Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Greg,

I've updated speakup2.tgz so that it contains bns migration also:
https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup2.tgz

Replace speakup directory under drivers/staging/ with the updated one
and run this from root of kernel source tree: make
M=drivers/staging/speakup clean && make M=drivers/staging/speakup

I still need to update the patches I sent.

Okash

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Thanks very much. It looks like migration for bns got missed out. It
> is not in the patch
> http://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2017-April/060648.html. I
> will fix that today and let you know. It won't require a full kernel
> build this time. Just rebuild of speakup.
>
> Okash
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>> Ok, so I've built the new kernel. I have a braille 'n speak connected
>> to ttyS0. I'm wanting to try the on-board serial port first,
>> before I move to a usb to serial converter.
>>
>> With only the speakup_main module loaded out of the speakup modules, I
>> type in:
>>
>> modprobe speakup_bns ser=0 start=1
>>
>> and get back:
>>
>> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_bns': No such device
>>
>> The relevant dmesg output is:
>>
>> "[   82.864734] speakup_bns: module is from the staging directory, the
>> quality is unknown, you have been warned.
>> [   82.865621] synth probe
>> [   82.865626] Ports not available, trying to steal them
>> [   82.865635] Unable to allocate port at 3f8, errno -16
>> [   82.865637] Braille 'N Speak: not found
>> [   82.865638] bns: device probe failed"
>>
>> The modinfo output is:
>>
>> "filename:
>> /lib/modules/4.10.9/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_bns.ko
>> version:        2.11
>> license:        GPL
>> description:    Speakup support for Braille 'n Speak synthesizers
>> author:         David Borowski
>> author:         Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
>> srcversion:     AD55A47746A5B337C0BBEEE
>> depends:        speakup
>> staging:        Y
>> intree:         Y
>> vermagic:       4.10.9 SMP mod_unload modversions 686
>> parm:           ser:Set the serial port for the synthesizer
>> (0-based). (int)
>> parm:           start:Start the synthesizer once it is
>> loaded. (short)"
>>
>> I thought all the drivers were ported to use the new tty layer
>> support. Is this not the case?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:48:42PM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have updated the repository.
>>>   > Now there is speakup2.tgz instead of speakup.tgz (to avoid
>>> confusion between the two versions)
>>>   > tty-export.patch includes ldisc related exports that were missed
>>> out the first time round
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, the problem is that kernel 4.11 that I developed
>>> against has some issues with USB and therefore not best one to test
>>> against at the moment. speakup.tgz I sent contained some code which
>>> would only compile on 4.11 and that was the problem Greg pointed out.
>>>
>>> I have now gone through the process on my system again and made sure
>>> it compiles on 4.10.x and the above changes reflect that. So please
>>> follow the steps from beginning with the updated tty-export.patch and
>>> speakup2.tgz.
>>>
>>> Okash
>>
>>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Okash and list,
I have one good news, and two bad news. I'll start with the good news
first. Again, I have a bns connected to ttyS0, and it works! I tested
only for about five minutes or so, but reading the full screen, screen
review, changing volume, pitch, and rate all work as expected. 

Now for the first bad news. I have a usb to serial converter which
uses the belkin_sa module, and shows up as ttyUSB0. The machine I'm
testing on has two on board serial ports ttyS0, and ttyS1. It has no
other modems, or serial boards. I connected my bns to the usb to
serial converter. I first assumed that since the machine has two
serial ports, the usb to serial converter would be passed as
ser=2. When I did that I got no speech from the bns. I saw in dmesg
that the speakup_bns module loaded, and the last line was "synth
probe." I then thought that maybe 0-3 was reserved for standard serial
ports, and I tried passing ser=4 to the speakup_bns module. I don't
know what dmesg shows or doesn't show, because my system locks up
about 30 seconds after I load the module, forcing me to do a
reset. Doing dmesg >dmesg during that 30 second window results in an
empty file called dmesg once I boot back up.

This begs two questions. First, does ser=x where x is an integer still
hold for usb to serial converters? Second, on a machine with two on
board standard serial ports ttyS0 and ttyS1, assuming ser=x still
holds true, would a usb to serial converter be ser=3 after the two
standard ports, or ser=4 as the first non-standard port, or something
else?

It's worth noting the results of a couple of tests I think. With the
speakup_bns modules *not* loaded, at the shell prompt, I do:
echo "hello" >/dev/ttyS0
with the bns connected to ttyS0, and the bns says "hello" as
expected. If I connect the bns to the usb to serial converter, and do:
echo "hello" >/dev/ttyUSB0
at all possible baud rates on the bns from 150 to 38400, I get garbage
from the bns. Unfortunately, setserial doesn't seem to know how to
talk to the usb to serial converter uart, so I can't use it to change
baud rates on the pc side. If I then use minicom with the bns
connected to the usb to serial converter, and type hello in minicom, I
do hear the bns speak "h e l l o" as I type it in minicom. I also use
this usb to serial converter with brltty to drive an alva340 braille
display with no problems.

The second bad news is that I also tested with the speakup_dtlk
module, and got no speech. The dmesg output is:

"[   15.198916] speakup_dtlk: module is from the staging directory, the
quality is unknown, you have been warned.
[   15.201084] synth probe
[   15.201092] Probing for DoubleTalk.
[   15.201098] DoubleTalk PC: not found
[   15.201102] dtlk: device probe failed"

My dtlk is on the default 29e-29f i/o ports. The modinfo output is:

"filename:
/lib/modules/4.10.9/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_dtlk.ko
version:        2.10
license:        GPL
description:    Speakup support for DoubleTalk PC synthesizers
author:         David Borowski
author:         Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
srcversion:     DAC7EC81AED58DF124C47E0
depends:        speakup
staging:        Y
vermagic:       4.10.9 SMP mod_unload modversions 686
parm:           port:Set the port for the synthesizer (override
probing). (int)
parm:           start:Start the synthesizer once it is
loaded. (short)"

Thanks.

Greg


On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 09:46:32AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Greg,
> 
> I've updated speakup2.tgz so that it contains bns migration also:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup2.tgz
> 
> Replace speakup directory under drivers/staging/ with the updated one
> and run this from root of kernel source tree: make
> M=drivers/staging/speakup clean && make M=drivers/staging/speakup
> 
> I still need to update the patches I sent.
> 
> Okash


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Kirk Reiser]

I think it's great you all are making headway. I have one comment
however, you should be using speakup_ltlk for the DoubleTalk LT and
not the speakup_dtlk which is for the internal dDoubleTalk PC ISA
card.

   keep up the good work!


On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Okash and list,
> I have one good news, and two bad news. I'll start with the good news
> first. Again, I have a bns connected to ttyS0, and it works! I tested
> only for about five minutes or so, but reading the full screen, screen
> review, changing volume, pitch, and rate all work as expected. 
>
> Now for the first bad news. I have a usb to serial converter which
> uses the belkin_sa module, and shows up as ttyUSB0. The machine I'm
> testing on has two on board serial ports ttyS0, and ttyS1. It has no
> other modems, or serial boards. I connected my bns to the usb to
> serial converter. I first assumed that since the machine has two
> serial ports, the usb to serial converter would be passed as
> ser=2. When I did that I got no speech from the bns. I saw in dmesg
> that the speakup_bns module loaded, and the last line was "synth
> probe." I then thought that maybe 0-3 was reserved for standard serial
> ports, and I tried passing ser=4 to the speakup_bns module. I don't
> know what dmesg shows or doesn't show, because my system locks up
> about 30 seconds after I load the module, forcing me to do a
> reset. Doing dmesg >dmesg during that 30 second window results in an
> empty file called dmesg once I boot back up.
>
> This begs two questions. First, does ser=x where x is an integer still
> hold for usb to serial converters? Second, on a machine with two on
> board standard serial ports ttyS0 and ttyS1, assuming ser=x still
> holds true, would a usb to serial converter be ser=3 after the two
> standard ports, or ser=4 as the first non-standard port, or something
> else?
>
> It's worth noting the results of a couple of tests I think. With the
> speakup_bns modules *not* loaded, at the shell prompt, I do:
> echo "hello" >/dev/ttyS0
> with the bns connected to ttyS0, and the bns says "hello" as
> expected. If I connect the bns to the usb to serial converter, and do:
> echo "hello" >/dev/ttyUSB0
> at all possible baud rates on the bns from 150 to 38400, I get garbage
> from the bns. Unfortunately, setserial doesn't seem to know how to
> talk to the usb to serial converter uart, so I can't use it to change
> baud rates on the pc side. If I then use minicom with the bns
> connected to the usb to serial converter, and type hello in minicom, I
> do hear the bns speak "h e l l o" as I type it in minicom. I also use
> this usb to serial converter with brltty to drive an alva340 braille
> display with no problems.
>
> The second bad news is that I also tested with the speakup_dtlk
> module, and got no speech. The dmesg output is:
>
> "[   15.198916] speakup_dtlk: module is from the staging directory, the
> quality is unknown, you have been warned.
> [   15.201084] synth probe
> [   15.201092] Probing for DoubleTalk.
> [   15.201098] DoubleTalk PC: not found
> [   15.201102] dtlk: device probe failed"
>
> My dtlk is on the default 29e-29f i/o ports. The modinfo output is:
>
> "filename:
> /lib/modules/4.10.9/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_dtlk.ko
> version:        2.10
> license:        GPL
> description:    Speakup support for DoubleTalk PC synthesizers
> author:         David Borowski
> author:         Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> srcversion:     DAC7EC81AED58DF124C47E0
> depends:        speakup
> staging:        Y
> vermagic:       4.10.9 SMP mod_unload modversions 686
> parm:           port:Set the port for the synthesizer (override
> probing). (int)
> parm:           start:Start the synthesizer once it is
> loaded. (short)"
>
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 09:46:32AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Greg,
>> 
>> I've updated speakup2.tgz so that it contains bns migration also:
>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup2.tgz
>> 
>> Replace speakup directory under drivers/staging/ with the updated one
>> and run this from root of kernel source tree: make
>> M=drivers/staging/speakup clean && make M=drivers/staging/speakup
>> 
>> I still need to update the patches I sent.
>> 
>> Okash
>
>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Just to clarify, I am *not* using a doubletalk lt or trippletalk
serial synthesizer. I am in fact using a doubletalk pc synthesizer,
the one which is a card which goes into an isa slot on the
motherboard.

Greg


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:37:46PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> I think it's great you all are making headway. I have one comment
> however, you should be using speakup_ltlk for the DoubleTalk LT and
> not the speakup_dtlk which is for the internal dDoubleTalk PC ISA
> card.
> 
>   keep up the good work!
> 
> 


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Kirk Reiser]

Ah, sorry about that. I didn't think there were any ISA bus machines around anymore! 'grin'

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Just to clarify, I am *not* using a doubletalk lt or trippletalk
> serial synthesizer. I am in fact using a doubletalk pc synthesizer,
> the one which is a card which goes into an isa slot on the
> motherboard.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:37:46PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
>> I think it's great you all are making headway. I have one comment
>> however, you should be using speakup_ltlk for the DoubleTalk LT and
>> not the speakup_dtlk which is for the internal dDoubleTalk PC ISA
>> card.
>>
>>   keep up the good work!
>> 
>> 
>
>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Well, there aren't (a fake, type "ISA motherboard" into amazon). I
built this box in 2002. It's gone through a few rebuilds over the
years, but the cpu, mobo, and case are still the originals. The
doubletalk card started out in an entirely other machine (now gone)
back in 1998.

