* Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x @ Dietmar Segbert ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Dietmar Segbert @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello, i am using buster/sid with kernel 4.18.x and espeak. I have also tested to use my old apollo ii connected with an usb-to- serial-adapter with a ftdi-chip. modprobe speakup-apollo dev:/dev/ttyUSB0 load the modul, but the synthesizer will not speak. If i cat a string to /dev/ttyUSB0 the apollo II will speak. The volume ist not "0" and in sys/accessibility/speakup/synth i found "apollo". What can i do? Thanks for your help. Regards Dietmar Segbert ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x Dietmar Segbert @ ` Samuel Thibault ` Didier Spaier ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, Dietmar Segbert, le mar. 02 oct. 2018 18:21:00 +0000, a ecrit: > modprobe speakup-apollo dev:/dev/ttyUSB0 I don't think this is the way to pass options to modules, it should rather be insmod speakup-apollo dev=/dev/ttyUSB0 (note insmod, and '=') Could some people handle updating the speakup documentation to properly document how to use the dev parameter? (doing insmod by hand is fine for testing, but people should rather use a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/) Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x ` Samuel Thibault @ ` Didier Spaier ` Samuel Thibault ` Keith Barrett ` Dietmar Segbert 2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Didier Spaier @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On 10/7/18 8:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Could some people handle updating the speakup documentation to properly > document how to use the dev parameter? (doing insmod by hand is fine for > testing, but people should rather use a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/) Some people? Let me quote Ann Landers in: Ann Landers Column, Chicago Tribune, January 10, 1997: > *Whose Job Is It?* > This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody. > There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure Somebody would do it. > Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. > Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job. > Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it. > It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done. Didier ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x ` Didier Spaier @ ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Didier Spaier, le dim. 07 oct. 2018 20:50:01 +0200, a ecrit: > On 10/7/18 8:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Could some people handle updating the speakup documentation to properly > > document how to use the dev parameter? (doing insmod by hand is fine for > > testing, but people should rather use a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/) > > Some people? Yes, i.e. not me. I could do this, but that'd mean less time for me doing other things, that way fewer people can do than this documentation bit. Samuel > Let me quote Ann Landers in: > Ann Landers Column, Chicago Tribune, January 10, 1997: > > *Whose Job Is It?* > > This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody. > > There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure Somebody would do it. > > Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. > > Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job. > > Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it. > > It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done. > > Didier > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Samuel /* * [...] Note that 120 sec is defined in the protocol as the maximum * possible RTT. I guess we'll have to use something other than TCP * to talk to the University of Mars. * PAWS allows us longer timeouts and large windows, so once implemented * ftp to mars will work nicely. */ (from /usr/src/linux/net/inet/tcp.c, concerning RTT [retransmission timeout]) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x ` Samuel Thibault ` Didier Spaier @ ` Keith Barrett ` Frank Carmickle ` Dietmar Segbert 2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Keith Barrett @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On 07/10/18 19:33, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Dietmar Segbert, le mar. 02 oct. 2018 18:21:00 +0000, a ecrit: >> modprobe speakup-apollo dev:/dev/ttyUSB0 > > I don't think this is the way to pass options to modules, it should > rather be > > insmod speakup-apollo dev=/dev/ttyUSB0 > > (note insmod, and '=') > > Could some people handle updating the speakup documentation to properly > document how to use the dev parameter? (doing insmod by hand is fine for > testing, but people should rather use a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/) This has highlighted a couple of issues with speakup. I have had a recent issue with loss of speech in espeakup and have used an apollo. It seems impossible to unload the speakup_soft module and when the apollo is connected, alternative letters are spoken via espeak and the apollo. I believe this issue was reported on this list some time ago and I am now able to confirm the findings. Debian buster updated on 9th October 2018. There is also an issue whether espeak stops working randomly although speakup does not crash. > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x ` Keith Barrett @ ` Frank Carmickle 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Frank Carmickle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > On Oct 9, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote: > > > > On 07/10/18 19:33, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Hello, >> Dietmar Segbert, le mar. 02 oct. 2018 18:21:00 +0000, a ecrit: >>> modprobe speakup-apollo dev:/dev/ttyUSB0 >> I don't think this is the way to pass options to modules, it should >> rather be >> insmod speakup-apollo dev=/dev/ttyUSB0 >> (note insmod, and '=') >> Could some people handle updating the speakup documentation to properly >> document how to use the dev parameter? (doing insmod by hand is fine for >> testing, but people should rather use a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/) > > This has highlighted a couple of issues with speakup. > I have had a recent issue with loss of speech in espeakup and have used an apollo. > It seems impossible to unload the speakup_soft module and when the apollo is connected, alternative letters are spoken via espeak and the apollo. > > I believe this issue was reported on this list some time ago and I am now able to confirm the findings. > > Debian buster updated on 9th October 2018. > > There is also an issue whether espeak stops working randomly although speakup does not crash. I sent a backtrace to Samuel on the debian accessibility mailing list roughly three months ago. This is not an issue with buster specifically. It’s been alive and well for quite a while now on my system. I’ll start a new thread for others to look at the backtrace. --FC > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Apollo II and kernel 4.18.x ` Samuel Thibault ` Didier Spaier ` Keith Barrett @ ` Dietmar Segbert 2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Dietmar Segbert @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello Samuel, hello Listers, yesterday i spent some time, to test again. The Apollo II works with a usb-to-serial-adapter.. modprobe speakup_apollo dev=ttyUSB0 or insmod speakup_apollo dev=ttyUSB0 will do the job. modinfo speakup_apollo shows: ... param: dev:Set ... Thanks for your help. Regards Dietmar > samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org schrieb am 21.10.18: > Hello, > Dietmar Segbert, le mar. 02 oct. 2018 18:21:00 +0000, a ecrit: >> modprobe speakup-apollo dev:/dev/ttyUSB0 > I don't think this is the way to pass options to modules, it should > rather be > insmod speakup-apollo dev=/dev/ttyUSB0 > (note insmod, and '=') > Could some people handle updating the speakup documentation to properly > document how to use the dev parameter? (doing insmod by hand is fine for > testing, but people should rather use a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/) > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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