* Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
@ Martin McCormick
` Mike Ray
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Martin McCormick @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I've been looking for an inexpensive talking watch that doesn't
fall apart in 3 months and noticed that various entities are
trying to make linux-based smart watches. This might be a
perfect platform on which to run a speakup instance.
One concept idea I read about used an ARM-based processor
like the raspberry Pi and even was supposed to support WiFi.
If one needed 8 talking timers with each one playing a
different tune when it timed out, you might have to write the app
yourself, but the only limitation would be your imagination and
available RAM. If next week, you only needed one talking timer
but this timer should announce it's time at 2 minutes, 2 minutes
37 seconds and finally 3 minutes and 27 seconds, you zap the 8 talking timers
and upload your new special talking timer executable.
The WiFi would let your watch keep itself set via ntpd.
After all, it's a watch and the linux is the power tool that lets
you leap tall buildings at a single bound.
Has anybody done this already and, if so, what platform
does it run on?
The concept idea I read that used the ARM was written
over a year ago and, as far as I know, is still only a concept.
Martin McCormick
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
Speakup and Linux Smart Watches Martin McCormick
@ ` Mike Ray
` Karen Lewellen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike Ray @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Why would a Linux smart watch be running a tty?
On 10/02/2021 14:38, Martin McCormick wrote:
> I've been looking for an inexpensive talking watch that doesn't
> fall apart in 3 months and noticed that various entities are
> trying to make linux-based smart watches. This might be a
> perfect platform on which to run a speakup instance.
>
> One concept idea I read about used an ARM-based processor
> like the raspberry Pi and even was supposed to support WiFi.
>
> If one needed 8 talking timers with each one playing a
> different tune when it timed out, you might have to write the app
> yourself, but the only limitation would be your imagination and
> available RAM. If next week, you only needed one talking timer
> but this timer should announce it's time at 2 minutes, 2 minutes
> 37 seconds and finally 3 minutes and 27 seconds, you zap the 8 talking timers
> and upload your new special talking timer executable.
>
> The WiFi would let your watch keep itself set via ntpd.
> After all, it's a watch and the linux is the power tool that lets
> you leap tall buildings at a single bound.
>
> Has anybody done this already and, if so, what platform
> does it run on?
>
> The concept idea I read that used the ARM was written
> over a year ago and, as far as I know, is still only a concept.
>
> Martin McCormick
>
--
Michael A. Ray
Analyst/Programmer
Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
https://cromarty.github.io/
http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
http://www.raspberryvi.org/
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Mike Ray
@ ` Karen Lewellen
` Mike Ray
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Ray; +Cc: speakup
and where would the smart watch quality speech come from?
Software speech in Linux remains rather poor.
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Mike Ray wrote:
>
>
> Why would a Linux smart watch be running a tty?
>
>
>
>
> On 10/02/2021 14:38, Martin McCormick wrote:
>> I've been looking for an inexpensive talking watch that doesn't
>> fall apart in 3 months and noticed that various entities are
>> trying to make linux-based smart watches. This might be a
>> perfect platform on which to run a speakup instance.
>>
>> One concept idea I read about used an ARM-based processor
>> like the raspberry Pi and even was supposed to support WiFi.
>>
>> If one needed 8 talking timers with each one playing a
>> different tune when it timed out, you might have to write the app
>> yourself, but the only limitation would be your imagination and
>> available RAM. If next week, you only needed one talking timer
>> but this timer should announce it's time at 2 minutes, 2 minutes
>> 37 seconds and finally 3 minutes and 27 seconds, you zap the 8 talking timers
>> and upload your new special talking timer executable.
>>
>> The WiFi would let your watch keep itself set via ntpd.
>> After all, it's a watch and the linux is the power tool that lets
>> you leap tall buildings at a single bound.
>>
>> Has anybody done this already and, if so, what platform
>> does it run on?
>>
>> The concept idea I read that used the ARM was written
>> over a year ago and, as far as I know, is still only a concept.
>>
>> Martin McCormick
>>
>
>
> --
> Michael A. Ray
> Analyst/Programmer
> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>
> "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
> there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
>
>
> https://cromarty.github.io/
> http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
> http://www.raspberryvi.org/
>
>
>
>
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Karen Lewellen
@ ` Mike Ray
` Karen Lewellen
` Chime Hart
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike Ray @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
IMHO there is nothing poor about eSpeak. It is the single best thing
that ever happened to computer accessibility bar none.
On 10/02/2021 20:41, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> and where would the smart watch quality speech come from?
