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* re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces
@  Bruce Noblick
   ` Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Noblick @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup info

Hello all,

This is a rather long note.  I am answering the questions that Luke and Tony 
asked and restating my situation in obnoxious detail.

I have successfully installed both CD's, first, the alternate, then the live 
CD on a desktop computer.

I used the same steps to download both images.  I started at the ubuntu web 
site, www.ubuntu.com, found a location to download from, downloaded the .iso 
images, created the CD's under windows xp using cdrwin to write an iso image 
to CD.

The alternate worked properly but my wife had to read everything.  The 
alternate CD gave me an option to install a text only version.  That worked 
but with no speech.  I could type any commands and run any scripts.

Then I tried the live CD using the first option at the boot prompt to run it 
before I installed it.  This worked.

Then I decided to install it using the second option at the boot prompt.  I 
used the exact procedure that Tony described.  Orca worked well enough for 
me but it did not give me access to some of the more exotic things on the 
system menu.  I could enter the required password and then nothing would 
happen.

I also did not see a way to get to a shell to type my own commands.  I also 
have a dectalk express connected to the only com port this computer has. 
Would it be possible to get orca to use it? In reading between the lines, do 
I infer correctly that for now, I will not be able to have speech, even if I 
do manage to get to a place where I can type commands?  Would it be enough 
to find a way to install another kernel with speakup already installed in 
it? If so, how would one do that?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tony seth" <lp800@samobile.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces


> Hi all... For what it's worth, I've gotten the 8.4 release to work on one 
> computer, but not the other.  The way I did it was first, when the cd 
> starts spinning, the first thing that comes up is a language dialog, for 
> which English is the default, just hit enter there, it spins a bit more, 
> then hit down arrow once, for the install, from there do the f5 3 enter 
> enter and it should work, but on one of my computers the eee pc to be 
> exact, it dies right after the second enter, but on my desktop it works 
> just fine...
> I'll be tickled if they include speakup eventually, which I guess they 
> will since it appearently will be in the latest Debian... so there it 
> is...
> Hth.
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* re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces
@  Bruce Noblick
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Noblick @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup info

Hi again,

Thanks! That information has given me all I need for now.  I can dig through 
the help system and man pages and notes I have from a unix class from a few 
years ago.  That should be enough to keep me busy for a while.

Again, thanks much for the help.

Enjoy!
Bruce

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tony seth" <lp800@samobile.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces


> Okay, so the install worked... that's good... I've also had the same 
> problem with 8.4 as well as earlier versions with accessing some of the 
> administrative tools on the system menu.  As for shell commands, that I 
> can help ya there.  To run a command do the key combo of alt-f2 which will 
> be pretty self explanitory.  Type in gnome-terminal don't miss out the 
> dash, and you'll hear ubuntu at ubuntu.  There's your command promt, and 
> with speech too.  As for getting speech from the text console, I mean the 
> real one, you'll have to get a kernel package from someone who's compiled 
> a custom kernel, or roll your own containing speakup, because the removed 
> it from this version.  Hth... must get back to work now...
> Cheereo!
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* Re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces
@  tony seth
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: tony seth @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Okay, so the install worked... that's good... I've also had the same 
problem with 8.4 as well as earlier versions with accessing some of the 
administrative tools on the system menu.  As for shell commands, that I 
can help ya there.  To run a command do the key combo of alt-f2 which 
will be pretty self explanitory.  Type in gnome-terminal don't miss out 
the dash, and you'll hear ubuntu at ubuntu.  There's your command 
promt, and with speech too.  As for getting speech from the text 
console, I mean the real one, you'll have to get a kernel package from 
someone who's compiled a custom kernel, or roll your own containing 
speakup, because the removed it from this version.  Hth... must get 
back to work now...
Cheereo!

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* Re: installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces
@  tony seth
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: tony seth @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi all... For what it's worth, I've gotten the 8.4 release to work on 
one computer, but not the other.  The way I did it was first, when the 
cd starts spinning, the first thing that comes up is a language dialog, 
for which English is the default, just hit enter there, it spins a bit 
more, then hit down arrow once, for the install, from there do the f5 3 
enter enter and it should work, but on one of my computers the eee pc 
to be exact, it dies right after the second enter, but on my desktop it 
works just fine...
I'll be tickled if they include speakup eventually, which I guess they 
will since it appearently will be in the latest Debian... so there it is...
Hth.

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* installing ubuntu with what may be missing pieces
@  Bruce Noblick
   ` luke
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Noblick @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup info

First, thanks to all for giving me the info to get through a couple of successful tries, putting different variations of ubuntu on the new machine I built. The last one was done using the live CD.  By using the references in other notes on this list, I got it to come up speaking.

Second, Here are some questions.  What will it take to get to a shell? What must I do to get speech from the shell, not just from the GUI?

Since I have installed this on a clean system, I would be willing to start over if that would be a better way to do things.  I have no reason to be tied to any particular distro if another one would be easier to get working fully.

Thanks!

Bruce Noblick 




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