Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Cleverson Casarin Uliana]

What about investigating some accessible SSH client or server for your 
smartphone, then performing the installation from your smartphone onto 
the PC, or maybe the oposite, perform the installation on the PC and try 
to manage the output to be redirected to your smartphone so that the 
screen reader on the smartphone would speak it?

Greetings
Cleverson

Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Rob]

Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> wrote:


> What about investigating some accessible SSH client or server for your 
> smartphone...
Or what about braille?

Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Jude DaShiell]

That won't be a nice experience, slackware uses loads of ansi special 
characters in that setup program.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:51:06
> From: Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> What about investigating some accessible SSH client or server for your 
> smartphone, then performing the installation from your smartphone onto 
> the PC, or maybe the oposite, perform the installation on the PC and try 
> to manage the output to be redirected to your smartphone so that the 
> screen reader on the smartphone would speak it?
>
> Greetings
> Cleverson
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Techswing33]

Hi,

I'd love to know if there's a way to get a slackware install, or any
other distro to redirect output to a smart phone. Right now in virtual
machines I can make some installs work with a virtual serial port, a
smart phone redirect would be great if there was one that worked.

Dave

On 3/2/16, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> wrote:
> That won't be a nice experience, slackware uses loads of ansi special
> characters in that setup program.
>
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:51:06
>> From: Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
>> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>>
>> What about investigating some accessible SSH client or server for your
>> smartphone, then performing the installation from your smartphone onto
>> the PC, or maybe the oposite, perform the installation on the PC and try
>> to manage the output to be redirected to your smartphone so that the
>> screen reader on the smartphone would speak it?
>>
>> Greetings
>> Cleverson
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Mike Keithley]

Sadly the Dos installation went away somewhere around Slackware 9. You can still get it in early slackware distributions from ftp.slackware.com, but it probably wouldn't work unless you happen to have an old IDE hard disk.

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn  <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."  <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

>
>
> There used to be a slackware for DOS that I had for my first Linux 
> experience.
> It installed on FAT32.
> Whatever happened to that project?
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@gmail.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> 
> I already have a TalkingArch install on one of my machines here. I was going 
> to install Slackware in a virtual machine, because it's not a distribution I've 
> used before.
> 
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Kelly Prescott <kprescott@coolip.net> wrote:
> >
> > Haden, If you just want Linux and do not specifically need slackware, try 
> > TalkingArch Linux.
> > http://talkingarch.tk
> > It talks from the start, and while there is a bit of a curve to learn it, 
> > you can not only do the install yourself, but you can learn a great deal 
> > about Linux in the process.
> > Let me know if you have any questions about it.
> >
> > -- Kelly Prescott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Haden Pike
> > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:32 PM
> > To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for 
> > performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a 
> > sighted person to install it for me?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Haden Pike
> > Computer Science
> > University of Kentucky
> > Class of 2016
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Jude DaShiell]

I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but it may be possible.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Glenn wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 21:58:10
> From: Glenn <glennervin@cableone.net>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> Can that be done via SSH from another computer?
> Installing the OS that is.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@panix.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>
>
> Download and use slackware_current as a base and basis point for this
> work.  Slackware 14.1 doesn't even work with software speech and
> slackware_current may have a more modern kernel or kernels for you to
> use.  Another possibility may be you have to have generated a good
> initrd file for any screen reader to work any more with slackware.  I
> don't know that this is the case, but if so the speakup-install.txt and
> speakup.txt files could certainly do with some updating.
>
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Haden Pike wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:38:52
>> From: Haden Pike <haden.pike@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. 
>> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
>> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>>
>> Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.
>>
>> Haden Pike
>> Computer Science
>> University of Kentucky
>> Class of 2016
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to 
>>> install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your 
>>> machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each 
>>> piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of 
>>> shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and 
>>> manually reproduce what it does.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Cleverson
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Glenn]

Can that be done via SSH from another computer?
Installing the OS that is.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@panix.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer


Download and use slackware_current as a base and basis point for this
work.  Slackware 14.1 doesn't even work with software speech and
slackware_current may have a more modern kernel or kernels for you to
use.  Another possibility may be you have to have generated a good
initrd file for any screen reader to work any more with slackware.  I
don't know that this is the case, but if so the speakup-install.txt and
speakup.txt files could certainly do with some updating.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Haden Pike wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:38:52
> From: Haden Pike <haden.pike@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. 
> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>
> Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.
>
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to 
>> install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your 
>> machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each 
>> piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of 
>> shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and 
>> manually reproduce what it does.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Cleverson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
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>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Gregory Nowak]

Yes. The speakup-specific version was zipspeak, slackware's official
version was zipslack.

