Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Chris Brannon]

Hi all,
It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
option for some.

Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
numpad 0.
I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
days.

-- Chris

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209]

Also confirmed on Fedora. A real shame because rpmfusion just turned 
Speakup on in their staging package.

           73.


-- 
           Bill in Denver

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Chris Brannon wrote:

> Hi all,
> It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
> These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
> Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
> upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
> who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
> linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
> version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
> option for some.
>
> Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
> review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
> numpad 0.
> I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
> problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
> days.
>
> -- Chris
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Austin Seraphin]

Hey I just had this exact problem. Thanks so much for posting this message. I guess I'll try downgrading. THis happens on Arch with Kernel 3.4.3.

Austin Seraphin
au@sunbeem.net




On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Chris Brannon wrote:

> Hi all,
> It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
> These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
> Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
> upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
> who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
> linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
> version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
> option for some.
> 
> Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
> review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
> numpad 0.
> I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
> problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
> days.
> 
> -- Chris
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Steve Holmes]

Interesting thing here is if you use the laptop keys on any machine, the thing won't crash.  I've had an updated Arch kernel on my laptop for several days now and had no idea there was anything wrong.  But then I came home to my old desktop and started using the numpad keys and it kept crashing and I had no idea why.  But I just tried doing a shifted caps lock on my laptop and it crashed there two.  This is a serious regression and hope it can be fixed soon.  Wonder how kernel devs broke this thing.

Thanks Chris for the suggested downgrade options; that can at least keep our heads above the water.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 06:49:59PM -0400, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> Hey I just had this exact problem. Thanks so much for posting this message. I guess I'll try downgrading. THis happens on Arch with Kernel 3.4.3.
> 
> Austin Seraphin
> au@sunbeem.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Chris Brannon wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
> > These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
> > Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
> > upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
> > who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
> > linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
> > version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
> > option for some.
> > 
> > Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
> > review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
> > numpad 0.
> > I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
> > problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
> > days.
> > 
> > -- Chris
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Steve Holmes]

Has there been any progress in fixing the 3.4 kernel speakup bugs? I
am very disturbed that we may have to hold back to a 3.3 kernel to
avoid locking up a computer whenever you press a speakup command on a
desktop keyboard.

Any news?


On 7/8/12, Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote:
> Interesting thing here is if you use the laptop keys on any machine, the
> thing won't crash.  I've had an updated Arch kernel on my laptop for several
> days now and had no idea there was anything wrong.  But then I came home to
> my old desktop and started using the numpad keys and it kept crashing and I
> had no idea why.  But I just tried doing a shifted caps lock on my laptop
> and it crashed there two.  This is a serious regression and hope it can be
> fixed soon.  Wonder how kernel devs broke this thing.
>
> Thanks Chris for the suggested downgrade options; that can at least keep our
> heads above the water.
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 06:49:59PM -0400, Austin Seraphin wrote:
>> Hey I just had this exact problem. Thanks so much for posting this
>> message. I guess I'll try downgrading. THis happens on Arch with Kernel
>> 3.4.3.
>>
>> Austin Seraphin
>> au@sunbeem.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Chris Brannon wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
>> > These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
>> > Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
>> > upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
>> > who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
>> > linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
>> > version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
>> > option for some.
>> >
>> > Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
>> > review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
>> > numpad 0.
>> > I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
>> > problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
>> > days.
>> >
>> > -- Chris
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Janina Sajka]

Steve:

Yes, check the Speakup archive for the details which Ican't replay off
the top of my head.