Greg


On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 07:10:13PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> Ah, sorry about that. I didn't think there were any ISA bus machines around anymore! 'grin'
> 


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Tom Fowle]

There are at least two of us with isa bus machines,
Greg who knows what he's doing and me who doesn't yet.

Actually you can, if you're really weird, still get motherboards with one or
more isa slots.

They're limited to single core processors sadly.

More than you wanted to know I'm sure <GRIN>
tom Fowle 

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 07:10:13PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> Ah, sorry about that. I didn't think there were any ISA bus machines around anymore! 'grin'
> 
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> >Just to clarify, I am *not* using a doubletalk lt or trippletalk
> >serial synthesizer. I am in fact using a doubletalk pc synthesizer,
> >the one which is a card which goes into an isa slot on the
> >motherboard.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:37:46PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> >>I think it's great you all are making headway. I have one comment
> >>however, you should be using speakup_ltlk for the DoubleTalk LT and
> >>not the speakup_dtlk which is for the internal dDoubleTalk PC ISA
> >>card.
> >>
> >>  keep up the good work!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >-- 
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Butch Bussen]

Where would a person get boards with an isa slot?
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Tom 
Fowle wrote:

> There are at least two of us with isa bus machines,
> Greg who knows what he's doing and me who doesn't yet.
>
> Actually you can, if you're really weird, still get motherboards with one or
> more isa slots.
>
> They're limited to single core processors sadly.
>
> More than you wanted to know I'm sure <GRIN>
> tom Fowle
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 07:10:13PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
>> Ah, sorry about that. I didn't think there were any ISA bus machines around anymore! 'grin'
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>>
>>> Just to clarify, I am *not* using a doubletalk lt or trippletalk
>>> serial synthesizer. I am in fact using a doubletalk pc synthesizer,
>>> the one which is a card which goes into an isa slot on the
>>> motherboard.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:37:46PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
>>>> I think it's great you all are making headway. I have one comment
>>>> however, you should be using speakup_ltlk for the DoubleTalk LT and
>>>> not the speakup_dtlk which is for the internal dDoubleTalk PC ISA
>>>> card.
>>>>
>>>>  keep up the good work!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> web site: http://www.gregn.net
>>> gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc
>>> skype: gregn1
>>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first)
>>> If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts.
>>>
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>>
>> --
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changed subject: ISA slot mother boards:

[Tom Fowle]

butch
Google Motherboard with "ISA SLOT"

note the quotes around isa slot, without them you'll get finds for isa and
slot seperately.
There are lots of hits

tom Fowle

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:20:19PM -0700, Butch Bussen wrote:
> Where would a person get boards with an isa slot?
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Tom Fowle wrote:
> 
> >There are at least two of us with isa bus machines,
> >Greg who knows what he's doing and me who doesn't yet.
> >
> >Actually you can, if you're really weird, still get motherboards with one or
> >more isa slots.
> >
> >They're limited to single core processors sadly.
> >
> >More than you wanted to know I'm sure <GRIN>
> >tom Fowle
> >
> >On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 07:10:13PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> >>Ah, sorry about that. I didn't think there were any ISA bus machines around anymore! 'grin'
> >>
> >>On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >>
> >>>Just to clarify, I am *not* using a doubletalk lt or trippletalk
> >>>serial synthesizer. I am in fact using a doubletalk pc synthesizer,
> >>>the one which is a card which goes into an isa slot on the
> >>>motherboard.
> >>>
> >>>Greg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:37:46PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> >>>>I think it's great you all are making headway. I have one comment
> >>>>however, you should be using speakup_ltlk for the DoubleTalk LT and
> >>>>not the speakup_dtlk which is for the internal dDoubleTalk PC ISA
> >>>>card.
> >>>>
> >>>> keep up the good work!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>web site: http://www.gregn.net
> >>>gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc
> >>>skype: gregn1
> >>>(authorization required, add me to your contacts list first)
> >>>If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts.
> >>>
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> >>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Greg,

Thanks for the tests, very helpful. Okay so it doesn't look too bad.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:34:21PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Okash and list,
> I have one good news, and two bad news. I'll start with the good news
> first. Again, I have a bns connected to ttyS0, and it works! I tested
> only for about five minutes or so, but reading the full screen, screen
> review, changing volume, pitch, and rate all work as expected. 
Nice!

> 
> Now for the first bad news. I have a usb to serial converter which
> uses the belkin_sa module, and shows up as ttyUSB0.
So the code doesn't yet allow the user to specify ttyUSB yet but you can
test ttyUSB by making following change in the speakup code:

In spk_ttyio.c file, inside spk_ttyio_initialise_ldisc() function,
replace the line

tty = tty_open_by_driver(MKDEV(4, (ser +  64)), NULL, NULL);

with

tty = tty_open_by_driver(MKDEV(188, ser), NULL, NULL);

where (188, 0) will represent ttyUSB0 - 0 being default value of ser.

> The machine I'm
> testing on has two on board serial ports ttyS0, and ttyS1. It has no
> other modems, or serial boards. I connected my bns to the usb to
> serial converter. I first assumed that since the machine has two
> serial ports, the usb to serial converter would be passed as
> ser=2. When I did that I got no speech from the bns. I saw in dmesg
> that the speakup_bns module loaded, and the last line was "synth
> probe." I then thought that maybe 0-3 was reserved for standard serial
> ports, and I tried passing ser=4 to the speakup_bns module. I don't
> know what dmesg shows or doesn't show, because my system locks up
> about 30 seconds after I load the module,
That doesn't look good. May be something we need to guard against. With
serdev work still in flux (and pending reply for functionality we want)
I am not sure whether we need to put in those guards just yet, as that
will probably be implemented differently with serdev.

> forcing me to do a
> reset. Doing dmesg >dmesg during that 30 second window results in an
> empty file called dmesg once I boot back up.
> 
> This begs two questions. First, does ser=x where x is an integer still
> hold for usb to serial converters?
Yes ser will still hold but we will need another param to specify
ttyUSB.

> Second, on a machine with two on
> board standard serial ports ttyS0 and ttyS1, assuming ser=x still
> holds true, would a usb to serial converter be ser=3 after the two
> standard ports, or ser=4 as the first non-standard port, or something
> else?
> 
> It's worth noting the results of a couple of tests I think. With the
> speakup_bns modules *not* loaded, at the shell prompt, I do:
> echo "hello" >/dev/ttyS0
> with the bns connected to ttyS0, and the bns says "hello" as
> expected. If I connect the bns to the usb to serial converter, and do:
> echo "hello" >/dev/ttyUSB0
> at all possible baud rates on the bns from 150 to 38400, I get garbage
> from the bns. Unfortunately, setserial doesn't seem to know how to
> talk to the usb to serial converter uart, so I can't use it to change
> baud rates on the pc side. If I then use minicom with the bns
> connected to the usb to serial converter, and type hello in minicom, I
> do hear the bns speak "h e l l o" as I type it in minicom. I also use
> this usb to serial converter with brltty to drive an alva340 braille
> display with no problems.
Thanks for the tests! Additional diagnostics are always useful.

> 
> The second bad news is that I also tested with the speakup_dtlk
> module, and got no speech.
Was it working before? These changes don't migrate PC synths: acsntpc,
decpc, keypc and dtlk.

> The dmesg output is:
> 
> "[   15.198916] speakup_dtlk: module is from the staging directory, the
> quality is unknown, you have been warned.
> [   15.201084] synth probe
> [   15.201092] Probing for DoubleTalk.
> [   15.201098] DoubleTalk PC: not found
> [   15.201102] dtlk: device probe failed"
> 
> My dtlk is on the default 29e-29f i/o ports. The modinfo output is:
> 
> "filename:
> /lib/modules/4.10.9/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_dtlk.ko
> version:        2.10
> license:        GPL
> description:    Speakup support for DoubleTalk PC synthesizers
> author:         David Borowski
> author:         Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> srcversion:     DAC7EC81AED58DF124C47E0
> depends:        speakup
> staging:        Y
> vermagic:       4.10.9 SMP mod_unload modversions 686
> parm:           port:Set the port for the synthesizer (override
> probing). (int)
> parm:           start:Start the synthesizer once it is
> loaded. (short)"

Once again, the feedback is very useful so really appreciate that :)

Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 08:38:28AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> So the code doesn't yet allow the user to specify ttyUSB yet but you can
> test ttyUSB by making following change in the speakup code:

Thanks. Will play with this, and report back.

> Was it working before? These changes don't migrate PC synths: acsntpc,
> decpc, keypc and dtlk.

Oh, ok. I was under the impression that all synths, not just the
serial ones, were being migrated. To answer your question, the last
kernel that the speakup_dtlk module works for me on is 3.2.0 from
debian wheezy. Under the 3.16.0 kernel in debian/devuan jessie,
modprobe speakup_dtlk locks up my system.

Thanks to Okash and Samuel for your work. It's much appreciated.

Greg


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi Okash and list,
I again have good news, and bad news. The good news is that after
making the changes Okash described in spk_ttyio.c and recompiling the
speakup modules, the bns driver works over ttyUSB0! Very awesome! I
remember wanting this when I got my first machine without an on board
serial port in 2000. I also used the driver a lot more extensively
over ttyS0 and over ttyUSB0, and still didn't notice issues.

Now, for the bad news. The speakup_bns driver isn't releasing the
serial port. This is true for both ttyS0 and ttyUSB0. When I unload
speakup_bns, and attempt to use minicom over either port, I see this
in dmesg:

"[  109.515946] ttyS ttyS0: tty_open: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
[  110.517304] ttyS ttyS0: tty_release: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
[  110.517400] ttyS ttyS0: tty_open: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
[  111.518555] ttyS ttyS0: tty_release: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
[  111.518663] ttyS ttyS0: tty_open: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
[  113.436335] ttyS ttyS0: tty_release: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)"

"[  807.947758] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_open: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
[  808.152816] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_release: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
[  808.155764] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_open: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
[  808.520824] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_release: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
[  808.523768] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_open: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
[  810.947111] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_release: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)"

If I modprobe speakup_bns again, I can use it just fine, unload, and
reload again without problems. I also found that after using
speakup_bns over the usb to serial converter and unloading the
speakup_bns module, I then can't unload the belkin_sa module, even
though I see no other modules using it from lsmod. I assume the same
holds true for the standard port modules, but didn't try unloading
them as well. When I unplug the usb to serial converter after using it
with speakup_bns, and unloading speakup_bns, and plug it back in, it
gets assigned /dev/ttyUSB1 instead of being assigned /dev/ttyUSB0 as
normally happens.

Thanks again for your work.

Greg


On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 08:38:28AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> Thanks for the tests, very helpful. Okay so it doesn't look too bad.
> 


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi all and Greg,

That's good news! Regarding ttyS0 and ttyUSB0 lockup, they are held by
speakup.ko. Synth specific modules only use them. So unloading
speakup.ko should free those.

Like I mentioned in another thread, I tested Apollo that Keith sent
me, and that works fine. DoubleTalk was also looking good. So overall
this change taking good shape :)

We _do_ need to test DECEXT though, in order to upstream the changes.
That and serdev are the only two things outstanding now.

