Installing Debian 7.3 on Uefi, using latest Netinst ISO

Installing Debian 7.3 on Uefi, using latest Netinst ISO

[Marcel Oats]

Hi, the usual sorry if it's been posted before and all that, I have browsed
the archives and haven't really found anything, or maybe haven't been 
looking in
the right place.
I have Gigabyte's Z87X-UD5H board in a new system, and want to have linux on
it as well as Win8.1.  This is the first board we have come across which
does not feature a legacy boot option; i.e. it only supports efi boot
partitions, though it will boot to an mbr partition after a lengthy pause.
I came across this situation before when booting the cd, but we were able to
boot the disk in legacy mode and give it the S parameter to start speakup
and install normally on another machine.
Here I cannot, though I can connect a braille display and use that during
the install.  When typing s followed by ENTER, the braille is running the
text installer but there is no speech.
I understand the EFI boot loader is different and so forth, but am wondering
if something is not being passed correctly?
It's just the usual Realtec soundcard and so forth, which seems to be
supported no problem on other machines, but USB audio doesn't work here
either, and I remember reading a year or so ago that this part was broken in
uefi mode; is this correct?
Interestingly (and I know this doesn't work but actually wonder why) if we
make a bootable USB with this netinst ISO, the machine boots from that, we
get the beep, but there is no speech.  The interesting thing, is that if we
boot it on another machine which comes up talking when I boot the cd on it,
the USB version of the same installer does not speak.  It works, but no
speech.
I'm alright with braille during the install if I have to be, but when
completed it doesn't speak when the new system is booted, so what is the
best way of getting speakup running on the system so as I can access the
CLI?

Thanks for any help.
Marcel

Re: Installing Debian 7.3 on Uefi, using latest Netinst ISO

[Kelly Prescott]

Ok, here goes...
I use UEFI systems and have no problems with my installers.
Heres is what I would like for you to try to elimnate some problems:
download the grml 64-bit image from http://grml.org
dd it to a USB drive.
go into the setup of your system and disable boot signature checking.
try to boot the USB drive and see if
1:  you hear the 3 tone beep at boot and then 2 if you hear the musical 
notes after the system boots.
if you hear the musical notes, press 'q' and then
type modprobe speakup_soft && espeakup
then see if you get speech.
Let me know how those steps go...
You can email me directly and I could even do a call or chat with you if 
necessary.
-- Kelly Prescott


On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Marcel Oats wrote:

> Hi, the usual sorry if it's been posted before and all that, I have browsed
> the archives and haven't really found anything, or maybe haven't been looking 
> in
> the right place.
> I have Gigabyte's Z87X-UD5H board in a new system, and want to have linux on
> it as well as Win8.1.  This is the first board we have come across which
> does not feature a legacy boot option; i.e. it only supports efi boot
> partitions, though it will boot to an mbr partition after a lengthy pause.
> I came across this situation before when booting the cd, but we were able to
> boot the disk in legacy mode and give it the S parameter to start speakup
> and install normally on another machine.
> Here I cannot, though I can connect a braille display and use that during
> the install.  When typing s followed by ENTER, the braille is running the
> text installer but there is no speech.
> I understand the EFI boot loader is different and so forth, but am wondering
> if something is not being passed correctly?
> It's just the usual Realtec soundcard and so forth, which seems to be
> supported no problem on other machines, but USB audio doesn't work here
> either, and I remember reading a year or so ago that this part was broken in
> uefi mode; is this correct?
> Interestingly (and I know this doesn't work but actually wonder why) if we
> make a bootable USB with this netinst ISO, the machine boots from that, we
> get the beep, but there is no speech.  The interesting thing, is that if we
> boot it on another machine which comes up talking when I boot the cd on it,
> the USB version of the same installer does not speak.  It works, but no
> speech.
> I'm alright with braille during the install if I have to be, but when
> completed it doesn't speak when the new system is booted, so what is the
> best way of getting speakup running on the system so as I can access the
> CLI?
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Marcel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: Installing Debian 7.3 on Uefi, using latest Netinst ISO

[Kelly Prescott]

The reason I suggest the grml image, is it usually talks for me and you 
can install Debian with it.  It is a bit of a manual procedure, but it is 
not all that bad.

If you decide to dual boot, install your windows 8 first, then do your 
Linux install...
I have seen the windows 8 installer trash a linux install...
I am not sure if it was my fault or not, but I know Linux will not trash 
windows 8.
Also, you can setup your grub to boot either OS.


On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Kelly Prescott wrote:

> Ok, here goes...
> I use UEFI systems and have no problems with my installers.
> Heres is what I would like for you to try to elimnate some problems:
> download the grml 64-bit image from http://grml.org
> dd it to a USB drive.
> go into the setup of your system and disable boot signature checking.
> try to boot the USB drive and see if
> 1:  you hear the 3 tone beep at boot and then 2 if you hear the musical notes 
> after the system boots.
> if you hear the musical notes, press 'q' and then
> type modprobe speakup_soft && espeakup
> then see if you get speech.
> Let me know how those steps go...
> You can email me directly and I could even do a call or chat with you if 
> necessary.
> -- Kelly Prescott
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Marcel Oats wrote:
>
>>  Hi, the usual sorry if it's been posted before and all that, I have
>>  browsed
>>  the archives and haven't really found anything, or maybe haven't been
>>  looking in
>>  the right place.
>>  I have Gigabyte's Z87X-UD5H board in a new system, and want to have linux
>>  on
>>  it as well as Win8.1.  This is the first board we have come across which
>>  does not feature a legacy boot option; i.e. it only supports efi boot
>>  partitions, though it will boot to an mbr partition after a lengthy pause.
>>  I came across this situation before when booting the cd, but we were able
>>  to
>>  boot the disk in legacy mode and give it the S parameter to start speakup
>>  and install normally on another machine.
>>  Here I cannot, though I can connect a braille display and use that during
>>  the install.  When typing s followed by ENTER, the braille is running the
>>  text installer but there is no speech.
>>  I understand the EFI boot loader is different and so forth, but am
>>  wondering
>>  if something is not being passed correctly?
>>  It's just the usual Realtec soundcard and so forth, which seems to be
>>  supported no problem on other machines, but USB audio doesn't work here
>>  either, and I remember reading a year or so ago that this part was broken
>>  in
>>  uefi mode; is this correct?
>>  Interestingly (and I know this doesn't work but actually wonder why) if we
>>  make a bootable USB with this netinst ISO, the machine boots from that, we
>>  get the beep, but there is no speech.  The interesting thing, is that if
>>  we
>>  boot it on another machine which comes up talking when I boot the cd on
>>  it,
>>  the USB version of the same installer does not speak.  It works, but no
>>  speech.
>>  I'm alright with braille during the install if I have to be, but when
>>  completed it doesn't speak when the new system is booted, so what is the
>>  best way of getting speakup running on the system so as I can access the
>>  CLI?
>>
>>  Thanks for any help.
>>  Marcel
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Speakup mailing list
>>  Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>  http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> 
>> 
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