hello from a new member

hello from a new member

[Aruni Sharma]

hello listers. this is Aruni from india. I have started using linux
quite recently. I have been a windows user. I am trying to switch to
linux. I have tried ubuntu and opensuse 11.1 beta. Could someone guide
me how to install speakup and use it on these two distros? Please note
that I use software synths.
Thanks and regards,
Aruni.

Re: hello from a new member

[Michael Whapples]

Hello,
Not using either of those distros I don't know if they have a way you 
can create a kernel with speakup and make it a package you install. If 
they do then you might want to go that route as hopefully you would use 
basically the same config and so might be able to use the modules from 
the distro.

An alternative is to look at those distros which include speakup or 
speakup packages (this is why I stick with slackware, although it 
doesn't allow installing by software synth). GRML (www.grml.org) is 
debian based and has a software synth on the CD. You may want to look at 
it. GRML can be run as a live CD (good for system maintainance or just 
learning about speakup), or you can install GRML to hard disk, or there 
is a script to create a debian installation.

If you resort to just generic instructions for compiling a kernel with 
speakup, there are many docs online about compiling kernels. One I use 
(mainly because I use slackware) is the slackware details for creating a 
speakup enabled kernel (although fairly generic)
ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT 
<ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT>
. If you aren't using an existing config which specifies using speakup 
then remember when configuring the kernel (make menuconfig) to enable 
speakup and the software synth option. Also some distos (I think ubuntu 
is one of them) use grub instead of lilo, make sure that you update grub 
so it knows about the new kernel if grub is used instead of updating lilo.

It really is easier to start with a pre-compiled kernel (particularly if 
you aren't used to kernel configuration).

Michael Whapples

On 23/12/42 20:59, Aruni Sharma wrote:
> hello listers. this is Aruni from india. I have started using linux
> quite recently. I have been a windows user. I am trying to switch to
> linux. I have tried ubuntu and opensuse 11.1 beta. Could someone guide
> me how to install speakup and use it on these two distros? Please note
> that I use software synths.
> Thanks and regards,
> Aruni.
>
>    

Re: hello from a new member

[Alonzo]

hello,

You oculd also install speakup as a module.
You can downlaod it from git
git clone git://hubbs.homedns.org/speakup;git
You would change to the speakup directory then change to src once in the 
speakup directory.
then you do
make
make install_modules (this last command... I always get confused with) it 
could be make modules_install
then you would download espeakup
git clone git://hubbs.homedns.org/espeakup.git
You woudl then change to the espeakup direcotry and do
make
make install
Note- when installing the above compiled package from source you need to 
have the header packages for your kurnel. Enable to install espeakup you 
need espeak synth, and portaudio. You will also need the libraries for 
espeakup and portaudio.
I am not sure what packages you need f or the two distros.
for ubuntu it should be libportaudio and linux headers for your kernel i386 
or x8664 and hte kernel version. So it could be linux headers 2.6.27-i386 or 
x8664. for the development files for espeak it might be espeak-dev or 
libespeak. I'm not sure what packages you wouudl need for opensuse. these 
are just packages for ubuntu. Debian renames their packages, so you may find 
them with different names in Ubuntu.

Alonzo

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Subject: Re: hello from a new member


> Hello,
> Not using either of those distros I don't know if they have a way you can 
> create a kernel with speakup and make it a package you install. If they do 
> then you might want to go that route as hopefully you would use basically 
> the same config and so might be able to use the modules from the distro.
>
> An alternative is to look at those distros which include speakup or 
> speakup packages (this is why I stick with slackware, although it doesn't 
> allow installing by software synth). GRML (www.grml.org) is debian based 
> and has a software synth on the CD. You may want to look at it. GRML can 
> be run as a live CD (good for system maintainance or just learning about 
> speakup), or you can install GRML to hard disk, or there is a script to 
> create a debian installation.
>
> If you resort to just generic instructions for compiling a kernel with 
> speakup, there are many docs online about compiling kernels. One I use 
> (mainly because I use slackware) is the slackware details for creating a 
> speakup enabled kernel (although fairly generic)
> ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT 
> <ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT>
> . If you aren't using an existing config which specifies using speakup 
> then remember when configuring the kernel (make menuconfig) to enable 
> speakup and the software synth option. Also some distos (I think ubuntu is 
> one of them) use grub instead of lilo, make sure that you update grub so 
> it knows about the new kernel if grub is used instead of updating lilo.
>
> It really is easier to start with a pre-compiled kernel (particularly if 
> you aren't used to kernel configuration).
>
> Michael Whapples
>
> On 23/12/42 20:59, Aruni Sharma wrote:
>> hello listers. this is Aruni from india. I have started using linux
>> quite recently. I have been a windows user. I am trying to switch to
>> linux. I have tried ubuntu and opensuse 11.1 beta. Could someone guide
>> me how to install speakup and use it on these two distros? Please note
>> that I use software synths.
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Aruni.
>>
>>
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Re: hello from a new member

[Gregory Nowak]

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Actually, if you're using a 2.6.x or later kernel, you don't even need
to patch the kernel; you can just build speakup as modules. This is
described here:

http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup/2008-May/046202.html

Hth.