Okash

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> Hi Okash and list,
> I again have good news, and bad news. The good news is that after
> making the changes Okash described in spk_ttyio.c and recompiling the
> speakup modules, the bns driver works over ttyUSB0! Very awesome! I
> remember wanting this when I got my first machine without an on board
> serial port in 2000. I also used the driver a lot more extensively
> over ttyS0 and over ttyUSB0, and still didn't notice issues.
>
> Now, for the bad news. The speakup_bns driver isn't releasing the
> serial port. This is true for both ttyS0 and ttyUSB0. When I unload
> speakup_bns, and attempt to use minicom over either port, I see this
> in dmesg:
>
> "[  109.515946] ttyS ttyS0: tty_open: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
> [  110.517304] ttyS ttyS0: tty_release: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
> [  110.517400] ttyS ttyS0: tty_open: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
> [  111.518555] ttyS ttyS0: tty_release: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
> [  111.518663] ttyS ttyS0: tty_open: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)
> [  113.436335] ttyS ttyS0: tty_release: tty->count(2) != #fd's(1)"
>
> "[  807.947758] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_open: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
> [  808.152816] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_release: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
> [  808.155764] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_open: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
> [  808.520824] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_release: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
> [  808.523768] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_open: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)
> [  810.947111] ttyUSB ttyUSB0: tty_release: tty->count(3) != #fd's(1)"
>
> If I modprobe speakup_bns again, I can use it just fine, unload, and
> reload again without problems. I also found that after using
> speakup_bns over the usb to serial converter and unloading the
> speakup_bns module, I then can't unload the belkin_sa module, even
> though I see no other modules using it from lsmod. I assume the same
> holds true for the standard port modules, but didn't try unloading
> them as well. When I unplug the usb to serial converter after using it
> with speakup_bns, and unloading speakup_bns, and plug it back in, it
> gets assigned /dev/ttyUSB1 instead of being assigned /dev/ttyUSB0 as
> normally happens.
>
> Thanks again for your work.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 08:38:28AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Thanks for the tests, very helpful. Okay so it doesn't look too bad.
>>
>
>
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DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi,

As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
changes are okay, do give a shout.

Cheers!
Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi,

Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
following two files that I have shared:
 - speakup.tgz:
https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
 - tty-export.patch:
https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch

1. Download Linux kernel code:
a. download stable kernel source from
https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz

2. Apply patches:
a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
(now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
(output of above should be following three lines:
patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
patching file include/linux/tty.h)
(if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!

3. Configure:
a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
(this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
/boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
d. update the config: make oldconfig
(this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
each by pressing enter)
e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
e. that's it, kernel configured!

4. Compile and install:
(IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
 following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
system. but it may
a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
(this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
an hour or may be more)
b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
(this should return zero)
c. now run: sudo make modules_install
(again this may take a little while)
d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
(NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
(Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)

5. Reboot and test decext:
a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
able to test it with decext the same way as before.

Thanks!
Okash

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>
> Cheers!
> Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
they will not break your system.

Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt

Cheers!
Okash

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
> following two files that I have shared:
>  - speakup.tgz:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>  - tty-export.patch:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>
> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
> a. download stable kernel source from
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>
> 2. Apply patches:
> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
> (output of above should be following three lines:
> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>
> 3. Configure:
> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
> d. update the config: make oldconfig
> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
> each by pressing enter)
> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
> e. that's it, kernel configured!
>
> 4. Compile and install:
> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>  following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
> system. but it may
> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
> an hour or may be more)
> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
> (this should return zero)
> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
> (again this may take a little while)
> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>
> 5. Reboot and test decext:
> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>
> Thanks!
> Okash
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
>> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
>> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

Is speakout available in this speakup directory -- also -- can I use
older kernel like 4.4.54 or 4.9.x?


On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:49:28 -0400,
Okash Khawaja wrote:
> 
> Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
> Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
> they will not break your system.
> 
> Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
> 
> Cheers!
> Okash
> 
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
> > following two files that I have shared:
> >  - speakup.tgz:
> > https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
> >  - tty-export.patch:
> > https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
> >
> > 1. Download Linux kernel code:
> > a. download stable kernel source from
> > https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> > b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> >
> > 2. Apply patches:
> > a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
> > b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
> > c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
> > path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
> > d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
> > e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
> > (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
> > f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
> > g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
> > (output of above should be following three lines:
> > patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> > patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
> > patching file include/linux/tty.h)
> > (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
> > from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
> > h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
> >
> > 3. Configure:
> > a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
> > b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
> > (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
> > c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
> > /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
> > d. update the config: make oldconfig
> > (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
> > each by pressing enter)
> > e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
> > it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
> > e. that's it, kernel configured!
> >
> > 4. Compile and install:
> > (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
> >  following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
> > system. but it may
> > a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
> > (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
> > an hour or may be more)
> > b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
> > (this should return zero)
> > c. now run: sudo make modules_install
> > (again this may take a little while)
> > d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
> > (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
> > (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
> >
> > 5. Reboot and test decext:
> > a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
> > b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
> > able to test it with decext the same way as before.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Okash
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
> >> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
> >> changes are okay, do give a shout.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >> Okash
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How do
you spend it?

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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi,

> On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:57, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> Is speakout available in this speakup directory
Yes

> -- also -- can I use
> older kernel like 4.4.54 or 4.9.x?
I think that should work fine although the tty patch may not apply cleanly. I haven't tried it on those.

Thanks,
Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.

So please use these steps to test other synths too!

Thanks,
Okash

> On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:49, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
> Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
> they will not break your system.
> 
> Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
> 
> Cheers!
> Okash
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
>> following two files that I have shared:
>> - speakup.tgz:
>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>> - tty-export.patch:
>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>> 
>> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
>> a. download stable kernel source from
>> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>> 
>> 2. Apply patches:
>> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
>> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
>> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
>> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
>> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
>> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
>> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
>> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
>> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
>> (output of above should be following three lines:
>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
>> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
>> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
>> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
>> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>> 
>> 3. Configure:
>> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
>> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>> d. update the config: make oldconfig
>> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
>> each by pressing enter)
>> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
>> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
>> e. that's it, kernel configured!
>> 
>> 4. Compile and install:
>> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>> following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
>> system. but it may
>> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
>> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
>> an hour or may be more)
>> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
>> (this should return zero)
>> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
>> (again this may take a little while)
>> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
>> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
>> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>> 
>> 5. Reboot and test decext:
>> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
>> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
>> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Okash
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
>>> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
>>> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

I am going to do a fresh install of debian on a spare drive to test the 
patches.

Are your instructions the same for am64 and i386 kernels?

Also, the default speech rate is too slow for me so can I set a higher 
default rate during the process?  If so, how do I do this?

Thanks.

On 12/04/17 09:07, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>
> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>
> Thanks,
> Okash
>
>> On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:49, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
>> Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
>> they will not break your system.
>>
>> Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Okash
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
>>> following two files that I have shared:
>>> - speakup.tgz:
>>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>>> - tty-export.patch:
>>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>>>
>>> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
>>> a. download stable kernel source from
>>> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>>> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>>>
>>> 2. Apply patches:
>>> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
>>> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
>>> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
>>> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
>>> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
>>> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
>>> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
>>> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
>>> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
>>> (output of above should be following three lines:
>>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
>>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
>>> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
>>> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
>>> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
>>> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>>>
>>> 3. Configure:
>>> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
>>> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>>> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>>> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>>> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>>> d. update the config: make oldconfig
>>> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
>>> each by pressing enter)
>>> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
>>> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
>>> e. that's it, kernel configured!
>>>
>>> 4. Compile and install:
>>> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>>> following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
>>> system. but it may
>>> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
>>> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
>>> an hour or may be more)
>>> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
>>> (this should return zero)
>>> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
>>> (again this may take a little while)
>>> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
>>> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
>>> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>>>
>>> 5. Reboot and test decext:
>>> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
>>> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
>>> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Okash
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
>>>> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
>>>> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Okash
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

> On 12 Apr 2017, at 10:39, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I am going to do a fresh install of debian on a spare drive to test the patches.
> 
> Are your instructions the same for am64 and i386 kernels?
Yes

> 
> Also, the default speech rate is too slow for me so can I set a higher default rate during the process?  If so, how do I do this?
Not exactly sure if this was a restriction from before? The changes I have submitted don't  address speech rate specifically.

May be someone else can shed some light here?

> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> On 12/04/17 09:07, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>> 
>> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Okash
>> 
>>> On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:49, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
>>> Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
>>> they will not break your system.
>>> 
>>> Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> Okash
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
>>>> following two files that I have shared:
>>>> - speakup.tgz:
>>>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>>>> - tty-export.patch:
>>>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
>>>> a. download stable kernel source from
>>>> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>>>> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Apply patches:
>>>> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
>>>> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
>>>> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
>>>> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
>>>> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
>>>> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
>>>> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
>>>> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
>>>> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
>>>> (output of above should be following three lines:
>>>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
>>>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
>>>> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
>>>> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
>>>> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
>>>> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Configure:
>>>> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
>>>> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>>>> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>>>> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>>>> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>>>> d. update the config: make oldconfig
>>>> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
>>>> each by pressing enter)
>>>> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
>>>> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
>>>> e. that's it, kernel configured!
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Compile and install:
>>>> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>>>> following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
>>>> system. but it may
>>>> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
>>>> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
>>>> an hour or may be more)
>>>> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
>>>> (this should return zero)
>>>> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
>>>> (again this may take a little while)
>>>> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
>>>> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
>>>> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>>>> 
>>>> 5. Reboot and test decext:
>>>> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
>>>> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
>>>> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Okash
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
>>>>> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
>>>>> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> Okash
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Karen Lewellen]

Actually, I have a question.
  One of the many reasons  why I do not use speakup is that there is no 
driver for my synthesizer.
the reading edge utilizes  dectalk synthesis, perhaps? the same as the 
express.  the edge does have  drivers in other screen reading products, but 
not  in Linux.
Any chance of this changing?
Thanks,
Kare


On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Keith Barrett wrote:

> I am going to do a fresh install of debian on a spare drive to test the 
> patches.
>
> Are your instructions the same for am64 and i386 kernels?
>
> Also, the default speech rate is too slow for me so can I set a higher 
> default rate during the process?  If so, how do I do this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 12/04/17 09:07, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>  Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext.
>>  The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>>
>>  So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  Okash
>> 
>> >  On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:49, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >  Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
>> >  Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
>> >  they will not break your system.
>> > 
>> >  Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
>> >  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
>> > 
>> >  Cheers!
>> >  Okash
>> > 
>> > >  On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja 
>> > >  <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >  Hi,
>> > > 
>> > >  Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
>> > >  following two files that I have shared:
>> > >  - speakup.tgz:
>> > >  https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>> > >  - tty-export.patch:
>> > >  https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>> > > 
>> > >  1. Download Linux kernel code:
>> > >  a. download stable kernel source from
>> > >  https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>> > >  b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>> > > 
>> > >  2. Apply patches:
>> > >  a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
>> > >  b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
>> > >  c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
>> > >  path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
>> > >  d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
>> > >  e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
>> > >  (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
>> > >  f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
>> > >  g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
>> > >  (output of above should be following three lines:
>> > >  patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
>> > >  patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
>> > >  patching file include/linux/tty.h)
>> > >  (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
>> > >  from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
>> > >  h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>> > > 
>> > >  3. Configure:
>> > >  a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. 
>> > >  linux-4.10.9
>> > >  b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls 
>> > >  /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>> > >  (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>> > >  c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>> > >  /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>> > >  d. update the config: make oldconfig
>> > >  (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
>> > >  each by pressing enter)
>> > >  e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
>> > >  it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
>> > >  e. that's it, kernel configured!
>> > > 
>> > >  4. Compile and install:
>> > >  (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your 
>> > >  distro.
>> > >  following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
>> > >  system. but it may
>> > >  a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
>> > >  (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
>> > >  an hour or may be more)
>> > >  b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
>> > >  (this should return zero)
>> > >  c. now run: sudo make modules_install
>> > >  (again this may take a little while)
>> > >  d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
>> > >  (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will 
>> > >  load)
>> > >  (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>> > > 
>> > >  5. Reboot and test decext:
>> > >  a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
>> > >  b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
>> > >  able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>> > > 
>> > >  Thanks!
>> > >  Okash
>> > > 
>> > > >  On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja 
>> > > >  <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >  Hi,
>> > > > 
>> > > >  As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk 
>> > > >  External
>> > > >  which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure 
>> > > >  those
>> > > >  changes are okay, do give a shout.
>> > > > 
>> > > >  Cheers!
>> > > >  Okash
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Speakup mailing list
>>  Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>  http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Karen,

I don't know about reading edge. If it does use dectalk then there may be support already available (or become available after some tweaks). However - and this is important - trying a incorrect driver on a synth may damage or even brick that synth. 

