Re: testing grml

["Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>]

One question though, how useful was previous versions of GRML's support for 
speakup for boot messages as speakup was loaded half way through the boot 
process anyway? Also for software speech people there is little difference 
as in previous releases you still did not have speech until you typed 
swspeak after booting finished.

I have to say considering things, what has come out is pretty good and is 
much better than many distros give. May be things could be perfected a bit 
more, however for that you may really be looking towards a distribution with 
its speciality being accessibility, like it is with vinux.

Michael Whapples

-----Original Message----- 
From: John G. Heim
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:11 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: testing grml

Yes, that's what it means.  But its not as bad as it sounds. Instead of
typing something at the isolinux boot prompt, which is problematic anyway,
you wait until the machine is done booting and then type a command to load
the speakup module for your synth. In fact, that's easier because you will
know when the machine is done booting because of the tone. It plays a 4 note
tone when the boot process is done.  You then have to press a 'q' to quit
the grml menu and then type in a modprobe command. In your case, you'd press
the q and then type 'modprobe speakup_ltlk'.

The only issue, of course, is that you will miss boot messages. However,
those are accessible via a serial console. In my opinion, accessing the boot
messages via a serial console is better anyway because then you can save
them. If grml doesn't boot, and you want to get support from the grml
developers, you can cut and paste from your terminal emulator into an email
message.

You do need a null modem cable and a second computer to do a serial console.
But last time I bought a null modem cable it was $5, considerably less
expensive than a hardware speech synth.  In fact, if you ask around you
might be able to find a null modem cable for free because people used to use
a product called laplink which included a null modem cable. If you ask
around, you might be able to find someone to give you a null modem or a
laplink cable (same thing) for free.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: testing grml


> John, I hope this doesn't sound like a stupid question, but does this mean 
> you can't get hardware speech by typing, in my case,
>
> grml speakup.synth=ltlk
>
> when you're booting up?  (I presume I typed that command right.)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Al
>
> On 12/28/2011 10:35 AM, John G. Heim wrote:
>> The latest release simply has all the speakup modules included. So you
>> can just type in a modprobe command to start speakup. I have a
>> tripletalk hardware synth so I type, 'modprobe speakup_ltlk' at a
>> command prompt.
>>
>> You can also use software speech by typing 'modprobe speakup_soft' and
>> then 'espeakup'.
>>
>> The only problem I have is not specific to grml. It looks like the
>> speakup bug in the speakup_ltlk module is still there. The speakup_ltlk
>> module doesn't load on 64 bit hardware. Even the 32 bit version of the
>> module doesn't work on 64 bit hardware.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 3:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: testing grml
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Did you ever get an answer how to get speakup up and happening under
>>> new grml?
>>> sure it beeps when quick config menu comes up but not sure what to do
>>> with that and no eyes here at the moment.
>>> will report back to the list if I get this sorted.
>>>
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>
>>> On 15/12/2011 11:35 PM, John Heim wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> First of all, grml has a new release candidate out. They could use
>>>> people to test accessibility. Point a vrowser to http://bit.ly/sESUaa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Second, is there a command to unmute the sound card? I mean, I know you
>>>> can do that with a mixer but I need a command to do it because if there
>>>> is no sound, I can't run the mixer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure that software speech is working on this latest grml
>>>> release but I can't confirm it because I can't get sound to work. And I
>>>> think that's because the sound card is muted.
>>>>
>>>>
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