system with speakup software already installed?

system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

Hello list,
I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never had 
much luck with the software speech).
I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point 
(really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup already 
set up and installed for software speech.


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kerry Hoath]

There is viubuntu; not sure if it has speakup or just gnome and orca.

I have tried to summarize what I did here as all this seems to be in pieces 
scattered across the speakup archives.
I might try updating the install documents for speakup as they are wofully 
out of date.

Corrections, shortcuts, better ways to integrate this with module-assistant 
or welcome.

You want a distribution with 2.6.26 or later kernel, and the headers 
installed the below assumes Ubuntu Intrepid.
I got this working yesterday it was not difficult in a nutshell I did the 
following:

This was an install to an eeepc 701 for anyone who cares.

Got someone to install ubuntu 8.10 for me and checked the ssh server option 
off the server cd.

finished up the install and rebooted off the flash disk in the eeepc.

sudo su once logged in via ssh (or ssh in as root if you like)
apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r`

apt-get install git git-core
apt-get install espeak libespeak-dev

now test your audio setup because alsa needs to work properly before you 
mess with software speech.
There's no point configuring speakup and espeakup and espeak if the 
underlying frameworks are broken.
I installed an mp3 player,
apt-get install mpg321
and played an mp3 to insure mixer was correctly set.
espeak "testing speech this should work"

If your box talks you're in good shape.

cd /usr/src
git-clone git://hubbs.homedns.org/speakup.git

cd speakup/src
make modules
make modules_install

cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/speakup
cp * ..
depmod -a

not sure if that is necessary or not as the modules did not seem to be seen 
without moving them up a level.

cd /usr/src/speakup/contrib
tar xjf espeakup-0.4.tar.bz2
cd espeakup-0.4
make
make install

modprobe speakup_soft

espeakupd

now hit enter on your console and you should have speech.


any ways to script this into initrd images, fire this up on boot etc; I will 
flesh this out into a mini-howto.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: system with speakup software already installed?


> Hello list,
> I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never 
> had much luck with the software speech).
> I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point 
> (really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup already 
> set up and installed for software speech.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
I'm only having one problem with this.
I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there are no 
kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
how would I generate the "build" directory under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> There is viubuntu; not sure if it has speakup or just gnome and orca.
>
> I have tried to summarize what I did here as all this seems to be in 
> pieces scattered across the speakup archives.
> I might try updating the install documents for speakup as they are wofully 
> out of date.
>
> Corrections, shortcuts, better ways to integrate this with 
> module-assistant or welcome.
>
> You want a distribution with 2.6.26 or later kernel, and the headers 
> installed the below assumes Ubuntu Intrepid.
> I got this working yesterday it was not difficult in a nutshell I did the 
> following:
>
> This was an install to an eeepc 701 for anyone who cares.
>
> Got someone to install ubuntu 8.10 for me and checked the ssh server 
> option off the server cd.
>
> finished up the install and rebooted off the flash disk in the eeepc.
>
> sudo su once logged in via ssh (or ssh in as root if you like)
> apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>
> apt-get install git git-core
> apt-get install espeak libespeak-dev
>
> now test your audio setup because alsa needs to work properly before you 
> mess with software speech.
> There's no point configuring speakup and espeakup and espeak if the 
> underlying frameworks are broken.
> I installed an mp3 player,
> apt-get install mpg321
> and played an mp3 to insure mixer was correctly set.
> espeak "testing speech this should work"
>
> If your box talks you're in good shape.
>
> cd /usr/src
> git-clone git://hubbs.homedns.org/speakup.git
>
> cd speakup/src
> make modules
> make modules_install
>
> cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/speakup
> cp * ..
> depmod -a
>
> not sure if that is necessary or not as the modules did not seem to be 
> seen without moving them up a level.
>
> cd /usr/src/speakup/contrib
> tar xjf espeakup-0.4.tar.bz2
> cd espeakup-0.4
> make
> make install
>
> modprobe speakup_soft
>
> espeakupd
>
> now hit enter on your console and you should have speech.
>
>
> any ways to script this into initrd images, fire this up on boot etc; I 
> will flesh this out into a mini-howto.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:35 AM
> Subject: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> Hello list,
>> I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never 
>> had much luck with the software speech).
>> I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point 
>> (really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup 
>> already set up and installed for software speech.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>> web: tysdomain-com
>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kerry Hoath]

Your kernel is too old.
You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.

Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.


the build directory will show up once you install
apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`

If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with kernel_package not 
by hand.
make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
then install the 2 packages.

If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link to point 
to your unpacked kernel source tree;
or at least the headers from same.
Regards, Kerry.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> hello,
> I'm only having one problem with this.
> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there are no 
> kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
> how would I generate the "build" directory under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> There is viubuntu; not sure if it has speakup or just gnome and orca.
>>
>> I have tried to summarize what I did here as all this seems to be in 
>> pieces scattered across the speakup archives.
>> I might try updating the install documents for speakup as they are 
>> wofully out of date.
>>
>> Corrections, shortcuts, better ways to integrate this with 
>> module-assistant or welcome.
>>
>> You want a distribution with 2.6.26 or later kernel, and the headers 
>> installed the below assumes Ubuntu Intrepid.
>> I got this working yesterday it was not difficult in a nutshell I did the 
>> following:
>>
>> This was an install to an eeepc 701 for anyone who cares.
>>
>> Got someone to install ubuntu 8.10 for me and checked the ssh server 
>> option off the server cd.
>>
>> finished up the install and rebooted off the flash disk in the eeepc.
>>
>> sudo su once logged in via ssh (or ssh in as root if you like)
>> apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>
>> apt-get install git git-core
>> apt-get install espeak libespeak-dev
>>
>> now test your audio setup because alsa needs to work properly before you 
>> mess with software speech.
>> There's no point configuring speakup and espeakup and espeak if the 
>> underlying frameworks are broken.
>> I installed an mp3 player,
>> apt-get install mpg321
>> and played an mp3 to insure mixer was correctly set.
>> espeak "testing speech this should work"
>>
>> If your box talks you're in good shape.
>>
>> cd /usr/src
>> git-clone git://hubbs.homedns.org/speakup.git
>>
>> cd speakup/src
>> make modules
>> make modules_install
>>
>> cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/speakup
>> cp * ..
>> depmod -a
>>
>> not sure if that is necessary or not as the modules did not seem to be 
>> seen without moving them up a level.
>>
>> cd /usr/src/speakup/contrib
>> tar xjf espeakup-0.4.tar.bz2
>> cd espeakup-0.4
>> make
>> make install
>>
>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>
>> espeakupd
>>
>> now hit enter on your console and you should have speech.
>>
>>
>> any ways to script this into initrd images, fire this up on boot etc; I 
>> will flesh this out into a mini-howto.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:35 AM
>> Subject: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never 
>>> had much luck with the software speech).
>>> I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point 
>>> (really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup 
>>> already set up and installed for software speech.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 2.4 
for some stupid reason.


Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Your kernel is too old.
> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>
> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>
>
> the build directory will show up once you install
> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>
> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with kernel_package 
> not by hand.
> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
> then install the 2 packages.
>
> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link to 
> point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
> or at least the headers from same.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> hello,
>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there are 
>> no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>> web: tysdomain-com
>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>> There is viubuntu; not sure if it has speakup or just gnome and orca.
>>>
>>> I have tried to summarize what I did here as all this seems to be in 
>>> pieces scattered across the speakup archives.
>>> I might try updating the install documents for speakup as they are 
>>> wofully out of date.
>>>
>>> Corrections, shortcuts, better ways to integrate this with 
>>> module-assistant or welcome.
>>>
>>> You want a distribution with 2.6.26 or later kernel, and the headers 
>>> installed the below assumes Ubuntu Intrepid.
>>> I got this working yesterday it was not difficult in a nutshell I did 
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> This was an install to an eeepc 701 for anyone who cares.
>>>
>>> Got someone to install ubuntu 8.10 for me and checked the ssh server 
>>> option off the server cd.
>>>
>>> finished up the install and rebooted off the flash disk in the eeepc.
>>>
>>> sudo su once logged in via ssh (or ssh in as root if you like)
>>> apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>>
>>> apt-get install git git-core
>>> apt-get install espeak libespeak-dev
>>>
>>> now test your audio setup because alsa needs to work properly before you 
>>> mess with software speech.
>>> There's no point configuring speakup and espeakup and espeak if the 
>>> underlying frameworks are broken.
>>> I installed an mp3 player,
>>> apt-get install mpg321
>>> and played an mp3 to insure mixer was correctly set.
>>> espeak "testing speech this should work"
>>>
>>> If your box talks you're in good shape.
>>>
>>> cd /usr/src
>>> git-clone git://hubbs.homedns.org/speakup.git
>>>
>>> cd speakup/src
>>> make modules
>>> make modules_install
>>>
>>> cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/speakup
>>> cp * ..
>>> depmod -a
>>>
>>> not sure if that is necessary or not as the modules did not seem to be 
>>> seen without moving them up a level.
>>>
>>> cd /usr/src/speakup/contrib
>>> tar xjf espeakup-0.4.tar.bz2
>>> cd espeakup-0.4
>>> make
>>> make install
>>>
>>> modprobe speakup_soft
>>>
>>> espeakupd
>>>
>>> now hit enter on your console and you should have speech.
>>>
>>>
>>> any ways to script this into initrd images, fire this up on boot etc; I 
>>> will flesh this out into a mini-howto.
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:35 AM
>>> Subject: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello list,
>>>> I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never 
>>>> had much luck with the software speech).
>>>> I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point 
>>>> (really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup 
>>>> already set up and installed for software speech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kerry Hoath]