Not sure if someone else can share thoughts on reading edge. 

Thanks,
Okash

> On 12 Apr 2017, at 21:46, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I have a question.
> One of the many reasons  why I do not use speakup is that there is no driver for my synthesizer.
> the reading edge utilizes  dectalk synthesis, perhaps? the same as the express.  the edge does have  drivers in other screen reading products, but not  in Linux.
> Any chance of this changing?
> Thanks,
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, Keith Barrett wrote:
>> 
>> I am going to do a fresh install of debian on a spare drive to test the patches.
>> 
>> Are your instructions the same for am64 and i386 kernels?
>> 
>> Also, the default speech rate is too slow for me so can I set a higher default rate during the process?  If so, how do I do this?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> On 12/04/17 09:07, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext.
>>> The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>>> 
>>> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Okash
>>> >  On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:49, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >  Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
>>> >  Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
>>> >  they will not break your system.
>>> > >  Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
>>> >  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
>>> > >  Cheers!
>>> >  Okash
>>> > > >  On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja > >  <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >  Hi,
>>> > > > >  Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
>>> > >  following two files that I have shared:
>>> > >  - speakup.tgz:
>>> > >  https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>>> > >  - tty-export.patch:
>>> > >  https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>>> > > > >  1. Download Linux kernel code:
>>> > >  a. download stable kernel source from
>>> > >  https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>>> > >  b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>>> > > > >  2. Apply patches:
>>> > >  a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
>>> > >  b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
>>> > >  c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
>>> > >  path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
>>> > >  d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
>>> > >  e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
>>> > >  (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
>>> > >  f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
>>> > >  g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
>>> > >  (output of above should be following three lines:
>>> > >  patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
>>> > >  patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
>>> > >  patching file include/linux/tty.h)
>>> > >  (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
>>> > >  from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
>>> > >  h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>>> > > > >  3. Configure:
>>> > >  a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. > >  linux-4.10.9
>>> > >  b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls > >  /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>>> > >  (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>>> > >  c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>>> > >  /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>>> > >  d. update the config: make oldconfig
>>> > >  (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
>>> > >  each by pressing enter)
>>> > >  e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
>>> > >  it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
>>> > >  e. that's it, kernel configured!
>>> > > > >  4. Compile and install:
>>> > >  (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your > >  distro.
>>> > >  following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
>>> > >  system. but it may
>>> > >  a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
>>> > >  (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
>>> > >  an hour or may be more)
>>> > >  b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
>>> > >  (this should return zero)
>>> > >  c. now run: sudo make modules_install
>>> > >  (again this may take a little while)
>>> > >  d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
>>> > >  (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will > >  load)
>>> > >  (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>>> > > > >  5. Reboot and test decext:
>>> > >  a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
>>> > >  b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
>>> > >  able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>>> > > > >  Thanks!
>>> > >  Okash
>>> > > > > >  On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja > > >  <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >  Hi,
>>> > > > > > >  As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk > > >  External
>>> > > >  which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure > > >  those
>>> > > >  changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>> > > > > > >  Cheers!
>>> > > >  Okash
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Tom Fowle]

Will this process work on 32 bit jessie?
and for the wimps among us, how does one get the old kernel back if the new
version doesn't work?
thanks
tom Fowle

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:39:03AM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
> I am going to do a fresh install of debian on a spare drive to test
> the patches.
> 
> Are your instructions the same for am64 and i386 kernels?
> 
> Also, the default speech rate is too slow for me so can I set a
> higher default rate during the process?  If so, how do I do this?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 12/04/17 09:07, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
> >
> >So please use these steps to test other synths too!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Okash
> >
> >>On 11 Apr 2017, at 19:49, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Please be careful at step 4 as it may break your system. Even on
> >>Debian based system, the steps I have mentioned are no guarantee that
> >>they will not break your system.
> >>
> >>Also, you can also access the instructions from here:
> >>https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt
> >>
> >>Cheers!
> >>Okash
> >>
> >>>On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
> >>>following two files that I have shared:
> >>>- speakup.tgz:
> >>>https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
> >>>- tty-export.patch:
> >>>https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
> >>>
> >>>1. Download Linux kernel code:
> >>>a. download stable kernel source from
> >>>https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> >>>b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> >>>
> >>>2. Apply patches:
> >>>a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
> >>>b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
> >>>c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
> >>>path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
> >>>d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
> >>>e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
> >>>(now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
> >>>f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
> >>>g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
> >>>(output of above should be following three lines:
> >>>patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> >>>patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
> >>>patching file include/linux/tty.h)
> >>>(if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
> >>>from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
> >>>h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
> >>>
> >>>3. Configure:
> >>>a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
> >>>b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
> >>>(this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
> >>>c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
> >>>/boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
> >>>d. update the config: make oldconfig
> >>>(this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
> >>>each by pressing enter)
> >>>e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
> >>>it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
> >>>e. that's it, kernel configured!
> >>>
> >>>4. Compile and install:
> >>>(IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
> >>>following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
> >>>system. but it may
> >>>a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
> >>>(this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
> >>>an hour or may be more)
> >>>b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
> >>>(this should return zero)
> >>>c. now run: sudo make modules_install
> >>>(again this may take a little while)
> >>>d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
> >>>(NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
> >>>(Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
> >>>
> >>>5. Reboot and test decext:
> >>>a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
> >>>b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
> >>>able to test it with decext the same way as before.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks!
> >>>Okash
> >>>
> >>>>On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
> >>>>which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
> >>>>changes are okay, do give a shout.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers!
> >>>>Okash
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

It should work under 32-bit debian or devuan jessie. I plan to try
this under that very environment soon, maybe even this weekend with a
bns and dtlk. As for getting back to the old kernel, the easiest thing
I can think of is to get familiar with your boot loaders menu, either
that, or access grub2 with a serial console.

Greg


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:14:21PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
> Will this process work on 32 bit jessie?
> and for the wimps among us, how does one get the old kernel back if the new
> version doesn't work?
> thanks
> tom Fowle


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Hello Greg,

Just a heads up.  I wanted to use a new install so that I could get back 
but the i386 stretch installers lost speech each time I attempted it so 
I abandoned that and used the am64 on another machine.

I have sent another message to the list regarding errors with make 
oldconfig.

I have reported the installer issue to debian accessibility.



On 13/04/17 03:47, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> It should work under 32-bit debian or devuan jessie. I plan to try
> this under that very environment soon, maybe even this weekend with a
> bns and dtlk. As for getting back to the old kernel, the easiest thing
> I can think of is to get familiar with your boot loaders menu, either
> that, or access grub2 with a serial console.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:14:21PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
>> Will this process work on 32 bit jessie?
>> and for the wimps among us, how does one get the old kernel back if the new
>> version doesn't work?
>> thanks
>> tom Fowle
>
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Tom Fowle]

Greg,
thanks, I'll await your test results.
tom Fowle

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:47:19PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> It should work under 32-bit debian or devuan jessie. I plan to try
> this under that very environment soon, maybe even this weekend with a
> bns and dtlk. As for getting back to the old kernel, the easiest thing
> I can think of is to get familiar with your boot loaders menu, either
> that, or access grub2 with a serial console.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:14:21PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
> > Will this process work on 32 bit jessie?
> > and for the wimps among us, how does one get the old kernel back if the new
> > version doesn't work?
> > thanks
> > tom Fowle
> 
> 
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Hi all,
I tried to build a kernel with Okash's speakup patches following the
instructions at:
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt>

I got the kernel source from the URL given in the instructions. I
extracted it, got rid of drivers/staging/speakup, and extracted
speakup.tgz in place of that, which gave me back
drivers/staging/speakup. I applied tty-export.patch with no errors,
getting exactly the output Okash gave in the instructions. I put a
.config into place in the linux source tree, and ran make oldconfig
accepting defaults for all new options.

I then ran make, which seemed to make it almost until the end, before
it came to a halt with this:

"
drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.c:25:87: fatal error: linux/sched/signal.h: No such file or directory
 #include <linux/sched/signal.h> /* schedule(), signal_pending(), TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE */
                                                                                       ^
compilation terminated.
scripts/Makefile.build:300: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o' failed
make[3]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o] Error 1
scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup' failed
make[2]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup] Error 2
scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging' failed
make[1]: *** [drivers/staging] Error 2
Makefile:988: recipe for target 'drivers' failed
make: *** [drivers] Error 2
"

I did some web searching, but couldn't find anything definite about
that particular header file, other than that it seems to be new in the
latest kernel, seemingly a replacement for sched.h. So, what is
supposed to generate that header file, or where am I supposed to get
it from please? This is on a devuan jessie 32-bit x86 system. Thanks.

Greg


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 09:07:23AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
> 
> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
> 
> Thanks,
> Okash


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Greg,

You're right. linux/sched/signal.h is part of a recent change and not
in stable 4.10.x. I will need to update staging.tgz. Will update here
once I've done that.

Thanks,
Okash

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I tried to build a kernel with Okash's speakup patches following the
> instructions at:
> <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt>
>
> I got the kernel source from the URL given in the instructions. I
> extracted it, got rid of drivers/staging/speakup, and extracted
> speakup.tgz in place of that, which gave me back
> drivers/staging/speakup. I applied tty-export.patch with no errors,
> getting exactly the output Okash gave in the instructions. I put a
> .config into place in the linux source tree, and ran make oldconfig
> accepting defaults for all new options.
>
> I then ran make, which seemed to make it almost until the end, before
> it came to a halt with this:
>
> "
> drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.c:25:87: fatal error: linux/sched/signal.h: No such file or directory
>  #include <linux/sched/signal.h> /* schedule(), signal_pending(), TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE */
>                                                                                        ^
> compilation terminated.
> scripts/Makefile.build:300: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o' failed
> make[3]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o] Error 1
> scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup' failed
> make[2]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup] Error 2
> scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging' failed
> make[1]: *** [drivers/staging] Error 2
> Makefile:988: recipe for target 'drivers' failed
> make: *** [drivers] Error 2
> "
>
> I did some web searching, but couldn't find anything definite about
> that particular header file, other than that it seems to be new in the
> latest kernel, seemingly a replacement for sched.h. So, what is
> supposed to generate that header file, or where am I supposed to get
> it from please? This is on a devuan jessie 32-bit x86 system. Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 09:07:23AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>>
>> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Okash
>
>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi,

I have updated the repository.
  > Now there is speakup2.tgz instead of speakup.tgz (to avoid
confusion between the two versions)
  > tty-export.patch includes ldisc related exports that were missed
out the first time round

Just to clarify, the problem is that kernel 4.11 that I developed
against has some issues with USB and therefore not best one to test
against at the moment. speakup.tgz I sent contained some code which
would only compile on 4.11 and that was the problem Greg pointed out.

