* Re: red hat
` Rob Hudson
@ ` Igor Gueths
` Tony Baechler
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I'll actually be taking the RHCSA at some point soon, with the intent to move
onto the RHCE. Based on feedback from people that I have gotten both in and
outside of work, someone has apparently come up with a way to make the process
accessible. I'm interested to see what they come up with. ANother item of note
is that it has apparently been done before, although not sure how.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:02:43PM -0600, Rob Hudson wrote:
> I was considering doing that with a bunch of people. After all,
> afaik, red hat is a for-pay linux and should be usable by everyone,
> and most of the access tools are free so including them in a
> distribution shouldn't be that hard. Anybody interested in signing a
> petition with me?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason White"
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> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: red hat
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>
> >Amanda Rush <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> wrote:
> >>As of this date, there is not an accessible way to use Redhat for the
> >>purposes of sitting either the RHCSA (formerly RHCT) or the RHCE
> >>certifications.
> >
> >If there isn't an accessible solution, I would suggest taking it
> >up with Red
> >Hat. Note that there could be legal implications if they don't make it
> >accessible, depending on where you live and the
> >anti-discrimination laws in
> >force there.
> >
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: red hat
` Rob Hudson
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Tony Baechler
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
On 11/21/2012 3:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
> I was considering doing that with a bunch of people. After all, afaik, red
> hat is a for-pay linux and should be usable by everyone, and most of the
> access tools are free so including them in a distribution shouldn't be that
> hard. Anybody interested in signing a petition with me?
I would be interested, but I don't think there is much point. I don't know
what country you live in, but I know that the US and the UK have laws in
place which require companies to make their products accessible. I'm not in
the UK so I don't know any details of their laws, but in the US, there are
various organizations you can contact. However, before getting to that
point, try to talk to someone in charge of the certifications and explain
your situation. Since Speakup is in staging, there is no reason why they
can't allow you to use a standard kernel. Fedora should have Orca, but I
don't use it so I don't know. I know Bookshare has some of the Linux prep
books which you can study and get an idea of what kind of skills are involved.
However, if talking to people doesn't do any good and there seems to be no
obvious way to have an accessible exam, I'm afraid a petition won't do a lot
of good. You'll probably have to get an advocacy organization involved and
be prepared for a long legal battle. I don't believe in law suits unless
there is no other choice and it's hopeful that Red Hat would listen to
structured negotiations (lflegal.com for more information) but I've found
that most corporations are unwilling to adapt unless they're forced to do
so. That's really sad and unfortunate, but that's life. I would suggest
joining a blindness advocacy organization in your country and explaining
your problem through them. There is always strength in numbers. Both the
ACB and NFB in the US have technology groups just for this kind of issue,
but I'm not sure how aware of Linux they are.
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