Read and read carefully: 2.6.26 or later.
2.6 patch level 26
patch level 26 or later.

your kernel is 2.6.24; see the returned string from uname -r you give:
2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686

this kernel is 2 patch levels too old.


kernels which will not work: 2.6.25, 2.6.24 2.6.23 and earlier.

You can put speakup into an earlier source tree but you'll need to patch it 
and this is not covered here.

You'd need to upgrade to testing or unstable to get a newer kernel.

Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 2.4 
> for some stupid reason.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> Your kernel is too old.
>> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>>
>> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>>
>>
>> the build directory will show up once you install
>> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>
>> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with kernel_package 
>> not by hand.
>> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
>> then install the 2 packages.
>>
>> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link to 
>> point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
>> or at least the headers from same.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>> hello,
>>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there are 
>>> no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>
> 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

I have read. and I'm telling you... I have another kernel installed. It's 
falling back to 2.4 for some reason, though
tds:/home/tyler# dpkg -l|grep linux-image
ri  linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686          2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.4   Linux 
2.6.24 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
ii  linux-image-2.6.26-1-686                    2.6.26-11              Linux 
2.6.26 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
ii  linux-image-686                             2.6.26+17              Linux 
image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Read and read carefully: 2.6.26 or later.
> 2.6 patch level 26
> patch level 26 or later.
>
> your kernel is 2.6.24; see the returned string from uname -r you give:
> 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>
> this kernel is 2 patch levels too old.
>
>
> kernels which will not work: 2.6.25, 2.6.24 2.6.23 and earlier.
>
> You can put speakup into an earlier source tree but you'll need to patch 
> it and this is not covered here.
>
> You'd need to upgrade to testing or unstable to get a newer kernel.
>
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 2.4 
>> for some stupid reason.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>> web: tysdomain-com
>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>> Your kernel is too old.
>>> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>>>
>>> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>>>
>>>
>>> the build directory will show up once you install
>>> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>>
>>> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with kernel_package 
>>> not by hand.
>>> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
>>> then install the 2 packages.
>>>
>>> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link to 
>>> point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
>>> or at least the headers from same.
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello,
>>>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>>>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there are 
>>>> no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>>>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>>>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>
>>
>
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kerry Hoath]

Then your boot loader is not booting the correct kernel.

If using grub check your /boot/grub/menu.lst

if using lilo; check your lilo.conf in /etc and also if using symbolic links
check that vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old are pointing at the kernels you expect 
them to point at.
Also note that uname works on the *running* kernel not what you might have 
installed.
My previous notes still apply; you need to build the kernel headers package 
with kernel-package;
and install it for the build symlink and headers to show.
Without the headers speakup won't build.