I have now gone through the process on my system again and made sure
it compiles on 4.10.x and the above changes reflect that. So please
follow the steps from beginning with the updated tty-export.patch and
speakup2.tgz.

Okash

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> You're right. linux/sched/signal.h is part of a recent change and not
> in stable 4.10.x. I will need to update staging.tgz. Will update here
> once I've done that.
>
> Thanks,
> Okash
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I tried to build a kernel with Okash's speakup patches following the
>> instructions at:
>> <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt>
>>
>> I got the kernel source from the URL given in the instructions. I
>> extracted it, got rid of drivers/staging/speakup, and extracted
>> speakup.tgz in place of that, which gave me back
>> drivers/staging/speakup. I applied tty-export.patch with no errors,
>> getting exactly the output Okash gave in the instructions. I put a
>> .config into place in the linux source tree, and ran make oldconfig
>> accepting defaults for all new options.
>>
>> I then ran make, which seemed to make it almost until the end, before
>> it came to a halt with this:
>>
>> "
>> drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.c:25:87: fatal error: linux/sched/signal.h: No such file or directory
>>  #include <linux/sched/signal.h> /* schedule(), signal_pending(), TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE */
>>                                                                                        ^
>> compilation terminated.
>> scripts/Makefile.build:300: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o' failed
>> make[3]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o] Error 1
>> scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup' failed
>> make[2]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup] Error 2
>> scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging' failed
>> make[1]: *** [drivers/staging] Error 2
>> Makefile:988: recipe for target 'drivers' failed
>> make: *** [drivers] Error 2
>> "
>>
>> I did some web searching, but couldn't find anything definite about
>> that particular header file, other than that it seems to be new in the
>> latest kernel, seemingly a replacement for sched.h. So, what is
>> supposed to generate that header file, or where am I supposed to get
>> it from please? This is on a devuan jessie 32-bit x86 system. Thanks.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 09:07:23AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>>>
>>> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Okash
>>
>>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Ok, so I've built the new kernel. I have a braille 'n speak connected
to ttyS0. I'm wanting to try the on-board serial port first,
before I move to a usb to serial converter.

With only the speakup_main module loaded out of the speakup modules, I
type in:

modprobe speakup_bns ser=0 start=1

and get back:

modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_bns': No such device

The relevant dmesg output is:

"[   82.864734] speakup_bns: module is from the staging directory, the
quality is unknown, you have been warned.
[   82.865621] synth probe
[   82.865626] Ports not available, trying to steal them
[   82.865635] Unable to allocate port at 3f8, errno -16
[   82.865637] Braille 'N Speak: not found
[   82.865638] bns: device probe failed"

The modinfo output is:

"filename:
/lib/modules/4.10.9/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_bns.ko
version:        2.11
license:        GPL
description:    Speakup support for Braille 'n Speak synthesizers
author:         David Borowski
author:         Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
srcversion:     AD55A47746A5B337C0BBEEE
depends:        speakup
staging:        Y
intree:         Y
vermagic:       4.10.9 SMP mod_unload modversions 686
parm:           ser:Set the serial port for the synthesizer
(0-based). (int)
parm:           start:Start the synthesizer once it is
loaded. (short)"

I thought all the drivers were ported to use the new tty layer
support. Is this not the case?

Greg


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:48:42PM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have updated the repository.
>   > Now there is speakup2.tgz instead of speakup.tgz (to avoid
> confusion between the two versions)
>   > tty-export.patch includes ldisc related exports that were missed
> out the first time round
> 
> Just to clarify, the problem is that kernel 4.11 that I developed
> against has some issues with USB and therefore not best one to test
> against at the moment. speakup.tgz I sent contained some code which
> would only compile on 4.11 and that was the problem Greg pointed out.
> 
> I have now gone through the process on my system again and made sure
> it compiles on 4.10.x and the above changes reflect that. So please
> follow the steps from beginning with the updated tty-export.patch and
> speakup2.tgz.
> 
> Okash


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Greg,

Thanks very much. It looks like migration for bns got missed out. It
is not in the patch
http://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2017-April/060648.html. I
will fix that today and let you know. It won't require a full kernel
build this time. Just rebuild of speakup.

Okash

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Gregory Nowak <greg@gregn.net> wrote:
> Ok, so I've built the new kernel. I have a braille 'n speak connected
> to ttyS0. I'm wanting to try the on-board serial port first,
> before I move to a usb to serial converter.
>
> With only the speakup_main module loaded out of the speakup modules, I
> type in:
>
> modprobe speakup_bns ser=0 start=1
>
> and get back:
>
> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'speakup_bns': No such device
>
> The relevant dmesg output is:
>
> "[   82.864734] speakup_bns: module is from the staging directory, the
> quality is unknown, you have been warned.
> [   82.865621] synth probe
> [   82.865626] Ports not available, trying to steal them
> [   82.865635] Unable to allocate port at 3f8, errno -16
> [   82.865637] Braille 'N Speak: not found
> [   82.865638] bns: device probe failed"
>
> The modinfo output is:
>
> "filename:
> /lib/modules/4.10.9/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_bns.ko
> version:        2.11
> license:        GPL
> description:    Speakup support for Braille 'n Speak synthesizers
> author:         David Borowski
> author:         Kirk Reiser <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> srcversion:     AD55A47746A5B337C0BBEEE
> depends:        speakup
> staging:        Y
> intree:         Y
> vermagic:       4.10.9 SMP mod_unload modversions 686
> parm:           ser:Set the serial port for the synthesizer
> (0-based). (int)
> parm:           start:Start the synthesizer once it is
> loaded. (short)"
>
> I thought all the drivers were ported to use the new tty layer
> support. Is this not the case?
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:48:42PM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have updated the repository.
>>   > Now there is speakup2.tgz instead of speakup.tgz (to avoid
>> confusion between the two versions)
>>   > tty-export.patch includes ldisc related exports that were missed
>> out the first time round
>>
>> Just to clarify, the problem is that kernel 4.11 that I developed
>> against has some issues with USB and therefore not best one to test
>> against at the moment. speakup.tgz I sent contained some code which
>> would only compile on 4.11 and that was the problem Greg pointed out.
>>
>> I have now gone through the process on my system again and made sure
>> it compiles on 4.10.x and the above changes reflect that. So please
>> follow the steps from beginning with the updated tty-export.patch and
>> speakup2.tgz.
>>
>> Okash
>
>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Hello Greg,

As a point of interest, did the uname command in the instructions work 
for you?

I got a "no such file or directory" response and I had to copy the 
config manually from /boot.

I still have certificate errors but if you find it works, I will try 
jessie instead of stretch.



On 17/04/17 20:45, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Hi all,
> I tried to build a kernel with Okash's speakup patches following the
> instructions at:
> <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/master/decext-instructions.txt>
>
> I got the kernel source from the URL given in the instructions. I
> extracted it, got rid of drivers/staging/speakup, and extracted
> speakup.tgz in place of that, which gave me back
> drivers/staging/speakup. I applied tty-export.patch with no errors,
> getting exactly the output Okash gave in the instructions. I put a
> .config into place in the linux source tree, and ran make oldconfig
> accepting defaults for all new options.
>
> I then ran make, which seemed to make it almost until the end, before
> it came to a halt with this:
>
> "
> drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.c:25:87: fatal error: linux/sched/signal.h: No such file or directory
>  #include <linux/sched/signal.h> /* schedule(), signal_pending(), TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE */
>                                                                                        ^
> compilation terminated.
> scripts/Makefile.build:300: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o' failed
> make[3]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup/speakup_soft.o] Error 1
> scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging/speakup' failed
> make[2]: *** [drivers/staging/speakup] Error 2
> scripts/Makefile.build:553: recipe for target 'drivers/staging' failed
> make[1]: *** [drivers/staging] Error 2
> Makefile:988: recipe for target 'drivers' failed
> make: *** [drivers] Error 2
> "
>
> I did some web searching, but couldn't find anything definite about
> that particular header file, other than that it seems to be new in the
> latest kernel, seemingly a replacement for sched.h. So, what is
> supposed to generate that header file, or where am I supposed to get
> it from please? This is on a devuan jessie 32-bit x86 system. Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 09:07:23AM +0100, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Also, these steps can be used to test all the synths and not just decext. The speakup.tgz archive contains all the patches I last submitted.
>>
>> So please use these steps to test other synths too!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Okash
>
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Keith,
I didn't use the uname command in the instructions, I simply copied
the config file from /boot into the source tree by hand.

Greg


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:12:30PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
> Hello Greg,
> 
> As a point of interest, did the uname command in the instructions
> work for you?
> 
> I got a "no such file or directory" response and I had to copy the
> config manually from /boot.
> 
> I still have certificate errors but if you find it works, I will try
> jessie instead of stretch.


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

On 11/04/17 19:41, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
> following two files that I have shared:
>  - speakup.tgz:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>  - tty-export.patch:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>
> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
> a. download stable kernel source from
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>
> 2. Apply patches:
> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
> (output of above should be following three lines:
> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>
> 3. Configure:
> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
This resaults in a no such file or directory prompt.
I found /boot/config-4.9.0-2-amd64 and copied it.

>


  (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
> d. update the config: make oldconfig

HOSTCC
scripts/basic/fisdep
bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
scripts/Makefile.host:107: recipe for target scripts /basic/fisdep failed
script-basic error 2

I did a clean install of debian am64 for the test, using the latest 
release candidate.


> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
> each by pressing enter)
> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
> e. that's it, kernel configured!
>
> 4. Compile and install:
> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>  following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
> system. but it may
> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
> an hour or may be more)
> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
> (this should return zero)
> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
> (again this may take a little while)
> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>
> 5. Reboot and test decext:
> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>
> Thanks!
> Okash
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
>> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
>> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Okash
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

> On 13 Apr 2017, at 14:27, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> 3. Configure:
>> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
>> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
> This resaults in a no such file or directory prompt.
> I found /boot/config-4.9.0-2-amd64 and copied it.
Right that's correct too. Usually Debian names config files like that and puts them in /boot but may be not in this case. Either way, as you've found, the aim is to get hold for current config and using it as base for  compiling the kernel.

> 
> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>> d. update the config: make oldconfig
> 
> HOSTCC
> scripts/basic/fisdep
> bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
> scripts/Makefile.host:107: recipe for target scripts /basic/fisdep failed
> script-basic error 2
Looks like gcc is not installed?

> 
> I did a clean install of debian am64 for the test, using the latest release candidate.

As a general note for steps 3 and 4, they are steps for compiling kernel, so other resources online will also apply. 

Cheers,
Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Hi,

Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid certificates.

Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when 
running make.

Will try again in the morning but think I may need to start again.

Would be interested to know if any one on here is having better luck.



On 13/04/17 15:28, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 14:27, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> 3. Configure:
>>> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
>>> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>> This resaults in a no such file or directory prompt.
>> I found /boot/config-4.9.0-2-amd64 and copied it.
> Right that's correct too. Usually Debian names config files like that and puts them in /boot but may be not in this case. Either way, as you've found, the aim is to get hold for current config and using it as base for  compiling the kernel.
>
>>
>> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>>> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>>> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>>> d. update the config: make oldconfig
>>
>> HOSTCC
>> scripts/basic/fisdep
>> bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
>> scripts/Makefile.host:107: recipe for target scripts /basic/fisdep failed
>> script-basic error 2
> Looks like gcc is not installed?
>
>>
>> I did a clean install of debian am64 for the test, using the latest release candidate.
>
> As a general note for steps 3 and 4, they are steps for compiling kernel, so other resources online will also apply.
>
> Cheers,
> Okash
> _______________________________________________
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> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

Just a guess, do you have ca-certificates installed?

