My Clock Is Confused

My Clock Is Confused

[Rejean Proulx]

I noticed today that somehow my clock is set to UTC which in itself is ok.
The trouble is, my machine is on EDT which has a -4 hour offset, except that
my clock is reporting EDT as UTC. In other words, it is 4 hours ahead of
what it should be.  I wasn't worried about it until Luke send me a TAR file.
When I did the tar command it complained loudly that the file was created in
the future.  It worked, but I really need to fix this.  How to I tell the
silly machine that it needs to have an offset of -4.

 Rejean Proulx
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MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Hi,

     I don't remember what distro you're running.  In case it's any recent 
version of RHL, do this.  cp -p /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern 
/etc/localtime
then, edit /etc/sysconfig/clock .  Change the timezone to 
Canada/Eastern
If Linux is the only system on the machine, set UTC to true in that file.

          HTH.
-- 


Bill in Denver

Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Rejean Proulx]

I don't have a sysconfig directory in /etc  I am running Debian, if that is
any help.  Where is that clock file in Debian?

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused


> Hi,
>
>      I don't remember what distro you're running.  In case it's any recent
> version of RHL, do this.  cp -p /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
> /etc/localtime
> then, edit /etc/sysconfig/clock .  Change the timezone to
> Canada/Eastern
> If Linux is the only system on the machine, set UTC to true in that file.
>
>           HTH.
> --
>
>
> Bill in Denver
>
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  You need to run the tzconfig command as root and pick your time
zone/location.

          Kenny

On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:03:30AM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> I don't have a sysconfig directory in /etc  I am running Debian, if that is
> any help.  Where is that clock file in Debian?
> 
>  Rejean Proulx
> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> Ham License VA3REJ
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >      I don't remember what distro you're running.  In case it's any recent
> > version of RHL, do this.  cp -p /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
> > /etc/localtime
> > then, edit /etc/sysconfig/clock .  Change the timezone to
> > Canada/Eastern
> > If Linux is the only system on the machine, set UTC to true in that file.
> >
> >           HTH.
> > --
> >
> >
> > Bill in Denver
> >
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Rejean Proulx]

OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.  I ran
base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not UTC.
Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it puts
me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the parameters
are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused


> Hi.  You need to run the tzconfig command as root and pick your time
> zone/location.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:03:30AM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> > I don't have a sysconfig di@"*+ory in /etc  I am running Debian, if that
is
> > any help.  Where is that clock file in Debian?
> >
> >  Rejean Proulx
> > Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> > MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> > Ham License VA3REJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >      I don't remember what distro you're running.  In case it's any
recent
> > > version of RHL, do this.  cp -p /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
> > > /etc/localtime
> > > then, edit /etc/sysconfig/clock .  Change the timezone to
> > > Canada/Eastern
> > > If Linux is the only system on the machine, set UTC to true in that
file.
> > >
> > >           HTH.
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill in Denver
> > >
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Gregory Nowak]

Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.

In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).

Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).

Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
the A or P myself.

The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
minute).

So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
14:40, you would do as root
"date 10061440"
and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
change, but your time zone won't.

Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
learn.

Hth.

Greg

P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
going when your machine is off.

On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.  I ran
> base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not UTC.
> Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it puts
> me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
> program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the parameters
> are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
> 
>  Rejean Proulx
> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> Ham License VA3REJ
> 

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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Patrick Turnage]

Hello
Greg, how do you set the year?
Sincerely,
Patrick



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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[gena-j]

Hi

Or you could simply install a package that gets the time from a ntp
server such as chrony or ntp.  There are plenty of open access servers
around the world.

Gena

>Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
>
>In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
>Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
>
>Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
>
>Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
>you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
>the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
>string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
>the A or P myself.
>
>The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
>minute).
>
>So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
>14:40, you would do as root
>"date 10061440"
>and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
>the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
>change, but your time zone won't.
>
>Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
>in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
>learn.
>
>Hth.
>
>Greg
>
>P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
>assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
>going when your machine is off.
>
>On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
>> OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.  I ran
>> base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not UTC.
>> Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it puts
>> me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
>> program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the parameters
>> are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
>> 
>>  Rejean Proulx
>> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
>> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
>> Ham License VA3REJ
>> 
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Gregory Nowak]

Good question.
You do it the same way as I described, accept that you add 4 extra
digits at the end.

So, say you wanted to set your date to 14:40 October 06th, 2004, you
would do:
" date 100614402004"

Since I'm on a roll here, you set the number of seconds with a period
and 2 digits for the second after the full date string above.

Greg


On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 04:03:19PM -0400, Patrick Turnage wrote:
> Hello
> Greg, how do you set the year?
> Sincerely,
> Patrick
> 
> 
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
Actually, there is a way to do it separately. Use the s switch to date. The format is:
date -s year-mm-dd
to set the date. Taking your provided example, it would look like:
date -s 2003-10-06
After that, you set the time in 24-hour format like this:
date -s hh:mm:ss
Again, taking your example, you would use:
date -s 14:40
Note that specifying the seconds is not necessary, but you can if you want. I've often found this easier than combining the two, especially when I only need 
to set one of them.
HTH
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:48:17 -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:

>Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
>
>In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
>Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
>
>Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
>
>Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
>you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
>the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
>string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
>the A or P myself.
>
>The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
>minute).
>
>So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
>14:40, you would do as root
>"date 10061440"
>and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
>the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
>change, but your time zone won't.
>

Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Gregory Nowak]

Thanks, that's a bit less combersum. Guess date is still a mystery
even to non-newbies (grin).

