debian testing no speech after new install

debian testing no speech after new install

[lists]

Just installed debian testing from snapshot cd of 27th July.

I got speech throughout the install and all seemed to go well.

When booting for the first time after the install, I got no speech.

I believe the system is booting correctly, as I can shut it down with 
the halt command after logging in as root.

I am using hardware speech with an apollo.

So, anything I can try to get it talking and any one else had this 
issue.

When I get chance, will get someone to look for error messages but 
if I can get it talking in the mean time, that would be good.

Thanks

Keith

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  After you login as root, have you tried running
modprobe speakup_apollo

My first guess is the module wasn't added to /etc/modules.  
If the modprobe command gets you speech, then you can figure out the problem without needing sighted help.

          Kenny

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:24:34PM +0100, lists@barrettpianos.co.uk wrote:
> Just installed debian testing from snapshot cd of 27th July.
> 
> I got speech throughout the install and all seemed to go well.
> 
> When booting for the first time after the install, I got no speech.
> 
> I believe the system is booting correctly, as I can shut it down with 
> the halt command after logging in as root.
> 
> I am using hardware speech with an apollo.
> 
> So, anything I can try to get it talking and any one else had this 
> issue.
> 
> When I get chance, will get someone to look for error messages but 
> if I can get it talking in the mean time, that would be good.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Keith
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[keith barrett]

Thanks, Kenny

That got it talking.

So, how do I add the module?

Thanks



Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  After you login as root, have you tried running
> modprobe speakup_apollo
> 
> My first guess is the module wasn't added to /etc/modules.  
> If the modprobe command gets you speech, then you can figure out the problem without needing sighted help.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:24:34PM +0100, lists@barrettpianos.co.uk wrote:
>> Just installed debian testing from snapshot cd of 27th July.
>>
>> I got speech throughout the install and all seemed to go well.
>>
>> When booting for the first time after the install, I got no speech.
>>
>> I believe the system is booting correctly, as I can shut it down with 
>> the halt command after logging in as root.
>>
>> I am using hardware speech with an apollo.
>>
>> So, anything I can try to get it talking and any one else had this 
>> issue.
>>
>> When I get chance, will get someone to look for error messages but 
>> if I can get it talking in the mean time, that would be good.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  You would add it to /etc/modules.
Use what ever editor you want to add the line

speakup_apollo

to the bottom of the file.

          Kenny

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 05:38:04PM +0100, keith barrett wrote:
> Thanks, Kenny
> 
> That got it talking.
> 
> So, how do I add the module?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Kenny Hitt wrote:
> >Hi.  After you login as root, have you tried running
> >modprobe speakup_apollo
> >
> >My first guess is the module wasn't added to /etc/modules.  If the
> >modprobe command gets you speech, then you can figure out the
> >problem without needing sighted help.
> >
> >          Kenny
> >
> >On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:24:34PM +0100, lists@barrettpianos.co.uk wrote:
> >>Just installed debian testing from snapshot cd of 27th July.
> >>
> >>I got speech throughout the install and all seemed to go well.
> >>
> >>When booting for the first time after the install, I got no speech.
> >>
> >>I believe the system is booting correctly, as I can shut it down
> >>with the halt command after logging in as root.
> >>
> >>I am using hardware speech with an apollo.
> >>
> >>So, anything I can try to get it talking and any one else had
> >>this issue.
> >>
> >>When I get chance, will get someone to look for error messages
> >>but if I can get it talking in the mean time, that would be
> >>good.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Keith
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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RE: debian testing no speech after new install

[Øyvind Lode]

Hi:

Will I be able to use software speech with Debian testing and the next
stable release "squeeze"?
My understanding is that I can't use software speech with Lenny.
So I need sighted assistance when doing a install.

I've used Chris Brannons Talking Arch and love it.
However the constantly updating of packages is sometimes very painful when
running it as a server...

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
Sent: 5. august 2010 19:17
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: debian testing no speech after new install

Hi.  You would add it to /etc/modules.
Use what ever editor you want to add the line

speakup_apollo

to the bottom of the file.

