rfc: speakup supported kernels

rfc: speakup supported kernels

[William Hubbs]

All,

our documentation states that speakup supports kernels 2.6.18 and later.
I doubt that this is correct any longer, so I wanted to bring this to
the list and figure out which versions of the kernel we want to try to
support.

I would suggest 2.6.26 and later, because from that point on if someone
wants to build speakup into the kernel, we modify the build system to do
that, but we do not change any of the kernel source itself.

Does anyone know if kernel versions older than 2.6.26 are being used
these days?  Do we still need speakup support for those older kernels?

Any input on this would be appreciated.

Thanks much,

William

Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Bill Cox]

I guess I'm more worried about speakup not being supported in trunk of
the current mainline kernel, nor in Ubuntu Maverick's current kernel.
Should we say speakup only supports kernels prior to some number?

Bill

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> our documentation states that speakup supports kernels 2.6.18 and later.
> I doubt that this is correct any longer, so I wanted to bring this to
> the list and figure out which versions of the kernel we want to try to
> support.
>
> I would suggest 2.6.26 and later, because from that point on if someone
> wants to build speakup into the kernel, we modify the build system to do
> that, but we do not change any of the kernel source itself.
>
> Does anyone know if kernel versions older than 2.6.26 are being used
> these days?  Do we still need speakup support for those older kernels?
>
> Any input on this would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> William
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Samuel Thibault]

Bill Cox, le Thu 24 Jun 2010 15:57:16 -0400, a écrit :
> I guess I'm more worried about speakup not being supported in trunk of
> the current mainline kernel, nor in Ubuntu Maverick's current kernel.

This is already being worked on.

Samuel

Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Bill Cox]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Samuel Thibault
<samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org> wrote:
> Bill Cox, le Thu 24 Jun 2010 15:57:16 -0400, a écrit :
>> I guess I'm more worried about speakup not being supported in trunk of
>> the current mainline kernel, nor in Ubuntu Maverick's current kernel.
>
> This is already being worked on.

Sweet!  Please post when something is working.  I'll start testing it
in Ubuntu Maverick.

Bill

Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Trevor Saunders]

Hi,

Only kernels numbered less than 2.6.26 that I know of in use are the rhel 26.18 and 26.9, which iirc don't work with speakup anyway.  so 2.6.26 seems reasonable.

Trev

Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi. 2.6.26 should be fine, although my server here still runs 2.6.19.2. I'm not
physically at the machine most of the time, and in very few instances need to
pull out the Dec Express to fix some problem or other.
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 02:37:03PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
> 
> our documentation states that speakup supports kernels 2.6.18 and later.
> I doubt that this is correct any longer, so I wanted to bring this to
> the list and figure out which versions of the kernel we want to try to
> support.
> 
> I would suggest 2.6.26 and later, because from that point on if someone
> wants to build speakup into the kernel, we modify the build system to do
> that, but we do not change any of the kernel source itself.
> 
> Does anyone know if kernel versions older than 2.6.26 are being used
> these days?  Do we still need speakup support for those older kernels?
> 
> Any input on this would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> William
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Trevor Astrope]

Kernels older than 2.6.26 definitely don't work with current speakup, as 
speakup only supports the newer kobject implementation.

Rhel/Centos 5 use a modified 2.6.18 kernel. As it stands, these 
distributions aren't supported. Personally, I use a stable distro such as 
these, as I just like to have a stable working system that is low 
maintenance. I upgrade my os wehn I upgrade my hardware, which is about 
every 5 years. Rhel/centos is also popular in enterprise environments.

I don't think it is necessary to support the older kernels with new 
speakup versions, but it would be nice if an older speakup release that 
did work with these kernels would still be available. That is the downside 
to using git and not releasing stable versions.



On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, William Hubbs wrote:

> All,
>
> our documentation states that speakup supports kernels 2.6.18 and later.
> I doubt that this is correct any longer, so I wanted to bring this to
> the list and figure out which versions of the kernel we want to try to
> support.
>
> I would suggest 2.6.26 and later, because from that point on if someone
> wants to build speakup into the kernel, we modify the build system to do
> that, but we do not change any of the kernel source itself.
>
> Does anyone know if kernel versions older than 2.6.26 are being used
> these days?  Do we still need speakup support for those older kernels?
>
> Any input on this would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> William
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: rfc: speakup supported kernels

[Samuel Thibault]

Trevor Astrope, le Thu 24 Jun 2010 17:00:55 -0400, a écrit :
> I don't think it is necessary to support the older kernels with new 
> speakup versions, but it would be nice if an older speakup release that 
> did work with these kernels would still be available. That is the downside 
> to using git and not releasing stable versions.

?!

stable versions do exist, and are tagged in git, starting from v3.0.2.

Samuel