Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Marcel Oats]

Hi, I am wanting to install wheezy onto a new system so grabbed the 
latest netinst iso from the daily builds, using beta4 of the installer.  
Furthermore, I used dd to create a USB that I can install from.  So far 
as I understand it, you are still meant to be able to type s at the boot 
prompt for speakup?  Perhaps this is not working in the installer right 
now, or perhaps something has been changed?  When I boot into my older 
copy (around 2 months old I think it is) it works fine, but then 
complains about not being able to download a package from the mirror; 
even with a different mirror selected.  Hmm.
I think I may be missing something.  Yes I have tried it on another 
system (actually my NAS) that has speakup on it, and I don't get any 
sound using this new version of netinst either.

Thanks,
Sorry for any ignorance on my part.

Marcel

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[mattias]

and you have a hardware synth?
or debian speakup supports software synth?
Marcel Oats skrev 2012-12-25 02:55:
> Hi, I am wanting to install wheezy onto a new system so grabbed the 
> latest netinst iso from the daily builds, using beta4 of the 
> installer.  Furthermore, I used dd to create a USB that I can install 
> from.  So far as I understand it, you are still meant to be able to 
> type s at the boot prompt for speakup?  Perhaps this is not working in 
> the installer right now, or perhaps something has been changed?  When 
> I boot into my older copy (around 2 months old I think it is) it works 
> fine, but then complains about not being able to download a package 
> from the mirror; even with a different mirror selected.  Hmm.
> I think I may be missing something.  Yes I have tried it on another 
> system (actually my NAS) that has speakup on it, and I don't get any 
> sound using this new version of netinst either.
>
> Thanks,
> Sorry for any ignorance on my part.
>
> Marcel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Marcel Oats]

Hi, nope, I don't have a working hardware synth anymore.  I've used the 
software synth for a while now.

Marcel
On 12/25/2012 3:02 PM, mattias wrote:
> and you have a hardware synth?
> or debian speakup supports software synth?
> Marcel Oats skrev 2012-12-25 02:55:
>> Hi, I am wanting to install wheezy onto a new system so grabbed the 
>> latest netinst iso from the daily builds, using beta4 of the 
>> installer.  Furthermore, I used dd to create a USB that I can install 
>> from.  So far as I understand it, you are still meant to be able to 
>> type s at the boot prompt for speakup?  Perhaps this is not working 
>> in the installer right now, or perhaps something has been changed?  
>> When I boot into my older copy (around 2 months old I think it is) it 
>> works fine, but then complains about not being able to download a 
>> package from the mirror; even with a different mirror selected.  Hmm.
>> I think I may be missing something.  Yes I have tried it on another 
>> system (actually my NAS) that has speakup on it, and I don't get any 
>> sound using this new version of netinst either.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sorry for any ignorance on my part.
>>
>> Marcel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[mattias]

software synth???
how do you use it?
will it only work on the netins or on the dvd too?
Marcel Oats skrev 2012-12-25 03:11:
> Hi, nope, I don't have a working hardware synth anymore.  I've used 
> the software synth for a while now.
>
> Marcel
> On 12/25/2012 3:02 PM, mattias wrote:
>> and you have a hardware synth?
>> or debian speakup supports software synth?
>> Marcel Oats skrev 2012-12-25 02:55:
>>> Hi, I am wanting to install wheezy onto a new system so grabbed the 
>>> latest netinst iso from the daily builds, using beta4 of the 
>>> installer.  Furthermore, I used dd to create a USB that I can 
>>> install from.  So far as I understand it, you are still meant to be 
>>> able to type s at the boot prompt for speakup?  Perhaps this is not 
>>> working in the installer right now, or perhaps something has been 
>>> changed? When I boot into my older copy (around 2 months old I think 
>>> it is) it works fine, but then complains about not being able to 
>>> download a package from the mirror; even with a different mirror 
>>> selected.  Hmm.
>>> I think I may be missing something.  Yes I have tried it on another 
>>> system (actually my NAS) that has speakup on it, and I don't get any 
>>> sound using this new version of netinst either.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sorry for any ignorance on my part.
>>>
>>> Marcel
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Marcel Oats]

It's on the netinst, not sure if it's on the dvd as I haven't used them 
for ages.
All you do is type a lowercase s at the "boot:" prompt, after the cd has 
finished.

Marcel

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Samuel Thibault]

Marcel Oats, le Tue 25 Dec 2012 15:21:51 +1300, a écrit :
> It's on the netinst, not sure if it's on the dvd as I haven't used them for
> ages.

It's on all medias which have the graphical installer.

Samuel

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Marcel Oats, le Tue 25 Dec 2012 14:55:30 +1300, a écrit :
> So far as I understand it, you are still meant to be able to type s
> at the boot prompt for speakup?

That's what is documented, so that's what is supposed to work, of
course.

> Perhaps this is not working in the installer right now, or perhaps
> something has been changed?

It's supposed to work.

> I don't get any sound using this new version of netinst either.

> Sorry for any ignorance on my part.

Ignorance is not an issue.  What you just need is to look for where to
get the information.  The installer manual says to use s then enter, so
that's what is supposed to work.  The second source of information is
the debian accessibility wiki page:

http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility

And see what is there about what information to provide in case of
troubles:

“
If speech synthesis does not come up, we need information to find out
where the bug is.

First and foremost, we need the exact URL where you have downloaded the
installer image, otherwise we won't ever manage to find a bug which
could only exist on the image you have used (and which has to be fixed
too!)

Inside the installer, press alt-f2 to switch to a shell console, press
enter to start the shell, and type

amixer scontrols

and post the output to debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org so we
can know whether a sound card was detected and what the volume level
names are. If only an error message shows up, or if you do not have
resources to be able to read the shell console, please try to run a
live CD, make sound work with it, and post the output of lsmod to
debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org so we can know what sound driver
is missing.
”

Samuel

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Marcel Oats]

Hi Samuel: firstly speakup is working on the full dvd, so in the end I 
was able to use that, and updated from the net; our mirror is broken 
right now.
Yes I could go into a secondary shell on the netinst and modprobe 
speakup_soft, then espeak, and sound came up.
However it would appear that we were running the graphical installer, as 
going back to alt+f1 showed the usual messages when X starts.
I'm out shortly, but will boot into that installer and issue the alsa 
commands and just flick them through shortly.

I must have been redirected, for the iso was located at
http://hammurabi.acc.umu.se/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta4/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b4-amd64-netinst.iso


Cheers, thanks for the help; yes it should work.
Marcel

Re: Installing wheezy netinst with speakup; has this changed recently?

[Marcel Oats]

Hello Samuel and others; firstly I need to say that I have solved our 
problem, (it wasn't a problem in the first place, see below,) and secondly, 
there is actually no problem if you run the current netinst installer from a 
cd; but you knew that right?
Usually, I have taken these installers and done a
dd if=IsoName of=/dev/usb
so as I can run it from a USB stick to make the install faster.  This no 
longer works.
hmm.
Thanks anyway for your help.

Marcel