          Kenny

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 05:38:04PM +0100, keith barrett wrote:
> Thanks, Kenny
> 
> That got it talking.
> 
> So, how do I add the module?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Kenny Hitt wrote:
> >Hi.  After you login as root, have you tried running
> >modprobe speakup_apollo
> >
> >My first guess is the module wasn't added to /etc/modules.  If the
> >modprobe command gets you speech, then you can figure out the
> >problem without needing sighted help.
> >
> >          Kenny
> >
> >On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:24:34PM +0100, lists@barrettpianos.co.uk
wrote:
> >>Just installed debian testing from snapshot cd of 27th July.
> >>
> >>I got speech throughout the install and all seemed to go well.
> >>
> >>When booting for the first time after the install, I got no speech.
> >>
> >>I believe the system is booting correctly, as I can shut it down
> >>with the halt command after logging in as root.
> >>
> >>I am using hardware speech with an apollo.
> >>
> >>So, anything I can try to get it talking and any one else had
> >>this issue.
> >>
> >>When I get chance, will get someone to look for error messages
> >>but if I can get it talking in the mean time, that would be
> >>good.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Keith
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  I believe it is planned to have software speech available on the Squeeze installer, but I
haven't seen a recent update on the status.
Since I have an Accent SA, I haven't payed close attention to the progress on software speech in the installer.
There is no problem using software speech after the install.  Just aptitude -q install espeakup and
make sure  speakup_soft is in /etc/modules.  This will work on Lenny as well as
Squeeze.
Although I use software speech after boot, I still let the system start out with the Accent SA so I can hear things like fsck.
I switch to software speech first thing after login.

          Kenny

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Will I be able to use software speech with Debian testing and the next
> stable release "squeeze"?
> My understanding is that I can't use software speech with Lenny.
> So I need sighted assistance when doing a install.
> 

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Steve Holmes]

You mean you still have serial port access with your system? What
kernel version are you up to? I can't use serial ports for speech
anymore with my 2.6.34 kernel I'm not exactly sure when this was lost
but I thought this was across the board with the current version of
speakup and newer kernels.  I would love to be able to use my Speakout
once in a while.

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:47:12PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  I believe it is planned to have software speech available on the Squeeze installer, but I
> haven't seen a recent update on the status.
> Since I have an Accent SA, I haven't payed close attention to the progress on software speech in the installer.
> There is no problem using software speech after the install.  Just aptitude -q install espeakup and
> make sure  speakup_soft is in /etc/modules.  This will work on Lenny as well as
> Squeeze.
> Although I use software speech after boot, I still let the system start out with the Accent SA so I can hear things like fsck.
> I switch to software speech first thing after login.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> > Hi:
> > 
> > Will I be able to use software speech with Debian testing and the next
> > stable release "squeeze"?
> > My understanding is that I can't use software speech with Lenny.
> > So I need sighted assistance when doing a install.
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Yes, Debian is still running 2.6.32.  I'll loose the serial port with
my next hardware upgrade since the system I'm planning to get doesn't have hardware serial ports, but this old box still does.

          Kenny

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:17:54PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> You mean you still have serial port access with your system? What
> kernel version are you up to? I can't use serial ports for speech
> anymore with my 2.6.34 kernel I'm not exactly sure when this was lost
> but I thought this was across the board with the current version of
> speakup and newer kernels.  I would love to be able to use my Speakout
> once in a while.
> 

RE: debian testing no speech after new install

[Albert Sten-Clanton]

Hi, Steve.  I'm using my TripleTalk LT via the serial port with what "uname
-a" tells me is 2.6.34-ARCH.  I haven't done any upgrades in a couple of
weeks, though, so don't know if there's a later kernel version than mine
that wouldn't work with it.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 6:18 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: debian testing no speech after new install

You mean you still have serial port access with your system? What
kernel version are you up to? I can't use serial ports for speech
anymore with my 2.6.34 kernel I'm not exactly sure when this was lost
but I thought this was across the board with the current version of
speakup and newer kernels.  I would love to be able to use my Speakout
once in a while.