Greg


On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 04:29:50PM -0400, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi
> Actually, there is a way to do it separately. Use the s switch to date. The format is:
> date -s year-mm-dd
> to set the date. Taking your provided example, it would look like:
> date -s 2003-10-06
> After that, you set the time in 24-hour format like this:
> date -s hh:mm:ss
> Again, taking your example, you would use:
> date -s 14:40
> Note that specifying the seconds is not necessary, but you can if you want. I've often found this easier than combining the two, especially when I only need 
> to set one of them.
> HTH

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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Rejean Proulx]

Thanks, now the help instructions make sense.  I guess if I'd read them with
an open mind I'd have figured it out but it is too strange to be believable.
I'm going to find a program to keep the time current so I don't have to
worry about this.  I feel better that it works.  Having the wrong time can
be a little dangerous.  It can do strange things to files.

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused


> Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
>
> In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
> Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
>
> Digits 3 and 4 speci'1H9he day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
>
> Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
> you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
> the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
> string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
> the A or P myself.
>
> The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
> minute).
>
> So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
> 14:40, you would do as root
> "date 10061440"
> and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
> the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
> change, but your time zone won't.
>
> Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
> in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
> learn.
>
> Hth.
>
> Greg
>
> P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
> assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
> going when your machine is off.
>
> On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> > OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.  I
ran
> > base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not
UTC.
> > Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it
puts
> > me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
> > program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the
parameters
> > are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
> >
> >  Rejean Proulx
> > Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> > MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> > Ham License VA3REJ
> >
>
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Rejean Proulx]

I was looking for NTP and couldn't remember what those darn time servers are
called.  Now that I am armed with this information, I'll look for a package.
It must be age or something.  You forget the stupidest things.

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

----- Original Message -----
From: <gena-j@ntlworld.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused


> Hi
>
> Or you could simply install a package that gets the time from a ntp
> server such as chrony or ntp.  There are plenty of open access servers
> around the world.
>
> Gena
>
> >Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
> >
> >In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
> >Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
> >
> >Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
> >
> >Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
> >you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
> >the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
> >string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
> >the A or P myself.
> >
> >The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
> >minute).
> >
> >So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
> >14:40, you would do as root
> >"date 10061440"
> >and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
> >the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
> >change, but your time zone won't.
> >
> >Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
> >in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
> >learn.
> >
> >Hth.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
> >assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
> >going when your machine is off.
> >
> >On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> >> OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.
I ran
> >> base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not
UTC.
> >> Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it
puts
> >> me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
> >> program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the
parameters
> >> are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
> >>
> >>  Rejean Proulx
> >> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> >> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> >> Ham License VA3REJ
> >>
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Gregory Nowak]

On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 04:36:15PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> Thanks, now the help instructions make sense.  I guess if I'd read them with
> an open mind I'd have figured it out but it is too strange to be believable.

Yeah, I'll agree with you on that one (smile).

As I've mentioned a few days ago on the list, I have a script here
that someone else posted here a long time ago, that sets the clock
using the public clock at psu.edu.

If you're interested, drop me a line privately.

Since you're using Debian, Jeana (sorry if I spelled your name wrong) mentioned a clock setting package for
that distro too.

Greg


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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[gena-j]

Hi

OK, here's some intersting info, obviously more so for Debian users:

Package: ntp
Priority: optional
Section: net
Installed-Size: 344
Maintainer: Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com>
Architecture: i386
Version: 1:4.1.1b-4
Replaces: xntp,xntp3
Depends: ntp-simple | ntp-refclock, debconf, libc6 (>= 2.3.2-1), libreadline4 (>= 4.3-1)
Suggests: ntpdate,ntp-doc
Conflicts: chrony
Filename: pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.1.1b-4_i386.deb
Size: 135942
MD5sum: 468e62a297ccd582da507ea8ab0994c0
Description: Daemon and utilities for full NTP v4 timekeeping participation
 The Network Time Protocol allows for the synchronization of clocks on
 networked computers.  The ntpd daemon implements NTP, allowing Unix
 systems to participate in this synchronization.
 .
 To minimize resource consumption in the general case, this package no longer
 includes the actual daemon.  You will need either ntp-simple or ntp-refclock,
 depending on whether you want the drivers for radio clocks included in the
 refclock version of the daemon.
 .
 NTP was designed with attention to details which might introduce
 systematic bias into the computations, and the protocol is capable of
 synchronizing with even the most precise external time sources.
 .
 For more information on how NTP works, and how to configure a campus of
 ntpd daemons, load the optional Debian package 'ntp-doc'.


