eth0 not recognized:school system

eth0 not recognized:school system

[Tyler Littlefield]

Hello,
I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and am using a cross over.
I installed linux and all that, but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
I've tried:
inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem before.

Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and am using a cross over.

Doesn't your school have an I/T department for doing that kind of
stuff, or are they for windows only, or is setting up a gnu/linux
system part of a course you're taking?

> I installed linux and all that,

"All that" isn't informative enough. What distribution?

> but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
> I've tried:
> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem before.

What does dmesg say, if anything? Does linux have support for the
card(s) you're trying to use, and if so, then is that support
configured into your running kernel, either as modules, or built-in?

Greg


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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
I installed it on debian.
I tried using the hw card that I've used on all my comps from home, and it 
still doesn't recognize it.
I'm in i/t. I'm using it for networking because wireshark is not accessible.

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> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and 
>> am using a cross over.
>
> Doesn't your school have an I/T department for doing that kind of
> stuff, or are they for windows only, or is setting up a gnu/linux
> system part of a course you're taking?
>
>> I installed linux and all that,
>
> "All that" isn't informative enough. What distribution?
>
>> but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
>> I've tried:
>> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
>> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
>> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem 
>> before.
>
> What does dmesg say, if anything? Does linux have support for the
> card(s) you're trying to use, and if so, then is that support
> configured into your running kernel, either as modules, or built-in?
>
> Greg
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Gregory Nowak]

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Ok. There is a udev rule in debian that renames some cards from eth0
to eth1. So, with 1 card in the system, try configuring eth1 instead
of eth0.

Greg


On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 01:08:41PM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> hello,
> I installed it on debian.
> I tried using the hw card that I've used on all my comps from home, and 
> it still doesn't recognize it.
> I'm in i/t. I'm using it for networking because wireshark is not accessible.
>


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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Tyler Littlefield]

I'll try it, thanks.

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> Ok. There is a udev rule in debian that renames some cards from eth0
> to eth1. So, with 1 card in the system, try configuring eth1 instead
> of eth0.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 01:08:41PM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> hello,
>> I installed it on debian.
>> I tried using the hw card that I've used on all my comps from home, and
>> it still doesn't recognize it.
>> I'm in i/t. I'm using it for networking because wireshark is not 
>> accessible.
>>
>
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi tyler,

   You might look at the basics (if you haven't already)... That is, look  at the output of 'lspci'. All pci devices in the system will be listed there. Look for one that says something about 'net'. It should be listed there. If not, either it's not a pci device, or it isn't being recognized by your system (that isn't likely).

   If it is listed by lspci, then you just need to install the proper driver, usually by modprobing the appropriate module. The udev rules simply allow "renaming" of the interface. You can worry about that later, if you want to, after establishing that the device/interface is functioning correctly.

   HTH,

   --terry

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 03:45:11PM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> I'll try it, thanks.
>
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>> Ok. There is a udev rule in debian that renames some cards from eth0
>> to eth1. So, with 1 card in the system, try configuring eth1 instead
>> of eth0.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 01:08:41PM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>>> hello,
>>> I installed it on debian.
>>> I tried using the hw card that I've used on all my comps from home, and
>>> it still doesn't recognize it.
>>> I'm in i/t. I'm using it for networking because wireshark is not  
>>> accessible.
>>>
>>
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Alex Snow]

Is the card recognised as another interface? try just running ifconfig 
and seeing what output you get.  I had a couple of systems at work 
that for some reason saw the onboard ethernet as eth2, even though 
there were no eth0 or eth1.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, 
Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and am using a cross over.
> I installed linux and all that, but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
> I've tried:
> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem before.
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Tyler Littlefield]

I'll give it a shot on monday. I'm celebrating my 18th saturday, and just 
decided school doesn't sound all that fun tomorrow. :)
thanks for the tips.

