* Virtual consoles in Arch @ Chuck Hallenbeck ` Kyle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi people, How does one increase the number of virtual consoles in archlinux, now that it has adopted systemd? I can't seem to find any information about that. Chuck -- Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch Virtual consoles in Arch Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Kyle ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Systemd allocates virtual consoles as needed, so simply switching to one will automatically create it. There should no longer be any need to statically allocate more, as you start now with only one. Hope this helps. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Kyle @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` acollins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Kyle, > Systemd allocates virtual consoles as needed, so simply switching to one will > automatically create it. There should no longer be any need to statically > allocate more, as you start now with only one. Hope this helps. That only seems to work for the first six colnsoles for me, there seems to be no way to switch to console 7, or 8, etc. I normally move from one console to another with alt+right-arrow, or alt+left-arrow, and when I am in console 6 and press alt+right-arrow, I am back in console 1. Likewise, alt+F7 doesn't do it for me either. Chuck -- Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` acollins ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello Chuck! Well, I use Debian, instead of arch, but if you look in /etc/inittab, you should find several lines like this. 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 if you duplicate this line, and then change the sixes to sevens, and then do an init 2, the system should allocate another console. If you add more lines, with eights, nines, etc. you can have up to 64 virtual consoles pre-allocated at system startup. You can also look at your distro for a package called openvt, which will let you allocate more consoles on the fly. Hope this helps. Gene >Hi Kyle, > >> Systemd allocates virtual consoles as needed, so simply switching to one wil l >> automatically create it. There should no longer be any need to statically >> allocate more, as you start now with only one. Hope this helps. > >That only seems to work for the first six colnsoles for me, there seems to >be no way to switch to console 7, or 8, etc. I normally move from one >console to another with alt+right-arrow, or alt+left-arrow, and when I am >in console 6 and press alt+right-arrow, I am back in console 1. Likewise, >alt+F7 doesn't do it for me either. > >Chuck > >-- > >Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@linux-speakup.org >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` acollins @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Gene, The new systed infrastructure for archlinux no longer uses some of those familiar and convenient files that other distros still use. Thanks anyway, but I'd rather tighten my belt and stick with six VC's than move away from archlinux again. Chuck On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: > Hello Chuck! Well, I use Debian, instead of arch, but if you look in > /etc/inittab, you should find several lines like this. > > 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 > if you duplicate this line, and then change the sixes to sevens, and > then do an init 2, the system should allocate another console. If you > add more lines, with eights, nines, etc. you can have up to 64 virtual > consoles pre-allocated at system startup. You can also look at your > distro for a package called openvt, which will let you allocate more > consoles on the fly. Hope this helps. > > Gene > > > >Hi Kyle, > > > >> Systemd allocates virtual consoles as needed, so simply switching to one wil > l > >> automatically create it. There should no longer be any need to statically > >> allocate more, as you start now with only one. Hope this helps. > > > >That only seems to work for the first six colnsoles for me, there seems to > >be no way to switch to console 7, or 8, etc. I normally move from one > >console to another with alt+right-arrow, or alt+left-arrow, and when I am > >in console 6 and press alt+right-arrow, I am back in console 1. Likewise, > >alt+F7 doesn't do it for me either. > > > >Chuck > > > >-- > > > >Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` acollins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for increasing the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many of us feel claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> --terry -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 289-488-4882 E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` acollins ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Terry! Which distro are you using? >Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, > > This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for increasing the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many of us feel claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> > > --terry > >-- >Name: Terry D. Cudney >Phone: 289-488-4882 >E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@linux-speakup.org >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` acollins @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` acollins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Gene, I'm still using Debian, but watching other distros with interest as they progressin different directions. I tried Ubuntu for a wile but found that their packages were a little too blleding edge/ untested for my liking, so I'm back with Debian. How 'bout you? --terry On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:02:02AM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: > Hi Terry! Which distro are you using? > > >Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, > > > > This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for increasing > the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many of us feel > claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> > > > > --terry > > > >-- > >Name: Terry D. Cudney > >Phone: 