Gena

>I was looking for NTP and couldn't remember what those darn time servers are
>called.  Now that I am armed with this information, I'll look for a package.
>It must be age or something.  You forget the stupidest things.
>
> Rejean Proulx
>Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
>MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
>Ham License VA3REJ
>
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>From: <gena-j@ntlworld.com>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:09 PM
>Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Or you could simply install a package that gets the time from a ntp
>> server such as chrony or ntp.  There are plenty of open access servers
>> around the world.
>>
>> Gena
>>
>> >Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
>> >
>> >In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
>> >Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
>> >
>> >Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
>> >
>> >Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
>> >you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
>> >the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
>> >string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
>> >the A or P myself.
>> >
>> >The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
>> >minute).
>> >
> >So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
>> >14:40, you would do as root
>> >"date 10061440"
>> >and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
>> >the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
>> >change, but your time zone won't.
>> >
>> >Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
>> >in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
>> >learn.
>> >
>> >Hth.
>> >
>> >Greg
>> >
>> >P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
>> >assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
>> >going when your machine is off.
>> >
>> >On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
>> >> OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.
>I ran
>> >> base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not
>UTC.
>> >> Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it
>puts
>> >> me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
>> >> program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the
>parameters
>> >> are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
>> >>
>> >>  Rejean Proulx
>> >> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
>> >> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
>> >> Ham License VA3REJ
>> >>
>> >
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Igor Gueths]

One timeserver you can use is time-nw.nist.gov.

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Rejean Proulx wrote:

> I was looking for NTP and couldn't remember what those darn time servers are
> called.  Now that I am armed with this information, I'll look for a package.
> It must be age or something.  You forget the stupidest things.
>
>  Rejean Proulx
> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> Ham License VA3REJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gena-j@ntlworld.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Or you could simply install a package that gets the time from a ntp
> > server such as chrony or ntp.  There are plenty of open access servers
> > around the world.
> >
> > Gena
> >
> > >Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
> > >
> > >In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
> > >Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
> > >
> > >Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
> > >
> > >Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
> > >you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
> > >the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
> > >string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
> > >the A or P myself.
> > >
> > >The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
> > >minute).
> > >
> > >So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
> > >14:40, you would do as root
> > >"date 10061440"
> > >and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
> > >the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
> > >change, but your time zone won't.
> > >
> > >Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
> > >in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
> > >learn.
> > >
> > >Hth.
> > >
> > >Greg
> > >
> > >P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
> > >assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
> > >going when your machine is off.
> > >
> > >On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> > >> OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.
> I ran
> > >> base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not
> UTC.
> > >> Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it
> puts
> > >> me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
> > >> program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the
> parameters
> > >> are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
> > >>
> > >>  Rejean Proulx
> > >> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> > >> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> > >> Ham License VA3REJ
> > >>
> > >
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Re: My Clock Is Confused

[Rejean Proulx]

Those using debian can try ntpdate.  It is a simple package that does the
trick.

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

----- Original Message -----
From: <gena-j@ntlworld.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: My Clock Is Confused


> Hi
>
> Or you could simply install a package that gets the time from a ntp
> server such as chrony or ntp.  There are plenty of open access servers
> around the world.
>
> Gena
>
> >Yeah, the syntax of date is pretty weird.
> >
> >In a nutshell, you want to pass 8 digits to the date command
> >Digits 1 and 2 specify the month (I.E. 10 for October).
> >
> >Digits 3 and 4 specify the day (I.E. 06 for the 6th day of the month).
> >
> >Digits 5 and 6 specify the hour (I.E. 14 for 2 P.M.) (remember that
> >you're dealing with a 24 hour clock here). It's possible to specify
> >the hour in 12 hour format with an A or P at the end of the number
> >string, but I've always used 24 hour format for this, so haven't tried
> >the A or P myself.
> >
> >The final 7 and 8 digits specify the minute (I.E. 40 for the 40th
> >minute).
> >
> >So, for example, if you wanted to set your clock to October 06th,
> >14:40, you would do as root
> >"date 10061440"
> >and that should do it, preserving whatever time zone you've got set at
> >the time. What I mean by that, is that only the hour/minute will
> >change, but your time zone won't.
> >
> >Wonder why they didn't implement the date and time changes separately
> >in unix, would have sure made things less confusing for newbies to
> >learn.
> >
> >Hth.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >P.S., once you've got this set, you won't need to worry about it,
> >assuming your cmos battery has charge of course to keep the clock
> >going when your machine is off.
> >
> >On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:38:50PM -0400, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> >> OK, I've done that and it was correct.  Now I have to reset my clock.
I ran
> >> base-config, just the first part of it and told it that my clock is not
UTC.
> >> Now I am 4 hours behind.  If I tell it my hardware clock is UTC then it
puts
> >> me 4 hours ahead.  How to I reset the clock to the right time and run a
> >> program to keep it that way?  I tried the date command and the
parameters
> >> are strange.  I haven't been able to get it right yet.
> >>
> >>  Rejean Proulx
> >> Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
> >> MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
> >> Ham License VA3REJ
> >>
> >
> >--
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> >
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