From: Deedra Waters <deedra@the-brannons.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:36:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86lhopgpza.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54368FDC.1010704@math.wisc.edu> (John G. Heim's message of "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:38:36 -0500")
"John G. Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> writes:
> How do you know that the kernel panicked because of a speakup bug? I
> know that I've often thought that but upon closer inspection, it
> turned out that speakup generated error messages but they were really
> caused by something else.
Because my boss who had a hell of a lot more experience then i do dug
into it and found out it was a speakup bug.
I know you're convinced that speakup is perfect never has a bug and
crashes the kernel so i wont even try and convince you other wise but
there were people at that lab with a lot more experience then i and
they were access friendly. They took a chance with speakup, i had at
least 2 ocations where it crashed and it was a bug that was caused by
speakup. This was in 2004 now speakup is a lot more stable, but yes it
can and does cause the kernel to panick if you hit major bugs.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/08/14 18:16, Deedra Waters wrote:
>> i was working at oregon state's open source lab and network admin
>> thing for a year and a half. Here's one situation. i came across. Not
>> trying to antagonize anyone at all but here's what happened and this is
>> one reason why i dislike speakup in the kernel even though it's got a
>> lot of benifits.....Anyway......
>>
>> I was working at the lab. Debian was having a problem with one of their
>> my machines. The machine had crashed so i went to the dmz to kick it and
>> try and help them figure out their problem. We were happily working on
>> the box an hour or so later when i hit a speakup bug. The kernel
>> panicked, and the box crashed. $debiandeveloper lost their changes to
>> some config files. The end result was the lab lost their access to the
>> debian machine. I had a similar problem on another client's box. end
>> result, they flipped had speakup pulled from their kernels and i wasn't
>> allowed to work on their boxes.
>>
>> This is an extreme case, but it's also an important point in my concern.
>>
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` Brian Buhrow
` Deedra Waters
` Janina Sajka
` Deedra Waters
` Littlefield, Tyler
` Littlefield, Tyler
` Al Sten-Clanton
` Glenn
` Mike Ray
` Glenn
` Littlefield, Tyler
` Glenn
` Mike Ray
` Glenn
` Tom Fowle
` covici
` Blake Hardin
` Kyle
` Kelly Prescott
` Janina Sajka
` Kelly Prescott
` Janina Sajka
` John G. Heim
` Janina Sajka
` Glenn
` John G. Heim
` Janina Sajka
` Samuel Thibault
` John G. Heim
` covici
` John G. Heim
` Littlefield, Tyler
` John G. Heim
` covici
` speakup in the kernel John G. Heim
` covici
` John G. Heim
` Samuel Thibault
` covici
` Samuel Thibault
` covici
` John G. Heim
` Samuel Thibault
` covici
` a little sysadmin story Janina Sajka
` Janina Sajka
` John G. Heim
` Deedra Waters [this message]
` John G. Heim
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