> Software speech in Linux remains rather poor.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Mike Ray wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Why would a Linux smart watch be running a tty?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/02/2021 14:38, Martin McCormick wrote:
>>> I've been looking for an inexpensive talking watch that doesn't
>>> fall apart in 3 months and noticed that various entities are
>>> trying to make linux-based smart watches. This might be a
>>> perfect platform on which to run a speakup instance.
>>>
>>> One concept idea I read about used an ARM-based processor
>>> like the raspberry Pi and even was supposed to support WiFi.
>>>
>>> If one needed 8 talking timers with each one playing a
>>> different tune when it timed out, you might have to write the app
>>> yourself, but the only limitation would be your imagination and
>>> available RAM. If next week, you only needed one talking timer
>>> but this timer should announce it's time at 2 minutes, 2 minutes
>>> 37 seconds and finally 3 minutes and 27 seconds, you zap the 8
>>> talking timers
>>> and upload your new special talking timer executable.
>>>
>>> The WiFi would let your watch keep itself set via ntpd.
>>> After all, it's a watch and the linux is the power tool that lets
>>> you leap tall buildings at a single bound.
>>>
>>> Has anybody done this already and, if so, what platform
>>> does it run on?
>>>
>>> The concept idea I read that used the ARM was written
>>> over a year ago and, as far as I know, is still only a concept.
>>>
>>> Martin McCormick
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael A. Ray
>> Analyst/Programmer
>> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>>
>> "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
>> there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
>>
>>
>> https://cromarty.github.io/
>> http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
>> http://www.raspberryvi.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Michael A. Ray
Analyst/Programmer
Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
https://cromarty.github.io/
http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
http://www.raspberryvi.org/
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Mike Ray
@ ` Karen Lewellen
` Kirk Reiser
` Chime Hart
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Ray; +Cc: speakup
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Not if one has an auditory processing disorder.
stimulates the dizzy centres of my brain actually, adding the reputation
for poor quality, even noted on their voice file pages, and clearly I am
not alone in my view.
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Mike Ray wrote:
>
>
> IMHO there is nothing poor about eSpeak. It is the single best thing
> that ever happened to computer accessibility bar none.
>
>
>
> On 10/02/2021 20:41, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> and where would the smart watch quality speech come from?
>> Software speech in Linux remains rather poor.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Mike Ray wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would a Linux smart watch be running a tty?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/02/2021 14:38, Martin McCormick wrote:
>>>> I've been looking for an inexpensive talking watch that doesn't
>>>> fall apart in 3 months and noticed that various entities are
>>>> trying to make linux-based smart watches. This might be a
>>>> perfect platform on which to run a speakup instance.
>>>>
>>>> One concept idea I read about used an ARM-based processor
>>>> like the raspberry Pi and even was supposed to support WiFi.
>>>>
>>>> If one needed 8 talking timers with each one playing a
>>>> different tune when it timed out, you might have to write the app
>>>> yourself, but the only limitation would be your imagination and
>>>> available RAM. If next week, you only needed one talking timer
>>>> but this timer should announce it's time at 2 minutes, 2 minutes
>>>> 37 seconds and finally 3 minutes and 27 seconds, you zap the 8
>>>> talking timers
>>>> and upload your new special talking timer executable.
>>>>
>>>> The WiFi would let your watch keep itself set via ntpd.
>>>> After all, it's a watch and the linux is the power tool that lets
>>>> you leap tall buildings at a single bound.
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody done this already and, if so, what platform
>>>> does it run on?
>>>>
>>>> The concept idea I read that used the ARM was written
>>>> over a year ago and, as far as I know, is still only a concept.
>>>>
>>>> Martin McCormick
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael A. Ray
>>> Analyst/Programmer
>>> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>>>
>>> "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
>>> there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
>>>
>>>
>>> https://cromarty.github.io/
>>> http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
>>> http://www.raspberryvi.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Michael A. Ray
> Analyst/Programmer
> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>
> "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
> there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
>
>
> https://cromarty.github.io/
> http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
> http://www.raspberryvi.org/
>
>
>
>
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Mike Ray
` Karen Lewellen
@ ` Chime Hart
` Didier Spaier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Chime Hart @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike Ray; +Cc: speakup
Well Mike, obviously our experiences-and-enjoyments with computers are based
on, yes, whats available, but also what we are used to, as well as our level of
tollerance for sound. My first PC in 1994, I certainly made sure it was DEC
Talk. At that time folks considered that the Catalack of speech. Well, since I
began my switch to Linux in 2003, I now use a DecTalk U S B, while on a laptop,
Voxin with its IBM TTS, both are quite comfortable for myself. Sure but for the
segment splices, there are somewhat more natural sounding SAPI4 speech engines
in windows, also Ivona-and-ReadSpeaker, however, I don't know of any easy easy
way of working with these in Linux.
