speakup paste problem on debian

speakup paste problem on debian

[Jude DaShiell]

If there's no text on the clipboard and you hit the paste command, speakup 
says paste.  If there's any text on the clipboard and you hit paste, 
speakup pastes debian to the point the keyboard no longer works and the 
computer has to be taken down with the power button and this is on an 
amd64 athelon k8 computer.  I haven't yet tried this on an intel box I 
have.



jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Hart Larry]

Well Jude, while I am just as anoyed as any1 about this, but a couple of years 
ago Bill Acker gave me a quite helpful tip to get around this. You must ssh to 
localhost on each console you may want to paste. Works like a charm
Hart

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Rob Hudson]

I've run debian weezy twice now and this never happened to me. I burned the 
cd last year sometime, so maybe that's why.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:23 PM
Subject: speakup paste problem on debian


> If there's no text on the clipboard and you hit the paste command, speakup
> says paste.  If there's any text on the clipboard and you hit paste,
> speakup pastes debian to the point the keyboard no longer works and the
> computer has to be taken down with the power button and this is on an
> amd64 athelon k8 computer.  I haven't yet tried this on an intel box I
> have.
>
>
>
> jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
>
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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Jason White]

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> wrote:
> If there's no text on the clipboard and you hit the paste command, speakup 
> says paste.  If there's any text on the clipboard and you hit paste, 
> speakup pastes debian to the point the keyboard no longer works and the 
> computer has to be taken down with the power button and this is on an 
> amd64 athelon k8 computer.  

If the bug can be reproduced so easily, it shouldn't be hard for someone with
kernel development expertise to fix it.

Maybe Speakup needs an "outreach program" or "summer of code" person, to work
on some of the known issues, or perhaps it requires more knowledge than this
and requires attention of an experienced kernel developer.

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Gregory Nowak]

No, both the cut/paste bug and the crash when starting speakup with
quiet=1 bug have been there since wheezy came out. The cut/paste bug seems
to show up more frequently on some machines than on others. I've been
able to reproduce it on more than one wheezy machine by pasting
something at the bash prompt.

Jason, both of these issues have been fixed a good while ago. The
problem is that the speakup version in wheezy's kernel hasn't been
updated.

Greg


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 09:07:51PM -0600, Rob Hudson wrote:
> I've run debian weezy twice now and this never happened to me. I
> burned the cd last year sometime, so maybe that's why.


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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Jason White]

Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
 
> Jason, both of these issues have been fixed a good while ago. The
> problem is that the speakup version in wheezy's kernel hasn't been
> updated.

Thanks. In that case, those affected could upgrade their kernels and any
necessary dependencies.

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[covici]

I sure wish someone would fix index mark reading on kernels  above about
3.6 -- whenever I try and use a serial synth  after patching, it works,
but speakup-r does not work at all -- I wonder what they did to break
it?

Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@shellworld.net> wrote:
> > If there's no text on the clipboard and you hit the paste command, speakup 
> > says paste.  If there's any text on the clipboard and you hit paste, 
> > speakup pastes debian to the point the keyboard no longer works and the 
> > computer has to be taken down with the power button and this is on an 
> > amd64 athelon k8 computer.  
> 
> If the bug can be reproduced so easily, it shouldn't be hard for someone with
> kernel development expertise to fix it.
> 
> Maybe Speakup needs an "outreach program" or "summer of code" person, to work
> on some of the known issues, or perhaps it requires more knowledge than this
> and requires attention of an experienced kernel developer.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Janina Sajka]

I have no notion of the whys and wherefores of the Speakup clipboard
carshing Debian, but I can confidently report this has recently begun
happening with newer kernels patched with current staging modules under
Fedora 20.

In other words, the bug is back.

Janina

Jason White writes:
> Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>  
> > Jason, both of these issues have been fixed a good while ago. The
> > problem is that the speakup version in wheezy's kernel hasn't been
> > updated.
> 
> Thanks. In that case, those affected could upgrade their kernels and any
> necessary dependencies.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Deedra Waters]

The bug has been around for a while, i think the problem is that no one
knows how to fix it. We've well chris has hit the bug before, however i
seem to be immune. Now saying that watch my machine crash when i
copy/paste;p


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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

I'm digging back an old mail.

covici@ccs.covici.com, le jeu. 23 janv. 2014 07:21:43 -0500, a ecrit:
> I sure wish someone would fix index mark reading on kernels  above about
> 3.6 -- whenever I try and use a serial synth  after patching, it works,
> but speakup-r does not work at all -- I wonder what they did to break
> it?