For example, those of us up to date with our Speakup Modified Fedora 17
kernels are now on:

3.4.5-2.spk.fc17

Janina

Steve Holmes writes:
> Has there been any progress in fixing the 3.4 kernel speakup bugs? I
> am very disturbed that we may have to hold back to a 3.3 kernel to
> avoid locking up a computer whenever you press a speakup command on a
> desktop keyboard.
> 
> Any news?
> 
> 
> On 7/8/12, Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote:
> > Interesting thing here is if you use the laptop keys on any machine, the
> > thing won't crash.  I've had an updated Arch kernel on my laptop for several
> > days now and had no idea there was anything wrong.  But then I came home to
> > my old desktop and started using the numpad keys and it kept crashing and I
> > had no idea why.  But I just tried doing a shifted caps lock on my laptop
> > and it crashed there two.  This is a serious regression and hope it can be
> > fixed soon.  Wonder how kernel devs broke this thing.
> >
> > Thanks Chris for the suggested downgrade options; that can at least keep our
> > heads above the water.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 06:49:59PM -0400, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> >> Hey I just had this exact problem. Thanks so much for posting this
> >> message. I guess I'll try downgrading. THis happens on Arch with Kernel
> >> 3.4.3.
> >>
> >> Austin Seraphin
> >> au@sunbeem.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Chris Brannon wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
> >> > These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
> >> > Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
> >> > upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
> >> > who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
> >> > linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
> >> > version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
> >> > option for some.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
> >> > review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
> >> > numpad 0.
> >> > I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
> >> > problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
> >> > days.
> >> >
> >> > -- Chris
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Speakup mailing list
> >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[acollins]

Hello all.  I'm one of those people who still enjoys building my own
kernel from source.  I recently managed to build a 3.4.4 kernel with
speakup for my old pentium III. machine, wich still has isa slots and a
doubletalk board.  It worked just fine.  Speakup did not lock up, and
the only problem I had was that my beep program which plays a beep.wav
file through my sound blaster card whenever the system initiates a beep
through the pc speaker wasn't working.  Other than that, no problems.  I
am running Debian Squeeze.  I don't have enough ram on that machine to
run Gnome, but everything else is working greate!

Gene Collins

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209]

Hi all,

      I see that the goto bug patch was finally applied to the 3.6.0 tree. 
Any word on the much more serious spinlock bug? Is Alan's patch still our 
best bet, or might it have been fixed another way? Applying that patch 
works for the 3.5.1 kernel, but I haven't tried booting without it.

           TIA.


-- 
           Bill in Denver

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Steve Holmes wrote:

> Has there been any progress in fixing the 3.4 kernel speakup bugs? I
> am very disturbed that we may have to hold back to a 3.3 kernel to
> avoid locking up a computer whenever you press a speakup command on a
> desktop keyboard.
>
> Any news?
>
>
> On 7/8/12, Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> wrote:
>> Interesting thing here is if you use the laptop keys on any machine, the
>> thing won't crash.  I've had an updated Arch kernel on my laptop for several
>> days now and had no idea there was anything wrong.  But then I came home to
>> my old desktop and started using the numpad keys and it kept crashing and I
>> had no idea why.  But I just tried doing a shifted caps lock on my laptop
>> and it crashed there two.  This is a serious regression and hope it can be
>> fixed soon.  Wonder how kernel devs broke this thing.
>>
>> Thanks Chris for the suggested downgrade options; that can at least keep our
>> heads above the water.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 06:49:59PM -0400, Austin Seraphin wrote:
>>> Hey I just had this exact problem. Thanks so much for posting this
>>> message. I guess I'll try downgrading. THis happens on Arch with Kernel
>>> 3.4.3.
>>>
>>> Austin Seraphin
>>> au@sunbeem.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Chris Brannon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> It seems that Speakup is broken for the new 3.4.x kernels.
>>>> These are now in the core repository on ArchLinux.  If you're running
>>>> Arch and you haven't upgraded, you might want to hold off on doing the
>>>> upgrade.  Downgrading to a 3.3.x kernel might be an option for people
>>>> who have already been hit.  Also, ArchLinux provides a package called
>>>> linux-lts.  This is an older kernel.  Currently, that package is at
>>>> version 3.0.4.  So replacing linux with linux-lts might also be an
>>>> option for some.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, here's the problem.  As soon as you use one of the Speakup
>>>> review keys, the system locks up hard.  This is even the case with
>>>> numpad 0.
>>>> I'm going to use git bisect to figure out which change causes the
>>>> problem.  Hopefully, I (or someone) can write a patch in the next few
>>>> days.
>>>>
>>>> -- Chris
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Chris Brannon]

I don't see that any of those patches have been applied to the main tree
yet, but both are applied in Greg KH's tty tree.  So they'll get there
eventually.  I'm still waiting.