You also must have the right kernel booted for a Sane compile environment.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


>I have read. and I'm telling you... I have another kernel installed. It's 
>falling back to 2.4 for some reason, though
> tds:/home/tyler# dpkg -l|grep linux-image
> ri  linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686          2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.4 
> Linux 2.6.24 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
> ii  linux-image-2.6.26-1-686                    2.6.26-11 
> Linux 2.6.26 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
> ii  linux-image-686                             2.6.26+17 
> Linux image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> Read and read carefully: 2.6.26 or later.
>> 2.6 patch level 26
>> patch level 26 or later.
>>
>> your kernel is 2.6.24; see the returned string from uname -r you give:
>> 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>
>> this kernel is 2 patch levels too old.
>>
>>
>> kernels which will not work: 2.6.25, 2.6.24 2.6.23 and earlier.
>>
>> You can put speakup into an earlier source tree but you'll need to patch 
>> it and this is not covered here.
>>
>> You'd need to upgrade to testing or unstable to get a newer kernel.
>>
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>> I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 
>>> 2.4 for some stupid reason.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Your kernel is too old.
>>>> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>>>>
>>>> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the build directory will show up once you install
>>>> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>>>
>>>> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with 
>>>> kernel_package not by hand.
>>>> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
>>>> then install the 2 packages.
>>>>
>>>> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link to 
>>>> point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
>>>> or at least the headers from same.
>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hello,
>>>>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>>>>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there 
>>>>> are no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>>>>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>>>>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

I have the headers for the newest kernel installed... I'm stuck relying on 
debian to produce packages for me to upgrade as I'm not able to compile my 
own kernels... not the way I want, anyway, so I don't see much purpose in 
compiling a huge bloated kernel that has things in it that aren't needed.



Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
email: tyler@tysdomain.com
web: tysdomain-com
Visit for quality software and web design.
skype: st8amnd2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Then your boot loader is not booting the correct kernel.
>
> If using grub check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
>
> if using lilo; check your lilo.conf in /etc and also if using symbolic 
> links
> check that vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old are pointing at the kernels you expect 
> them to point at.
> Also note that uname works on the *running* kernel not what you might have 
> installed.
> My previous notes still apply; you need to build the kernel headers 
> package with kernel-package;
> and install it for the build symlink and headers to show.
> Without the headers speakup won't build.
>
> You also must have the right kernel booted for a Sane compile environment.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>>I have read. and I'm telling you... I have another kernel installed. It's 
>>falling back to 2.4 for some reason, though
>> tds:/home/tyler# dpkg -l|grep linux-image
>> ri  linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686          2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.4 
>> Linux 2.6.24 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
>> ii  linux-image-2.6.26-1-686                    2.6.26-11 Linux 2.6.26 
>> image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
>> ii  linux-image-686                             2.6.26+17 Linux image on 
>> PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>> web: tysdomain-com
>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>> Read and read carefully: 2.6.26 or later.
>>> 2.6 patch level 26
>>> patch level 26 or later.
>>>
>>> your kernel is 2.6.24; see the returned string from uname -r you give:
>>> 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>
>>> this kernel is 2 patch levels too old.
>>>
>>>
>>> kernels which will not work: 2.6.25, 2.6.24 2.6.23 and earlier.
>>>
>>> You can put speakup into an earlier source tree but you'll need to patch 
>>> it and this is not covered here.
>>>
>>> You'd need to upgrade to testing or unstable to get a newer kernel.
>>>
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 
>>>> 2.4 for some stupid reason.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Your kernel is too old.
>>>>> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the build directory will show up once you install
>>>>> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with 
>>>>> kernel_package not by hand.
>>>>> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
>>>>> then install the 2 packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link to 
>>>>> point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
>>>>> or at least the headers from same.
>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>>>>>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there 
>>>>>> are no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>>>>>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>>>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>>>>>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kerry Hoath]

Then either wait for the release of lenny or upgrade to testing.

Building kernels with kernel-package is not difficult and the kernel package 
documents cover the procedure rather well.

