Re: a little sysadmin story

[Glenn <glennervin@cableone.net>]

I think that the optican was different in that it used a video camera.
My thought here is to capture the video signal as it would be going to a 
monitor, and send it directly to be processed OCR,, and then it could either 
go to a Braille display, or TTS.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Glenn" <glennervin@gmail.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for 
Linux." <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story


Glenn, are you talking about the Opticon? Didn't someone start
remanufacturing that relatively recently?


Glenn writes:
> What we need is a piece of hardware that does OCR directly from the video
> port.
> It seems like that would be a relatively easy device to produce, given 
> what
> we have these days.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
> To: <tyler@tysdomain.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story
>
>
> First, I thank Janina for raising certain issues better than I could.
> (I also thank others who've made valuable points from different angles.)
>
> Second, where is the equivalent code for kicking in the monitor when we
> boot up?  Shouldn't the aim be to treat our access technology in the
> same or an equivalent way, to the degree possible?
>
> Al
>
> On 10/09/2014 09:55 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> > I also wanted to point out that most companies and organizations are a
> > bit weird about installing anything. The fact that Speakup is in the
> > kernel, but the entire idea of installing a special program which
> > they're not sure of, be it screen reader or magnification bothers most
> > people, so this isn't just an issue of Speakup possibly being better.
> > There are reasons and there obviously is a need for speakup to get
> > better, perhaps that means coming out of kernel space. But a sad story
> > from once upon a time with a moral unrelated is not quite the point.
> > On 10/9/2014 9:46 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> >> This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to make
> >> it all interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues,
> >> but apart from known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel all
> >> the time. Speakup caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should
> >> also backup their work.
> >> On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote:
> >>> Janina,
> >>>
> >>> speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a
> >>> monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with 
> >>> speakup.
> >>>
> >>> As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to
> >>> begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i 
> >>> was
> >>> helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash.
> >>>
> >>> Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to 
> >>> begin
> >>> with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to
> >>> begin with.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it
> >>> wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes
> >>> it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes
> >>> down the whole box.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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