Re: New Debian Install - HELP!

["Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>]

you can bring your system up in rescue mode no idea how to do that with 
speech sorry.
Regards, kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!


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> Well for now, I have lilo installed but for some reason, it doesn't
> work right either.  In the mean time, I booted with my slackware cd,
> got into a shell and am trying to run lilo with a chroot to update the
> lilo.conf file.  But now I get a faital error about raid_setup.  god
> knows what's going on here.  What does raid_setup got to do with lilo?
> I haven't knowingly installed any raid.  The difference here is I'm
> trying to set up a boot sector on /dev/hda (MBR), Windows runs on
> /dev/hda1 and I have Debian installed on /dev/hdb (1 and 2).  System
> files and all are in /dev/hdb1.
>
> Bottom line: I can't seem to get a decent boot sector built on the MBR
> of /dev/hda so I can't boot into either system on that machine now.
>
> If I want to update things in Debian, is there an easier way other
> than starting over every time? When I use the boot disk from Deb, I
> always end up in the setup script and am forced to redo all the
> partitions.  there's got to be any easier way to do this.  Am I
> missing something here?
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:50:56PM +0800, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>> Basically the reason grub won't do what you want right now is because you
>> are not used to it.
>> Lilo hard codes the boot locations of the kernel and initial ram disk 
>> into a
>> block list which breaks every time you rebuild an initrd or recompile or
>> move the kernel.
>> Grub can read file systems, and you can fix it when the boot loader
>> scrambles unlike lilo which just goes
>> lililililililililili
>>
>>
>> You can put lilo on and move to grub once you know how to make it go 
>> beep,
>> how to make it spit its output through a serial port etc if you so 
>> choose.
>>
>> you probably wanted the options
>> speakup_synth=xxxxx debconf/priority=low
>> so it would ask you which boot loader to install; alternatively set the
>> priority to low on the main menu.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
>> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
>>
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>> Yeah, I got past that now.  I did it by pressing down arrow once
>> followed by tab and then typed speakup.synth=spkout.  That part
>> worked.  I am having a hang-up right now as grub is the default loader
>> and after the install finished, I was forced to reboot.  First of all,
>> I don't know how to interract with grub and over-ride kernel
>> parameters; but worse yet, my machine at the moment won't boot into
>> anything!!!.  I have an existing windows partition on the first disk
>> and am I'm installing linux on the second disk.  Apparently, grub did
>> not configure this properly.  It's like windows is trying to boot
>> strait away and grub never comes up at all.  I'm now sitting here
>> waiting to errase the entire linux partition so I can start over with
>> Debian and maybe I can get the thing to skip grub and install lilo
>> instead.  I know lilo from my Slackware days and I know it is capable
>> of booting on one drive and dual booting for both windows and linux.
>> Plus I can make lilo talk at the beginning.  Grub looks to o
>> convoluted to me as a first impression.
>>
>>
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