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:47:12PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  I believe it is planned to have software speech available on the
Squeeze installer, but I
> haven't seen a recent update on the status.
> Since I have an Accent SA, I haven't payed close attention to the progress
on software speech in the installer.
> There is no problem using software speech after the install.  Just
aptitude -q install espeakup and
> make sure  speakup_soft is in /etc/modules.  This will work on Lenny as
well as
> Squeeze.
> Although I use software speech after boot, I still let the system start
out with the Accent SA so I can hear things like fsck.
> I switch to software speech first thing after login.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> > Hi:
> > 
> > Will I be able to use software speech with Debian testing and the next
> > stable release "squeeze"?
> > My understanding is that I can't use software speech with Lenny.
> > So I need sighted assistance when doing a install.
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
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Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Gaijin]

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 05:42:43PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.  Yes, Debian is still running 2.6.32.  I'll loose the serial port 
> with my next hardware upgrade since the system I'm planning to get 
> doesn't have hardware serial ports,

	They *DO* still make serial port PCI cards.  I think Janina 
posted links for a couple of them some months back in both single and 
dual port models.

				Michael

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 03:04:03AM -0700, Gaijin wrote:
> 
> 	They *DO* still make serial port PCI cards.  I think Janina 
> posted links for a couple of them some months back in both single and 
> dual port models.
> 
> 				Michael
> _______________________________________________
The synth is over 20 years old.  It works "most os the time",
so getting serial ports isn't worth any extra money.

          Kenny

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Gaijin]

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:15:09AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> The synth is over 20 years old.  It works "most os the time",
> so getting serial ports isn't worth any extra money.

So, you're saying that Janina can stick it and keep her ideas to 
herself? <grins>

				Michael

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Steve Holmes]

No, I don't think the kernel has updated since that time and I messed
with my serial synth befor that point in time anyway.  I can echo text
to it to /dev/ttyS0 and that part works great but when I try to use
the speakup_spkout module to use the Speakout synth with speakup, I
get silence. I don't know how to debug this either.  I really don't
have kernel hacking skills to speak uf.

I wonder if there is anything else I can look for.  I also use an Arch
system so we do have that in common.  That's why I'm surprised you can
do it but I can't.  Unless it has something to do with each specific
synth module.

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:17:15PM -0400, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> Hi, Steve.  I'm using my TripleTalk LT via the serial port with what "uname
> -a" tells me is 2.6.34-ARCH.  I haven't done any upgrades in a couple of
> weeks, though, so don't know if there's a later kernel version than mine
> that wouldn't work with it.
> 
> Al
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 6:18 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: debian testing no speech after new install
> 
> You mean you still have serial port access with your system? What
> kernel version are you up to? I can't use serial ports for speech
> anymore with my 2.6.34 kernel I'm not exactly sure when this was lost
> but I thought this was across the board with the current version of
> speakup and newer kernels.  I would love to be able to use my Speakout
> once in a while.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:47:12PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.  I believe it is planned to have software speech available on the
> Squeeze installer, but I
> > haven't seen a recent update on the status.
> > Since I have an Accent SA, I haven't payed close attention to the progress
> on software speech in the installer.
> > There is no problem using software speech after the install.  Just
> aptitude -q install espeakup and
> > make sure  speakup_soft is in /etc/modules.  This will work on Lenny as
> well as
> > Squeeze.
> > Although I use software speech after boot, I still let the system start
> out with the Accent SA so I can hear things like fsck.
> > I switch to software speech first thing after login.
> > 
> >           Kenny
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> > > Hi:
> > > 
> > > Will I be able to use software speech with Debian testing and the next
> > > stable release "squeeze"?
> > > My understanding is that I can't use software speech with Lenny.
> > > So I need sighted assistance when doing a install.
> > > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Steve,

My doubletalk LT works fine in arch also, wikth kernel 2.6.34, although
I normally use espeak for regular activities.  Here is how my speech
modules are handled:

In /etc/rc.conf, I have this line:

MODULES=(speakup speakup_soft)

In /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf, I have this line:
options speakup_soft start=0

and in /etc/rc.local, I have these lines:

# extra speakup modules
modprobe speakup_ltlk ser=0 start=0
# start talking
talkwith soft espeakup
speakupconf load


I hope something above might be helpful. 

