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From: Deedra Waters <deedra@the-brannons.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
	<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:36:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86lhopgpza.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54368FDC.1010704@math.wisc.edu> (John G. Heim's message of "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:38:36 -0500")

"John G. Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> writes:

> How do you know that the kernel panicked because of a speakup bug? I
> know that I've often thought that but upon closer inspection, it
> turned out that speakup generated error messages but they were really
> caused by something else.


Because my boss who had a hell of a lot more experience then i do dug
into it and found out it was a speakup bug.

I know you're convinced that speakup is perfect never has a bug and
crashes the kernel so i wont even try and convince you other wise but
there were people at that lab with a lot more experience then i and
they were access friendly. They took a chance with speakup, i had at
least  2 ocations where it crashed and it was a bug that was caused by
speakup. This was in 2004 now speakup is a lot more stable, but yes it
can and does cause the kernel to panick if you hit major bugs.

>
>
>
>
> On 10/08/14 18:16, Deedra Waters wrote:
>>   i was working at oregon state's open source lab and network admin
>> thing for a year and a half. Here's one situation.  i came across. Not
>> trying to antagonize anyone at all but here's what happened and this is
>> one reason why i dislike speakup in the kernel even though it's got a
>> lot of benifits.....Anyway......
>>
>> I was working at the lab. Debian was having a problem with one of their
>> my machines. The machine had crashed so i went to the dmz to kick it and
>> try and help them figure out their problem. We were happily working on
>> the box an hour or so later when i hit a speakup bug. The kernel
>> panicked, and the box crashed. $debiandeveloper lost their changes to
>> some config files. The end result was the lab lost their access to the
>> debian machine. I had a similar problem on another client's box. end
>> result, they flipped had speakup pulled from their kernels and i wasn't
>> allowed to work on their boxes.
>>
>> This is an extreme case, but it's also an important point in my concern.
>>
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Deedra Waters
 ` Brian Buhrow
   ` Deedra Waters
 ` Janina Sajka
   ` Deedra Waters
     ` Littlefield, Tyler
       ` Littlefield, Tyler
         ` Al Sten-Clanton
           ` Glenn
             ` Mike Ray
               ` Glenn
                 ` Littlefield, Tyler
                   ` Glenn
                   ` Mike Ray
                     ` Glenn
                 ` Tom Fowle
                   ` covici
                     ` Blake Hardin
                       ` Kyle
                     ` Kelly Prescott
                   ` Janina Sajka
                     ` Kelly Prescott
                       ` Janina Sajka
                   ` John G. Heim
             ` Janina Sajka
               ` Glenn
                 ` John G. Heim
       ` Janina Sajka
         ` Samuel Thibault
     ` John G. Heim
       ` covici
         ` John G. Heim
       ` Littlefield, Tyler
         ` John G. Heim
           ` covici
             ` speakup in the kernel John G. Heim
               ` covici
                 ` John G. Heim
               ` Samuel Thibault
                 ` covici
                   ` Samuel Thibault
                     ` covici
                 ` John G. Heim
                   ` Samuel Thibault
                     ` covici
       ` a little sysadmin story Janina Sajka
     ` Janina Sajka
 ` John G. Heim
   ` Deedra Waters [this message]
     ` John G. Heim

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