-- Chris

"William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209" <wacker@octothorp.org> writes:

> Hi all,
>
>      I see that the goto bug patch was finally applied to the 3.6.0
> tree. Any word on the much more serious spinlock bug? Is Alan's patch
> still our best bet, or might it have been fixed another way? Applying
> that patch works for the 3.5.1 kernel, but I haven't tried booting
> without it.
>

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Steve Holmes]

Is spinlock the thing that causes all the speakup command keys to
crash and lock up the computer?  If so, I sure hope people get this
moving.  This is a major show stopper and serious impact and could
really discourage new blind users to come over and try Linux.  I'm
very lucky that most of the laptop based speakup commands still work
but try toggling the caps lock key sometime.  Computer locks up every
time.  I'm on the newest kernel in Arch - 3.5.something.

On 8/15/12, Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com> wrote:
> I don't see that any of those patches have been applied to the main tree
> yet, but both are applied in Greg KH's tty tree.  So they'll get there
> eventually.  I'm still waiting.
>
> -- Chris
>
> "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209" <wacker@octothorp.org> writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>      I see that the goto bug patch was finally applied to the 3.6.0
>> tree. Any word on the much more serious spinlock bug? Is Alan's patch
>> still our best bet, or might it have been fixed another way? Applying
>> that patch works for the 3.5.1 kernel, but I haven't tried booting
>> without it.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Kyle]

The latest info I heard is that the 3.6 tree is getting the patches. I 
really do hope this is fixed sooner rather than later, but we have 
several iterations of 3.5 kernels to get through before 3.6 is deemed 
stable enough to release and then even more before it makes it into 
official distros. This last part usually only takes a week or two in 
Arch, including the signoff process, but it still could be at least a 
month before the 3.6 kernel becomes the default in any distro. For now, 
I still use the LTS kernel, which is 3.0.41-1. I do keep the most recent 
kernel as well, and I test for the Speakup issue on most updates. 
Additionally, my main computer should be back up and running within the 
next two weeks, so I will be able to play with newer kernels on virtual 
machines rather than needing to continue wearing out my thumb drive. 
<grin> so I should be able to report to the list when it's fixed.
~Kyle

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Adam Myrow]

Did these Speakup bugs exist in 3.2.28?  I ask because according to the 
ChangeLog.txt file for slackware-current, the upcoming Slackware version 
14.0 is going to use this kernel.  There were apparently random crashes on 
boot with 3.4.9.

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209]

Hi,

      3.2 kernels should be fine as far as the spinlock bug is concerned.

      There's moderately good news. The go-to bug patch was merged in 3.5.5 
and above, and Alan's spinlock patch went into 3.7.0. I hope that the 
latter patch makes it into a 3.5 and 3.6 subsequent release.

           Hope this helps someone.


-- 
           Bill in Denver

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Adam Myrow wrote:

> Did these Speakup bugs exist in 3.2.28?  I ask because according to the 
> ChangeLog.txt file for slackware-current, the upcoming Slackware version 14.0 
> is going to use this kernel.  There were apparently random crashes on boot 
> with 3.4.9.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Steve Holmes]

I'm not exactly which bug is which but I only know that on Arch Linux
as of this afternoon Oct 21, I'm running a 3.6.2 kernel and the one
bug I knew on my laptop involved pressing Shift + CapsLock to toggle
capitalization in Speakup would always crash before.  I am happy to
say that that doesn't crash anymore for me.  I don't have a num pad
here so can't verify the other speakup keys.  I pull from the Testing
repos so dunno if 3.6 is available to Arch users who don't pull from
testing.

