpartitioned is just fine, and I'd
say the best choice.

Greg


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RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this computer
has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.

It looks like one of those muscle cars without a hood and fenders. As long
as it runs, that's all I care about and she does a pretty good job.

What I found interesting is that you told me to leave the rest
unpartitioned. Does that mean ArchLinux would create a primary partition
upon installation?

Secondly, since it is a pain to take the hard drive out and hook it
externally to my other machine, is it possible to wipe the hard drive using
parted? I can then create a blank partition and throw the Windows image on
it. I assume RM 2 would delete it.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Parted Not Found

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 09:32:41AM -0400, trev.saunders@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok, I take it you didn't use the windows installer to set up partitions
with a spare partition for linux?  Unfortunitely, that would have been
slightly simpler, because ntfs support in linux isn't the simplest thing.
> 
> What I believe you'll have to do is use ntfsresize to resize the ntfs
filesystem that windows uses, then use parted to shrink the partition that
the ntfs filesystem was on, and make file system's on the new partitions for
linux.
> 
> This will look something like the following:
> 1. #ntfsresize --size <new size>G /dev/sda1 # note that <new size>G is 
> the number of gigabytes you want the file system to be, where a gigabyte
is 10^9, not 2^30 I would probably use about 40G for windows, maby 50 or 60
depending on my exact needs, in that case you would do ntfsresize --size 40G
/dev/sda1 if windows is on the first partition of the first harddrive.
> then use parted to resize that partition to 40G, and create new partitions
for linux.

Yeah, it probably would have been a better idea to partition the disk when
installing windows in such a way, so that windows doesn't take the whole
drive. It's also worth mentioning that if you're going to attempt what
Trevor described above, you want to take a backup of the drive, unless you
don't mind the possibility of losing everything on it, and starting
everything, including windows from scratch. Come to think of it, if starting
from scratch is an option, I'd say you're probably better off wiping the
drive, and starting from scratch by installing windows to a smaller
partition that doesn't take the whole disk. You don't need to create
partitions on the rest of the disk, leaving the part unused by windows
unpartitioned is just fine, and I'd say the best choice.

Greg


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Re: Parted Not Found

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Hi,

> I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this computer
> has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.

ok, unless you want to have fun fiddling with ntfs resize and parted I'd say re partition the disk and forget about the ntfs partition.  What I'd do is figure out how you'd ideally layout partition sizes, and use parted to set up the partition table according to you wishes, then once linux is installed, you can copy the windows image onto the desired partition.

FIrst to clear the old partition table just use rm with each partition you want to remove, then use create, and mkfs to make filesystems.

> What I found interesting is that you told me to leave the rest
> unpartitioned. Does that mean ArchLinux would create a primary partition
> upon installation?

I can't speak to the arch installer, but yes, when you went to install linux you'd be able to partition the free space as you liked.
 
> Secondly, since it is a pain to take the hard drive out and hook it
> externally to my other machine, is it possible to wipe the hard drive using
> parted? I can then create a blank partition and throw the Windows image on
> it. I assume RM 2 would delete it.
> 

yes, as above rm will delete the given partition.  then just setup the new partitioning scheme as you like, and copy the windows image.
It doesn't really matter here, but fyi unless you specifically ask it to parted won't touch the data on the drive, it'll just change the partition table that says were partitions start.  If you want to have some fun, I've seen this work, you can remove a partition from the table, and then put it back in the partition table and you'r data is still ok.  Noe though that actually destroying the data on the disk does trully destroy the data.


HTH
Trev

RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

Great! As soon as I am done with this client web site, I guess I have some
fun to do tonight. Thanks for the help. 

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On Behalf Of trev.saunders@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:24 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Parted Not Found

Hi,

> I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this 
> computer has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.

ok, unless you want to have fun fiddling with ntfs resize and parted I'd say
re partition the disk and forget about the ntfs partition.  What I'd do is
figure out how you'd ideally layout partition sizes, and use parted to set
up the partition table according to you wishes, then once linux is
installed, you can copy the windows image onto the desired partition.

FIrst to clear the old partition table just use rm with each partition you
want to remove, then use create, and mkfs to make filesystems.

> What I found interesting is that you told me to leave the rest 
> unpartitioned. Does that mean ArchLinux would create a primary 
> partition upon installation?

I can't speak to the arch installer, but yes, when you went to install linux
you'd be able to partition the free space as you liked.
 
> Secondly, since it is a pain to take the hard drive out and hook it 
> externally to my other machine, is it possible to wipe the hard drive 
> using parted? I can then create a blank partition and throw the 
> Windows image on it. I assume RM 2 would delete it.
> 

yes, as above rm will delete the given partition.  then just setup the new
partitioning scheme as you like, and copy the windows image.
It doesn't really matter here, but fyi unless you specifically ask it to
parted won't touch the data on the drive, it'll just change the partition
table that says were partitions start.  If you want to have some fun, I've
seen this work, you can remove a partition from the table, and then put it
back in the partition table and you'r data is still ok.  Noe though that
actually destroying the data on the disk does trully destroy the data.


