* search engine for the archives?
@ Igor Gueths
` Krister ekstrom
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0 siblings, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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Hi all. I've contemplated this time and time again, however I'm not sure
anyone has thought of it. Has anyone thought of working on a search
script that would accept a keyword as input, and then output a list of
messages containing that keyword/series of words? If this somehow hasn't
been thought of yet, I'm wondering if anyone is actually interested in
something like this. The reason I thought of doing this is bc I'm
watching the Speech Dispatcher thread, and I know I will want to refer
back to it once I get my laptop because I may be installing software
speech on it. Also, I will most likely forget where the thread is in the
archives, and I thought it would be nice if I could just search for it.
In terms of implementing such functionality, I'm thinking Perl is a good
option. And then depending on where the archive pages are actually
located/structure of the pages themselves, the script could then pass
the input along to grep. The grep output would be contained in an array,
which would then be parced and returned to the user in the form of a
result listing. The reason I say that it will be parced is because the
grep output is most likely going to be in the form of HTML pages, and
the script will need to strip out all the extranious HTML tags, and then
render the results in a new page. Anyone like/dislike this idea?
- --
Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product.
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread* Re: search engine for the archives? search engine for the archives? Igor Gueths @ ` Krister ekstrom ` Igor Gueths ` Sean McMahon ` Kirk Reiser 2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Krister ekstrom @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:06:07AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote: > Hi all. I've contemplated this time and time again, however I'm not sure > anyone has thought of it. Has anyone thought of working on a search > script that would accept a keyword as input, and then output a list of > messages containing that keyword/series of words? Sounds like a cool idea. I'd be all for it. Also, though this is on another topic, is there a tool that searches many web sites for a key word, many words or an exact phraze rather like Copernic in that other strange os does? - -- /Krister -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAkSYaODlJeoMTOQsRAzYbAJ9Z5whBzNzILKrLzoiwTew0epfF+QCdG6TJ 4JQqmLmRpuPhr3gbR38pQN8= =2O9g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Krister ekstrom @ ` Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 05:58:18PM +0200, Krister ekstrom wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:06:07AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote: > > Hi all. I've contemplated this time and time again, however I'm not sure > > anyone has thought of it. Has anyone thought of working on a search > > script that would accept a keyword as input, and then output a list of > > messages containing that keyword/series of words? > Sounds like a cool idea. I'd be all for it. Also, though this is on > another topic, is there a tool that searches many web sites for a key > word, many words or an exact phraze rather like Copernic in that other > strange os does? I don't know of any such program, although I'd search freshmeat/google. > - -- > /Krister > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAkSYaODlJeoMTOQsRAzYbAJ9Z5whBzNzILKrLzoiwTew0epfF+QCdG6TJ > 4JQqmLmRpuPhr3gbR38pQN8= > =2O9g > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAkTNjNohoaf1zXJMRAjnHAJ9ajtPomHuiYXAlpt7YOHBvz26YLACggSA+ Lj4hynGFHH2FIElGMxZz25s= =mciW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? search engine for the archives? Igor Gueths ` Krister ekstrom @ ` Sean McMahon ` Igor Gueths ` dking ` Kirk Reiser 2 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. Each html page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl would just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that might be more complex. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:06 AM Subject: search engine for the archives? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all. I've contemplated this time and time again, however I'm not sure > anyone has thought of it. Has anyone thought of working on a search > script that would accept a keyword as input, and then output a list of > messages containing that keyword/series of words? If this somehow hasn't > been thought of yet, I'm wondering if anyone is actually interested in > something like this. The reason I thought of doing this is bc I'm > watching the Speech Dispatcher thread, and I know I will want to refer > back to it once I get my laptop because I may be installing software > speech on it. Also, I will most likely forget where the thread is in the > archives, and I thought it would be nice if I could just search for it. > In terms of implementing such functionality, I'm thinking Perl is a good > option. And then depending on where the archive pages are actually > located/structure of the pages themselves, the script could then pass > the input along to grep. The grep output would be contained in an array, > which would then be parced and returned to the user in the form of a > result listing. The reason I say that it will be parced is because the > grep output is most likely going to be in the form of HTML pages, and > the script will need to strip out all the extranious HTML tags, and then > render the results in a new page. Anyone like/dislike this idea? > - -- > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAkRnfNohoaf1zXJMRAnqEAKCTYKGKc2N+96MxUxY5GbtpVt6hPQCdFFUE > m4Yu7dOxOML9ywQ1wHRHD1A= > =OBYH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Sean McMahon @ ` Igor Gueths ` dking 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There might already be a database, not sure how the archives are organized. Hopefully Kirk will reply to this so we can possibly get something going. On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 10:45:14AM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote: > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. Each html > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl would > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that might > be more complex. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:06 AM > Subject: search engine for the archives? > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi all. I've contemplated this time and time again, however I'm not sure > > anyone has thought of it. Has anyone thought of working on a search > > script that would accept a keyword as input, and then output a list of > > messages containing that keyword/series of words? If this somehow hasn't > > been thought of yet, I'm wondering if anyone is actually interested in > > something like this. The reason I thought of doing this is bc I'm > > watching the Speech Dispatcher thread, and I know I will want to refer > > back to it once I get my laptop because I may be installing software > > speech on it. Also, I will most likely forget where the thread is in the > > archives, and I thought it would be nice if I could just search for it. > > In terms of implementing such functionality, I'm thinking Perl is a good > > option. And then depending on where the archive pages are actually > > located/structure of the pages themselves, the script could then pass > > the input along to grep. The grep output would be contained in an array, > > which would then be parced and returned to the user in the form of a > > result listing. The reason I say that it will be parced is because the > > grep output is most likely going to be in the form of HTML pages, and > > the script will need to strip out all the extranious HTML tags, and then > > render the results in a new page. Anyone like/dislike this idea? > > - -- > > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFAkRnfNohoaf1zXJMRAnqEAKCTYKGKc2N+96MxUxY5GbtpVt6hPQCdFFUE > > m4Yu7dOxOML9ywQ1wHRHD1A= > > =OBYH > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFAkUUoNohoaf1zXJMRAglgAJ4l2HilYHCce+53ne2p6G3u8J4nYgCWMNNC diOBK91UHVmNd/5+P00FVw== =c82g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Sean McMahon ` Igor Gueths @ ` dking ` Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: dking @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. A mysql database, designed to use both posted dates/times and topics as the primary key may work better then a grep based solution as you said; I happen to know a small amount of relational data base design, and from my limited experience a small one table mysql database with a php front end may fit the needs of the project, then again I may be wrong. The difference is search; What do you want to search by? The initial design of the database would define its abilities and how you can interact with it, what and how you can search it and so forth, designed badly it would be un-searchable. - D On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:45, Sean McMahon wrote: > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. Each html > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl would > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that might > be more complex. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` dking @ ` Igor Gueths ` Sean McMahon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The only problem with a database that i see as of right now is that then the entire archiving system will have to be re-done. But then again, I may be wrong. The way I'm trying to design this is so that you can drop it in, and have it use the existing archiving system however it's implemented. On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:15:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > A mysql database, designed to use both posted dates/times and topics as the primary key may work better then a grep based solution as you said; I happen to know a > small amount of relational data base design, and from my limited experience a small one table mysql database with a php front end may fit the needs of the project, > then again I may be wrong. > > The difference is search; What do you want to search by? The initial design of the database would define its abilities and how you can interact with it, what and how > you can search it and so forth, designed badly it would be un-searchable. > > - D > On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:45, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. Each html > > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl would > > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that might > > be more complex. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAkUfrNohoaf1zXJMRApfFAJ9ZebCX43lTyGgizcEKJV5+SKcpmQCgkP3g o/qAB4VQr/pgJcJaHWli3aU= =LecI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Igor Gueths @ ` Sean McMahon ` dking 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Then it depends on what we have grep may work better. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:22 AM Subject: Re: search engine for the archives? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The only problem with a database that i see as of right now is that then > the entire archiving system will have to be re-done. But then again, I > may be wrong. The way I'm trying to design this is so that you can drop > it in, and have it use the existing archiving system however it's > implemented. > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:15:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > > A mysql database, designed to use both posted dates/times and topics as the primary key may work better then a grep based solution as you said; I happen to know a > > small amount of relational data base design, and from my limited experience a small one table mysql database with a php front end may fit the needs of the project, > > then again I may be wrong. > > > > The difference is search; What do you want to search by? The initial design of the database would define its abilities and how you can interact with it, what and how > > you can search it and so forth, designed badly it would be un-searchable. > > > > - D > > On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:45, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > > > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. Each html > > > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl would > > > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > > > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that might > > > be more complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAkUfrNohoaf1zXJMRApfFAJ9ZebCX43lTyGgizcEKJV5+SKcpmQCgkP3g > o/qAB4VQr/pgJcJaHWli3aU= > =LecI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Sean McMahon @ ` dking ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: dking @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Well, what is currently being used? I think that is the place to start, other then that doing anything else would be a waste of time, since we need to be able to use the archives data. Is Kirk the only one who knows what we are using? - D On 29 Apr 2004 at 15:12, Sean McMahon wrote: > Then it depends on what we have grep may work better. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: search engine for the archives? > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The only problem with a database that i see as of right now is that then > > the entire archiving system will have to be re-done. But then again, I > > may be wrong. The way I'm trying to design this is so that you can drop > > it in, and have it use the existing archiving system however it's > > implemented. > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:15:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > > > A mysql database, designed to use both posted dates/times and topics as the > primary key may work better then a grep based solution as you said; I happen to > know a > > > small amount of relational data base design, and from my limited experience > a small one table mysql database with a php front end may fit the needs of the > project, > > > then again I may be wrong. > > > > > > The difference is search; What do you want to search by? The initial design > of the database would define its abilities and how you can interact with it, > what and how > > > you can search it and so forth, designed badly it would be un-searchable. > > > > > > - D > > > On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:45, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. > Each html > > > > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl > would > > > > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > > > > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that > might > > > > be more complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > - -- > > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFAkUfrNohoaf1zXJMRApfFAJ9ZebCX43lTyGgizcEKJV5+SKcpmQCgkP3g > > o/qAB4VQr/pgJcJaHWli3aU= > > =LecI > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` dking @ ` Alex Snow ` dking ` Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've seen a search engine called namazu used successifuly with mailman. I'm not sure if it works with pipermail I've only seen mhonarc. On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 01:05:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > Well, what is currently being used? I think that is the place to > start, other then that doing anything else would be a waste of time, > since we need to be able to use the archives data. > > Is Kirk the only one who knows what we are using? > > - D > > On 29 Apr 2004 at 15:12, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > Then it depends on what we have grep may work better. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:22 AM > > Subject: Re: search engine for the archives? > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > The only problem with a database that i see as of right now is that then > > > the entire archiving system will have to be re-done. But then again, I > > > may be wrong. The way I'm trying to design this is so that you can drop > > > it in, and have it use the existing archiving system however it's > > > implemented. > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:15:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > > > > A mysql database, designed to use both posted dates/times and topics as the > > primary key may work better then a grep based solution as you said; I happen to > > know a > > > > small amount of relational data base design, and from my limited experience > > a small one table mysql database with a php front end may fit the needs of the > > project, > > > > then again I may be wrong. > > > > > > > > The difference is search; What do you want to search by? The initial design > > of the database would define its abilities and how you can interact with it, > > what and how > > > > you can search it and so forth, designed badly it would be un-searchable. > > > > > > > > - D > > > > On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:45, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. > > Each html > > > > > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl > > would > > > > > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > > > > > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that > > might > > > > > be more complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > - -- > > > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iD8DBQFAkUfrNohoaf1zXJMRApfFAJ9ZebCX43lTyGgizcEKJV5+SKcpmQCgkP3g > > > o/qAB4VQr/pgJcJaHWli3aU= > > > =LecI > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- "... being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed." - Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition -- found in the .sig of Rob Riggs, rriggs@tesser.