April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

[Chris Brannon]

Hi list,
It's finally here, as promised!
If you don't know about TalkingArch, it is my Speakup-modified ArchLinux
install CD.  Actually, "CD" is a bit of a convenient misnomer.
The images are suitable for both recordable CDs and USB flash drives.
They are so-called "hybrid" .iso files.
You can download it here:
http://the-brannons.com/tarch/

I made a couple of improvements.  First, it is now available for both
the i686 and x86_64 architectures.  Second, I now include a brltty package
on the CD, for those who have braille displays.

-- Chris

Re: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

[Glenn Ervin]

Chris,
Which branch of Linux is ArchLinux?
Is it of its own, or is it Debian or one of the others?
I am most familiar with Debian with Gnome & command-line with the terminal.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Brannon" <cmbrannon79@gmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:19 PM
Subject: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD


Hi list,
It's finally here, as promised!
If you don't know about TalkingArch, it is my Speakup-modified ArchLinux
install CD.  Actually, "CD" is a bit of a convenient misnomer.
The images are suitable for both recordable CDs and USB flash drives.
They are so-called "hybrid" .iso files.
You can download it here:
http://the-brannons.com/tarch/

I made a couple of improvements.  First, it is now available for both
the i686 and x86_64 architectures.  Second, I now include a brltty package
on the CD, for those who have braille displays.

-- Chris
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Re: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

[Michael Whapples]

ArchLinux is its own system using pacman and .pkg.tar.gz/.pkg.tar.xz 
packages.

There is a page on the Arch wiki comparing it to other distributions and 
other unix systems (eg. freebsd), 
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions.

I originally started with slackware, moved to debian for quite a time 
and now moved onto ArchLinux, if you like a system where you configure 
it for your needs its good, if you want everything done for you and GUI 
tools only (don't think you are from what you say) then Arch may not be 
for you. One thing I like is that they say they try for technical 
simplicity.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Glenn Ervin wrote:
> Chris,
> Which branch of Linux is ArchLinux?
> Is it of its own, or is it Debian or one of the others?
> I am most familiar with Debian with Gnome&  command-line with the terminal.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Brannon"<cmbrannon79@gmail.com>
> To:<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:19 PM
> Subject: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD
>
>
>
> Hi list,
> It's finally here, as promised!
> If you don't know about TalkingArch, it is my Speakup-modified ArchLinux
> install CD.  Actually, "CD" is a bit of a convenient misnomer.
> The images are suitable for both recordable CDs and USB flash drives.
> They are so-called "hybrid" .iso files.
> You can download it here:
> http://the-brannons.com/tarch/
>
> I made a couple of improvements.  First, it is now available for both
> the i686 and x86_64 architectures.  Second, I now include a brltty package
> on the CD, for those who have braille displays.
>
> -- Chris
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Re: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

[Michael Whapples]

As I am planning (its finding the time) to re-record my install 
tutorials I will probably cover these. The question is, you've removed 
two of the advantages of the GRML install, how much value might there be 
in redoing the GRML installation of Arch?

I can think of a couple of advantages, what do others think:
* Wireless with GRML may be easier, I can't remember if the Arch install 
CD has wireless, but grml-network is really good for setting up the network.
* GRML may support more soundcards (I mean as well as drivers, I mean it 
may unmute more correctly).
* If you like reading docs, etc while installing or may want other 
tools, GRML has lots of great stuff on the CD.

I personally feel the Arch installer is the best way to go as it guides 
you through the process and so helps stop you forget a step. So long as 
people feel there really is a need for the installing from GRML I will 
try and support it, so please let me know if you want that.

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Chris Brannon wrote:
> Hi list,
> It's finally here, as promised!
> If you don't know about TalkingArch, it is my Speakup-modified ArchLinux
> install CD.  Actually, "CD" is a bit of a convenient misnomer.
> The images are suitable for both recordable CDs and USB flash drives.
> They are so-called "hybrid" .iso files.
> You can download it here:
> http://the-brannons.com/tarch/
>
> I made a couple of improvements.  First, it is now available for both
> the i686 and x86_64 architectures.  Second, I now include a brltty package
> on the CD, for those who have braille displays.
>
> -- Chris
>
>    

Re: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

[Chris Brannon]

Michael Whapples wrote:
> As I am planning (its finding the time) to re-record my install 
> tutorials I will probably cover these.

Great!  I still need to document the brltty stuff in my wiki article.
Basically, you can have braille support at boot by adding the brltty
parameter at the boot prompt.
The brltty parameter consists of three comma-separated fields:
driver, device, and table.
E.G., to have the driver automatically detected, using a braille display
on the first serial port, with the US English text table, we'd enter this
command at the boot prompt:
arch brltty=auto,ttyS0,en_US
Of course, brltty can also be started after boot, from the shell.

> The question is, you've removed 
> two of the advantages of the GRML install, how much value might there be 
> in redoing the GRML installation of Arch?

Yes, the two main advantages are gone.  I'm sorry for not doing this sooner!
There's less need for the "install from grml" approach now.
But perhaps it's still nice to know, as a stand-by method.

> * Wireless with GRML may be easier, I can't remember if the Arch install 
> CD has wireless, but grml-network is really good for setting up the network.

It does have wireless.  If you want WPA, you'll have to write a
wpa_supplicant.conf file.
That's not hard, unless you have a complex wireless setup.

> * GRML may support more soundcards (I mean as well as drivers, I mean it 
> may unmute more correctly).

Maybe.  However, my unmute script is basically the same alsa startup script
used on the Debian-based distros.
You can look at it on the CD.  The path is
/etc/rc.d/livecdsound.

> * If you like reading docs, etc while installing or may want other 
> tools, GRML has lots of great stuff on the CD.

Yes, grml provides a very nice live environment.

-- Chris

Re: April 2010 release of the TalkingArch CD

[Al Sten-Clanton]

On 04/27/2010 07:24 AM, Michael Whapples wrote:
> As I am planning (its finding the time) to re-record my install 
> tutorials I will probably cover these. The question is, you've removed 
> two of the advantages of the GRML install, how much value might there 
> be in redoing the GRML installation of Arch?
>
> I can think of a couple of advantages, what do others think:
> * Wireless with GRML may be easier, I can't remember if the Arch 
> install CD has wireless, but grml-network is really good for setting 
> up the network.
> * GRML may support more soundcards (I mean as well as drivers, I mean 
> it may unmute more correctly).
> * If you like reading docs, etc while installing or may want other 
> tools, GRML has lots of great stuff on the CD.
>
> I personally feel the Arch installer is the best way to go as it 
> guides you through the process and so helps stop you forget a step. So 
> long as people feel there really is a need for the installing from 
> GRML I will try and support it, so please let me know if you want that.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Chris Brannon wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> It's finally here, as promised!
>> If you don't know about TalkingArch, it is my Speakup-modified ArchLinux
>> install CD.  Actually, "CD" is a bit of a convenient misnomer.
>> The images are suitable for both recordable CDs and USB flash drives.
>> They are so-called "hybrid" .iso files.
>> You can download it here:
>> http://the-brannons.com/tarch/
>>
>> I made a couple of improvements.  First, it is now available for both
>> the i686 and x86_64 architectures.  Second, I now include a brltty 
>> package
>> on the CD, for those who have braille displays.
>>
>> -- Chris
>>
>
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Hi!  I can understand if you decide that the work of supporting the 
approach of installing by way of GRML is more than you can or want to 
do.  I think it is an excellent thing to do, however, if you are willing 
and able to do it.  GRML truly is one hell of a good thing.

Al