Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup

Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup

[Zachary Kline]

Hi All,
    I wonder if anybody has perhaps had any better luck with Ancient Domains 
of Mystery, or Adom, than I have.  It's a roguelike game which is available 
for Linux among other systems.
    My problem with it is that for whatever reason the messages appearing on 
the top line are run together when spoken, and sometimes aren't spoken at 
all.  This isn't the case in, say, Nethack.
    An example of how a message sounds to me would be: 
"Notwhileinthewilderness" or "Youneedspecialequipmenttoscalethosemountains." 
Granted, I can check for new messages at every turn, but I'd rather not have 
to do that, and it seems overly tedious.  I wonder if there's a simple 
explaination for why this is happening.
    For the record, I'm using Espeakup as my speech synthesizer with Speakup 
3.0.3 from Gentoo and Adom 1.1.1 binary, as sources aren't available.
Any help appreciated.
Best,
Zack.

Re: Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup

[luke]

That pressing together of words, happens in curses apps which do not 
redraw the spaces.  For example, if you read a page in lynx, and then 
press page down and just let speakup read, it will probably mix the word 
at the end of each line, with the first word on the next.  It will leave 
out words that appeared on the same position of the former page, I assume 
for the same reason.

Very annoying.

 On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi All,
>    I wonder if anybody has perhaps had any better luck with Ancient Domains of
> Mystery, or Adom, than I have.  It's a roguelike game which is available for
> Linux among other systems.
>    My problem with it is that for whatever reason the messages appearing on
> the top line are run together when spoken, and sometimes aren't spoken at all.
> This isn't the case in, say, Nethack.
>    An example of how a message sounds to me would be:
> "Notwhileinthewilderness" or "Youneedspecialequipmenttoscalethosemountains."
> Granted, I can check for new messages at every turn, but I'd rather not have
> to do that, and it seems overly tedious.  I wonder if there's a simple
> explaination for why this is happening.
>    For the record, I'm using Espeakup as my speech synthesizer with Speakup
> 3.0.3 from Gentoo and Adom 1.1.1 binary, as sources aren't available.
> Any help appreciated.
> Best,
> Zack.
> 
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Re: Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
    Since this issue seems to have a cause we can put a finger on, I wonder 
how easy it would be to fix?  (I'm not familiar enough with how Speakup and 
Ncurses work to try myself, but it seems a needless frustration to have to 
grapple with.  After all, the spaces are technically still there.)
Any thoughts?
Thanks much for the help,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "luke" <speakup@lists.tacticus.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup


> That pressing together of words, happens in curses apps which do not
> redraw the spaces.  For example, if you read a page in lynx, and then
> press page down and just let speakup read, it will probably mix the word
> at the end of each line, with the first word on the next.  It will leave
> out words that appeared on the same position of the former page, I assume
> for the same reason.
>
> Very annoying.
>
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, Zachary Kline wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>    I wonder if anybody has perhaps had any better luck with Ancient 
>> Domains of
>> Mystery, or Adom, than I have.  It's a roguelike game which is available 
>> for
>> Linux among other systems.
>>    My problem with it is that for whatever reason the messages appearing 
>> on
>> the top line are run together when spoken, and sometimes aren't spoken at 
>> all.
>> This isn't the case in, say, Nethack.
>>    An example of how a message sounds to me would be:
>> "Notwhileinthewilderness" or 
>> "Youneedspecialequipmenttoscalethosemountains."
>> Granted, I can check for new messages at every turn, but I'd rather not 
>> have
>> to do that, and it seems overly tedious.  I wonder if there's a simple
>> explaination for why this is happening.
>>    For the record, I'm using Espeakup as my speech synthesizer with 
>> Speakup
>> 3.0.3 from Gentoo and Adom 1.1.1 binary, as sources aren't available.
>> Any help appreciated.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> 

Re: Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup

[Tony Baechler]

Zachary Kline wrote:
>    Since this issue seems to have a cause we can put a finger on, I 
> wonder how easy it would be to fix?  (I'm not familiar enough with how 
> Speakup and Ncurses work to try myself, but it seems a needless 
> frustration to have to grapple with.  After all, the spaces are 
> technically still there.)


Hi,

While not an ideal solution, you can use ^L.  That will completely 
redraw the screen and might help.  It isn't a lot better than having to 
read the messages manually but since it completely redraws the screen, 
spaces should be seen as spaces and not run together.  I do that 
sometimes when I want to make sure I'm hearing what's actually on the 
screen.  If that doesn't help, perhaps it is using something other than 
space to separate words such as high ASCII or similar.

Re: Ancient Domains of Mystery with Speakup

[luke]

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Tony Baechler wrote:

> Zachary Kline wrote:
> >    Since this issue seems to have a cause we can put a finger on, I wonder
> > how easy it would be to fix?  (I'm not familiar enough with how Speakup and
> > Ncurses work to try myself, but it seems a needless frustration to have to
> > grapple with.  After all, the spaces are technically still there.)
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> While not an ideal solution, you can use ^L.  That will completely redraw the
> screen and might help.  It isn't a lot better than having to read the messages
> manually but since it completely redraws the screen, spaces should be seen as
> spaces and not run together.  I do that sometimes when I want to make sure I'm
> hearing what's actually on the screen.

Numpad plus will do that, as it reads full screen, and does not rely upon 
what is being drawn by the app.