I don't know exactly what index mark reading is, I don't find any
documentation for speakup-r in spkguide.txt, could you describe more
what it is supposed to do?

Samuel

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[John Covici]

This was an old problem, long fixed, so l ong ago that I forget the
resolution.  But speakup-r reads a document, as long as it has a
cursor, by sending down arrows and keeping track of what speech was
actually sent by means of the synthesizers index marks.  Then when you
stop the reading, the cursor is where you stopped.


On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 20:54:46 -0500,
Samuel Thibault wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm digging back an old mail.
> 
> covici@ccs.covici.com, le jeu. 23 janv. 2014 07:21:43 -0500, a ecrit:
> > I sure wish someone would fix index mark reading on kernels  above about
> > 3.6 -- whenever I try and use a serial synth  after patching, it works,
> > but speakup-r does not work at all -- I wonder what they did to break
> > it?
> 
> I don't know exactly what index mark reading is, I don't find any
> documentation for speakup-r in spkguide.txt, could you describe more
> what it is supposed to do?
> 
> Samuel
> 

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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Samuel Thibault]

John Covici, le dim. 08 nov. 2020 01:49:00 -0500, a ecrit:
> But speakup-r reads a document, as long as it has a
> cursor, by sending down arrows and keeping track of what speech was
> actually sent by means of the synthesizers index marks.  Then when you
> stop the reading, the cursor is where you stopped.

Ah, that's read_all_doc then. Ok, I'll add it to the spkguide so at
least people know about it.

Is that working with software speech?

Samuel

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[John Covici]

That depends.  I am sure it does NOT work if you use espeakup, but I
am pretty sure (not tested for a long time) it works with speech
dispatcher and speechd-up.

On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 13:10:14 -0500,
Samuel Thibault wrote:
> 
> John Covici, le dim. 08 nov. 2020 01:49:00 -0500, a ecrit:
> > But speakup-r reads a document, as long as it has a
> > cursor, by sending down arrows and keeping track of what speech was
> > actually sent by means of the synthesizers index marks.  Then when you
> > stop the reading, the cursor is where you stopped.
> 
> Ah, that's read_all_doc then. Ok, I'll add it to the spkguide so at
> least people know about it.
> 
> Is that working with software speech?
> 
> Samuel
> 

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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Samuel Thibault]

John Covici, le lun. 09 nov. 2020 01:20:03 -0500, a ecrit:
> That depends.  I am sure it does NOT work if you use espeakup, but I
> am pretty sure (not tested for a long time) it works with speech
> dispatcher and speechd-up.

Ok. I added support for espeakup in
https://github.com/williamh/espeakup/pull/22

and uploaded it to Debian as version 1:0.80-19.

Samuel

Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Alexander Epaneshnikov]

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09.11.2020 22:44, Samuel Thibault пишет:
> John Covici, le lun. 09 nov. 2020 01:20:03 -0500, a ecrit:
>> That depends.  I am sure it does NOT work if you use espeakup, but I
>> am pretty sure (not tested for a long time) it works with speech
>> dispatcher and speechd-up.
> Ok. I added support for espeakup in
> https://github.com/williamh/espeakup/pull/22
to be honest, I don't believe these patches will ever be merged into
upstream. I am very sad about this.
> and uploaded it to Debian as version 1:0.80-19.
>
> Samuel
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Re: speakup paste problem on debian

[Samuel Thibault]

Alexander Epaneshnikov, le lun. 09 nov. 2020 23:35:16 +0300, a ecrit:
> 09.11.2020 22:44, Samuel Thibault пишет:
> > Ok. I added support for espeakup in
> > https://github.com/williamh/espeakup/pull/22
> to be honest, I don't believe these patches will ever be merged into
> upstream. I am very sad about this.

Possibly, but that's the best place where people will look for such kind
of patches.

Samuel