Greg


On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid certificates.
> 
> Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when
> running make.


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Thanks for the thought but yes, it is there.


On 14/04/17 05:37, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Just a guess, do you have ca-certificates installed?
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid certificates.
>>
>> Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when
>> running make.
>
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

Sorry I haven't come across certificate problems when running make. Are they warnings or do they result in failure of make?

Can you paste in certificate complaints? I may be able to help then. Just to be sure, is this make oldconfig command or just the make command?

The patch shouldn't cause those warnings. 

Thanks,
Okash

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 12:21, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the thought but yes, it is there.
> 
> 
>> On 14/04/17 05:37, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>> Just a guess, do you have ca-certificates installed?
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid certificates.
>>> 
>>> Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when
>>> running make.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

On 14/04/17 13:56, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> Sorry I haven't come across certificate problems when running make. Are they warnings or do they result in failure of make?
They result in failure.

>
> Can you paste in certificate complaints? I may be able to help then. Just to be sure, is this make oldconfig command or just the make command?
Just make.

I am starting again now as I have followed a combination of your 
instructions and an on line guide so will report back with the errors.




>
> The patch shouldn't cause those warnings.
>
> Thanks,
> Okash
>
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 12:21, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the thought but yes, it is there.
>>
>>
>>> On 14/04/17 05:37, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>>> Just a guess, do you have ca-certificates installed?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid certificates.
>>>>
>>>> Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when
>>>> running make.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

On 14/04/17 16:34, Keith Barrett wrote:
>
>
> On 14/04/17 13:56, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Sorry I haven't come across certificate problems when running make.
>> Are they warnings or do they result in failure of make?
> They result in failure.
>
>>
>> Can you paste in certificate complaints? I may be able to help then.
>> Just to be sure, is this make oldconfig command or just the make command?
> Just make.

certs/system_keyring.o (make)1 *** No Rule to make target 
'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by 
certs/si09-certificate_list.
makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.


>
> I am starting again now as I have followed a combination of your
> instructions and an on line guide so will report back with the errors.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> The patch shouldn't cause those warnings.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Okash
>>
>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 12:21, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the thought but yes, it is there.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 14/04/17 05:37, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>>>> Just a guess, do you have ca-certificates installed?
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid
>>>>> certificates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when
>>>>> running make.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

Found this by searching the error online:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error

Here's the reply from that link:

"I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."

There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107



Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this. 

Hope that helps.

Okash 

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14/04/17 16:34, Keith Barrett wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14/04/17 13:56, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>> 
>>> Sorry I haven't come across certificate problems when running make.
>>> Are they warnings or do they result in failure of make?
>> They result in failure.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you paste in certificate complaints? I may be able to help then.
>>> Just to be sure, is this make oldconfig command or just the make command?
>> Just make.
> 
> certs/system_keyring.o (make)1 *** No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by certs/si09-certificate_list.
> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.
> 
> 
>> 
>> I am starting again now as I have followed a combination of your
>> instructions and an on line guide so will report back with the errors.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> The patch shouldn't cause those warnings.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Okash
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 12:21, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the thought but yes, it is there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14/04/17 05:37, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>>>>> Just a guess, do you have ca-certificates installed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Following an online guide, I am getting complaints of invalid
>>>>>> certificates.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could this be because of the patching?  I only discovered this when
>>>>>> running make.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by certs/si09-certificate_list.
> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.

Found this by searching the error online:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error

Here's the reply from that link:

"I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."

There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107



Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this. 

Hope that helps.

Okash 

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Hi Okash,

I commented out the two entries and now we get:-

certs/system_keyring/o make[1] no rule to make target 
'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by 
'certs/si09_certificate_list' stop recipe for target failed'



On 15/04/17 07:35, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by certs/si09-certificate_list.
>> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.
>
> Found this by searching the error online:
>
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error
>
> Here's the reply from that link:
>
> "I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."
>
> There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107
>
>
>
> Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Okash
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

This might be because the existing config is too old for 4.10 kernel.
I wouldn't know the solution without trying it out. From one of the
links I posted above, they removed following in 4.5 kernel:

CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY
CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS

So it might be worth removing all three of them and then trying.

Cheers,
Okash


On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Keith Barrett
<lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Okash,
>
> I commented out the two entries and now we get:-
>
> certs/system_keyring/o make[1] no rule to make target
> 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
> 'certs/si09_certificate_list' stop recipe for target failed'
>
>
>
>
> On 15/04/17 07:35, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>>>> certs/si09-certificate_list.
>>>
>>> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.
>>
>>
>> Found this by searching the error online:
>>
>>
>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error
>>
>> Here's the reply from that link:
>>
>> "I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file
>> you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines
>> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."
>>
>> There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Okash
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Hi Okash,

What system are you using for your tests?

I was using stretch am64 rc3 but as the machine is not being used for 
anything else, I could get something else on it for testing.


On 17/04/17 22:57, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> This might be because the existing config is too old for 4.10 kernel.
> I wouldn't know the solution without trying it out. From one of the
> links I posted above, they removed following in 4.5 kernel:
>
> CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL
> CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY
> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS
>
> So it might be worth removing all three of them and then trying.
>
> Cheers,
> Okash
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Keith Barrett
> <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Okash,
>>
>> I commented out the two entries and now we get:-
>>
>> certs/system_keyring/o make[1] no rule to make target
>> 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>> 'certs/si09_certificate_list' stop recipe for target failed'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15/04/17 07:35, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>>>>> certs/si09-certificate_list.
>>>>
>>>> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.
>>>
>>>
>>> Found this by searching the error online:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error
>>>
>>> Here's the reply from that link:
>>>
>>> "I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file
>>> you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines
>>> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."
>>>
>>> There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Okash
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

I'm using arch linux which keeps it's kernels fairly up to date.

If the kernel version isn't too old, i.e. 4.5 or later then that should be fine. Still I think it will be worth commenting out all three config options on your system and then trying.

Cheers,
Okash

> On 17 Apr 2017, at 23:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Okash,
> 
> What system are you using for your tests?
> 
> I was using stretch am64 rc3 but as the machine is not being used for anything else, I could get something else on it for testing.
> 
> 
>> On 17/04/17 22:57, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>> This might be because the existing config is too old for 4.10 kernel.
>> I wouldn't know the solution without trying it out. From one of the
>> links I posted above, they removed following in 4.5 kernel:
>> 
>> CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL
>> CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY
>> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS
>> 
>> So it might be worth removing all three of them and then trying.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Okash
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Keith Barrett
>> <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi Okash,
>>> 
>>> I commented out the two entries and now we get:-
>>> 
>>> certs/system_keyring/o make[1] no rule to make target
>>> 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>>> 'certs/si09_certificate_list' stop recipe for target failed'
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 15/04/17 07:35, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>>>>>> certs/si09-certificate_list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Found this by searching the error online:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error
>>>> 
>>>> Here's the reply from that link:
>>>> 
>>>> "I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file
>>>> you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines
>>>> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."
>>>> 
>>>> There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Okash
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
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>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Keith Barrett]

Hello Okash,

I have tried removing all 3 options and various combinations of them and 
still no joy.

Not sure what else I can do now.

The old kernel is 4-9.x.  I did a fresh install of stretch rc3 am64, if 
any one would like to reproduce the sympton.



Think I will wait and see if any one else gets this working as I need to 
do some work now.



On 18/04/17 00:01, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> I'm using arch linux which keeps it's kernels fairly up to date.
>
> If the kernel version isn't too old, i.e. 4.5 or later then that should be fine. Still I think it will be worth commenting out all three config options on your system and then trying.
>
> Cheers,
> Okash
>
>> On 17 Apr 2017, at 23:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Okash,
>>
>> What system are you using for your tests?
>>
>> I was using stretch am64 rc3 but as the machine is not being used for anything else, I could get something else on it for testing.
>>
>>
>>> On 17/04/17 22:57, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> This might be because the existing config is too old for 4.10 kernel.
>>> I wouldn't know the solution without trying it out. From one of the
>>> links I posted above, they removed following in 4.5 kernel:
>>>
>>> CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_ALL
>>> CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY
>>> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS
>>>
>>> So it might be worth removing all three of them and then trying.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Okash
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Keith Barrett
>>> <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi Okash,
>>>>
>>>> I commented out the two entries and now we get:-
>>>>
>>>> certs/system_keyring/o make[1] no rule to make target
>>>> 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>>>> 'certs/si09_certificate_list' stop recipe for target failed'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/04/17 07:35, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:28, Keith Barrett <lists@barrettpianos.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No Rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pen' needed by
>>>>>>> certs/si09-certificate_list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> makefile 988: recipe for target 'certs' failed  make certs error 2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Found this by searching the error online:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293642/attempting-to-compile-any-kernel-yields-a-certification-error
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the reply from that link:
>>>>>
>>>>> "I ran into this several years ago on a Debian build. In the .config file
>>>>> you copied from /boot find and comment out the lines
>>>>> CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEY and CONFIG_MODULE_SIG_KEY."
>>>>>
>>>>> There's also https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823107
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically make oldconfig should have taken care of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okash
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Keith,

Kernel compile _is_ a bottleneck in this process, so thanks for trying!

Hopefully tests in future won't involve it.

Cheers,
Okash

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:58:11PM +0100, Keith Barrett wrote:
> Hello Okash,
> 
> I have tried removing all 3 options and various combinations of them and
> still no joy.
> 
> Not sure what else I can do now.
> 
> The old kernel is 4-9.x.  I did a fresh install of stretch rc3 am64, if any
> one would like to reproduce the sympton.
> 
> 
> 
> Think I will wait and see if any one else gets this working as I need to do
> some work now.
> 

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

OK, so I use gentoo, so I built a 4.9.24 kernel, put in your
speakup2.tgz, the ttyexport.patch, and compiled with no problems.  I
rebooted and got speech, using spkout which I have built into the
kernel.  That is the good news.

There are some major problems, however.  If there is a lot of output,
it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds or more to shut up when I hit
the enter key on the numpad.  Now speakup uses rts-cts handshake, so I
wonder if things are working.  The other major problem is that
speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
wonder if the input functions are working.