Speakup will make it into distributions as out of kernel modules and so on; 
so either try viubuntu (not sure if it has speakup) or be patient.
Regards, Kerry.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


>I have the headers for the newest kernel installed... I'm stuck relying on 
>debian to produce packages for me to upgrade as I'm not able to compile my 
>own kernels... not the way I want, anyway, so I don't see much purpose in 
>compiling a huge bloated kernel that has things in it that aren't needed.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>> Then your boot loader is not booting the correct kernel.
>>
>> If using grub check your /boot/grub/menu.lst
>>
>> if using lilo; check your lilo.conf in /etc and also if using symbolic 
>> links
>> check that vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old are pointing at the kernels you expect 
>> them to point at.
>> Also note that uname works on the *running* kernel not what you might 
>> have installed.
>> My previous notes still apply; you need to build the kernel headers 
>> package with kernel-package;
>> and install it for the build symlink and headers to show.
>> Without the headers speakup won't build.
>>
>> You also must have the right kernel booted for a Sane compile 
>> environment.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>>I have read. and I'm telling you... I have another kernel installed. It's 
>>>falling back to 2.4 for some reason, though
>>> tds:/home/tyler# dpkg -l|grep linux-image
>>> ri  linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686          2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.4 
>>> Linux 2.6.24 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
>>> ii  linux-image-2.6.26-1-686                    2.6.26-11 Linux 2.6.26 
>>> image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
>>> ii  linux-image-686                             2.6.26+17 Linux image on 
>>> PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Read and read carefully: 2.6.26 or later.
>>>> 2.6 patch level 26
>>>> patch level 26 or later.
>>>>
>>>> your kernel is 2.6.24; see the returned string from uname -r you give:
>>>> 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>>
>>>> this kernel is 2 patch levels too old.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> kernels which will not work: 2.6.25, 2.6.24 2.6.23 and earlier.
>>>>
>>>> You can put speakup into an earlier source tree but you'll need to 
>>>> patch it and this is not covered here.
>>>>
>>>> You'd need to upgrade to testing or unstable to get a newer kernel.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:29 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've got 2.6 kernel, there are two installed. etch is falling back to 
>>>>> 2.4 for some stupid reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your kernel is too old.
>>>>>> You need kernel 2.6.26 or later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debian stable is too crusty, as is Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the build directory will show up once you install
>>>>>> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is a custom kernel then you need to build it with 
>>>>>> kernel_package not by hand.
>>>>>> make-kpgk --revision=guff.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
>>>>>> then install the 2 packages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If doing the kernel by hand you need to fix the build symbolic link 
>>>>>> to point to your unpacked kernel source tree;
>>>>>> or at least the headers from same.
>>>>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
>>>>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>>>>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:11 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>> I'm only having one problem with this.
>>>>>>> I have the modules directory for /lib/modules/$(uname -r) but there 
>>>>>>> are no kernel headers, and the "build" directory doesn't exist.
>>>>>>> uname-r returns 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686
>>>>>>> how would I generate the "build" directory under 
>>>>>>> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>>>> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
>>>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>
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Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Michael Whapples]

Hello,
I don't know if you sorted it out, but you seem to be having 
difficulties of one sort or another which are preventing you getting 
speakup. I have found GRML to be very good and by default (on the full 
GRML distro) speakup is there, look at the swspeak boot argument. 
Another thing is that GRML can use standard debian packages, unlike 
ubuntu where mixing ubuntu and debian may cause problems.

Michael Whapples

Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
I have used GRML, my problem is getting grml2.hd working successfully.
It seems to boot, but never comes up talking.
I provide swspeak as a boot parameter.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Hello,
> I don't know if you sorted it out, but you seem to be having 
> difficulties of one sort or another which are preventing you getting 
> speakup. I have found GRML to be very good and by default (on the full 
> GRML distro) speakup is there, look at the swspeak boot argument. 
> Another thing is that GRML can use standard debian packages, unlike 
> ubuntu where mixing ubuntu and debian may cause problems.
> 
> Michael Whapples
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Michael Whapples]

Hello,
Here is what I have found about GRML when installed. The swspeak option 
only inserts the software speech module and gives a speech message to 
inform you of it, you still need to run swspeak when booting is finished 
(like on the CD). Unlike the CD when installed to HD you get placed at a 
login prompt, log in before running swspeak. In fact when booting 
finished you may not want to run swspeak as that will adjust volumes, 
etc and I preferred to add espeakup to the start up scripts.

Something else which caught me out when using GRML2hd is that it inserts 
a default username and if you don't clear that when installing and just 
type a username then you actually end up with the default plus your 
username (eg. I think the default is grml and I just typed my username 
when installing as mike (without backspacing to remove the default as I 
missed that as I was rushing) and so the username then was grmlmike when 
I had installed).