HTH
Trev
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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 05:08:02PM -0400, JP Jamous wrote:
> I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this computer
> has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.

Interesting. How are you interacting with xp, over rdp, or some other
way? As for the rest of your questions, I think Trevor did a good job
answering them, and I have nothing to add.

Greg


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Re: Parted Not Found

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Hi,

this brings up a question I meant to ask, how do you flash the disk?  the one time I needed DD (copy arbitrary data between places) and had easiest access to windows, I found nothing even close to DD for windows, and ended up just finding a linux box.

Trev
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> > I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this computer
> > has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.
> 
> Interesting. How are you interacting with xp, over rdp, or some other
> way? As for the rest of your questions, I think Trevor did a good job
> answering them, and I have nothing to add.
> 
> Greg
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RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

Trev,


Get yourself both an IDE and SATA enclosures. You just need the box. Plug
the hard drive in and through USB plug it as an external drive to your
laptop and you are good to go.

If it is a desktop, you can use an IDE or a SATA cable. Just make sure with
the IDE you move the jumper to slave the hard drive.

On my LAN server, I have 2 internal hard drives. One has a primary partition
that runs the OS and all of my server applications. As to the other, I only
made it an extended partition and generated 4 logical partitions. So jumpers
here do not matter at all. The BIOS looks for the hard drive with the
primary partition where the MBR is. It ignores the rest.

I don't create primary partitions unless they are used for an OS. I always
create extended partition and slice it to as many logicals as I want.

However, with Linux now, I am even seeing much more possibilities that
require less hardware work. I just need to get to learn the system well as I
know Windows.

I would also recommend NLite if you want to make a Windows installation CD
without touching the keyboard through the installation.

I used to listen to the hard drive and memorize the screens. With NLite, I
boot the computer and run the business or program while Windows installs on
its own. By the time it is done, I have Windows, necessary drivers, and
domain set up. I just install JAWS and continue working.

I have a business here. I cannot waste precious time anymore listening to
the hard drive cranking, assume, and respond to all of the questions that
Windows ask.

I warn you though. NLite is a powerful software. You will damage a few CDs
or DVDs before you get the hang of it. Google it and check it out.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:09 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; Gregory Nowak
Subject: Re: Parted Not Found

Hi,

this brings up a question I meant to ask, how do you flash the disk?  the
one time I needed DD (copy arbitrary data between places) and had easiest
access to windows, I found nothing even close to DD for windows, and ended
up just finding a linux box.

Trev
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> > computer has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.
> 
> Interesting. How are you interacting with xp, over rdp, or some other 
> way? As for the rest of your questions, I think Trevor did a good job 
> answering them, and I have nothing to add.
> 
> Greg
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RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that after hooking the hard drive to the system,
you can use Norton ghost. I prefer Image for Windows. It is by far better
than ghost.

This way, you are not asked to restart the computer. The drive you want to
throw the image on is not controlled by Windows. You are in full control of
it.

Also, Image for Windows would image any partition to a TBI file without
asking to restart Windows. It saves the partition as an image and can even
validate it bite per bite if you want to get sensitive about your data. I
only do that with the server. 

Using the TBI viewer, you can view the whole image in Windows explorer and
extract any files or folders that you want. Image for Windows works on Linux
too if I am not wrong. It has a bootable disk for DOS and Linux. Check on
the manufacturer's site. It is one of the best pieces of software that I
bought.

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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of JP Jamous
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:48 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: Parted Not Found

Trev,


Get yourself both an IDE and SATA enclosures. You just need the box. Plug
the hard drive in and through USB plug it as an external drive to your
laptop and you are good to go.

If it is a desktop, you can use an IDE or a SATA cable. Just make sure with
the IDE you move the jumper to slave the hard drive.

On my LAN server, I have 2 internal hard drives. One has a primary partition
that runs the OS and all of my server applications. As to the other, I only
made it an extended partition and generated 4 logical partitions. So jumpers
here do not matter at all. The BIOS looks for the hard drive with the
primary partition where the MBR is. It ignores the rest.

I don't create primary partitions unless they are used for an OS. I always
create extended partition and slice it to as many logicals as I want.

However, with Linux now, I am even seeing much more possibilities that
require less hardware work. I just need to get to learn the system well as I
know Windows.

I would also recommend NLite if you want to make a Windows installation CD
without touching the keyboard through the installation.

I used to listen to the hard drive and memorize the screens. With NLite, I
boot the computer and run the business or program while Windows installs on
its own. By the time it is done, I have Windows, necessary drivers, and
domain set up. I just install JAWS and continue working.

I have a business here. I cannot waste precious time anymore listening to
the hard drive cranking, assume, and respond to all of the questions that
Windows ask.