Greg


On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:45:26PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> Not using either of those distros I don't know if they have a way you  
> can create a kernel with speakup and make it a package you install. If  
> they do then you might want to go that route as hopefully you would use  
> basically the same config and so might be able to use the modules from  
> the distro.
>
> An alternative is to look at those distros which include speakup or  
> speakup packages (this is why I stick with slackware, although it  
> doesn't allow installing by software synth). GRML (www.grml.org) is  
> debian based and has a software synth on the CD. You may want to look at  
> it. GRML can be run as a live CD (good for system maintainance or just  
> learning about speakup), or you can install GRML to hard disk, or there  
> is a script to create a debian installation.
>
> If you resort to just generic instructions for compiling a kernel with  
> speakup, there are many docs online about compiling kernels. One I use  
> (mainly because I use slackware) is the slackware details for creating a  
> speakup enabled kernel (although fairly generic)
 
> ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT 
>  
> <ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT>
> . If you aren't using an existing config which specifies using speakup  
> then remember when configuring the kernel (make menuconfig) to enable  
> speakup and the software synth option. Also some distos (I think ubuntu  
> is one of them) use grub instead of lilo, make sure that you update grub  
> so it knows about the new kernel if grub is used instead of updating 
> lilo.
>
> It really is easier to start with a pre-compiled kernel (particularly if  
> you aren't used to kernel configuration).
>
> Michael Whapples


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Re: Re: hello from a new member

[Michael Whapples]

I knew speakup could be built as modules but didn't realise it could be 
compiled without compiling a kernel as well (I thought it patched a file 
in the kernel source and so the kernel was different). This does 
simplify things alot for people new to Linux.

Michael Whapples

On 23/12/42 20:59, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> Actually, if you're using a 2.6.x or later kernel, you don't even need
> to patch the kernel; you can just build speakup as modules. This is
> described here:
>
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/pipermail/speakup/2008-May/046202.html
>
> Hth.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:45:26PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
>    
>> Hello,
>> Not using either of those distros I don't know if they have a way you
>> can create a kernel with speakup and make it a package you install. If
>> they do then you might want to go that route as hopefully you would use
>> basically the same config and so might be able to use the modules from
>> the distro.
>>
>> An alternative is to look at those distros which include speakup or
>> speakup packages (this is why I stick with slackware, although it
>> doesn't allow installing by software synth). GRML (www.grml.org) is
>> debian based and has a software synth on the CD. You may want to look at
>> it. GRML can be run as a live CD (good for system maintainance or just
>> learning about speakup), or you can install GRML to hard disk, or there
>> is a script to create a debian installation.
>>
>> If you resort to just generic instructions for compiling a kernel with
>> speakup, there are many docs online about compiling kernels. One I use
>> (mainly because I use slackware) is the slackware details for creating a
>> speakup enabled kernel (although fairly generic)
>>      
>
>    
>> ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT
>>
>> <ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware/source/k/README_SPEAKUP_PATCH.TXT>
>> . If you aren't using an existing config which specifies using speakup
>> then remember when configuring the kernel (make menuconfig) to enable
>> speakup and the software synth option. Also some distos (I think ubuntu
>> is one of them) use grub instead of lilo, make sure that you update grub
>> so it knows about the new kernel if grub is used instead of updating
>> lilo.
>>
>> It really is easier to start with a pre-compiled kernel (particularly if
>> you aren't used to kernel configuration).
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>>      
>
>
>
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Re: Re: hello from a new member

[Willem van der Walt]

I think Greg ment "If you use a 2.6.26.x kernel"
Regards, Willem



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Re: Re: hello from a new member

[Gregory Nowak]

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Yes, I did. If that's not what I actually said, then apologies for the
error.

Greg


On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:08:40AM +0200, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> I think Greg ment "If you use a 2.6.26.x kernel"
> Regards, Willem
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