289-488-4882 > >E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 289-488-4882 E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` acollins ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: acollins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Terry! I'm running Debian Squeeze, so if you want more virtual conxoles, what I wrote to Chuck earlier will work for you. Gene >Hi Gene, > > I'm still using Debian, but watching other distros with interest as they pr ogressin different directions. I tried Ubuntu for a wile but found that their p ackages were a little too blleding edge/ untested for my liking, so I'm back wi th Debian. How 'bout you? > > --terry > >On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:02:02AM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: >> Hi Terry! Which distro are you using? >> >> >Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, >> > >> > This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for increas ing >> the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many of us f eel >> claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> >> > >> > --terry >> > >> >-- >> >Name: Terry D. Cudney >> >Phone: 289-488-4882 >> >E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >-- >Name: Terry D. Cudney >Phone: 289-488-4882 >E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@linux-speakup.org >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` acollins @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` Robert Spangler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Gene, Thanks for the suggestions... I've already been running with 12 VC's for several years. I find, for me, 12 is enough and more easily accessed with the alt-arrow-keys and ctrl-alt-function keeys. More than 12 seem a little more difficult to switch to them. It is nice to see new development though. If Archlinux is going to support more than 6 dynamically allocated VC's and have them easily switchable I'm all for it! Take care Gene, --terry On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 01:13:34PM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: > Hi Terry! I'm running Debian Squeeze, so if you want more virtual > conxoles, what I wrote to Chuck earlier will work for you. > > Gene > > >Hi Gene, > > > > I'm still using Debian, but watching other distros with interest as they pr > ogressin different directions. I tried Ubuntu for a wile but found that their p > ackages were a little too blleding edge/ untested for my liking, so I'm back wi > th Debian. How 'bout you? > > > > --terry > > > >On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:02:02AM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: > >> Hi Terry! Which distro are you using? > >> > >> >Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, > >> > > >> > This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for increas > ing > >> the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many of us f > eel > >> claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> > >> > > >> > --terry > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Name: Terry D. Cudney > >> >Phone: 289-488-4882 > >> >E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >Speakup mailing list > >> >Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >> >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >-- > >Name: Terry D. Cudney > >Phone: 289-488-4882 > >E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: 289-488-4882 E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Robert Spangler ` dynamic TTY allocation was: " Garrett Klein ` Jason White 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Robert Spangler @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. One can also use screen for multiple terminals if the console limitation becomes an issue. Thanks, Robert Spangler, B.A. in Urban Studies and Spanish spangler.robert@gmail.com On 12/24/2012 3:40 PM, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Hi Gene, > > Thanks for the suggestions... I've already been running with 12 VC's for several years. I find, for me, 12 is enough and more easily accessed with the alt-arrow-keys and ctrl-alt-function keeys. More than 12 seem a little more difficult to switch to them. > > It is nice to see new development though. If Archlinux is going to support more than 6 dynamically allocated VC's and have them easily switchable I'm all for it! > > Take care Gene, > > --terry > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 01:13:34PM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: >> Hi Terry! I'm running Debian Squeeze, so if you want more virtual >> conxoles, what I wrote to Chuck earlier will work for you. >> >> Gene >> >>> Hi Gene, >>> >>> I'm still using Debian, but watching other distros with interest as they pr >> ogressin different directions. I tried Ubuntu for a wile but found that their p >> ackages were a little too blleding edge/ untested for my liking, so I'm back wi >> th Debian. How 'bout you? >>> >>> --terry >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:02:02AM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: >>>> Hi Terry! Which distro are you using? >>>> >>>>> Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, >>>>> >>>>> This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for increas >> ing >>>> the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many of us f >> eel >>>> claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> >>>>> >>>>> --terry >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Name: Terry D. Cudney >>>>> Phone: 289-488-4882 >>>>> E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> -- >>> Name: Terry D. Cudney >>> Phone: 289-488-4882 >>> E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* dynamic TTY allocation was: Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Robert Spangler @ ` Garrett Klein ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Jason White 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Garrett Klein @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. All, I'm having an interesting issue. On one of my arch installs that was upgraded to systemd, dynamic vc allocation doesn't work, whereas on a new install it's