Debian wheezy taling installer?

Debian wheezy taling installer?

[Dietmar Segbert]

where can i find a talking installer for debian wheezy?

Thanks and regards

Dietmar

Re: Debian wheezy taling installer?

[Samuel Thibault]

Dietmar Segbert, le Sat 30 Mar 2013 15:44:00 +0100, a écrit :
> where can i find a talking installer for debian wheezy?

Almost all images have the talking installer. See the wheezy
installation manual and http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility

Samuel

Re: Debian wheezy taling installer?

[Cleverson Casarin Uliana]

Hi Samuel, perhaps I should ask this on the Debian accessibility list, 
but taking this topic anyways, I plan to install Wheezy as soon as it 
becomes stable, and I'd just like to know, after installing it with 
software speech and desktop environment enabled, will it install all 
required packages including Orca? Does it start automatically on Gnome 
startup? Plus, should I start gnome with the startx command after the 
reboot, or does it install GDM?

Thank you,
Cleverson

Re: Debian wheezy taling installer?

[Samuel Thibault]

I've added information to wiki.debian.org/accessibility (if some people
could handle writing such kind of information there, that'd save me the
time to do it).

“
When installation is done via braille or speech, the same braille and
speech parameters will get enabled on the installed system. Orca will
also be enabled for the user created at installation. For Wheezy, gdm
will however not have screen reading, as it was not implemented in
gnome3 yet.
”

Cleverson Casarin Uliana, le Sat 30 Mar 2013 21:34:57 -0300, a écrit :
> Plus, should I start gnome with the startx command after the reboot,
> or does it install GDM?

Debian has always been installing/enabling gdm when you enable the
graphical task.

Samuel

Re: Debian wheezy taling installer?

[John G. Heim]

Do you mean the gdm login screen won't have speech? 
I asked about that a couple of times on the orca list and nobody seemed to know how to enable speech for the login prompt. A few people have reported problems getting speakup to work with software speech. That's not working on my system either although I haven't really tried to get it working.

On Mar 30, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> I've added information to wiki.debian.org/accessibility (if some people
> could handle writing such kind of information there, that'd save me the
> time to do it).
> 
> “
> When installation is done via braille or speech, the same braille and
> speech parameters will get enabled on the installed system. Orca will
> also be enabled for the user created at installation. For Wheezy, gdm
> will however not have screen reading, as it was not implemented in
> gnome3 yet.
> ”
> 
> Cleverson Casarin Uliana, le Sat 30 Mar 2013 21:34:57 -0300, a écrit :
>> Plus, should I start gnome with the startx command after the reboot,
>> or does it install GDM?
> 
> Debian has always been installing/enabling gdm when you enable the
> graphical task.
> 
> Samuel
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Re: Debian wheezy taling installer?

[Samuel Thibault]

John G. Heim, le Sun 31 Mar 2013 10:20:47 -0500, a écrit :
> Do you mean the gdm login screen won't have speech? 

Yes.

> I asked about that a couple of times on the orca list and nobody seemed to know how to enable speech for the login prompt.

Yes, because gdm3 does not have any yet.

> A few people have reported problems getting speakup to work with software speech.

Possibly due to interference with pulseaudio etc.

> That's not working on my system either although I haven't really tried to get it working.

Samuel

Re: Debian wheezy taling installer?

[Steve Holmes]

Yes, I can confirm that Pulse Audio is a total pain in the ass!  I
just spent the past two days trying to get a combination of parms that
would enable normal ALSA and Pulse to function at the same time
without one clobbering access to sound hardware by anything else.
This was on my Arch Linux system.  I found some info on the Arch wiki
explaining how to alter the /etc/pulse/default.pa to enable all this.

But for Debian, you ought to be able to get software speech going at
the console level and just leave gnome completely out of the way.
Then work on speech dispatcher and get that verified with the spd-say
command.  then perhaps staart messing with gnome and only run it with
the startx command from a native console.  

I know these ideas are brief and I'm sure you may run into problems
with conflicts but at least, follow that general sequence of events
and maybe some more progress can be made.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 05:23:03PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> John G. Heim, le Sun 31 Mar 2013 10:20:47 -0500, a écrit :
> > Do you mean the gdm login screen won't have speech? 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > I asked about that a couple of times on the orca list and nobody seemed to know how to enable speech for the login prompt.
> 
> Yes, because gdm3 does not have any yet.
> 
> > A few people have reported problems getting speakup to work with software speech.
> 
> Possibly due to interference with pulseaudio etc.
> 
> > That's not working on my system either although I haven't really tried to get it working.
> 
> Samuel
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