Hope some of that might clear up why when installed GRML might not speak.

Michael Whapples

On 23/12/42 20:59, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">hello,
> I have used GRML, my problem is getting grml2.hd working successfully.
> It seems to boot, but never comes up talking.
> I provide swspeak as a boot parameter.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I don't know if you sorted it out, but you seem to be having 
>> difficulties of one sort or another which are preventing you getting 
>> speakup. I have found GRML to be very good and by default (on the 
>> full GRML distro) speakup is there, look at the swspeak boot 
>> argument. Another thing is that GRML can use standard debian 
>> packages, unlike ubuntu where mixing ubuntu and debian may cause 
>> problems.
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> </div>

Re: Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Tyler Littlefield]

that helps a ton. I think I'm going to run it in a few and see if I can get 
it running.
I think grml comes with wireless support, which is going to be really nice 
for my laptop, assuming I can get it going.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Hello,
> Here is what I have found about GRML when installed. The swspeak option 
> only inserts the software speech module and gives a speech message to 
> inform you of it, you still need to run swspeak when booting is finished 
> (like on the CD). Unlike the CD when installed to HD you get placed at a 
> login prompt, log in before running swspeak. In fact when booting finished 
> you may not want to run swspeak as that will adjust volumes, etc and I 
> preferred to add espeakup to the start up scripts.
>
> Something else which caught me out when using GRML2hd is that it inserts a 
> default username and if you don't clear that when installing and just type 
> a username then you actually end up with the default plus your username 
> (eg. I think the default is grml and I just typed my username when 
> installing as mike (without backspacing to remove the default as I missed 
> that as I was rushing) and so the username then was grmlmike when I had 
> installed).
>
> Hope some of that might clear up why when installed GRML might not speak.
>
> Michael Whapples
>
> On 23/12/42 20:59, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">hello,
>> I have used GRML, my problem is getting grml2.hd working successfully.
>> It seems to boot, but never comes up talking.
>> I provide swspeak as a boot parameter.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 6:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re: system with speakup software already installed?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I don't know if you sorted it out, but you seem to be having 
>>> difficulties of one sort or another which are preventing you getting 
>>> speakup. I have found GRML to be very good and by default (on the full 
>>> GRML distro) speakup is there, look at the swspeak boot argument. 
>>> Another thing is that GRML can use standard debian packages, unlike 
>>> ubuntu where mixing ubuntu and debian may cause problems.
>>>
>>> Michael Whapples
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> </div>
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kitty Litter]

Kerry,
I followed your instructions and was able to create all the speakup modules 
in vibuntu 1.2 which I installed on an unused partition from a memory stick. 
My audapter hardware synth worked as expected but softsynth had problems. I 
am using gnome speech with espeak and the original pulseaudio from vibuntu 
1.2. When it does work, it chops a little of each letter or the first word 
on a line. Sometimes I get messages about not able to open /dev/dsp. I don't 
know enough about alsa or pulseaudio to fix this. Also the espeakup daemon 
in /usr/bin is espeakup without the d like it used to be.
A few days ago I did install the speakup-source package and tried the 
module-assistant which never compiled correctly. 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I am using debian unstable and was wondering what packages I will need 
to download in order to be able to fetch the latest git speakup sources as I 
was wanting to compile my own custom kernel as I want to upgrade to 2.6.27 
and unstable is still on 2.6.26?  If I also wanted to run a local git server 
what package would I also need to download for this?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitty Litter" <n8kl@insightbb.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Kerry,
> I followed your instructions and was able to create all the speakup 
> modules in vibuntu 1.2 which I installed on an unused partition from a 
> memory stick. My audapter hardware synth worked as expected but softsynth 
> had problems. I am using gnome speech with espeak and the original 
> pulseaudio from vibuntu 1.2. When it does work, it chops a little of each 
> letter or the first word on a line. Sometimes I get messages about not 
> able to open /dev/dsp. I don't know enough about alsa or pulseaudio to fix 
> this. Also the espeakup daemon in /usr/bin is espeakup without the d like 
> it used to be.
> A few days ago I did install the speakup-source package and tried the 
> module-assistant which never compiled correctly.
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Daniel Dalton]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 06:51:09PM -0600, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> Hi, I am using debian unstable and was wondering what packages I will 
> need to download in order to be able to fetch the latest git speakup 

sudo apt-get install git-core

As a start.