working fine. Has anyone else experienced this issue and/or managed to fix it? -----Original Message----- From: Robert Spangler Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 4:28 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Virtual consoles in Arch One can also use screen for multiple terminals if the console limitation becomes an issue. Thanks, Robert Spangler, B.A. in Urban Studies and Spanish spangler.robert@gmail.com On 12/24/2012 3:40 PM, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Hi Gene, > > Thanks for the suggestions... I've already been running with 12 VC's > for several years. I find, for me, 12 is enough and more easily accessed > with the alt-arrow-keys and ctrl-alt-function keeys. More than 12 seem a > little more difficult to switch to them. > > It is nice to see new development though. If Archlinux is going to > support more than 6 dynamically allocated VC's and have them easily > switchable I'm all for it! > > Take care Gene, > > --terry > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 01:13:34PM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: >> Hi Terry! I'm running Debian Squeeze, so if you want more virtual >> conxoles, what I wrote to Chuck earlier will work for you. >> >> Gene >> >>> Hi Gene, >>> >>> I'm still using Debian, but watching other distros with interest as >>> they pr >> ogressin different directions. I tried Ubuntu for a wile but found that >> their p >> ackages were a little too blleding edge/ untested for my liking, so I'm >> back wi >> th Debian. How 'bout you? >>> >>> --terry >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:02:02AM -0600, acollins@icsmail.net wrote: >>>> Hi Terry! Which distro are you using? >>>> >>>>> Hi Chuck, Kyle, et al, >>>>> >>>>> This looks very interesting. Does archlinux provide a method for >>>>> increas >> ing >>>> the max number of VC's? If not yet, I'd assume that it will... Many >>>> of us f >> eel >>>> claustrophobic with only 6 consoles... <grin> >>>>> >>>>> --terry >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Name: Terry D. Cudney >>>>> Phone: 289-488-4882 >>>>> E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> -- >>> Name: Terry D. Cudney >>> Phone: 289-488-4882 >>> E-mail: terry.cudney@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: dynamic TTY allocation was: Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` dynamic TTY allocation was: " Garrett Klein @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Kyle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Garrett, On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Garrett Klein wrote: > All, > I'm having an interesting issue. On one of my arch installs that was > upgraded to systemd, dynamic vc allocation doesn't work, whereas on a new > install it's working fine. Has anyone else experienced this issue and/or > managed to fix it? > I have two systems here with new installs of archlinux, and the problem I described is found on both of them. Dynamic allocation of VC's works fine up to console 6, but not for consoles 7 and higher. One system is a Lenovo ThinkPad, and the other an Acer desktop with an AMD A6-3620 processor. Both machines are 64 bit. What I'm wondering is, how can I get more than 6 virtual consoles, with or without dynamic allocation? I would prefer _WITH_ of course, but _WITHOUT_ would be okay too. Chuck -- Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: dynamic TTY allocation was: Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Kyle ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. In /etc/systemd/logind.conf, uncomment the following lines near the top of the file, and change the 6 to the number you want. #NAutoVTs=6 #ReserveVT=6 This will dynamically allocate more or less virtual consoles, depending on your preferences. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: dynamic TTY allocation was: Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Kyle @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Kyle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Kyle, Fabulous. Just what I wanted. Sorry I didn't think to look there. Many thanks, Chuck On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Kyle wrote: > In /etc/systemd/logind.conf, uncomment the following lines near the top of the > file, and change the 6 to the number you want. > > #NAutoVTs=6 > #ReserveVT=6 > > This will dynamically allocate more or less virtual consoles, depending on > your preferences. > ~Kyle > http://kyle.tk/ > -- Chuck in Hudson, i.e., Hudson on the Hudson. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: dynamic TTY allocation was: Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Kyle 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. No problem at all. I just found this, since Arch is now using logind, so figured there must be a logind.conf somewhere. It turned out to be right where I expected it to be, and editing it was much easier than I expected. The same may not yet be true for Fedora or OpenSUSE, which both use systemd, but it works on Arch, and should work on Fedora and OpenSUSE in their next releases if it doesn't already. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Virtual consoles in Arch ` Robert Spangler ` dynamic TTY allocation was: " Garrett Klein @ ` Jason White 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jason White @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Robert Spangler <speakup@linux-speakup.org> wrote: >One can also use screen for multiple terminals if the console limitation >becomes an issue. Alternatively, you can run openvt to execute whatever command you wish on any virtual console. It is possible to spawn getty processes on additional virtual consoles from Systemd by editing the appropriate service file or creating a new one. I don't know the details, but from a quick inspection of a machine running systemd, it's clear that the name of the tty is parameterized and that /lib/systemd/system/getty@.service is used to create them. What I haven't found is where the actual TTYs, e.g., 1-6, are specified in the configuration, which is what you need to change. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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