Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Marcel Oats]

Hi, this has probably been asked previously: I have a system that will only
boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it seems that the dvd's boot screen appears,
according to someone with sight, but when typing the s option, it is
ignored? The installer appears, and indeed the installation can be completed
with a braille display. Oh, when a USB soundcard is connected (just in case
the system's card isn't detected) no sound is heard either.

Speakup comes up on a machine that has legacy boot available, and indeed, we
even get the beep from the boot loader. How can we get speakup to run during
the installer, assuming that such an option is available anyway?

The image was downloaded from the website, and was located at
http://gemmei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-dvd/
Sorry to sound dum and so forth.
Marcel

Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Glenn]

I just got a new computer with UEFI, and I used sighted assistance to 
disable it in the BIOS, and to activate legacy boot.
Also, if you want to change the boot order, such as setting the SATA drive 
as the last option, you can do that at this time, and with some systems, it 
will not show other options unless you have them plugged in at this time.
For example, I did not have the SD boot option until I went into boot 
settings in BIOS with the SD card plugged in.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcel Oats" <moats@orcon.net.nz>
To: <Speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak


Hi, this has probably been asked previously: I have a system that will only
boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it seems that the dvd's boot screen appears,
according to someone with sight, but when typing the s option, it is
ignored? The installer appears, and indeed the installation can be completed
with a braille display. Oh, when a USB soundcard is connected (just in case
the system's card isn't detected) no sound is heard either.

Speakup comes up on a machine that has legacy boot available, and indeed, we
even get the beep from the boot loader. How can we get speakup to run during
the installer, assuming that such an option is available anyway?

The image was downloaded from the website, and was located at
http://gemmei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-dvd/
Sorry to sound dum and so forth.
Marcel

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Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Jude DaShiell]

This needs to be reported to debian-accessibility and a bug report needs 
filing as well.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015, Glenn wrote:

> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:58
> From: Glenn <glennervin@cableone.net>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak
> 
> I just got a new computer with UEFI, and I used sighted assistance to 
> disable it in the BIOS, and to activate legacy boot.
> Also, if you want to change the boot order, such as setting the SATA drive 
> as the last option, you can do that at this time, and with some systems, it 
> will not show other options unless you have them plugged in at this time.
> For example, I did not have the SD boot option until I went into boot 
> settings in BIOS with the SD card plugged in.
> HTH.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marcel Oats" <moats@orcon.net.nz>
> To: <Speakup@linux-speakup.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:48 PM
> Subject: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak
>
>
> Hi, this has probably been asked previously: I have a system that will only
> boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it seems that the dvd's boot screen appears,
> according to someone with sight, but when typing the s option, it is
> ignored? The installer appears, and indeed the installation can be completed
> with a braille display. Oh, when a USB soundcard is connected (just in case
> the system's card isn't detected) no sound is heard either.
>
> Speakup comes up on a machine that has legacy boot available, and indeed, we
> even get the beep from the boot loader. How can we get speakup to run during
> the installer, assuming that such an option is available anyway?
>
> The image was downloaded from the website, and was located at
> http://gemmei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-dvd/
> Sorry to sound dum and so forth.
> Marcel
>
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Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Steve Matzura]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:01:58 -0600, "Glenn" <glennervin@cableone.net>
wrote:

>I just got a new computer with UEFI, and I used sighted assistance to 
>disable it in the BIOS, and to activate legacy boot.

I'd sure love to know how to do that on this ASRock motherboard I
bought used from a friend.

>Also, if you want to change the boot order, such as setting the SATA drive 
>as the last option, you can do that at this time, and with some systems, it 
>will not show other options unless you have them plugged in at this time.
>For example, I did not have the SD boot option until I went into boot 
>settings in BIOS with the SD card plugged in.

Yes, that's what's going on with this ASRock board. In fact, the
option for booting from it even shows the specific drive name and
type, and the specific USB port to which it is connected.

Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Glenn]

If it is not in the BIOS, I would search on-line for a BIOS upgrade and you 
may get the option to turn it off.
Glenn
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From: "Steve Matzura" <sm@noisynotes.com>
To: "speakup" <speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak


On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:01:58 -0600, "Glenn" <glennervin@cableone.net>
wrote:

>I just got a new computer with UEFI, and I used sighted assistance to
>disable it in the BIOS, and to activate legacy boot.