Note, you could grab the kernel from experimental, if they are up to
2.6.27:
Edit sources.list appropriately, and then run
sudo apt-get update
Next apt-get source the right kernel and then modify your sources.list
to use the lenny servers again, or whatever version you are running...
This way you'll get debian patches, of course, kernel.org will be
fine...
That might just be a little quicker, I dunno, but it sounds like you
have a good idea on what your doing.

> run a local git server what package would I also need to download for 
> this?

Dunno, sorry... 

Hope that helps a bit

Daniel

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, Will I also need to recompile alsa modules or can I just use the ones 
from the earlier kernel with the newer kernel if I configure the kernel to 
allow it to use older modules?  I am trying to make my kernel upgrades on my 
own schedual and not when debian upgrades the kernels as I like to just 
build my own kernels and install as I please.  Is it still possible from the 
git sources to compile the dectalk express driver into the kernel if I 
should want to do this?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Dalton" <d.dalton@iinet.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 06:51:09PM -0600, Nick Gawronski wrote:
>> Hi, I am using debian unstable and was wondering what packages I will
>> need to download in order to be able to fetch the latest git speakup
>
> sudo apt-get install git-core
>
> As a start.
>
> Note, you could grab the kernel from experimental, if they are up to
> 2.6.27:
> Edit sources.list appropriately, and then run
> sudo apt-get update
> Next apt-get source the right kernel and then modify your sources.list
> to use the lenny servers again, or whatever version you are running...
> This way you'll get debian patches, of course, kernel.org will be
> fine...
> That might just be a little quicker, I dunno, but it sounds like you
> have a good idea on what your doing.
>
>> run a local git server what package would I also need to download for
>> this?
>
> Dunno, sorry...
>
> Hope that helps a bit
>
> Daniel
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Kerry Hoath]

/dev/dsp is an oss device not alsa.
Fix whatever program to use alsa devices where possible.

Some people tell me pulsaudio is good; and the best thing since slice bread.
Others sware you should uninstall it (which might break gnome etc).
Sorry I only have ubuntu at command-line at this stage, no gnome and Orca 
involved yet.
I will look at viubuntu soon.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitty Litter" <n8kl@insightbb.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: system with speakup software already installed?


> Kerry,
> I followed your instructions and was able to create all the speakup 
> modules in vibuntu 1.2 which I installed on an unused partition from a 
> memory stick. My audapter hardware synth worked as expected but softsynth 
> had problems. I am using gnome speech with espeak and the original 
> pulseaudio from vibuntu 1.2. When it does work, it chops a little of each 
> letter or the first word on a line. Sometimes I get messages about not 
> able to open /dev/dsp. I don't know enough about alsa or pulseaudio to fix 
> this. Also the espeakup daemon in /usr/bin is espeakup without the d like 
> it used to be.
> A few days ago I did install the speakup-source package and tried the 
> module-assistant which never compiled correctly.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, Well if you are using debian linux you can buy it preinstalled on a 
computer.  I see no reason why if you contacted the people who you will be 
buying the system from why they could not install speakup for you with 
software speech after all you are still going to be paying them to install 
the rest of the system.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: system with speakup software already installed?


> Hello list,
> I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never 
> had much luck with the software speech).
> I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point 
> (really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup already 
> set up and installed for software speech.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
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Re: system with speakup software already installed?

[Janina Sajka]

SpeakupModified.Org images include Speakup ready with software speech.
I'm sorry, you may need to add the espeakup.rpm, I don't recall for
sure, but that's the worst of it.

Speakup Modified Fedora 10 will be out when Red Hat fixes the telnet
bug: 471082. It already works for installation if you have a hardware
synth.

Janina

Tyler Littlefield writes:
> Hello list,
> I'm looking for a system that already has speakup installed (I've never 
> had much luck with the software speech).
> I'm going to try to get it installed on my laptop though at some point  
> (really soon), and was wondering if there is a distro with speakup 
> already set up and installed for software speech.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@tysdomain.com
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
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