Greg


On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 09:17:36PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> zipspeak I think it was called.  Don't know if it's been cleared
> from the internet yet though.
> 


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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Gregory Nowak]

It was discontinued when umsdos support got dropped in I believe the
2.4.x series of kernels.

Greg


On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 08:09:54PM -0600, Glenn wrote:
> There used to be a slackware for DOS that I had for my first Linux 
> experience.
> It installed on FAT32.
> Whatever happened to that project?
> Glenn


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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Jude DaShiell]

zipspeak I think it was called.  Don't know if it's been cleared from the 
internet yet though.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Glenn wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 21:09:54
> From: Glenn <glennervin@cableone.net>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> There used to be a slackware for DOS that I had for my first Linux 
> experience.
> It installed on FAT32.
> Whatever happened to that project?
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@gmail.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>
>
> I already have a TalkingArch install on one of my machines here. I was going 
> to install Slackware in a virtual machine, because it?s not a distribution I?ve 
> used before.
>
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Kelly Prescott <kprescott@coolip.net> wrote:
>>
>> Haden, If you just want Linux and do not specifically need slackware, try 
>> TalkingArch Linux.
>> http://talkingarch.tk
>> It talks from the start, and while there is a bit of a curve to learn it, 
>> you can not only do the install yourself, but you can learn a great deal 
>> about Linux in the process.
>> Let me know if you have any questions about it.
>>
>> -- Kelly Prescott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Haden Pike
>> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:32 PM
>> To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for 
>> performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a 
>> sighted person to install it for me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Haden Pike
>> Computer Science
>> University of Kentucky
>> Class of 2016
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Glenn]

There used to be a slackware for DOS that I had for my first Linux 
experience.
It installed on FAT32.
Whatever happened to that project?
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haden Pike" <haden.pike@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer


I already have a TalkingArch install on one of my machines here. I was going 
to install Slackware in a virtual machine, because it’s not a distribution I’ve 
used before.

Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016



> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Kelly Prescott <kprescott@coolip.net> wrote:
>
> Haden, If you just want Linux and do not specifically need slackware, try 
> TalkingArch Linux.
> http://talkingarch.tk
> It talks from the start, and while there is a bit of a curve to learn it, 
> you can not only do the install yourself, but you can learn a great deal 
> about Linux in the process.
> Let me know if you have any questions about it.
>
> -- Kelly Prescott
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of 
> Haden Pike
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:32 PM
> To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>
> Hi all,
>
> I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for 
> performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a 
> sighted person to install it for me?
>
> Thanks,
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[John G Heim]

If you wrote a hardware speechsynthesizer emulator, it would  be useful 
in another way. If you are booting a server, most of which have serial 
ports, you could use a null modem cable to make a laptop act like a 
hardware speech synthesizer. In other words, anyone could build their 
own hardware speech synthesizer by installing your emulator on a laptop 
and connecting it to the other machine with a null modem cable. If you 
did it right, it would work with
jaws too.


On 03/02/2016 03:02 PM, Haden Pike wrote:
> Correct, I forgot about serial ports. I wonder if I could write software to emulate one of the supported hardware synthesizers.
>
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>>
>> Good point. Actually, I believe Haden said he's doing this in a
>> virtual machine. In that case, just give the guest a virtual serial
>> port, and connect to it from the host with minicom/screen/telnet.
>>
>> I haven't used slackware for the last 11 years or about, so can't give
>> you an exact boot sequence. However, when you get to a boot prompt of
>> the boot loader, pass:
>>
>> console=ttyS0,115200
>>
>> to the kernel, and you should hopefully be all set.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 10:44:16AM -0600, John G Heim wrote:
>>> One more thing that might be worth considering is a serial console
>>> install.  This would probably be way easier than manually
>>> reproducing the steps performed by the slackware installer. you'd
>>> need another computer and a null-modem cable. Oh,and both machines
>>> have to have serial ports.
>>> Tip: Null-modem cables are a glut on the market in used computer
>>> stores. New, they are about $5. But there is no reason to pay more
>>> than a dollar for one of those thingsat a used computer store.
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Haden Pike]

Correct, I forgot about serial ports. I wonder if I could write software to emulate one of the supported hardware synthesizers.

Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016



> On Mar 2, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> 
> Good point. Actually, I believe Haden said he's doing this in a
> virtual machine. In that case, just give the guest a virtual serial
> port, and connect to it from the host with minicom/screen/telnet.
> 
> I haven't used slackware for the last 11 years or about, so can't give
> you an exact boot sequence. However, when you get to a boot prompt of
> the boot loader, pass:
> 
> console=ttyS0,115200
> 
> to the kernel, and you should hopefully be all set.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 10:44:16AM -0600, John G Heim wrote:
>> One more thing that might be worth considering is a serial console
>> install.  This would probably be way easier than manually
>> reproducing the steps performed by the slackware installer. you'd
>> need another computer and a null-modem cable. Oh,and both machines
>> have to have serial ports.
>> Tip: Null-modem cables are a glut on the market in used computer
>> stores. New, they are about $5. But there is no reason to pay more
>> than a dollar for one of those thingsat a used computer store.
> 
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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Gregory Nowak]

Good point. Actually, I believe Haden said he's doing this in a
virtual machine. In that case, just give the guest a virtual serial
port, and connect to it from the host with minicom/screen/telnet.

I haven't used slackware for the last 11 years or about, so can't give
you an exact boot sequence. However, when you get to a boot prompt of
the boot loader, pass:

console=ttyS0,115200

to the kernel, and you should hopefully be all set.

Greg


On Wed, Mar 02, 2016 at 10:44:16AM -0600, John G Heim wrote:
> One more thing that might be worth considering is a serial console
> install.  This would probably be way easier than manually
> reproducing the steps performed by the slackware installer. you'd
> need another computer and a null-modem cable. Oh,and both machines
> have to have serial ports.
> Tip: Null-modem cables are a glut on the market in used computer
> stores. New, they are about $5. But there is no reason to pay more
> than a dollar for one of those thingsat a used computer store.


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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Jude DaShiell]

What you do with slackware after getting it up and speaking is to run 
the setup program on disc1 of the set or on the dvd.  The setup program 
itself runs scripts like setup.1 and setup.2 ..., setup.7 if I remember 
correctly is for setting up network connections.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, John G Heim wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:34:02
> From: John G Heim <jheim@math.wisc.edu>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> I could tell you how to install debian by manually repeating the steps 
> the installer does. But I am not sure that is possible in slackware. 
> Does slackware have a talking, live distro? Something like grml for 
> debian? With debian, what you would do is boot from a grml CD or thumb 
> drive, start speech, partition the hard drive, install a base system 
> (with debian this is done via debootstrap), install a kernel, install 
> grub and make sure it finds your kernel. You're done.  So there are 2 
> things you'd have to find the equivalent of, a live distro like grml and 
> the base system installer like debootstrap.  If you can find those 2 
> things, you're probably good.
>
> Another thing you might investigate are auto-installers for slackware. 
> For debian, there is this tool called fai (stands for fully automatic 
> installer). I don't know if there is a slack equivalent of that either.
> On 03/02/2016 09:38 AM, Haden Pike wrote:
>> Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.
>>
>> Haden Pike
>> Computer Science
>> University of Kentucky
>> Class of 2016
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to install 
> Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your machine, then 
> take the contents of the installation image and put each piece of software in 
> its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of shell script, you could 
> start reading the installer source code and manually reproduce what it does.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Cleverson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[John G Heim]

One more thing that might be worth considering is a serial console 
install.  This would probably be way easier than manually reproducing 
the steps performed by the slackware installer. you'd need another 
computer and a null-modem cable. Oh,and both machines have to have 
serial ports.
Tip: Null-modem cables are a glut on the market in used computer stores. 
New, they are about $5. But there is no reason to pay more than a dollar 
for one of those thingsat a used computer store.




On 03/02/2016 09:38 AM, Haden Pike wrote:
> Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.
>
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and manually reproduce what it does.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Cleverson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[John G Heim]

I could tell you how to install debian by manually repeating the steps 
the installer does. But I am not sure that is possible in slackware. 
Does slackware have a talking, live distro? Something like grml for 
debian? With debian, what you would do is boot from a grml CD or thumb 
drive, start speech, partition the hard drive, install a base system 
(with debian this is done via debootstrap), install a kernel, install 
grub and make sure it finds your kernel. You're done.  So there are 2 
things you'd have to find the equivalent of, a live distro like grml and 
the base system installer like debootstrap.  If you can find those 2 
things, you're probably good.

Another thing you might investigate are auto-installers for slackware.  
For debian, there is this tool called fai (stands for fully automatic 
installer). I don't know if there is a slack equivalent of that either.
On 03/02/2016 09:38 AM, Haden Pike wrote:
> Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.
>
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and manually reproduce what it does.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Cleverson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Jude DaShiell]

Download and use slackware_current as a base and basis point for this 
work.  Slackware 14.1 doesn't even work with software speech and 
slackware_current may have a more modern kernel or kernels for you to 
use.  Another possibility may be you have to have generated a good 
initrd file for any screen reader to work any more with slackware.  I 
don't know that this is the case, but if so the speakup-install.txt and 
speakup.txt files could certainly do with some updating.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Haden Pike wrote:

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:38:52
> From: Haden Pike <haden.pike@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.
>
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and manually reproduce what it does.
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> Cleverson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Haden Pike]

Good idea. Any thoughts from others before I try this.

Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016



> On Mar 2, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Cleverson Casarin Uliana <clcaul@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little of shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and manually reproduce what it does.
> 
> Greetings,
> Cleverson
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Cleverson Casarin Uliana]

Wouldn't it be possible to use a technique similar to that used to 
install Gentoo? You could enter into a distro already installed on your 
machine, then take the contents of the installation image and put each 
piece of software in its own place. More exactly, if you know a little 
of shell script, you could start reading the installer source code and 
manually reproduce what it does.

Greetings,
Cleverson

Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Haden Pike]

Thanks for the reply. You’ve certainly given me some ideas and things to think about.

Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016



> On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> wrote:
> 
> Not with slackware 14.1 and I suspect not with slackware_current either but you could write volkerdi@slackware.com and ask what the accessibility status is of slackware_current there may be a software speech capability in it by now but I doubt it.  I've read no news on this from slackware.com on their website and I suppose it's possible slackware.com could have given up on providing accessibility but I haven't read that either so don't quote me on that.  If slackware ever gets to a point it can work with a kickstart file though maybe many more things will become possible.
> 
> One website I read a while back had instructions for installing emacspeak as a screen reader environment and making a talking login prompt.
> Slackware does have an initialization file where boot up commands can be put once an iso gets put on a hard drive opened up edited then burnt to dvd again but you'd have to have commands you could put into it to get speech going.  I don't know if yasr can run a sound card, but if it can and you can come up with the commands that might be a possibility. Other thing you might try is searching slackbuilds.org for kickstart and see if anyone made a script to build it on slackware.
> 
> On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Haden Pike wrote:
> 
>> Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:32:22
>> From: Haden Pike <haden.pike@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>    <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
>> To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a sighted person to install it for me?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Haden Pike
>> Computer Science
>> University of Kentucky
>> Class of 2016
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Haden Pike]

I already have a TalkingArch install on one of my machines here. I was going to install Slackware in a virtual machine, because it’s not a distribution I’ve used before.

Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016



> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Kelly Prescott <kprescott@coolip.net> wrote:
> 
> Haden, If you just want Linux and do not specifically need slackware, try TalkingArch Linux.
> http://talkingarch.tk
> It talks from the start, and while there is a bit of a curve to learn it, you can not only do the install yourself, but you can learn a great deal about Linux in the process.
> Let me know if you have any questions about it.
> 
> -- Kelly Prescott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Haden Pike
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:32 PM
> To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a sighted person to install it for me?
> 
> Thanks,
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Kelly Prescott]

Haden, If you just want Linux and do not specifically need slackware, try TalkingArch Linux.
http://talkingarch.tk
It talks from the start, and while there is a bit of a curve to learn it, you can not only do the install yourself, but you can learn a great deal about Linux in the process.
Let me know if you have any questions about it.

-- Kelly Prescott




-----Original Message-----
From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Haden Pike
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:32 PM
To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

Hi all,

I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a sighted person to install it for me?

Thanks,
Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016



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Re: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Jude DaShiell]

Not with slackware 14.1 and I suspect not with slackware_current either 
but you could write volkerdi@slackware.com and ask what the 
accessibility status is of slackware_current there may be a software 
speech capability in it by now but I doubt it.  I've read no news on 
this from slackware.com on their website and I suppose it's possible 
slackware.com could have given up on providing accessibility but I 
haven't read that either so don't quote me on that.  If slackware ever 
gets to a point it can work with a kickstart file though maybe many more 
things will become possible.

One website I read a while back had instructions for installing 
emacspeak as a screen reader environment and making a talking login 
prompt.
Slackware does have an initialization file where boot up commands can be 
put once an iso gets put on a hard drive opened up edited then burnt to 
dvd again but you'd have to have commands you could put into it to get 
speech going.  I don't know if yasr can run a sound card, but if it can 
and you can come up with the commands that might be a possibility. 
Other thing you might try is searching slackbuilds.org for kickstart and 
see if anyone made a script to build it on slackware.

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Haden Pike wrote:

> Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:32:22
> From: Haden Pike <haden.pike@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> To: speakup@linux-speakup.org
> Subject: Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a sighted person to install it for me?
>
> Thanks,
> Haden Pike
> Computer Science
> University of Kentucky
> Class of 2016
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Installing Slackware Without Hardware Synthesizer

[Haden Pike]

Hi all,

I do not have a hardware synthesizer. Do I have any other options for performing an install of Slackware that do not involve me finding a sighted person to install it for me?

Thanks,
Haden Pike
Computer Science
University of Kentucky
Class of 2016