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> Is the card recognised as another interface? try just running ifconfig
> and seeing what output you get.  I had a couple of systems at work
> that for some reason saw the onboard ethernet as eth2, even though
> there were no eth0 or eth1.
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700,
> Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and 
>> am using a cross over.
>> I installed linux and all that, but when I use ifconfig, it says that 
>> eth0 wasn't recognized.
>> I've tried:
>> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
>> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
>> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem 
>> before.
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi. I have encountered this as well on servers that I have worked on. Ifconfig
- -a, or ip link show should give you a sense of what interfaces are being
recognized. Hth.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 06:52:39PM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> Is the card recognised as another interface? try just running ifconfig 
> and seeing what output you get.  I had a couple of systems at work 
> that for some reason saw the onboard ethernet as eth2, even though 
> there were no eth0 or eth1.
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, 
> Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and am using a cross over.
> > I installed linux and all that, but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
> > I've tried:
> > inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
> > I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
> > Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem before.
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
I am replying to the first post in response I think, as that's the top of 
the thread for me.
Anyway, it was udev, and I just replaced it with hotplug.
More and more things seem to be breaiking with debian lately, now bash 
requires udev for completion if you upgrade bash, but udev isn't  a required 
package.
There's a ln hack you can use, but it seems like packages aren't coming with 
the proper dependencies.
Anyone else experiencing this problem?
I personally didn't mind udev--until it decided to rename nic interfaces, 
anyway. That broke a lot of scripts from startup and others.
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> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, and 
>> am using a cross over.
>
> Doesn't your school have an I/T department for doing that kind of
> stuff, or are they for windows only, or is setting up a gnu/linux
> system part of a course you're taking?
>
>> I installed linux and all that,
>
> "All that" isn't informative enough. What distribution?
>
>> but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
>> I've tried:
>> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
>> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
>> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem 
>> before.
>
> What does dmesg say, if anything? Does linux have support for the
> card(s) you're trying to use, and if so, then is that support
> configured into your running kernel, either as modules, or built-in?
>
> Greg
>
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Kerry Hoath]

You might experience trouble eventually from obliterating udev, it seems to 
be becoming more and more ingrained and it solves a lot of problems as well 
as creating some interesting situations.
I think hotplug is deprecated not sure.
There is a good reason for the eth0 funnies, both why interfaces are renamed 
and why they are locked in place.
On a normal box you don't usually want a firewire interface showing up as 
eth0, as the average user doesn't want to network with firewire.

Also on a normal box when you boot the kernel without the udev magic 
multiple ethernet interfaces are detected in the order the kernel finds 
them. This means if you add a second card, eth0 can become eth1 and visa 
versa.
With udev, the mac address of eth0 is stored in the persistant rules file 
and eth0 stays eth0 when you add a card.
this can cause problems if you change the card in a box, eth0 will become 
eth1, then if you change to a 3rd card it becomes eth2.

You can fix this by removing the lines from 
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistant-net-generator-rules
not sure if I spelt that properly.

This is important if you are creating virtual machines with Debian Ubuntu or 
Gentoo and you clone the machine. When the Mac of the nic changes udev 
assigns another interface name to the card.
It is easy enough to remove the lines from the generator file and reboot the 
machine to get eth0 back.

I find that ifconfig -a is a good way to find out what udev has done to your 
interfaces.
Regards, Kerry.

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Subject: Re: eth0 not recognized:school system


> hello,
> I am replying to the first post in response I think, as that's the top of 
> the thread for me.
> Anyway, it was udev, and I just replaced it with hotplug.
> More and more things seem to be breaiking with debian lately, now bash 
> requires udev for completion if you upgrade bash, but udev isn't  a 
> required package.
> There's a ln hack you can use, but it seems like packages aren't coming 
> with the proper dependencies.
> Anyone else experiencing this problem?
> I personally didn't mind udev--until it decided to rename nic interfaces, 
> anyway. That broke a lot of scripts from startup and others.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
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>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>>> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, 
>>> and am using a cross over.
>>
>> Doesn't your school have an I/T department for doing that kind of
>> stuff, or are they for windows only, or is setting up a gnu/linux
>> system part of a course you're taking?
>>
>>> I installed linux and all that,
>>
>> "All that" isn't informative enough. What distribution?
>>
>>> but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
>>> I've tried:
>>> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
>>> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
>>> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem 
>>> before.
>>
>> What does dmesg say, if anything? Does linux have support for the
>> card(s) you're trying to use, and if so, then is that support
>> configured into your running kernel, either as modules, or built-in?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hotplug is deprecated as far as I know, and its successor is udev. So,
I would advise against going to hotplug. Also, is there a specific
reason why the interface had to be called eth0, couldn't you just have
configured it as whatever udev chose to call it?

Greg
 

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:42:18PM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> hello,
> I am replying to the first post in response I think, as that's the top of 
> the thread for me.
> Anyway, it was udev, and I just replaced it with hotplug.
> More and more things seem to be breaiking with debian lately, now bash  
> requires udev for completion if you upgrade bash, but udev isn't  a 
> required package.
> There's a ln hack you can use, but it seems like packages aren't coming 
> with the proper dependencies.
> Anyone else experiencing this problem?
> I personally didn't mind udev--until it decided to rename nic interfaces, 
> anyway. That broke a lot of scripts from startup and others.