All in all, this is great for a first test, keep up the good work.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:41:51 -0400,
Okash Khawaja wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
> following two files that I have shared:
>  - speakup.tgz:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>  - tty-export.patch:
> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
> 
> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
> a. download stable kernel source from
> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
> 
> 2. Apply patches:
> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
> (output of above should be following three lines:
> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
> 
> 3. Configure:
> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
> d. update the config: make oldconfig
> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
> each by pressing enter)
> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
> e. that's it, kernel configured!
> 
> 4. Compile and install:
> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>  following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
> system. but it may
> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
> an hour or may be more)
> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
> (this should return zero)
> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
> (again this may take a little while)
> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
> 
> 5. Reboot and test decext:
> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
> 
> Thanks!
> Okash
> 
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
> > which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
> > changes are okay, do give a shout.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Okash
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi John,

Thanks for this. I'll look into the issues once I get home. I'm assuming these are all new problems specific to the speakup2.tgz

Okash

> On 30 Apr 2017, at 09:18, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, so I use gentoo, so I built a 4.9.24 kernel, put in your
> speakup2.tgz, the ttyexport.patch, and compiled with no problems.  I
> rebooted and got speech, using spkout which I have built into the
> kernel.  That is the good news.
> 
> There are some major problems, however.  If there is a lot of output,
> it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds or more to shut up when I hit
> the enter key on the numpad.  Now speakup uses rts-cts handshake, so I
> wonder if things are working.  The other major problem is that
> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> wonder if the input functions are working.
> 
> All in all, this is great for a first test, keep up the good work.
> 
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 14:41:51 -0400,
> Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here are the steps in detail. Before starting this, please download
>> following two files that I have shared:
>> - speakup.tgz:
>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/speakup.tgz
>> - tty-export.patch:
>> https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext/raw/master/tty-export.patch
>> 
>> 1. Download Linux kernel code:
>> a. download stable kernel source from
>> https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>> b. extract the archive by running: tar xvfJ linux-4.10.9.tar.xz
>> 
>> 2. Apply patches:
>> a. cd into the extracted linux source code: cd linux-4.10.9
>> b. remove speakup directory: rm -r drivers/staging/speakup
>> c. copy the speakup.tgz file into drivers/staging: cp
>> path/to/speakup.tgz drivers/staging/
>> d. cd into staging directory: cd drivers/staging
>> e. extractspeakup.tgz: tar xvfz speakup.tgz
>> (now there should be a speakup directory inside drivers/staging)
>> f. cd back to the root of kernel source (i.e. linux-4.10.9) : cd ../..
>> g. apply the tty patch: patch -p1 < path/to/tty-export.patch
>> (output of above should be following three lines:
>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_io.c
>> patching file drivers/tty/tty_port.c
>> patching file include/linux/tty.h)
>> (if you don't already have 'patch' program then you can download it
>> from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/patch/)
>> h. now we have the code ready for configuring and compiling!
>> 
>> 3. Configure:
>> a. make sure you are inside kernel source root directory, i.e. linux-4.10.9
>> b. make sure that existing kernel config exists: ls /boot/config-$(uname -r)
>> (this should return just one file named config-<your-kernel-version>)
>> c. copy that file into your kernel source root directory: cp
>> /boot/config-$(uname -r) ./.config
>> d. update the config: make oldconfig
>> (this will ask you many questions. just select the default option for
>> each by pressing enter)
>> e. check to make sure that speakup is configured the way you wanted
>> it: cat .config | grep SPEAKUP
>> e. that's it, kernel configured!
>> 
>> 4. Compile and install:
>> (IMPORTANT: for this please check an online guide specific for your distro.
>> following instructions that i think should work on Debian based
>> system. but it may
>> a. still stayin inside linux-4.10.9, compile by simply running: make
>> (this will take a while. depending on the hardware specs, it may take
>> an hour or may be more)
>> b. after make completes, check it succeeded: echo $?
>> (this should return zero)
>> c. now run: sudo make modules_install
>> (again this may take a little while)
>> d. now install kernel which should be quick: sudo make install
>> (NOTE: this means that on next reboot your newly compiled kernel will load)
>> (Depending on your distro, it should back up previous kernel)
>> 
>> 5. Reboot and test decext:
>> a. now running reboot should boot the compiled kernel
>> b. if speakup configuration was same as before, then you should be
>> able to test it with decext the same way as before.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Okash
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As part of recent changes, there are some that affect DecTalk External
>>> which uses speakup_decext.ko. If someone can help in making sure those
>>> changes are okay, do give a shout.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> Okash
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi all and John,

I haven't spent much time on user side of speakup, so bear with me as I
try to investigate this.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:18:12AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> There are some major problems, however.  If there is a lot of output,
> it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds or more to shut up when I hit
> the enter key on the numpad.
As I understand it, hitting numpad enter causes spk_shut_up to be set so that
further writes to synth_buffer don't happen and spk_do_flush is called
to ensure that synth_buffer is cleared. Is that correct?

Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

If I may jump in here ... When using the bns, I have to issue the
silence command (numpad-enter) once if speaking a single line, twice
if speaking a large block of text. I have had to do this since I can
remember, certainly a number of years before Okash's patches. Using
read to end is something I didn't test until John mentioned it. When I
do speakup+r, I just get a beep from my pc speaker, and nothing
else. I've looked through the speakup help provided by speakup+f1, and
don't see an option for read to end. I'm using the kernel I reported
my recent tests with using Okash's speakup patches. I also am inside a
text editor where I can use the arrow keys to move around.

Greg


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:18:12AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> OK, so I use gentoo, so I built a 4.9.24 kernel, put in your
> speakup2.tgz, the ttyexport.patch, and compiled with no problems.  I
> rebooted and got speech, using spkout which I have built into the
> kernel.  That is the good news.
> 
> There are some major problems, however.  If there is a lot of output,
> it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds or more to shut up when I hit
> the enter key on the numpad.  Now speakup uses rts-cts handshake, so I
> wonder if things are working.  The other major problem is that
> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> wonder if the input functions are working.
> 
> All in all, this is great for a first test, keep up the good work.
> 


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

Does the bns even support indexing?  This is why read to end may not
work.  In regular speakup and also Dave's version, I get an immediate
shutup when I press the enter on the numpad.

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:42:21 -0400,
Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> If I may jump in here ... When using the bns, I have to issue the
> silence command (numpad-enter) once if speaking a single line, twice
> if speaking a large block of text. I have had to do this since I can
> remember, certainly a number of years before Okash's patches. Using
> read to end is something I didn't test until John mentioned it. When I
> do speakup+r, I just get a beep from my pc speaker, and nothing
> else. I've looked through the speakup help provided by speakup+f1, and
> don't see an option for read to end. I'm using the kernel I reported
> my recent tests with using Okash's speakup patches. I also am inside a
> text editor where I can use the arrow keys to move around.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:18:12AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> > OK, so I use gentoo, so I built a 4.9.24 kernel, put in your
> > speakup2.tgz, the ttyexport.patch, and compiled with no problems.  I
> > rebooted and got speech, using spkout which I have built into the
> > kernel.  That is the good news.
> > 
> > There are some major problems, however.  If there is a lot of output,
> > it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds or more to shut up when I hit
> > the enter key on the numpad.  Now speakup uses rts-cts handshake, so I
> > wonder if things are working.  The other major problem is that
> > speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> > stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> > wonder if the input functions are working.
> > 
> > All in all, this is great for a first test, keep up the good work.
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Gregory Nowak]

I checked the bns user's manual just now to be sure, and yes, the bns does
support indexing. According to the manual, sending a ctrl+f to the bns
is the index marker, ctrl+x is supposed to silence speech.

Greg


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 11:57:01PM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> Does the bns even support indexing?  This is why read to end may not
> work.  In regular speakup and also Dave's version, I get an immediate
> shutup when I press the enter on the numpad.


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Samuel Thibault]

Gregory Nowak, on dim. 30 avril 2017 21:34:29 -0700, wrote:
> I checked the bns user's manual just now to be sure, and yes, the bns does
> support indexing. According to the manual, sending a ctrl+f to the bns
> is the index marker, ctrl+x is supposed to silence speech.

I believe you are not talking about the same kind of "indexing". John
talks about the device being able to report to the computer which word
the speech is currently speaking, so the computer can know the progress
of the speech.

Samuel

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Gregory Nowak, on dim. 30 avril 2017 17:42:21 -0700, wrote:
> If I may jump in here ... When using the bns, I have to issue the
> silence command (numpad-enter) once if speaking a single line, twice
> if speaking a large block of text. I have had to do this since I can
> remember, certainly a number of years before Okash's patches.

Then please do not jump in the thread :)

It's already difficult for Okash to make sure that his tty patches don't
bring regression.  Please do not bring in here bugs which have been
happening for years before it.

Of course, you are welcome to report the bugs, and they should be
tracked and fixed.  But do not throw them within a thread which already
has its load of potential for bugs, because that'd make the tty
migration way harder if Okash has to sort by himself what is a
regression from his patches and what is an already-existing bug.

Samuel

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> wonder if the input functions are working.

Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
tty-based functions?

Samuel

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
Samuel Thibault wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> > speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> > stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> > wonder if the input functions are working.
> 
> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
> tty-based functions?
Yes.


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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi,

I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 

Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext

Thanks,
Okash

> On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
> Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
>>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
>>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
>>> wonder if the input functions are working.
>> 
>> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
>> tty-based functions?
> Yes.
> 
> 
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Tony Baechler]

Hi,

This latest patch won't compile on kernel 4.10.7. The previous patches have 
compiled fine until the latest git pull. I put the complete build log 
online. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, but I'm passing -j8 to make 
if it matters. Please let me know if you want me to try anything else. The 
log can be found here:

http://batsupport.com/log.gz

On 5/8/2017 4:43 AM, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch.
>
> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
>
> Thanks,
> Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi Tony,

Thanks for this. It's fixed now and compiling.

Cheers!
Okash

> On 10 May 2017, at 10:19, Tony Baechler <tony@baechler.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This latest patch won't compile on kernel 4.10.7. The previous patches have compiled fine until the latest git pull. I put the complete build log online. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, but I'm passing -j8 to make if it matters. Please let me know if you want me to try anything else. The log can be found here:
> 
> http://batsupport.com/log.gz
> 
>> On 5/8/2017 4:43 AM, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch.
>> 
>> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Okash
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Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
that.

Thanks and keep up the good work.

On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
Okash Khawaja wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
> 
> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
> 
> Thanks,
> Okash
> 
> > On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
> > Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> >>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> >>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> >>> wonder if the input functions are working.
> >> 
> >> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
> >> tty-based functions?
> > Yes.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >         John Covici
> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi John,

Thanks for the feedback, that's good to know. I'll look into speakup-r
issue.

Cheers,
Okash


On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:49:13AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
> its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
> speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
> lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
> that.
> 
> Thanks and keep up the good work.
> 
> On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
> Okash Khawaja wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
> > 
> > Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Okash
> > 
> > > On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
> > > Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> Hello,
> > >> 
> > >> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> > >>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> > >>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> > >>> wonder if the input functions are working.
> > >> 
> > >> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
> > >> tty-based functions?
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > > How do
> > > you spend it?
> > > 
> > >         John Covici
> > >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>          John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

Hi.  Well, the speakup-r functionality is working much better now --
that is great.  I am now using this as my regular speakup for the time
being.

Now, if we could get Dav Borowski's patches with this i/o, we would
really have something!!  He has some really nice modsto speakup which
I have been testing for a while now.