Chuck


On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 09:10:55AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> No, I don't think the kernel has updated since that time and I messed
> with my serial synth befor that point in time anyway.  I can echo text
> to it to /dev/ttyS0 and that part works great but when I try to use
> the speakup_spkout module to use the Speakout synth with speakup, I
> get silence. I don't know how to debug this either.  I really don't
> have kernel hacking skills to speak uf.
> 
> I wonder if there is anything else I can look for.  I also use an Arch
> system so we do have that in common.  That's why I'm surprised you can
> do it but I can't.  Unless it has something to do with each specific
> synth module.
> 

-- 
The Moon is Waxing Crescent (4% of Full)
             My audio web site:           www.edway.ftml.net
                My audio editor weblog: edway.wordpress.com
                                --------
What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out,
which is the exact opposite.
		-- Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical Essays", 1928

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Since my last post, I upgraded to kernel 2.6.34.3, and all is still
well here. 

-- 
The Moon is Waxing Crescent (4% of Full)
             My audio web site:           www.edway.ftml.net
                My audio editor weblog: edway.wordpress.com
                                --------
What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out,
which is the exact opposite.
		-- Bertrand Russell, "Skeptical Essays", 1928

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Chris Brannon]

Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> Since my last post, I upgraded to kernel 2.6.34.3, and all is still
> well here. 

If ArchLinux users really want to live on the bleeding edge, they
can enable the [testing] and [community-testing] repositories, and try
kernel 2.6.35.  I doubt it will make any difference, though.

-- Chris

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Steve Holmes]

No go here!!! I ran script to capture some of the output I got but I
think the spkout module is severely broken or something.  Basically,
to compare with Chuck's configuration, I made sure my configs were
closest to his; at least right now, my MODULES entry in /etc/rc.conf
now only includes speakup and speakup_soft.  In my
/etc/modprobe.d/speakup.conf file, I have start=0 on the options line
for speakup_soft.  I commented out all other references to
speakup_spkout for now.

What I then did was to reboot my system where I would end up with no
speech; then I logged in with an ssh session so I could at least
monitor what was going on.  I then did the commands you will see in my
script output below.  I basically tried to modprobe the speakup_spkout
module but unsuccessfully but I could at least get soft speech going
again.  Can anyone offer some pointers on how I might fix thie module?
I realize it's hard for developers to test a module if they don't own
a synth but I have a speakout so would be willing to debug this if I
knew how:) 

----- Begin script output -----
Script started on Wed 11 Aug 2010 06:12:26 PM MST
[root@lnx3 ~]# modprobe speakup_spkout 
FATAL: Error inserting speakup_spkout (/lib/modules/2.6.34-ARCH/kernel/drivers/speakup-git/speakup_spkout.ko): No such device
[root@lnx3 ~]# modprobe speakup_spkout ser=0 start=0
[root@lnx3 ~]# talkwith spkout
Unable to switch to the spkout synthesizer.
This means that the driver is not built in, the module
is not loaded, or spkout is not a valid synthesizer.
[root@lnx3 ~]# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
speakup_spkout          1548  0 
pcspkr                  1351  0 
ipv6                  236542  22 
fuse                   51934  3 
usbhid                 32710  2 
snd_hda_codec_realtek   192179  1 
snd_seq_dummy           1071  0 
hid                    60015  1 usbhid
snd_emu10k1           127275  2 
snd_seq_oss            25016  0 
snd_hda_intel          18769  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      4488  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_rawmidi            15247  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec         87773  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_seq                41656  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_hda_codec          66815  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
usb_storage            33972  0 
snd_pcm_oss            33474  0 
snd_mixer_oss          14328  1 snd_pcm_oss
ac97_bus                 754  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                58460  7 snd_emu10k1,snd_hda_intel,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_device          4353  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd_timer              15601  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem            1812  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep               4756  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_hda_codec
snd_page_alloc          5941  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd                    42602  16 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
uhci_hcd               19280  0 
ppdev                   4854  0 
lp                      6684  0 
i2c_viapro              5147  0 
via_rhine              17097  0 
emu10k1_gp              1506  0 
speakup_soft            3502  0 
amd64_agp               6571  1 
parport_pc             27863  1 
speakup                69429  2 speakup_spkout,speakup_soft
psmouse                50897  0 
shpchp                 25563  0 
ehci_hcd               31918  0 
gameport                7165  2 emu10k1_gp
soundcore               5017  1 snd
i2c_core               15144  1 i2c_viapro
processor              25264  0 
evdev                   6780  4 
button                  3738  0 
serio_raw               3526  0 
thermal                 9746  0 
mii                     3190  1 via_rhine
k8temp                  2623  0 
parport                25403  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
sg                     20760  0 
pci_hotplug            21691  1 shpchp
agpgart                23120  1 amd64_agp
usbcore               120437  7 usbhid,usb_storage,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
rtc_cmos                7578  0 
rtc_core               11823  1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib                 1486  1 rtc_core
ext3                  110244  2 
jbd                    38969  1 ext3
mbcache                 4282  1 ext3
sr_mod                 13129  0 
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sd_mod                 25507  6 
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[root@lnx3 ~]# talkwith soft
[root@lnx3 ~]# talkwith spkout
Unable to switch to the spkout synthesizer.
This means that the driver is not built in, the module
is not loaded, or spkout is not a valid synthesizer.
[root@lnx3 ~]# killall -9 sp\b^[[K\b^[[Kespeakup
[root@lnx3 ~]# talkwith soft
[root@lnx3 ~]# exit
exit