So hopefully the light at the end of the tunnle is much brighter now.

On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 08:01:46PM -0600, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>      3.2 kernels should be fine as far as the spinlock bug is concerned.
> 
>      There's moderately good news. The go-to bug patch was merged in
> 3.5.5 and above, and Alan's spinlock patch went into 3.7.0. I hope
> that the latter patch makes it into a 3.5 and 3.6 subsequent
> release.
> 
>           Hope this helps someone.
> 
> 
> -- 
>           Bill in Denver
> 
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Adam Myrow wrote:
> 
> >Did these Speakup bugs exist in 3.2.28?  I ask because according
> >to the ChangeLog.txt file for slackware-current, the upcoming
> >Slackware version 14.0 is going to use this kernel.  There were
> >apparently random crashes on boot with 3.4.9.
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Kyle]

I pulled down the 3.6.2 kernel I believe 2 days ago, and the crash when 
pressing numeric keys is completely gone. Unless there is a minor bug 
that hasn't yet popped up, it would seem our Speakup troubles are indeed 
over.
~Kyle

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[covici]

Well, we still have the serial bug, and I had numlock want to go on when
switching windows, but that stopped happening after a while, I am not
sure what caused that.

Kyle <kyle4jesus@gmail.com> wrote:

> I pulled down the 3.6.2 kernel I believe 2 days ago, and the crash
> when pressing numeric keys is completely gone. Unless there is a minor
> bug that hasn't yet popped up, it would seem our Speakup troubles are
> indeed over.
> ~Kyle
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209]

Well, I must admit that I hadn't actually tested Speakup since Alan's 
patch stopped applying cleanly, but linux-3.7 was just released. It seems 
to have all of Alan's patch, so, with luck, we're out of the woods.

-- 
           Bill in Denver

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Well, we still have the serial bug, and I had numlock want to go on when
> switching windows, but that stopped happening after a while, I am not
> sure what caused that.
>
> Kyle <kyle4jesus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I pulled down the 3.6.2 kernel I believe 2 days ago, and the crash
>> when pressing numeric keys is completely gone. Unless there is a minor
>> bug that hasn't yet popped up, it would seem our Speakup troubles are
>> indeed over.
>> ~Kyle
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>         John Covici
>         covici@ccs.covici.com
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

RE: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[John G. Heim]

Is the serial bug you're talking about the one where speakup couldn't
"steal" back the serial port so many serial synths couldn't be initialized?
It was in the file serialio.c.

I used to have my own patch for that and I have about 200 machines running a
custom kernel because of it. If that bug is fixed in the kernel source, it
is a big deal to me.

-----Original Message-----
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William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:06 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

Well, I must admit that I hadn't actually tested Speakup since Alan's patch
stopped applying cleanly, but linux-3.7 was just released. It seems to have
all of Alan's patch, so, with luck, we're out of the woods.

-- 
           Bill in Denver

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Well, we still have the serial bug, and I had numlock want to go on 
> when switching windows, but that stopped happening after a while, I am 
> not sure what caused that.
>
> Kyle <kyle4jesus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I pulled down the 3.6.2 kernel I believe 2 days ago, and the crash 
>> when pressing numeric keys is completely gone. Unless there is a 
>> minor bug that hasn't yet popped up, it would seem our Speakup 
>> troubles are indeed over.
>> ~Kyle
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
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Re: Speakup broken with kernel 3.4.x (ArchLinux users please read)

[Kyle]

I don't think this was the problem we had, although this may have been 
fixed also. I don't have a serial port on this box, so I can't test with 
my kernel.

The problem that affected 3.4 kernels apparently had something to do 
with something called spinlock or some such. It caused Speakup to lock 
the entire system whenever a speakup-related key on the numeric keypad 
was pressed. It didn't affect keypadless laptops, only desktops and 
laptops with the numeric keypad. This is the bug that was fixed in the 
3.6 kernel tree, although I believe a patch may have been submitted for 
serial synths as well. Not sure though.
~Kyle
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