Honestly, if I were forced to only have espeak as an engine, I would almost
rather not have a PC, but I understand we all have the freedom to make choices.
Thanks for listening
Chime
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Chime Hart
@ ` Didier Spaier
` Didier Spaier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Didier Spaier @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chime Hart, Mike Ray; +Cc: speakup
As an aside, I have discussed some months ago with ReadSpeaker people.
It ended up that they were not really interested selling voices to
individual
Linux users and adapting there TTS for Speech-Dispatcher.
Cheers, Didier
Le 10/02/2021 à 21:57, Chime Hart a écrit :
> Well Mike, obviously our experiences-and-enjoyments with computers are
> based on, yes, whats available, but also what we are used to, as well as
> our level of tollerance for sound. My first PC in 1994, I certainly made
> sure it was DEC Talk. At that time folks considered that the Catalack of
> speech. Well, since I began my switch to Linux in 2003, I now use a
> DecTalk U S B, while on a laptop, Voxin with its IBM TTS, both are quite
> comfortable for myself. Sure but for the segment splices, there are
> somewhat more natural sounding SAPI4 speech engines in windows, also
> Ivona-and-ReadSpeaker, however, I don't know of any easy easy way of
> working with these in Linux.
> Honestly, if I were forced to only have espeak as an engine, I would
> almost rather not have a PC, but I understand we all have the freedom to
> make choices. Thanks for listening
> Chime
>
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Didier Spaier
@ ` Didier Spaier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Didier Spaier @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chime Hart, Mike Ray; +Cc: speakup
s/there/their/
Le 10/02/2021 à 22:59, Didier Spaier a écrit :
> As an aside, I have discussed some months ago with ReadSpeaker people.
>
> It ended up that they were not really interested selling voices to
> individual
> Linux users and adapting there TTS for Speech-Dispatcher.
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* Re: Speakup and Linux Smart Watches
` Karen Lewellen
@ ` Kirk Reiser
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Karen Lewellen; +Cc: Mike Ray, speakup
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I won't argue the quality pros and cons of espeak although I like it
quite a bit but for quality of speech google TTS is available on linux
which every android talkback user is aware of. I use it on my linux
text console through chrome and it works quite well. So I go back and
forth between espeakup and Google TTS.
On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Not if one has an auditory processing disorder.
> stimulates the dizzy centres of my brain actually, adding the reputation for
> poor quality, even noted on their voice file pages, and clearly I am not
> alone in my view.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Mike Ray wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> IMHO there is nothing poor about eSpeak. It is the single best thing
>> that ever happened to computer accessibility bar none.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/02/2021 20:41, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> and where would the smart watch quality speech come from?
>>> Software speech in Linux remains rather poor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Mike Ray wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would a Linux smart watch be running a tty?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/02/2021 14:38, Martin McCormick wrote:
>>>>> I've been looking for an inexpensive talking watch that doesn't
>>>>> fall apart in 3 months and noticed that various entities are
>>>>> trying to make linux-based smart watches. This might be a
>>>>> perfect platform on which to run a speakup instance.
>>>>>
>>>>> One concept idea I read about used an ARM-based processor
>>>>> like the raspberry Pi and even was supposed to support WiFi.
>>>>>
>>>>> If one needed 8 talking timers with each one playing a
>>>>> different tune when it timed out, you might have to write the app
>>>>> yourself, but the only limitation would be your imagination and
>>>>> available RAM. If next week, you only needed one talking timer
>>>>> but this timer should announce it's time at 2 minutes, 2 minutes
>>>>> 37 seconds and finally 3 minutes and 27 seconds, you zap the 8
>>>>> talking timers
>>>>> and upload your new special talking timer executable.
>>>>>
>>>>> The WiFi would let your watch keep itself set via ntpd.
>>>>> After all, it's a watch and the linux is the power tool that lets
>>>>> you leap tall buildings at a single bound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody done this already and, if so, what platform
>>>>> does it run on?
>>>>>
>>>>> The concept idea I read that used the ARM was written
>>>>> over a year ago and, as far as I know, is still only a concept.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin McCormick
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael A. Ray
>>>> Analyst/Programmer
>>>> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>>>>
>>>> "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
>>>> there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cromarty.github.io/
>>>> http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
>>>> http://www.raspberryvi.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael A. Ray
>> Analyst/Programmer
>> Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>>
>> "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when
>> there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
>>
>>
>> https://cromarty.github.io/
>> http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/
>> http://www.raspberryvi.org/
>>
>>
>>
>
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