another attempt to use speakup

another attempt to use speakup

[Bruce Noblick]

Hello all,

I have pulled much of what I have done here from threads on this list but then I took a few leaps of faith on my own to get to a goal that has only very recently come into focus.  I will now explain.

I started with Ubuntu 8.04 and just recently upgraded to 8.10.
Then I opened a shell session with gnome-terminal.
Then I tried a variant on Kerry's instructions to get speakup working.  I built speakup as suggested, successfully.  Since I am using a DECTalk, I skipped the espeakup and did the modprobe and specified speakup_dectlk instead of speakup_soft.
It told me that it worked.
But then it was silent until I shut the computer down.
Then it talked while the computer was going down.
I had hoped that it would come up talking , even if only up to the login prompt, But it didn't.
Then I connected using ssh and had similar results when I did the modprobe command.
Then I saw the thread from just a few days ago about grml.  I downloaded and created the CD, found and read over the cheat sheet and attempted to boot with it and specified grml speakup_synth=dectlk.
I couldn't get that to work.
All I am trying to do now is get something to work with speakup.
I like the idea of a live CD That would allow me to get the best of the command line interface when I want it while allowing me to have the gnome environment.
I feel like I am close to it but I am apparently missing one or more steps.
Any thoughts are welcome.

Thanks!

Bruce Noblick 

Re: another attempt to use speakup

[Kerry Hoath]

I seem to recall in newer speakup that you separate speakup and synth with a 
period
speakup.synth=dectlk

reguarding your building of modules under ubuntu 8.10;
there is nothing running on that port that might upset the dectalk?

Note that speakup will not function inside x, you will need to switch to a 
text console with whatever the key sequence is for this.
left control, left alt f1 seems to spring to mind.
Speakup talked when the system was going down because X windows exited and 
messages were coming up on the text console.

Speakup will not talk in gnome terminal, x-terminal or anything that is GUI 
or when the screen is in graphics mode.
It talks at a text login prompt, and in applications run on a text console.
Sorry if you allready knew all this but perhaps that helps a bit.
Just because you modprobe speakup in a gnome terminal does not mean the 
machine will start talking until you switch to a text console.

If I modprobe speakup modules over a telnet session; the box in question 
won't talk till I hit keys on its keyboard in the text console.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Noblick" <brunobrook@columbus.rr.com>
To: "speakup info" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: another attempt to use speakup


> Hello all,
>
> I have pulled much of what I have done here from threads on this list but 
> then I took a few leaps of faith on my own to get to a goal that has only 
> very recently come into focus.  I will now explain.
>
> I started with Ubuntu 8.04 and just recently upgraded to 8.10.
> Then I opened a shell session with gnome-terminal.
> Then I tried a variant on Kerry's instructions to get speakup working.  I 
> built speakup as suggested, successfully.  Since I am using a DECTalk, I 
> skipped the espeakup and did the modprobe and specified speakup_dectlk 
> instead of speakup_soft.
> It told me that it worked.
> But then it was silent until I shut the computer down.
> Then it talked while the computer was going down.
> I had hoped that it would come up talking , even if only up to the login 
> prompt, But it didn't.
> Then I connected using ssh and had similar results when I did the modprobe 
> command.
> Then I saw the thread from just a few days ago about grml.  I downloaded 
> and created the CD, found and read over the cheat sheet and attempted to 
> boot with it and specified grml speakup_synth=dectlk.
> I couldn't get that to work.
> All I am trying to do now is get something to work with speakup.
> I like the idea of a live CD That would allow me to get the best of the 
> command line interface when I want it while allowing me to have the gnome 
> environment.
> I feel like I am close to it but I am apparently missing one or more 
> steps.
> Any thoughts are welcome.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Noblick
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: another attempt to use speakup

[Christopher Moore]

Bruce,
You should be all set with your ubuntu and speakup.
After logging into gnome, starting the terminal session and modprobe the 
speakup module, you should be able to use speakup by hitting
ctrl+alt+f1.  
This brings up a text console where speakup should talk.

Chris

Re: another attempt to use speakup

[Janina Sajka]

Also, a modprobe will only start Speakup for the current boot. You'll
need to do that again at the next boot to start Speakup. To get it
talking automatically during boot, you need to edit your boot loader,
e.g. grub, and put those arguments in for your kernel.

Janina

Kerry Hoath writes:
> I seem to recall in newer speakup that you separate speakup and synth 
> with a period
> speakup.synth=dectlk
>
> reguarding your building of modules under ubuntu 8.10;
> there is nothing running on that port that might upset the dectalk?
>
> Note that speakup will not function inside x, you will need to switch to 
> a text console with whatever the key sequence is for this.
> left control, left alt f1 seems to spring to mind.
> Speakup talked when the system was going down because X windows exited 
> and messages were coming up on the text console.
>
> Speakup will not talk in gnome terminal, x-terminal or anything that is 
> GUI or when the screen is in graphics mode.
> It talks at a text login prompt, and in applications run on a text console.
> Sorry if you allready knew all this but perhaps that helps a bit.
> Just because you modprobe speakup in a gnome terminal does not mean the  
> machine will start talking until you switch to a text console.
>
> If I modprobe speakup modules over a telnet session; the box in question  
> won't talk till I hit keys on its keyboard in the text console.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Noblick" 
> <brunobrook@columbus.rr.com>
> To: "speakup info" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:59 PM
> Subject: another attempt to use speakup
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have pulled much of what I have done here from threads on this list 
>> but then I took a few leaps of faith on my own to get to a goal that 
>> has only very recently come into focus.  I will now explain.
>>
>> I started with Ubuntu 8.04 and just recently upgraded to 8.10.
>> Then I opened a shell session with gnome-terminal.
>> Then I tried a variant on Kerry's instructions to get speakup working.  
>> I built speakup as suggested, successfully.  Since I am using a 
>> DECTalk, I skipped the espeakup and did the modprobe and specified 
>> speakup_dectlk instead of speakup_soft.
>> It told me that it worked.
>> But then it was silent until I shut the computer down.
>> Then it talked while the computer was going down.
>> I had hoped that it would come up talking , even if only up to the 
>> login prompt, But it didn't.
>> Then I connected using ssh and had similar results when I did the 
>> modprobe command.
>> Then I saw the thread from just a few days ago about grml.  I 
>> downloaded and created the CD, found and read over the cheat sheet and 
>> attempted to boot with it and specified grml speakup_synth=dectlk.
>> I couldn't get that to work.
>> All I am trying to do now is get something to work with speakup.
>> I like the idea of a live CD That would allow me to get the best of the 
>> command line interface when I want it while allowing me to have the 
>> gnome environment.
>> I feel like I am close to it but I am apparently missing one or more  
>> steps.
>> Any thoughts are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Bruce Noblick
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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