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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
sounds like it may help in the future, though my only networking card, 
(wireless or otherwise) is just ethernet, so not sure why it got renamed.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: eth0 not recognized:school system


> You might experience trouble eventually from obliterating udev, it seems 
> to be becoming more and more ingrained and it solves a lot of problems as 
> well as creating some interesting situations.
> I think hotplug is deprecated not sure.
> There is a good reason for the eth0 funnies, both why interfaces are 
> renamed and why they are locked in place.
> On a normal box you don't usually want a firewire interface showing up as 
> eth0, as the average user doesn't want to network with firewire.
>
> Also on a normal box when you boot the kernel without the udev magic 
> multiple ethernet interfaces are detected in the order the kernel finds 
> them. This means if you add a second card, eth0 can become eth1 and visa 
> versa.
> With udev, the mac address of eth0 is stored in the persistant rules file 
> and eth0 stays eth0 when you add a card.
> this can cause problems if you change the card in a box, eth0 will become 
> eth1, then if you change to a 3rd card it becomes eth2.
>
> You can fix this by removing the lines from 
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistant-net-generator-rules
> not sure if I spelt that properly.
>
> This is important if you are creating virtual machines with Debian Ubuntu 
> or Gentoo and you clone the machine. When the Mac of the nic changes udev 
> assigns another interface name to the card.
> It is easy enough to remove the lines from the generator file and reboot 
> the machine to get eth0 back.
>
> I find that ifconfig -a is a good way to find out what udev has done to 
> your interfaces.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: eth0 not recognized:school system
>
>
>> hello,
>> I am replying to the first post in response I think, as that's the top of 
>> the thread for me.
>> Anyway, it was udev, and I just replaced it with hotplug.
>> More and more things seem to be breaiking with debian lately, now bash 
>> requires udev for completion if you upgrade bash, but udev isn't  a 
>> required package.
>> There's a ln hack you can use, but it seems like packages aren't coming 
>> with the proper dependencies.
>> Anyone else experiencing this problem?
>> I personally didn't mind udev--until it decided to rename nic interfaces, 
>> anyway. That broke a lot of scripts from startup and others.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: eth0 not recognized:school system
>>
>>
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>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:33AM -0700, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to set up a linux system here at school at my lab station, 
>>>> and am using a cross over.
>>>
>>> Doesn't your school have an I/T department for doing that kind of
>>> stuff, or are they for windows only, or is setting up a gnu/linux
>>> system part of a course you're taking?
>>>
>>>> I installed linux and all that,
>>>
>>> "All that" isn't informative enough. What distribution?
>>>
>>>> but when I use ifconfig, it says that eth0 wasn't recognized.
>>>> I've tried:
>>>> inserting a NIC card in to the pci slot and using that.
>>>> I also tried the onboard card, and it's not recognizing.
>>>> Any ideas on how to get it to recognize? I've never had this problem 
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> What does dmesg say, if anything? Does linux have support for the
>>> card(s) you're trying to use, and if so, then is that support
>>> configured into your running kernel, either as modules, or built-in?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Kitty Litter]

I had this problem when I installed Debian with speakup in the kernel. The 
NForce driver got an invalid MAC address from the card and then assigned a 
random one so every reboot would come up with another eth number for the 
card. Problem went away when I compiled a newer kernel. 

Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Gaijin]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:44:02PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Hotplug is deprecated as far as I know, and its successor is udev. So,
> I would advise against going to hotplug. Also, is there a specific
> reason why the interface had to be called eth0, couldn't you just have
> configured it as whatever udev chose to call it?

	Debian should do something similar with naming hard disks and
serial and parallel ports.  Make it *really* look and act like Windows.

			Michael

Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Steve Holmes]

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Oh God forbid! why should it look and act like windows?  Linux works
fine the way it does now.  The udev stuff makes it more automated in
the way windows users are used to but beyond that, leave it alone; it
works! and it works good.

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 06:03:52AM -0800, Gaijin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:44:02PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > Hotplug is deprecated as far as I know, and its successor is udev. So,
> > I would advise against going to hotplug. Also, is there a specific
> > reason why the interface had to be called eth0, couldn't you just have
> > configured it as whatever udev chose to call it?
> 
> 	Debian should do something similar with naming hard disks and
> serial and parallel ports.  Make it *really* look and act like Windows.
> 
> 			Michael
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Re: eth0 not recognized:school system

[Gaijin]

On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:49:38AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Oh God forbid! why should it look and act like windows?

	If you knew how much I despise Microsoft, you would've seen the
sarcasm. <grins>

			Michael