Script done on Wed 11 Aug 2010 06:16:42 PM MST
----- End script output -----

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:46:47PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> My doubletalk LT works fine in arch also, wikth kernel 2.6.34, although
> I normally use espeak for regular activities.  Here is how my speech
> modules are handled:
> 
> In /etc/rc.conf, I have this line:
> 
> MODULES=(speakup speakup_soft)
> 
> In /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf, I have this line:
> options speakup_soft start=0
> 
> and in /etc/rc.local, I have these lines:
> 
> # extra speakup modules
> modprobe speakup_ltlk ser=0 start=0
> # start talking
> talkwith soft espeakup
> speakupconf load
> 
> 
> I hope something above might be helpful. 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 09:10:55AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > No, I don't think the kernel has updated since that time and I messed
> > with my serial synth befor that point in time anyway.  I can echo text
> > to it to /dev/ttyS0 and that part works great but when I try to use
> > the speakup_spkout module to use the Speakout synth with speakup, I
> > get silence. I don't know how to debug this either.  I really don't
> > have kernel hacking skills to speak uf.
> > 
> > I wonder if there is anything else I can look for.  I also use an Arch
> > system so we do have that in common.  That's why I'm surprised you can
> > do it but I can't.  Unless it has something to do with each specific
> > synth module.
> > 
> 
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Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Steve Holmes]

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:12:49PM -0500, Chris Brannon wrote:
> If ArchLinux users really want to live on the bleeding edge, they
> can enable the [testing] and [community-testing] repositories, and try
> kernel 2.6.35.  I doubt it will make any difference, though.

No, not here; I think the speakout module is broken or something.  See
my last post on this subject.

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Chris Brannon]

> No go here!!! I ran script to capture some of the output I got but I
> think the spkout module is severely broken or something.

No, it isn't the spkout module, and it isn't distro specific.
I don't know what it is.  I'm totally clueless.
The following synths have failed: Speakout, Audapter, and Double Talk
external.  In the case of the Double Talk external, it's a mixed bag.
Some folks are able to use it under kernel 2.6.34, while others aren't.

Could it be possible that the module won't load because some process
has opened the serial port?  I doubt it, but it's worth investigating.
Just for a lark, would you mind running the command
fuser /dev/ttyS0
on that system?
Also, just out of curiosity, what daemons are you starting at boot?
Do any of those open the serial port?

-- Chris

Re: debian testing no speech after new install

[Steve Holmes]

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 08:58:13PM -0500, Chris Brannon wrote:
> Just for a lark, would you mind running the command
> fuser /dev/ttyS0
> on that system?

I did just that from a root console and got no answers back; also $?
yielded a value of 1.

> Also, just out of curiosity, what daemons are you starting at boot?

DAEMONS=(pwrstatd alsa syslog-ng network netfs crond atd ntpd hal fam postgresql sshd speechd)

> Do any of those open the serial port?

I don't think so.  I don't know about things like HAL but would doubt
it.  I thought about speechd but the closest thing there would be the
generic module but that applies to Cepstral so no serial there.