I'd sure love to know how to do that on this ASRock motherboard I
bought used from a friend.

>Also, if you want to change the boot order, such as setting the SATA drive
>as the last option, you can do that at this time, and with some systems, it
>will not show other options unless you have them plugged in at this time.
>For example, I did not have the SD boot option until I went into boot
>settings in BIOS with the SD card plugged in.

Yes, that's what's going on with this ASRock board. In fact, the
option for booting from it even shows the specific drive name and
type, and the specific USB port to which it is connected.
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Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Marcel Oats, on Fri 01 Jan 2016 08:48:25 +1300, wrote:
> Hi, this has probably been asked previously:

Nope. I only happened to stumble on it too by chance.

> I have a system that will only boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it
> seems that the dvd's boot screen appears, according to someone with
> sight, but when typing the s option, it is ignored?

Indeed, nobody reported before that this wasn't working. This got fixed
lately (see debian bug #798908), but not before 8.2.0 got released.  The
fix should be available in 8.3.0 and 9.0.

In the meanwhile, you can press <end> <enter> since the speech boot
entry is always last in the menu.

Thanks for the report anyway, always better to report a bug which
happened to be fixed already than risking that it has never been fixed.

Samuel

RE: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Marcel Oats]

Excellent, will grab that version of the installer today, thanks for the reply.
Marcel


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Sent: Friday, 1 January 2016 9:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

Hello,

Marcel Oats, on Fri 01 Jan 2016 08:48:25 +1300, wrote:
> Hi, this has probably been asked previously:

Nope. I only happened to stumble on it too by chance.

> I have a system that will only boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it 
> seems that the dvd's boot screen appears, according to someone with 
> sight, but when typing the s option, it is ignored?

Indeed, nobody reported before that this wasn't working. This got fixed lately (see debian bug #798908), but not before 8.2.0 got released.  The fix should be available in 8.3.0 and 9.0.

In the meanwhile, you can press <end> <enter> since the speech boot entry is always last in the menu.

Thanks for the report anyway, always better to report a bug which happened to be fixed already than risking that it has never been fixed.

Samuel
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Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Samuel Thibault]

Marcel Oats, on Fri 01 Jan 2016 10:02:17 +1300, wrote:
> Excellent, will grab that version of the installer today,

They don't exist yet.  8.3.0 is the future jessie point-release, and 9.0
will be Stretch.  Thus the workaround for now, <end> <enter>

Samuel

RE: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Marcel Oats]

Ah ok,.
Marcel


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Sent: Friday, 1 January 2016 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

Marcel Oats, on Fri 01 Jan 2016 10:02:17 +1300, wrote:
> Excellent, will grab that version of the installer today,

They don't exist yet.  8.3.0 is the future jessie point-release, and 9.0 will be Stretch.  Thus the workaround for now, <end> <enter>

Samuel
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Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Steve Matzura]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 10:02:17 +1300, "Marcel Oats" <moats@orcon.net.nz>
wrote:

>> I have a system that will only boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it 
>> seems that the dvd's boot screen appears, according to someone with 
>> sight, but when typing the s option, it is ignored?
>
>Indeed, nobody reported before that this wasn't working. This got fixed lately (see debian bug #798908), but not before 8.2.0 got released.  The fix should be available in 8.3.0 and 9.0.

I haven't seen 8.3.0 (not to mention 9) out yet. Do you know when that
might happen? I like to keep my media and torrents up-to-date.

Re: Installing Debian Jessie under Uefi; installer does not speak

[Samuel Thibault]

Steve Matzura, on Sat 02 Jan 2016 10:51:48 -0500, wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 10:02:17 +1300, "Marcel Oats" <moats@orcon.net.nz>
> wrote:
> 
> >> I have a system that will only boot using Uefi (don't ask) and it 
> >> seems that the dvd's boot screen appears, according to someone with 
> >> sight, but when typing the s option, it is ignored?
> >
> >Indeed, nobody reported before that this wasn't working. This got fixed lately (see debian bug #798908), but not before 8.2.0 got released.  The fix should be available in 8.3.0 and 9.0.
> 
> I haven't seen 8.3.0 (not to mention 9) out yet.

As said in another mail, they don't exist yet.

> Do you know when that might happen? I like to keep my media and
> torrents up-to-date.

9 is expected about beginning of 2017. 8.3 will probably get out soon,
since 8.2 was in september.

Samuel