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAkipo9XVrM3ri110RAnfQAKCCNSWrE+F+Ou60fOII5k7fdlIPjwCfeiWN Y1c0zzu+rF3rAPJBjEIHVLA= =AoOT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Alex Snow @ ` dking ` Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: dking @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I did a search and it seems that its a gpl project as well : http://www.namazu.org/ Either way the honor of installing it and getting it to work would be left to the systems admin. - D On 30 Apr 2004 at 6:28, Alex Snow wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've seen a search engine called namazu used successifuly with > mailman. I'm not sure if it works with pipermail I've only seen > mhonarc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Alex Snow ` dking @ ` Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What exactly is the difference between Pipemail and Mhonarc? On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 06:28:56AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've seen a search engine called namazu used successifuly with > mailman. I'm not sure if it works with pipermail I've only seen > mhonarc. > On > Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 01:05:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > > Well, what is currently being used? I think that is the place to > > start, other then that doing anything else would be a waste of time, > > since we need to be able to use the archives data. > > > > Is Kirk the only one who knows what we are using? > > > > - D > > > > On 29 Apr 2004 at 15:12, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > > > Then it depends on what we have grep may work better. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@lava-net.com> > > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:22 AM > > > Subject: Re: search engine for the archives? > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > The only problem with a database that i see as of right now is that then > > > > the entire archiving system will have to be re-done. But then again, I > > > > may be wrong. The way I'm trying to design this is so that you can drop > > > > it in, and have it use the existing archiving system however it's > > > > implemented. > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:15:31AM -0700, dking@pimpsoft.com wrote: > > > > > A mysql database, designed to use both posted dates/times and topics as the > > > primary key may work better then a grep based solution as you said; I happen to > > > know a > > > > > small amount of relational data base design, and from my limited experience > > > a small one table mysql database with a php front end may fit the needs of the > > > project, > > > > > then again I may be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > The difference is search; What do you want to search by? The initial design > > > of the database would define its abilities and how you can interact with it, > > > what and how > > > > > you can search it and so forth, designed badly it would be un-searchable. > > > > > > > > > > - D > > > > > On 29 Apr 2004 at 10:45, Sean McMahon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah that's a good idea I don't even know how to get to the archives. > > > Each html > > > > > > page could be titled with the subject of the mail message. So then perl > > > would > > > > > > just have to search the directory with the subjects of the e-mail you're > > > > > > grepping The other way do do this is to create a small database but that > > > might > > > > > > be more complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > - -- > > > > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > > > iD8DBQFAkUfrNohoaf1zXJMRApfFAJ9ZebCX43lTyGgizcEKJV5+SKcpmQCgkP3g > > > > o/qAB4VQr/pgJcJaHWli3aU= > > > > =LecI > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > "... being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited > by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when > you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new > turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily > removed the floor under your bed." - Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition > -- found in the .sig of Rob Riggs, rriggs@tesser.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAkipo9XVrM3ri110RAnfQAKCCNSWrE+F+Ou60fOII5k7fdlIPjwCfeiWN > Y1c0zzu+rF3rAPJBjEIHVLA= > =AoOT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAknL6Nohoaf1zXJMRAtTaAKCX1yIUFcyVYl136ixU0FkfMl6EYACgkCG6 jsGeutI62bd+HjQPHsxeBNs= =/MIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? search engine for the archives? Igor Gueths ` Krister ekstrom ` Sean McMahon @ ` Kirk Reiser ` Igor Gueths 2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If you want to write a search engine greate! We have discussed it a number of times before here on the list but nobody has actually come up with anything. If you develop something which works I'll be glad to install it. You'll probably want to install mailman so you can see how the archiving works. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: search engine for the archives? ` Kirk Reiser @ ` Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Speaking of Mailman, I thought it implemented a search engine by default? Or so I've heard. On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 04:58:34PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote: > If you want to write a search engine greate! We have discussed it a > number of times before here on the list but nobody has actually come > up with anything. If you develop something which works I'll be glad > to install it. You'll probably want to install mailman so you can see > how the archiving works. > > Kirk > > -- > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAkXGbNohoaf1zXJMRAkKvAJ9gG/coTCcEsTlB0B0ezpGVk2tGMwCZAWIx hQ631KhQoaTpF6SKS11qxDQ= =myvI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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