Thanks Okash.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:10:15 -0400,
Okash Khawaja wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback, that's good to know. I'll look into speakup-r
> issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> Okash
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:49:13AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> > Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
> > its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
> > speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
> > lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
> > that.
> > 
> > Thanks and keep up the good work.
> > 
> > On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
> > Okash Khawaja wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
> > > 
> > > Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Okash
> > > 
> > > > On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
> > > > Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >> 
> > > >> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> > > >>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> > > >>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> > > >>> wonder if the input functions are working.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
> > > >> tty-based functions?
> > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > > > How do
> > > > you spend it?
> > > > 
> > > >         John Covici
> > > >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> > > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >          John Covici
> >          covici@ccs.covici.com

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Frost]

	Hello,

	For some reason I'm no longer able to post to the SpeakUp 
mailing list again, so thought I'd ask individuals.  You wouldn't happen 
to know what to write at the Debian Jessie installation boot prompt to 
get both the LiteTalk (LTLK) and the software (SOFT) voice synthesizers 
working with the talkwith script?  Nothing I seem to type at the boot 
prompt seems to work unless I accept the default software synthesizer.  
I'm not at all sure what to put in /etc/modules or modules.conf to 
configure Debian for both synthesizers, and I'm not getting through to 
the mailing list again to ask.  I thought I'd ask you, as you seem to be 
discussing the more technical aspects of the SpeakUp module and would 
likely have an answer.  I'd appreciate the help, as Debian's accessible 
installer also defaults to DHCP for the network configuration, rather 
than also allowing a static IP setup. <laughs> I hope you can assist. --


			Best regards,
				Michael Ferranti

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Zachary Kline]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this post did show up on the list :-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Frost <znvyyvfgf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>    Hello,
> 
>    For some reason I'm no longer able to post to the SpeakUp 
> mailing list again, so thought I'd ask individuals.  You wouldn't happen 
> to know what to write at the Debian Jessie installation boot prompt to 
> get both the LiteTalk (LTLK) and the software (SOFT) voice synthesizers 
> working with the talkwith script?  Nothing I seem to type at the boot 
> prompt seems to work unless I accept the default software synthesizer.  
> I'm not at all sure what to put in /etc/modules or modules.conf to 
> configure Debian for both synthesizers, and I'm not getting through to 
> the mailing list again to ask.  I thought I'd ask you, as you seem to be 
> discussing the more technical aspects of the SpeakUp module and would 
> likely have an answer.  I'd appreciate the help, as Debian's accessible 
> installer also defaults to DHCP for the network configuration, rather 
> than also allowing a static IP setup. <laughs> I hope you can assist. --
> 
> 
>            Best regards,
>                Michael Ferranti
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi John,

Thanks very much for your tests and feedback. Sure it will be great to have the features you mentioned and have it all mainlined.

Cheers,
Okash

> On 4 Jun 2017, at 13:34, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Well, the speakup-r functionality is working much better now --
> that is great.  I am now using this as my regular speakup for the time
> being.
> 
> Now, if we could get Dav Borowski's patches with this i/o, we would
> really have something!!  He has some really nice modsto speakup which
> I have been testing for a while now.
> 
> Thanks Okash.
> 
> On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:10:15 -0400,
> Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback, that's good to know. I'll look into speakup-r
>> issue.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Okash
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:49:13AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
>>> Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
>>> its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
>>> speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
>>> lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and keep up the good work.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
>>> Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
>>>> 
>>>> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Okash
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
>>>>> Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
>>>>>>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
>>>>>>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
>>>>>>> wonder if the input functions are working.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
>>>>>> tty-based functions?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>>>> How do
>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>> 
>>>>>        John Covici
>>>>>        covici@ccs.covici.com
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>> How do
>>> you spend it?
>>> 
>>>         John Covici
>>>         covici@ccs.covici.com
> 
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>         John Covici
>         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

Now there is a bug  in the speakup-r which  was there in the old
version, but if you or someone could fix, it would make things more
stable.  If you start the speakup-r from a blank line, it crashes the
system, cold, no logs or anything.  Try it and you will see.

On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:51:31 -0400,
Okash Khawaja wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Thanks very much for your tests and feedback. Sure it will be great to have the features you mentioned and have it all mainlined.
> 
> Cheers,
> Okash
> 
> > On 4 Jun 2017, at 13:34, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi.  Well, the speakup-r functionality is working much better now --
> > that is great.  I am now using this as my regular speakup for the time
> > being.
> > 
> > Now, if we could get Dav Borowski's patches with this i/o, we would
> > really have something!!  He has some really nice modsto speakup which
> > I have been testing for a while now.
> > 
> > Thanks Okash.
> > 
> > On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:10:15 -0400,
> > Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi John,
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the feedback, that's good to know. I'll look into speakup-r
> >> issue.
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Okash
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:49:13AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> >>> Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
> >>> its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
> >>> speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
> >>> lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
> >>> that.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks and keep up the good work.
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
> >>> Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Okash
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
> >>>>> Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> >>>>>>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> >>>>>>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> >>>>>>> wonder if the input functions are working.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
> >>>>>> tty-based functions?
> >>>>> Yes.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -- 
> >>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>>>> How do
> >>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>        John Covici
> >>>>>        covici@ccs.covici.com
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Speakup mailing list
> >>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>> How do
> >>> you spend it?
> >>> 
> >>>         John Covici
> >>>         covici@ccs.covici.com
> > 
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >         John Covici
> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Interesting. Will take a look once done with supporting more than ttyS. 

Which synth is it? I can't find the email where you mentioned the synth you're using. 

Thanks,
Okash

> On 4 Jun 2017, at 20:46, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> 
> Now there is a bug  in the speakup-r which  was there in the old
> version, but if you or someone could fix, it would make things more
> stable.  If you start the speakup-r from a blank line, it crashes the
> system, cold, no logs or anything.  Try it and you will see.
> 
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:51:31 -0400,
> Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Thanks very much for your tests and feedback. Sure it will be great to have the features you mentioned and have it all mainlined.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Okash
>> 
>>> On 4 Jun 2017, at 13:34, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.  Well, the speakup-r functionality is working much better now --
>>> that is great.  I am now using this as my regular speakup for the time
>>> being.
>>> 
>>> Now, if we could get Dav Borowski's patches with this i/o, we would
>>> really have something!!  He has some really nice modsto speakup which
>>> I have been testing for a while now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Okash.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:10:15 -0400,
>>> Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the feedback, that's good to know. I'll look into speakup-r
>>>> issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Okash
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:49:13AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
>>>>> Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
>>>>> its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
>>>>> speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
>>>>> lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
>>>>> that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks and keep up the good work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
>>>>> Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Okash
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
>>>>>>> Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
>>>>>>>>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
>>>>>>>>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
>>>>>>>>> wonder if the input functions are working.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
>>>>>>>> tty-based functions?
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>>>>>> How do
>>>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>       John Covici
>>>>>>>       covici@ccs.covici.com
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
>>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>>>> How do
>>>>> you spend it?
>>>>> 
>>>>>        John Covici
>>>>>        covici@ccs.covici.com
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>>> How do
>>> you spend it?
>>> 
>>>        John Covici
>>>        covici@ccs.covici.com
> 
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>         John Covici
>         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[John Covici]

Its speakout, but this bug happens with any synth, I am pretty sure
including soft synth using speechd-up.

On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:32:31 -0400,
Okash Khawaja wrote:
> 
> Interesting. Will take a look once done with supporting more than ttyS. 
> 
> Which synth is it? I can't find the email where you mentioned the synth you're using. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Okash
> 
> > On 4 Jun 2017, at 20:46, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Now there is a bug  in the speakup-r which  was there in the old
> > version, but if you or someone could fix, it would make things more
> > stable.  If you start the speakup-r from a blank line, it crashes the
> > system, cold, no logs or anything.  Try it and you will see.
> > 
> > On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 14:51:31 -0400,
> > Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi John,
> >> 
> >> Thanks very much for your tests and feedback. Sure it will be great to have the features you mentioned and have it all mainlined.
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Okash
> >> 
> >>> On 4 Jun 2017, at 13:34, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi.  Well, the speakup-r functionality is working much better now --
> >>> that is great.  I am now using this as my regular speakup for the time
> >>> being.
> >>> 
> >>> Now, if we could get Dav Borowski's patches with this i/o, we would
> >>> really have something!!  He has some really nice modsto speakup which
> >>> I have been testing for a while now.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks Okash.
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, 15 May 2017 13:10:15 -0400,
> >>> Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi John,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the feedback, that's good to know. I'll look into speakup-r
> >>>> issue.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Okash
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 05:49:13AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> >>>>> Well, we have progress, not quite there yet.  Now, speakup shuts up as
> >>>>> its supposed to when I hit the enter key on the numpad, but the
> >>>>> speakup-r command still does not stop at the cursor -- its about 20
> >>>>> lines below where it should be.  I did not test further than checking
> >>>>> that.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks and keep up the good work.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Mon, 08 May 2017 07:43:06 -0400,
> >>>>> Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I have updated speakup2.tgz so that it ensures hardware flow control is enabled, which is the latest patch. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Please download it from https://github.com/bytefire/speakup-decext
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Okash
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 23:06, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 01 May 2017 05:21:47 -0400,
> >>>>>>> Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> speakup-r is not working properly, it just reads along and when I
> >>>>>>>>> stop, the cursor is many lines down from where speech stops -- I
> >>>>>>>>> wonder if the input functions are working.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Just to make sure: was it working properly just before the switch to
> >>>>>>>> tty-based functions?
> >>>>>>> Yes.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>>>>>> How do
> >>>>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>       John Covici
> >>>>>>>       covici@ccs.covici.com
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Speakup mailing list
> >>>>>>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> >>>>>>> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -- 
> >>>>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>>>> How do
> >>>>> you spend it?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>        John Covici
> >>>>>        covici@ccs.covici.com
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >>> How do
> >>> you spend it?
> >>> 
> >>>        John Covici
> >>>        covici@ccs.covici.com
> > 
> > -- 
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> > 
> >         John Covici
> >         covici@ccs.covici.com
> 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> If there is a lot of output, it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds
> or more to shut up when I hit the enter key on the numpad.

Okash, this may be related with the serial port layer buffering data. I
realize that we haven't made the synth_flush functions call the
flush_buffer tty ops. We need to do so, otherwise even if we send the
clear character, that's only after the processing of pending data.

So in the synth_flush functions, one needs to first call flush_buffer()
and then send the clear character.

Yes, flush_buffer is yet another method to be added to the spk_io_ops
structure. In the serialio case, you can just let it do nothing. One
could want to flush the UART 16550 buffer but that's not the point of
your patch anyway :)

Samuel

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Samuel Thibault]

Samuel Thibault, on lun. 01 mai 2017 11:31:57 +0200, wrote:
> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> > If there is a lot of output, it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds
> > or more to shut up when I hit the enter key on the numpad.
> 
> Okash, this may be related with the serial port layer buffering data.

That actually might be also related with the other, indexing, issue
reported by John.

Samuel

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Okash Khawaja]

Hi,

On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:31:57AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> > If there is a lot of output, it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds
> > or more to shut up when I hit the enter key on the numpad.
> 
> Okash, this may be related with the serial port layer buffering data.
Right, that would explain it but I thought send_xchar would prioritise
SYNTH_CLEAR over buffered data.
> I
> realize that we haven't made the synth_flush functions call the
> flush_buffer tty ops. We need to do so, otherwise even if we send the
> clear character, that's only after the processing of pending data.
> 
> So in the synth_flush functions, one needs to first call flush_buffer()
> and then send the clear character.
> 
> Yes, flush_buffer is yet another method to be added to the spk_io_ops
> structure.
Cool, I'll make the changes and share them here as a patch.

> In the serialio case, you can just let it do nothing. One
> could want to flush the UART 16550 buffer but that's not the point of
> your patch anyway :)
Sure, may be something to keep in mind for later.

Thanks,
Okash

Re: DecTalk External (decext) testers wanted!

[Samuel Thibault]

Okash Khawaja, on lun. 01 mai 2017 16:59:33 +0100, wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:31:57AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > John Covici, on dim. 30 avril 2017 04:18:12 -0400, wrote:
> > > If there is a lot of output, it takes a very long time -- 30 seconds
> > > or more to shut up when I hit the enter key on the numpad.
> > 
> > Okash, this may be related with the serial port layer buffering data.
> Right, that would explain it but I thought send_xchar would prioritise
> SYNTH_CLEAR over buffered data.

I guess so, yes, but then the buffered data will still get to the synth
:)

Samuel