Apollo stops talking from time to time

Apollo stops talking from time to time

[Michael Whapples]

Hello,
I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to time. 
The last time this happened I looked at the output from dmesg and found 
a message saying:
Apollo: too many timeouts, deactivating speakup

I am using GRML with speakup built from the source debian package Samuel 
recently made. What's causing this and how might I solve it?

Michael Whapples

Re: Apollo stops talking from time to time

[Samuel Thibault]

Michael Whapples, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 12:12:43 +0000, a écrit :
> I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to time. 

Does it happen while reading a long text or even under low load?

Samuel

Re: Apollo stops talking from time to time

[Kerry Hoath]

The apollo has a filthy implementation of handshaking.
I know that speakup has to try and work around this as much as it can, 
however this isn't perfect.
Sadly the best solution is to get a different speech synthesizer, however 
failing this provide as much information about the circumstances around the 
bug as you can.
I don't think apollos are that common these days.
Regards, Kerry.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Apollo stops talking from time to time


> Hello,
> I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to time. The 
> last time this happened I looked at the output from dmesg and found a 
> message saying:
> Apollo: too many timeouts, deactivating speakup
>
> I am using GRML with speakup built from the source debian package Samuel 
> recently made. What's causing this and how might I solve it?
>
> Michael Whapples
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Re: Apollo stops talking from time to time

[Michael Whapples]

I can't reproduce it on demand but it commonly seems to happen when 
quite a bit of text is scrolling on the screen (eg. when booting and 
boot messages are scrolling on the screen). Although I used the example 
of boot messages I have encountered it at other times like when I was 
browsing in lynx and it was loading a new page.

Michael Whapples
On 23/12/42 19:59, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Michael Whapples, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 12:12:43 +0000, a écrit :
>    
>> I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to time.
>>      
> Does it happen while reading a long text or even under low load?
>
> Samuel
>
>    

Re: Re: Apollo stops talking from time to time

[Michael Whapples]

Getting another synth is out of the question unless someone is willing 
to donate one to me.

This bug hadn't previously shown itself in speakup with my apollo until 
recently (I am not quite sure when but it is somewhere since the 
beginning of 2009 when I switched to GRML).

Michael Whapples
On 23/12/42 19:59, Kerry Hoath wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">The 
> apollo has a filthy implementation of handshaking.
> I know that speakup has to try and work around this as much as it can, 
> however this isn't perfect.
> Sadly the best solution is to get a different speech synthesizer, 
> however failing this provide as much information about the 
> circumstances around the bug as you can.
> I don't think apollos are that common these days.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:12 PM
> Subject: Apollo stops talking from time to time
>
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to 
>> time. The last time this happened I looked at the output from dmesg 
>> and found a message saying:
>> Apollo: too many timeouts, deactivating speakup
>>
>> I am using GRML with speakup built from the source debian package 
>> Samuel recently made. What's causing this and how might I solve it?
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
>
>
> </div>

Re: Re: Apollo stops talking from time to time

[William Hubbs]

Hi Michael,

what is the value you see when you type this command:

cat /sys/module/speakup/parameters/full_time

Thanks,

William

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:29:47PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> I can't reproduce it on demand but it commonly seems to happen when quite a 
> bit of text is scrolling on the screen (eg. when booting and boot messages 
> are scrolling on the screen). Although I used the example of boot messages 
> I have encountered it at other times like when I was browsing in lynx and 
> it was loading a new page.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 23/12/42 19:59, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> Michael Whapples, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 12:12:43 +0000, a ?crit :
>>    
>>> I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to time.
>>>      
>> Does it happen while reading a long text or even under low load?
>>
>> Samuel
>>
>>    
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Re: Re: Apollo stops talking from time to time

[Michael Whapples]

On 23/12/42 19:59, William Hubbs wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> what is the value you see when you type this command:
> 40000
>    

I don't recall this ever happening when using speakup with espeakup on 
my laptop, so as far as I can test (as I have only the apollo synth for 
a hardware synth) only the apollo is affected. Alternatively I can say 
for sure speakup_soft isn't affected (this is probably the more accurate 
statement).

Michael Whapples

> cat /sys/module/speakup/parameters/full_time
>
> Thanks,
>
> William
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 04:29:47PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
>    
>> I can't reproduce it on demand but it commonly seems to happen when quite a
>> bit of text is scrolling on the screen (eg. when booting and boot messages
>> are scrolling on the screen). Although I used the example of boot messages
>> I have encountered it at other times like when I was browsing in lynx and
>> it was loading a new page.
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>> On 23/12/42 19:59, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>      
>>> Michael Whapples, le Fri 10 Apr 2009 12:12:43 +0000, a ?crit :
>>>
>>>        
>>>> I have noticed that my apollo seems to stop talking from time to time.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Does it happen while reading a long text or even under low load?
>>>
>>> Samuel
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>      
>