* instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux @ Chris Brannon ` UNS: " Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Chris Brannon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup It's not directly relevant to Speakup, but I suspect that a lot of the people on this list will be interested. Reposted from the chromevox discussion group: It seems that there is now a very easy way to install ChromeVox under Linux without sighted help. Basically, download the following file: http://the-brannons.com/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn.json And put it in a particular directory. I'm running chromium, and for me, that directory is /usr/lib/chromium-browser/extensions. If I were running chrome instead, it would be /opt/google/chrome/extensions. I'm running chromium on Gentoo, and I have no idea whether these paths are distro specific. You may also need to create the extensions/ directory. I had to do that. Once the file is copied, just start chromium or chrome, and chromevox *should* start talking! I don't know if this can be used for older versions of chrome / chromium. For what it's worth, chromium 29.0.1547.32 is installed here. In any case, I'm finally able to do an eyes-free install of chromevox under Linux! Thanks to "floppym" for showing me how to do this. -- Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: UNS: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux Chris Brannon @ ` Janina Sajka ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Wow, works on Fedora 19. Thanks, Chris. I also had to create the extensions directory. For good measure I chown'd the file root:root as well. I used yum to install chrome 28 (stable) itself. I was able to do this because I had the Google .repo file on archive from an installation someone at Google helped me do some years ago. I imagine a little Google search would turn up the downloadable location of that repo file. But, with that file inhand, installation was a breeze. Thanks for the json file. It worked like a charm! Janina Chris Brannon writes: > It's not directly relevant to Speakup, but I suspect that a lot of the > people on this list will be interested. > Reposted from the chromevox discussion group: > > It seems that there is now a very easy way to install ChromeVox under > Linux without sighted help. > Basically, download the following file: > http://the-brannons.com/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn.json > And put it in a particular directory. > I'm running chromium, and for me, that directory is > /usr/lib/chromium-browser/extensions. If I were running chrome instead, > it would be /opt/google/chrome/extensions. > I'm running chromium on Gentoo, and I have no idea whether these paths > are distro specific. You may also need to create the extensions/ > directory. I had to do that. > Once the file is copied, just start chromium or chrome, and > chromevox *should* start talking! > I don't know if this can be used for older versions of chrome / > chromium. For what it's worth, chromium 29.0.1547.32 is installed here. > In any case, I'm finally able to do an eyes-free install of chromevox > under Linux! > > Thanks to "floppym" for showing me how to do this. > > -- Chris > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: UNS: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` UNS: " Janina Sajka @ ` Janina Sajka ` Deedra Waters ` Chris Brannon 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Now that I've worked with this for awhile, I'm reminded there was one additional step when a Google person set this up for me some years ago. Because Chrome is self-voicing with Chrome Vox, Orca (and Speech-Dispatcher/Espeak) should be disabled while Chrome has focus. I regret I don't know how to set that up. May have to take this to the Orca list, unless someone here knows? Janina Janina Sajka writes: > Wow, works on Fedora 19. Thanks, Chris. > > I also had to create the extensions directory. For good measure I > chown'd the file root:root as well. > > I used yum to install chrome 28 (stable) itself. I was able to do this > because I had the Google .repo file on archive from an installation > someone at Google helped me do some years ago. I imagine a little Google > search would turn up the downloadable location of that repo file. But, > with that file inhand, installation was a breeze. > > Thanks for the json file. It worked like a charm! > > Janina > > Chris Brannon writes: > > It's not directly relevant to Speakup, but I suspect that a lot of the > > people on this list will be interested. > > Reposted from the chromevox discussion group: > > > > It seems that there is now a very easy way to install ChromeVox under > > Linux without sighted help. > > Basically, download the following file: > > http://the-brannons.com/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn.json > > And put it in a particular directory. > > I'm running chromium, and for me, that directory is > > /usr/lib/chromium-browser/extensions. If I were running chrome instead, > > it would be /opt/google/chrome/extensions. > > I'm running chromium on Gentoo, and I have no idea whether these paths > > are distro specific. You may also need to create the extensions/ > > directory. I had to do that. > > Once the file is copied, just start chromium or chrome, and > > chromevox *should* start talking! > > I don't know if this can be used for older versions of chrome / > > chromium. For what it's worth, chromium 29.0.1547.32 is installed here. > > In any case, I'm finally able to do an eyes-free install of chromevox > > under Linux! > > > > Thanks to "floppym" for showing me how to do this. > > > > -- Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net > Email: janina@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: UNS: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` Janina Sajka @ ` Deedra Waters ` Chris Brannon 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Deedra Waters @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. in our case, chromevox uses speech-dispatcher/espeak so no need for that here. it depends on the tts you're having it use. Janina Sajka wrote | Now that I've worked with this for awhile, I'm reminded there was one | additional step when a Google person set this up for me some years ago. | | Because Chrome is self-voicing with Chrome Vox, Orca (and | Speech-Dispatcher/Espeak) should be disabled while Chrome has focus. | | I regret I don't know how to set that up. May have to take this to the | Orca list, unless someone here