I warn you though. NLite is a powerful software. You will damage a few CDs
or DVDs before you get the hang of it. Google it and check it out.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of trev.saunders@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:09 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; Gregory Nowak
Subject: Re: Parted Not Found

Hi,

this brings up a question I meant to ask, how do you flash the disk?  the
one time I needed DD (copy arbitrary data between places) and had easiest
access to windows, I found nothing even close to DD for windows, and ended
up just finding a linux box.

Trev
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> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 05:08:02PM -0400, JP Jamous wrote:
> > I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this 
> > computer has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.
> 
> Interesting. How are you interacting with xp, over rdp, or some other 
> way? As for the rest of your questions, I think Trevor did a good job 
> answering them, and I have nothing to add.
> 
> Greg
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Re: Parted Not Found

[trev.saunders]

Hi,

> Trev,
> 
> 
> Get yourself both an IDE and SATA enclosures. You just need the box. Plug
> the hard drive in and through USB plug it as an external drive to your
> laptop and you are good to go.
> 
> If it is a desktop, you can use an IDE or a SATA cable. Just make sure with
> the IDE you move the jumper to slave the hard drive.

yeah, I deal with the hard ware end all the time, and am good at copying daata between disks with linux machines.  The problem came when the machines immediately at hand all ran windows, I needed to copy the data from hard drive a to drive b, but couldn't find any thing for windows that would just copy the data, without caring about what that data was.  I had to just copy the data byte for byte, because there is no good windows drivers for linux file systems.  SO I solved this by soucking it up and going to a linux machine, pluging the drives into spare sata cables, and used DD to copy / image the drive, but a windows program that could do the ame thing as dd would be a nice thing to know about, and it seems like have something like that?

> 
> On my LAN server, I have 2 internal hard drives. One has a primary partition
> that runs the OS and all of my server applications. As to the other, I only
> made it an extended partition and generated 4 logical partitions. So jumpers
> here do not matter at all. The BIOS looks for the hard drive with the
> primary partition where the MBR is. It ignores the rest.
> 

Here is my experience as to how linux servers are often setup.  you use 3 disks for raid 5.  You partition each disk to use all but about 64 megs for the raid.  Finally you put /boot, where things neccessary for boot go on one of those 64 meg partitions, and then you install the boot loader to one of the drives.

> I don't create primary partitions unless they are used for an OS. I always
> create extended partition and slice it to as many logicals as I want.

I've basically just decided to forget partitions, and just use lvm, its a lot more flexible.

> 
> However, with Linux now, I am even seeing much more possibilities that
> require less hardware work. I just need to get to learn the system well as I
> know Windows.

yeah, you can do a lot of nice things.
 
> I would also recommend NLite if you want to make a Windows installation CD
> without touching the keyboard through the installation.
> 
> I used to listen to the hard drive and memorize the screens. With NLite, I
> boot the computer and run the business or program while Windows installs on
> its own. By the time it is done, I have Windows, necessary drivers, and
> domain set up. I just install JAWS and continue working.
> 
> I have a business here. I cannot waste precious time anymore listening to
> the hard drive cranking, assume, and respond to all of the questions that
> Windows ask.

interesting, does this work for the server os's two?  those are really the only ones I can see any use for right now.

Trev

Re: Parted Not Found

[Gregory Nowak]

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For floppies there's rawrite for windows. I haven't used that in a
very long time, so don't remember if it let's you write to any disk,
provided it has a drive letter, or if it just goes for the floppy
drive. I also remember there's a port of dd for windows, though I
don't remember how you get it, maybe it came with djgpp, maybe it's
possible to get a stand-alone exe. What I do remember about it, is
that it wasn't as useful as you'd expect. If you tried to write
something to a:, or com1, it would throw an error at you. I suspect
that's because it would need raw access to the destination, but I'm
not sure how you'd give it that under windows. Sorry I can't help more
than that.

Greg


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 06:08:41PM -0400, trev.saunders@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> this brings up a question I meant to ask, how do you flash the disk?  the one time I needed DD (copy arbitrary data between places) and had easiest access to windows, I found nothing even close to DD for windows, and ended up just finding a linux box.
> 
> Trev


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RE: Parted Not Found

[JP Jamous]

Greg,

I just use an external USB keyboard. As long as the video drivers are in, XP
and JAWS are happy campers.

I log on to my domain and everything too. Although Dell use to be very
specific about their BIOS, they are not anymore with the newer systems. So
if you don't have a PS2 keyboard or monitor plugged in, they do boot up
without complaining at all.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:00 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Parted Not Found

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 05:08:02PM -0400, JP Jamous wrote:
> I can afford losing the partition. I have an image of it. Plus this 
> computer has no screen nor keyboard. It is my testing machine.

Interesting. How are you interacting with xp, over rdp, or some other way?
As for the rest of your questions, I think Trevor did a good job answering
them, and I have nothing to add.

Greg


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