knows? | | Janina | | Janina Sajka writes: | > Wow, works on Fedora 19. Thanks, Chris. | > | > I also had to create the extensions directory. For good measure I | > chown'd the file root:root as well. | > | > I used yum to install chrome 28 (stable) itself. I was able to do this | > because I had the Google .repo file on archive from an installation | > someone at Google helped me do some years ago. I imagine a little Google | > search would turn up the downloadable location of that repo file. But, | > with that file inhand, installation was a breeze. | > | > Thanks for the json file. It worked like a charm! | > | > Janina | > | > Chris Brannon writes: | > > It's not directly relevant to Speakup, but I suspect that a lot of the | > > people on this list will be interested. | > > Reposted from the chromevox discussion group: | > > | > > It seems that there is now a very easy way to install ChromeVox under | > > Linux without sighted help. | > > Basically, download the following file: | > > http://the-brannons.com/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn.json | > > And put it in a particular directory. | > > I'm running chromium, and for me, that directory is | > > /usr/lib/chromium-browser/extensions. If I were running chrome instead, | > > it would be /opt/google/chrome/extensions. | > > I'm running chromium on Gentoo, and I have no idea whether these paths | > > are distro specific. You may also need to create the extensions/ | > > directory. I had to do that. | > > Once the file is copied, just start chromium or chrome, and | > > chromevox *should* start talking! | > > I don't know if this can be used for older versions of chrome / | > > chromium. For what it's worth, chromium 29.0.1547.32 is installed here. | > > In any case, I'm finally able to do an eyes-free install of chromevox | > > under Linux! | > > | > > Thanks to "floppym" for showing me how to do this. | > > | > > -- Chris | > > _______________________________________________ | > > Speakup mailing list | > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org | > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup | > | > -- | > | > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 | > sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net | > Email: janina@rednote.net | > | > Linux Foundation Fellow | > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org | > | > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) | > Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf | > Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Speakup mailing list | > Speakup@linux-speakup.org | > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup | | -- | | Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 | sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net | Email: janina@rednote.net | | Linux Foundation Fellow | Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org | | The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) | Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf | Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ | | _______________________________________________ | Speakup mailing list | Speakup@linux-speakup.org | http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup | ---end quoted text--- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: UNS: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` Janina Sajka ` Deedra Waters @ ` Chris Brannon ` Jason White 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Chris Brannon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> writes: > Because Chrome is self-voicing with Chrome Vox, Orca (and > Speech-Dispatcher/Espeak) should be disabled while Chrome has focus. The easiest solution is to disable Orca temporarily. AFAIK, there's no way to silence Speech Dispatcher. If you're using it as the output method for chromevox, you wouldn't want to do that anyway. I think there might be a way to customize Orca so that Orca is disabled when self-voicing apps like chromevox have focus. If there is, don't use it right now. Chromevox does not (yet) speak some browser dialogs. These can be read with Orca, however. Just enable it temporarily to read them. Yes, it's annoying! Here's my current setup. I run chromium + chromevox under a lightweight window manager, ratpoison. Chromevox uses Speech Dispatcher with eSpeak for speech. Yes, I'm not taking the perfectly sound advice I just gave in the previous paragraph, since I'm running without a desktop environment, and hence, without Orca. HTH, -- Chris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` Chris Brannon @ ` Jason White ` Doug Smith 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jason White @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com> wrote: > I think there might be a way to customize Orca so that Orca is disabled > when self-voicing apps like chromevox have focus. If there is, don't > use it right now. Chromevox does not (yet) speak some browser dialogs. > These can be read with Orca, however. Just enable it temporarily to > read them. Yes, it's annoying! As I understand it, all browser dialogues and menus are spoken with ChromeVox under Chrome OS, but the code that does this isn't enabled in the standard Linux builds of Chromium. I don't know what would be required to fix this. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` Jason White @ ` Doug Smith ` Kyle 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Doug Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I just wanted to ask this. I have never used it, but I wonder if crome os itself is accessible. Thanks. -- Doug Smith: Special Agent S.W.A.T Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` Doug Smith @ ` Kyle ` Doug Smith 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Kyle @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup ChromeOS is indeed accessible. I have a Chromebook, and it works fairly well. I'm not sure I'll ever get used to everything being in the browser though. I still like desktop apps <smiles> ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: instructions for doing an eyes-free install of chromevox on Linux ` Kyle @ ` Doug Smith 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Doug Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Thanks. I wondered about that. You learn something new every day. -- Doug Smith: Special Agent S.W.A.T Spiritual Warfare and Advanced Technology Forever serving our LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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